Take 5: Celebrating the downfall of Ben February 3, 2014 - Page 3

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Posted: 11 years ago
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i wish to get sr till 14th feb
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The precap/promo did happen😆😆 It was so much discussed.
On Jalal reaction, well he was completely perplexed and caught off guard. Bad ruler. He was taken aback when Jodha drank the poisoned sweet and fainted. Benz took hold of Ruq and declared she was infact Zehreele Doseeza. That is when it finally struck to Jalal that what Jodha had been trying to prove. Next he does not know the gravity of her bite and presumes that the Hakim sahiba can save her. Therefore he focuses on the upfront situation of Benz trying to bite Ruq. Now this he better save to avoid another casualty.
Yes it was beautifully shown how Jodha remembers her vachans and keeps them. Jalal sees Jodha during muh dikhayi, I think CVs could have paralled it with ganghaur. That would have made it brilliant. Other scenes were nice.
Best was Benz stating loud and clear, the callousness of Jalal, arrogant and power hungry Ruq. She actually praised Jodha for her persistence and valour. I do hope it serves as an eye opener to Jalal.
Ruq won't change as CVs are too happy to tarnish her character that I don't see any hope. They probably want to start off a jealousy track🤢 Complete Dearth of creative ideas.
Maham reactions are difficult to gauge unless they show her speaking about them. During miscarriage she was so gloomy but later they showed she was the culprit. I am not sure whether she was really worried for Jodha or happy inside.
Jalal praying to God to save Jodha was wonderfully shown. Bowing before God is fine, be it anyone. One has to let go of ego and selfishness and only then God listens and helps.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bobby13

Yes that makes sense. That explains his reaction. That also explains why he asked Hakim: "When will she gain consciousness". I think he is so sure that Jodha is not in danger. Only when Hakim gives the final ultimatum, he will understand the gravity of situation. Till then he will be more angry than being sad.
About antidote, I was telling the same thing in multiple threads. I want Jalal to get his brain back as soon as possible. He should think more about how to save Jodha rather than crying. He should be the one who gets the idea to interrogate Zakira and find out about the antidote. If anybody else finds that out other than Jalal, I will be disappointed. This will balance the Mohan track nicely. Even there Jodha had put Jalal's life in danger and she was the one to save him with her lep. Here as Jalal is the one who put her life in danger, he should be the one saving her life.

Tom when Hakeem sahiba regrets her ability to save Jodha, that will awaken Jalal to the gravity of danger Jodha is in and he may lose her forever. That is when he will turn to God to pray and ask him to save Jodha. This will lead to his realization of love towards Jodha.
Jalal should be given the intelligence back to think why would Benz keep the pearls locked with safety when she had other precious jewelry outside. He should then get the box and show the pearls to Hakeem sahiba or as you said interrogate Zakira and ask her about the pearls.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautifully written. I agree with all that you have written.

Originally posted by: realitybites

The precap/promo did happen😆😆 It was so much discussed.
On Jalal reaction, well he was completely perplexed and caught off guard. Bad ruler. He was taken aback when Jodha drank the poisoned sweet and fainted. Benz took hold of Ruq and declared she was infact Zehreele Doseeza. That is when it finally struck to Jalal that what Jodha had been trying to prove. Next he does not know the gravity of her bite and presumes that the Hakim sahiba can save her. Therefore he focuses on the upfront situation of Benz trying to bite Ruq. Now this he better save to avoid another casualty.
Yes it was beautifully shown how Jodha remembers her vachans and keeps them. Jalal sees Jodha during muh dikhayi, I think CVs could have paralled it with ganghaur. That would have made it brilliant. Other scenes were nice.
Best was Benz stating loud and clear, the callousness of Jalal, arrogant and power hungry Ruq. She actually praised Jodha for her persistence and valour. I do hope it serves as an eye opener to Jalal.
That's true. Ben actually praised Jodha. She even took her name with respect (Jodha Begum) when she did not have respect to anybody else. This is why I had said sometime before. I feel Ben is less poisonous than people like Maham, Adam and Sharif.

Ruq won't change as CVs are too happy to tarnish her character that I don't see any hope. They probably want to start off a jealousy track🤢 Complete Dearth of creative ideas.
Maham reactions are difficult to gauge unless they show her speaking about them. During miscarriage she was so gloomy but later they showed she was the culprit. I am not sure whether she was really worried for Jodha or happy inside.

What I could read from Maham's reaction is this: Oh my God. Jalal is mad about Jodha. What is going to happen if Jodha gets well by chance? How the hell I am going to make Jodha leave Agra now? How will Jalal come under my influence after this? Will I loose all my powers over Jalal? What is going to happen to me if Jalal comes to know of all my evil plans? He ordered to behead Abul Mali. Same thing could happen to me too.
Jalal praying to God to save Jodha was wonderfully shown. Bowing before God is fine, be it anyone. One has to let go of ego and selfishness and only then God listens and helps.

Agreed. It definitely does not belittle him to bow his head in front of God.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ngayou

Divya 👍🏼 for ur take . There were some totally OTT scenes today , but a few very touching ones too. I didnt expect Ben s exit today itself. That was in itself a big positive for me. But overall I liked the epi though it could have been executed better I felt. But no complaints from my side. Precap & the new promo, awww 😳

When it comes to major climaxes this serial has mostly been a let down...
Be it Mohan, be it Tasneem issue or be it Ben now...
Only the drug issue climax looked well shot to me...the rest has been errr
Very unusual of an Ekta show if you ask me...

Thanks divya, 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi All- thanks for continuing an eventful discussion while I was sleeping (sleep is overrated I tell you 😉)

As a groupbie, I will soon hit my limit of posts. So here is a group response to all of you:

@ngayou: agree it is OTT but it is an Indian television serial and that to an Ekta Kapoor one 😕

@bobby13: loved your additional parallel with the tiger fiasco- there are a lot of parallels like the flashback of the vachans and the marriage song. Jodha's lep likely will be parallel to Jalal finding the anti-dote. Also, in the spirit of OTT, I expect Jalal to shake Jodha similar to how she has said and aay, "hum aapko kuch nahin hone denge." 😆

@MaddyO: I have a feeling Jalal will be redeemed today. Poor guy he was confused yesterday. Unfortunately, Ruqs and MA naturally come first in his life. I think he might actually tell off Ruqaiyya, which will kick off the next jealousy track,

@Arshaya: Your SR wish is highly optimistic but this is a post on optimism so very welcome 😊

@realitybites: Yes, I am so glad the promo and precap is true. When these scenes came up in the first few minutes of the episode. I was like oh no it is a dream like last Monday, how can it happen so quickly? And then it happened ! I am glad you agree anybody can bow before God. I don't know why we shouldn't expect an emotional response from Jalal as he cried a lot when Ruqaiyya had her miscarriage. Naturally he will cry a lot for Jodha- he loves her a lot whether he admits or not.

@RadhikaS0: Loved your interpretation of the flashback scenes. I think this shows how close Jodha has become to Jalal. I hope Jalal makes her admit this in his own teda style. I am getting greedy already. 😉

@lashy: when you said drug issue track climax are you referring to the fake pregnancy track or has a track completely left my memory? Very possible- this Ben track has been traumatic that a lot of people including the CVs and leads have lost their memories.😉

Also, I wanted to share my version of the end of this track. I tried to imagine what it would be like last week and started an FF. I tried to temper the melodrama and be less OTT then the CVs- obviously not trying to please the TRP aunties. 😆I would love your thoughts on it.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3902775

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post Divya, i actually felt the execn of yest epi was little clumsy😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divyam the episode has some good scenes... Jalaal looking at JO reflection in mudhikayi.. He didn't see her when he entered the marriage hall..MA thinking now JO will be out, while adham thinks jalaal will be died & he is going to become king...

Good to see JO remembers all those vachans & especially before drinking she looked at HB & salima with moist eyes... Felt so bad for poor girl 😭 ... Loved her ending dialogues she has fulfill her kartavya (no love) especially JO still doesn't understand her feelings & between so much happened between JJ...

Jalaal looked more concerned for ruquand BEN words are superb especially to Jalaal, Ruqqu & MA .. How she made fool all of them, but JO is a fighter that she is going to dead just for her husband who didn't have any concern for him...

Would have been great if BEN spilled Adham name & how he is ready to get the throne and promised her to help her to bring AM out from jail.

BEN eloping with Ruqu is hilariousness 😆... What's the need for jalaal to kill Abul mali, all happened because of his foolishness & not believing JO words...

I can't understand why MA was surprised.. For me it looked like if Ruqu or Salima in place of JO, then also Jalaal will reacted like that... It showed more of the guilt, all this happened because of him... Hope today we may see some reactions for Jalaal...

At least show some positive Ruqu for few days before jealously track..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm


Please don't say there is a mother of MU still left. I thought this was the one.

Does a MU get worse then Jodha on her deathbed? I think this might be the final major MU before the lovers unite in Ekta style. I think there might be self- created MU that Jodha is mad at Jalal and vice versa to delay things but nothing more than that.

And the CVs will try to delay things with the killing of Adham and the downfall of MA.

Only thing that might be left is a separation track with Jodha in Amer - however, Jodha has promised her mother she will never leave Agra except when she dies and she keeps her word doesn't she!

This is me trying to be positive 😊 Hope for a change CVs prove me right.


I so want you to be right Divya. But, somehow don't get a sense that this was the last MU. Even though the rooh talk indicated that things changed for better after that night. How I would like my senses to be proven wrong...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Divyam the episode has some good scenes... Jalaal looking at JO reflection in mudhikayi.. He didn't see her when he entered the marriage hall..MA thinking now JO will be out, while adham thinks jalaal will be died & he is going to become king...

Good to see JO remembers all those vachans & especially before drinking she looked at HB & salima with moist eyes... Felt so bad for poor girl 😭 ... Loved her ending dialogues she has fulfill her kartavya (no love) especially JO still doesn't understand her feelings & between so much happened between JJ...

Jalaal looked more concerned for ruquand BEN words are superb especially to Jalaal, Ruqqu & MA .. How she made fool all of them, but JO is a fighter that she is going to dead just for her husband who didn't have any concern for him...

Would have been great if BEN spilled Adham name & how he is ready to get the throne and promised her to help her to bring AM out from jail.

BEN eloping with Ruqu is hilariousness 😆... What's the need for jalaal to kill Abul mali, all happened because of his foolishness & not believing JO words...

I can't understand why MA was surprised.. For me it looked like if Ruqu or Salima in place of JO, then also Jalaal will reacted like that... It showed more of the guilt, all this happened because of him... Hope today we may see some reactions for Jalaal...

At least show some positive Ruqu for few days before jealously track..


Thanks for the detailed comments. I think Ruqu is like a pendulum- so I think she will be good at least for a few days.

I am a little confused by Jalal's reactions- I think both he and the CVs were confused. Let's see what happens today.

I think the Abu Mali touch was shown to show that Jalal did not even leave his relatives if they hurt Jodha. I think it was his impulsiveness as he did not know what to do to save Jodha.

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