The first significant evidence is Daniyal's mother died in 1596 as documented in Akbarnama while MUZ died in 1623 as in Jahangirnama.
The following paragraph is from Akbarnama,a concrete evidence MUZ was not Daniyal's mother:
"On the 15th Q" Nr Ullah was sent to make inquiries into the tenures (sayrghl)* of the province of Agra, and an order was given that new land should be given to the necessitous. On the 26th H.M. mounted on horseback and gathered delight in Bgh Dilwez. He spent the night with pleasure in the Deer-house. At the end of that day the great lady of the family of chastity, the mother of Prince Suln Daniel, died. Next day an old servant of the harem of fortune died. H.M. after making his supplications to God adopted resignation, and begged forgiveness for them. On the 28th he returned to his palace. On this day the wife of the Prince Royal, who was the daughter of the ruler of Khndes, died."
Tuzuki I Jahangiri documents, Prince Daniyal's mother to be a royal concubine of Emperor Akbar.
This article is mainly to rule out the rumor that Daniyal's mother was MUZ.To prove the fake Jodha Akbar love story the rumor started spreading.There is no point in discussing it, ones we know the fact that Daniyal's mother died in 1596.But in spite of it, I would like to address the rumor and give an explanation about it.
Daniyal being Jodha's son or not does not prove JA love story never existed...Living in d era of polygamy Kings did have many wives & many kids from various wives..that applies to your Sahjahan-Mumtaz & Noorjahan-Salim so called Love story...so do not try to prove a point which do not exist.
The following three question were asked by the rumor spreader's to prove MUZ to be Daniyal's mother
1.WHY DID AKBAR SEND DANIYAL TO AMBER, IF HE WAS NOT MUZ 'S SON?
Akbar sends Daniyal to Amber.This was said by the rumor spreader as a favourable point for MUZ to be Daniyal's mother.First, go through few chapters in Akbarnama.When Akbar was traveling to Gujarat, he took Daniyals mother with him.On the way,Akbar's concubine couldn't endure the journey as she was near childbirth. Akbar located the auspicious house of saint Daniyal in Ajmer and left her there and went to Gujarat.Near palodi he got the news that a son was born.He issued an order that after one month when the kid was fit enough to travel, he should be conveyed to Amber which was the nearest and also a safe place.The other royal families which had an alliance with Akbar like Bikaner and Jaisalmer was far away from Ajmer.After 6 months Akbar on his way back to Agra halted in Ajmer.He sent his commanders to pick up his son and went to Agra with him.At the same time, Raja Bharmals daughter who was in Akbar's harem during Gujarat conquest was sent from Ajmer to Amber to take part in the condolence of her brother Bupat.This is another evidence MUZ was not Daniyal's mother.
In David price version which is said to be the unauthentic version of Jahangir's autobiography, it is given that" Daniyal was left in Rajabharmals care", but the period was not mentioned.The details are elaborated in Akbarnama.People can go through both the books which are on the net.
So Daniyal was sent to Amber only for 6months.
With the little knowledge i have Daniyal was trained in war skills by Bharmal & Bhagwantdas..He had Rajputana tactics of war ...which defintely can not happen when a child is mere 6 month otherwise daniyal should b a super humanđ
Akbar when he started from Agra, he did not have any idea in dropping Daniyals mother in Amber, for if he intended he could have dropped her on his way to Ajmer as Amber is before Ajmere.So definitely Akbar had some other idea.Only when he was crossing Ajmer the problem started.Akbar had selected a place near Gujarat,but Abul Fazl had not revealed it.
Can u b more precise what r u taling about?..what was Akbar not aware of ...War?...btw..it seems.the above are ur interpretations n not a statement written in any of d authentic souurces...
We can also interpret Akbar sending Daniyal to Amber in a different way.People know Bairam Khan's rebellion against Akbar.In the middle of the rebellion, one of Bairam Khan's relative, Husain Quli Beg fell into the hands of Akbar.Akbar always had a good opinion on Husain though he was in Bairam khans side.On his way to Punjab , Akbar made over Husain to Adham khan, because he considered Adham khan to be an arch rivalry of Husain.In this way, Adham was held responsible for Husain.Adham Khan took good care of Husain who in future developed to be a trustworthy commander of Akbar.Similarly, Akbar should have thought Amber being closest to Ajmer could be a threat to his son Daniyal as he was a contenter to the throne against Salim.Moreover, Raja Bharmals daughter was with him when he went to Gujarat.This was a form of hostage and a checkpoint to Raja Bharmal.So it was better to leave his son under the care of Raja Bharmal.This is only my interpretation.So people can interpret however they like.So stop interpreting history and go according to true historical facts.
Kindly go through the points marked in blue..both of them are extremely contradictory...first u only give proof of MUZ not accomanying Akabar in Gujarat & later above u say MUZ with Akbar when he went to Gujarat..đ
2.Will Abul Fazal describe Daniyal's mother as a chaste lady if she was a concubine:
Abul Fazal used the same term chaste for a concubine ummed,the mother of Nasir mirza younger brother to Emperor Babar.(Akbarnama pg221 vol 1)Then why should he not describe Daniyals mother as a chaste lady?First of all, Abul Fazl is a shameless flatterer as said by Beveridge in the preface of Akbarnama.For him, all Akbar's wives are chaste,gem, pure and noble.How can he put the ladies down when they are the mothers of Akbar's children.
i do not understand u take most of the references from Abul Fazal's Akbarnama n u criticize him calling a Shameless flatter
Two slave girls Gulnar aghacha and Nargul aghacha presented by Sha Tahmasp to Emperor Babar were treated like the other royal ladies in the Mughal household.In fact,concubine Gulnar was sent to Mecca along with Gulbadan by Akbar.Gulbadan begum addresses her with full respect throughout her memoir though she was a concubine of her father.
Humayun's wife Mak Chuchak was not a woman of birth,and the title of begum was owne to her having borne a son Hakim who was treated by Humayun equal to Akbar.Infact there were many junior royal wives than her in Humayun's harem.In a Mughal household concubines were given equal status if they gave birth to boys.
When Jahangir married Nurjahan,she was just a lady in waiting for Ruqaya but after the wedding, all commanders were bowing in front of her.
Abul Fazal's father had kids born through concubines which were well-taken care by Abul Fazl himself.It was 15th century culture, not 20th century.
3.Will Akbar sent a concubine's son to Amber:
For Akbar, Daniyal was his precious son.He will not treat him inferiorly for most of his kids were through concubine.It is 15th century and not the 20th century where multiple wives were there and they can have 100 concubines.For Mughal kids born through wives as well as concubine were treated the same way.
i do not understandyr u saying Akbar's kids were from concubine...while Abul Fazal neer said so.
Babur's father treated Babur and his brother Nasir Ahmed who was born through a concubine in the same way.Akbar sent Babar's concubine Gulnar to Mecca along with Gulbadan with full respect
Jahangir treated his fourth son Sharyar born through a concubine in the same way as his other son.In fact he was a favourable contender to the throne.Aurangazeb son Born through his concubine Udhaipuri mahal was treated in the same way as his other sons. Raja Bharmals family will agree to Akbar's request.Once it was Raja Bharmals son Bhagavandas who went to Jaisalmer,picked up the princess there and dropped her in Akbar's harem for Akbar to marry.This may be abnormal for the 20th-century people,but it was a common culture in the 15thcentury.Such a family will definitely take care of Akbar's son who was just a kid.
Aurangazeb son born through his concubine Udhaipuri mahal was treated in the same way as his other sons.
Raja Bharmals family will agree to Akbar's request.Once it was Raja Bharmals son Bhagavandas who went to Jaisalmer,picked up the princess there and dropped her in Akbar's harem for Akbar to marry.This may be abnormal for the 20th-century people,but it was a common culture in the 15thcentury.Such a family will definitely take care of Akbar's son who was just a kid
Raja Bharmals son Bhagavandas who went to Jaisalmer,picked up the princess there and dropped her in Akbar's harem for Akbar to marry...really??.. u say bhagwantdas dropped bharmal's daughter in harem to marry???...i guess u have missed to red a whole chapter in Akbarnama which is dedicated o only Akbar-MUZ marriage...no other marriage has got this much significance..Another point is their marriage was held in a place called Sambhar n not just drop her in harem for marriage.
Anarkali and Daniyals mother:
I woukd like to add a note on Anarkali
There are also historical records that Daniyals mother could be the legendary Anarkali.The first historical mention of Anarkali was found in the travelogue of the British tourist and trader William Finch, who came to Lahore during 1608 to 1611.According to Finch's account, Anarkali was one of the wives of emperor Akbar and mother of his son Daniyal sha.Akbar developed a suspicion that Anarkali had an incestuous relationship with Prince Salim(Jahangir) upon which he entombed her within a wall of his palace where she died.Jahangir as a token of love ordered a magnificent tomb built for her.Edward Terry who visited a year after William Finch writes that Akbar had threatened to disinherit Jahangir, for his liaison with Anarkali, the emperor's most beloved wife.But on his death bed, Akbar repealed it( Early Travel in India, 1583-1619.Page no 166,330.)
But the account of the British traveller is falsified when one comes to know that Daniyal's mother died in 1596 which does not match the dates inscribed on the sarcophagus that is 1599.
This clearly shows that there had been a bazaar gossip about Anarkali and Salim.The traveller had become confused because Daniyal's mother had died that time.This shows Daniyal's mother's death had been famous among the people of Lahore.
i do not want to comment about the Anrkali part cos a person with even little knowledge will know Anarkali was a fictional imaginary characterđ
DEATH OF PRINCE DANIYAL'S MOTHER:
Prince Daniyal's mother died in 1596 as in Akbarnama.Volume 3.Chapter:CXXVIII.Page no1063.
People can go to this page to know the true fact. Since it is a part of a chapter people may not have noticed it. Akbar's first daughter's mother's death is also written as a part of a chapter.Abul Fazl doesn't mention the death of all the wives of Akbar.He had mentioned the death of these two ladies because they were mothers of Akbar's children.
The death of Muz was documented to be 1623 in Jahangirnama.The death has been described in just one line by her son Jahangir.
Now one should be very clear MARIAM ZAMANI WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF DANIYAL
PLEASE DO NOT IMMAGINE, INTERPRET, MANIPULATE, AND DISTORT HISTORY.
IT IS INJUSTICE DONE TO THE FUTURE GENERATION AS WELL AS TO THE MUGHALS WHO ARE NO MORE.
yess exactly kindly stop making ur own stories & manipulating facts/truth..
Moreover, I see in the net people writing comments that the identity is given in Akbarnama and other historical books.I request the public to take the historical books mentioned on the net, just to save time, go through the index where the children's names are given and go through at least those pages so that the truth is known.
ur saying to refer net sources of Akbarnama n later on in ur comments u say ..u do not refer net but authentic books..again contadicting..đ
Note: This article is written with a good aim that history should not be distorted just for the sake of a fake love story.
Disclaimer: This has been written with what was given in books.It is not pointing to any particular person, site or blog.
Real Pen
Thank you.er in Akbar's harem for Akbar to marry.This may be abnormal for the 20th-century people,but it was a common culture in the 15thcentury.Such a family will definitely take care of Akbar's son who was just a kid
My answere
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1.Regarding shahjahan after mumtaz he did not marry often like Akbar,it was only after her death,he turned to be a womanizer.He had all the kids through except the first two before his marriage with mumtaz..Again even in the case of Jahangir,after nurjahan he did not take any wife.
2.I said, Daniyal mother did not go to gujarat, but mariam zamani went to Gujarat with akbar.
Here is the extrct from Akbarnama for it.
When the world-conquering armies had been deputed, the Shhinshh proceeded stage by stage. On the day that he reached Siroh, Mdh* Singh and a number of men were sent to fetch that nursling of fortune's garden, Shahzda Suln Daniel, who had been conveyed from Ajmr to Amber, in order that he might be brought back to Ajmr, and might come under the shadow of the Presence. In order to do honour to Rajah Bhagwn Ds, his auspicious sister,* who held high rank in the imperial harem, was sent off in order that she might be present at the mourning for Bhpat, who had fallen in the battle of Sarnl.
3.I did not critisize Abul fazl.it is only Beveridge who translated Akbarnama had said.
The reference for it
I had the idea that Abu-l-Fa"l was a rhetorician and a shameless flatterer. And I admit that the feeling still remains. I must also say that his style, especially in the later volumes, is tortuous and obscure
4.I did not write Abul fazl said the children were through Concubine, it was jahangir in tuzuki wrote it but i know you may say according to your needs that unauthentic version.My next post will be on the authenticity of jahangirnama.Definitely Abul fazl did not write all kids were born through MUZ.
5Again you had misunderstood,Bagavandas did not pick up his sister, Bharmals daughter,he picked up Jaisalmer princess.
here is the ref from Akbarnama
One of the occurrences was that one of the empowered of the holy assembly represented to H.M. that Rwal Har Rai, the ruler of Jaisalmir, had secretly bound the saddle-straps of desire on the waist of his soul and was desirous that his daughter, who was a chaste, secluded one, might be exalted by being included among his female servants. But as, on account of impediments, he could not personally come to court, he begged that one of the courtiers might be deputed to come to his country and to give him the news of a favourable acceptance, and might convey that secluded one to court. As H.M.'s habit was to grant the requests of the needy and to loose those who were bound by distress, he accepted the petition, and Rajah Bhagwant Ds, who was favoured as one of the firm-footed of loyalty's banquet, was despatched on this service. He completed it at the time of H.M.'s return (from Ngor), and that holy and happy-starred lady obtained eternal glory by entering the female apartments.
6.please understand what i had written.i wrote you read historical books which are available in the net,not information from the net.See people may find it difficult to buy historical books,so i had asked them to read HISTORICAL BOOKS available in the net for Akbar Nama is available on the net.In fact, medical books are also available in the net.
my article is not having a contradictory statement
please read my article properly
Edited by realpen1542 - 9 years ago
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