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Posted: 11 years ago
Shaensha Humayun & Hameeda Banu


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Well..

What can be said about the physical strength of a man who could go on hunt continuosly for 17 hours...! In his early years..

What can be said about the fearlessness of a man who used to lead from front...!


What can be said about the vision and 'buland hausla' of a man who took his horse in the river Indus when it was on RAGE in full monsoon, when NONE of his soldier DARED enter it first...


--- Shahenshah Abul Fath - Jalaluddin Muhammed Akbar...!
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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What a personality he was! 👏 One of my major disappointments with the show is the fact that they have conveniently chosen to ignore Akbar's achievements as a warrior. Yes,they have "tried" incorporating it here and there. But that is in no way enough to describe a gigantic personality like Akbar.
It should have been a good mix of romance and action.

Yes,many might argue the show is about a love story and blaa blaa. But honestly,who doesn't like a macho hero? Everybody does! So why not explore that side too? Much better than Resham's dancing in the angoor garden and Javeeda's sevaiyya 🤓
Edited by The.Patthaaka. - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jodah

@stargirl327
real Saleema Akbar having a child is still arguable not confirm i think but in the JA serial they will show only jodha akbar because its about them
if i am not wrong i checked your thread & posted the translation days back 😳


Hi Jodah,

I saw the translations you posted a while back, thank you so much for that! 🤗

I'm actually referring to a post I made after that, I wanted to know if another picture I posted on the thread was MUZ's or some other empress's. Could you please try translating the caption of that picture as well, when you have the time? I would really appreciate that, and thank you in advance!😃

Your view is probably true, since this show is JA, maybe that is why Salima's character is shown differently.😉

Thank You,

Ika
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: stargirl327


Hi Jodah,

I saw the translations you posted a while back, thank you so much for that! 🤗

I'm actually referring to a post I made after that, I wanted to know if another picture I posted on the thread was MUZ's or some other empress's. Could you please try translating the caption of that picture as well, when you have the time? I would really appreciate that, and thank you in advance!😃

Your view is probably true, since this show is JA, maybe that is why Salima's character is shown differently.😉

Thank You,

Ika



my pleasure dear 😳 i've just done with the translations thanks for sharing such
amazing pics 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: jodah



my pleasure dear 😳 i've just done with the translations thanks for sharing such
amazing pics 🤗


Hi Jodah,

I just finished looking at your splendid recent translations! ⭐️ Thank you, I really appreciate it!🤗 I'll keep posting new pics!😊

Thanks,

Ika
Edited by stargirl327 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Article in Hindu. A little old but really good. Can't promise it's historical authenticity but is an interesting read. 😊

Mausoleum that Humayun never built:


HUMAYUN'S TOMB, one of the 23 heritage sites in India, has come alive - at a cost of Rs.3 crore thanks to the Aga Khan - with dormant fountains playing again, old forgotten wells being redug and lights illuminating the mausoleum whose garden, in which tobacco was given till 1915, has been redesigned. Unlike many emperors, Humayun did not plan his own tomb for the simple reason that he did not expect to die so soon and suddenly at the age of 55, after a fall down the stairs of his library in the Purana Qila.

It was in response to the evening - maghrib - call for prayer on January 24, 1556 that Humayun got up from his seat on the terrace and hastily started descending the staircase. His robe got caught in his foot and he came tumbling down. He died two days later. What makes his death more tragic is the fact that the aazan had been given by one Miskin earlier than the scheduled time, disturbing the emperor who, as a keen astronomer, was scanning the heavens for the planet Venus.

The task of erecting a monument to his memory was left to Bega Begum or Haji Begum, his first wife, with monetary support from her stepson, Akbar. The mausoleum, whose architect was a Persian, Mirza Ghayak, was unique in the sense that it later served as the model for Shah Jahan to build the Taj Mahal. Besides, this, Humayun's Tomb is also the last resting place of many of the emperor's successors - princes and princesses - including Dara Shikoh, whose headless body was interred there after his execution on the orders of Aurangzeb.

Akbar was very fond of Haji Begum, though his love for Hamida Banu, his own mother, was naturally intense. It is interesting to note that the title of Mariam Makani was given by Akbar to his mother, because he regarded her as the epitome of innocence. And Mariam, as we know was the name of the mother of Christ of which the anglicised version is Mary. It shows the love and respect he had for her.

Humayun, following in the footsteps of his father, Babar, also had more than four wives. He was married to Bega Begum at an early age. Then Chand Bibi and Shad Bibi joined his harem. There were others too like Mah-Chehak Begum, Gunwar Bibi, Gul-Barg Barlas, Maywa-Jan and Shahnam Agha.

Hamida Banu was only 13 when Humayun saw her and fell in love at first sight. He was old enough to be her father but then love knows no bounds. Hamida was too young to respond and just giggled at the man who kept following her with his eyes. It was after his defeat at the hands of Sher Shah Suri that a dejected Humayun had gone to meet his half-brother Hindal at Lahore.

His meeting with Hamida took place at a dinner hosted by Hindal's mother, Dildar Begum. The girl's pretty face and liquid eyes attracted Humayun who had had a dream earlier in which a sufi saint, Zinda Pir, had predicted that the emperor would marry a girl from his tribe who would give birth to one of the greatest rulers of the world.

Hamida happened to be the great-granddaughter of the pir. But she refused to marry him. It was a very depressing experience for a man who had just lost an empire. What made it worse was that Hamida even declined to meet him again. But with the help of Hindal and Dildar Begum a number of meetings were arranged and the girl, finally realising the worth of the man who was courting her, gave her consent.

From there the story is a well-known one, Humayun was on the road again as Hindal, fearing an attract by Sher Shah, advised him to leave. It was in the desert of Sindh that he sought shelter with the Rana of Umarkot and it was there that Hamida gave birth to a son. When the Rana became hostile Humayun was a fugitive again, and leaving the infant with his wife and trusted followers, he fled to Persia.The journey back to Delhi was a long one, Bega Begum had been captured by Sher Shah after the Battle of Chausa while Chand Bibi and Shad Bibi had presumably been drowned.

Sher Shah treated Bega Begum with respect. As a matter of fact he is said to have ordered that "no Moghul woman is to be enslaved or killed but sent to Haji Begum's pavilion." That was in 1539. But it seems that Humayun did not like Bega Begum very much. His sister Gulbadan Begum records that on the eve of the Battle of Chausa the Begum had told the emperor that he was giving her a raw deal. This so infuriated Humayun that he asked her to make a written apology and also promise that she would never make similar complaints in future.

Haji Begum is supposed to have been left behind when Humayun fled after his second defeat at the hands of Sher Shah. But some say that she was escorted back to his court by Khawas Khan, a nobleman attached to the Afghan chief. Perhaps her only fault was that she was too domineering and Humayun's other wives, and also concubines, resented this. But her love for Humayun was great because she was the one who supervised the building of her husband's tomb. Not only that, she brought 300 Arabs from Mecca to pray for the emperor's soul. And hence the name Arab-ki-Sarai for the enclosure near the tomb. Incidentally, the dome of Humayun's tomb is modelled after the dome of Taimur's mausoleum in Samarkand.

Haji Begum died in 1581 and was mourned by Akbar who escorted her body to Humayun's mausoleum, where she was buried. Hamida Banu Begum died in 1603 and was laid to rest in a crypt in Humayun's tomb, the emperor accompanying her body to Delhi from Agra. Two years later Akbar himself died but to his dying day he missed Mariam Makani who, though his mother, was less than 15 years older than him and could have easily passed off as his elder sister.


Link: http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mp/2003/04/28/stories/2003042800730200.htm

Edited by ann2012 - 11 years ago
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so many things are known about mariam makani ...but not abt mariam uz zamani...i really wish that anyone had written anything abt jalal-jodha story...i prefer the name jalal to akbar...
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can sum1 plz help me n get me sum info that "fatehpur sikri was built for jodha's fateh on death"

as per i noe n i hv read all my lyf was Mughal emperor Akbar visited to saint slaim who said that the second son of your becomes a great ruler.The saint slaim was residing near the fatehpur sikri.In 1569 second son was born in akbar's home and Akbar decided to move his capital from agra to fatehpur sikri in honor of Saint Slaim.The second son of Akbar was also known as prince Slaim and later he grew up as great mughal emperor jahangir. Mughal emperor Akbar visited to saint slaim who said that the second son of your becomes a great ruler.The saint slaim was residing near the fatehpur sikri.In 1569 second son was born in akbar's home and Akbar decided to move his capital from agra to fatehpur sikri in honor of Saint Slaim.The second son of Akbar was also known as prince Slaim and later he grew up as great mughal emperor jahangir.


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Originally posted by: Amor.

can sum1 plz help me n get me sum info that "fatehpur sikri was built for jodha's fateh on death"

as per i noe n i hv read all my lyf was Mughal emperor Akbar visited to saint slaim who said that the second son of your becomes a great ruler.The saint slaim was residing near the fatehpur sikri.In 1569 second son was born in akbar's home and Akbar decided to move his capital from agra to fatehpur sikri in honor of Saint Slaim.The second son of Akbar was also known as prince Slaim and later he grew up as great mughal emperor jahangir. Mughal emperor Akbar visited to saint slaim who said that the second son of your becomes a great ruler.The saint slaim was residing near the fatehpur sikri.In 1569 second son was born in akbar's home and Akbar decided to move his capital from agra to fatehpur sikri in honor of Saint Slaim.The second son of Akbar was also known as prince Slaim and later he grew up as great mughal emperor jahangir.




No ''Fatehpur Sikri '' was not built for jodha' fateh on death(no such incident is recorded in history) & the channel showed a disclaimer too when they showed this particular scene 😳

it is said the old name of Fatehpur sikri was Sikrigrah later changed to Sukri
later it is constructed by Akbar called '' Fatehpur Sikri ''(Fateh means victory)
in remembrance of his victory over Rajputs in Chittore ,Rantambor,Gujarat etc

Akbar constructed this imperial complex in 1571, he ruled from here till 1585. this walled city Fatehpur Sikri contains royal palaces(including Jodha/Mrayam uz Zamani Palace,Panch Mehel etc), harem, courts (Diwan e Aam, Diwan e Khas), mosque, quarters and other utility buildings. This place was abandoned then due to scarcity of water which could not support the growing population & due to turmoil brewing from the North West. so Akbar shifted his capital to Lahore, he could not come back to this place except once during 1601.
yes it is also said Akbar shifted the capital to Sikri from Agra to hounor the Saint Saleem Chisti who lived near Sikri & Akbar was a devote of him.

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