Shivani in the history

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I just want to know from history buffs if Shivani existed in reality. Did she elope with worker?
I find it hard to swallow that there is any truth in it.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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i dont' think so. Its a BT creation.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Part4: Mughal Dresses + Holi festival + Mirza Hakim + Shivani Track info + Akbar-MUZ Convo.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91



not confirmed..but may give an idea...check pg 28 and 29...
Though this is not sure info. 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

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Part4: Mughal Dresses + Holi festival + Mirza Hakim + Shivani Track info + Akbar-MUZ Convo.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91



not confirmed..but may give an idea...check pg 28 and 29...
Though this is not sure info. 😕




Thank you
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welcome.

DETAILED INFO -on Mirza hakim is on page 20 of this thread. (got pm)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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this was all imagination like anarkali-salim love story
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Hmm...
So FINALLY you agreed that salim anarkali love story is fiction... 😊 !
Coz i read in LOT OF your posts about their love story..
Anyways, great that now its clear. ... Another misconception removed.. 😊 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't believe there is any truth in the Shivani story.
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Hmm...
So FINALLY you agreed that salim anarkali love story is fiction... 😊 !
Coz i read in LOT OF your posts about their love story..
Anyways, great that now its clear. ... Another misconception removed.. 😊 👏

i never said if story is true or false dear, i only always said "IF" if means hypothesis kind assume that salim loved anarkali and akbar did what he did to her then its not correct and then he cannot leave shivani etc so softly after such big mess if he behaved so ruthless with an anarkali. how can a man keep forgiving like his cocubine(or was it a wife) had a baby by some man he allows her to leave him marry her, he leaves shivani and etc and suddenly for anarkali he may behave different. So either his character now is shown wrongly or later is wrong.
Pls read my exact post i have made below Salim-Anarkali page11
I just took different articles and pieced them together and came up with what diff people have to say on that love story. It may /may not be true that only Jehangir can tell no one else 😆 we can only guess. I personally do not believe that anarkali-salim story is true even if it happened it would not be the way we all know. But yes i think salim was a romantic at heart who easily believe others words and trust others(not very street smart we can say in modern terms). But Akbar although initially under maham and bairam khan influence was street smart and could not be influenced or controlled against his wishes by anyone unlike jehangir.
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Originally posted by: myviewprem



this was all imagination like anarkali-salim love story




Originally posted by: history_geek



Hmm...
So FINALLY you agreed that salim anarkali love story is fiction... 😊 !
Coz i read in LOT OF your posts about their love story..
Anyways, great that now its clear. ... Another misconception removed.. 😊 👏



Originally posted by: myviewprem



i never said if story is true or false dear
, i only always said "IF" if means hypothesis kind assume that salim loved anarkali and akbar did what he did to her then its not correct and then he cannot leave shivani etc so softly after such big mess if he behaved so ruthless with an anarkali. how can a man keep forgiving like his cocubine(or was it a wife) had a baby by some man he allows her to leave him marry her, he leaves shivani and etc and suddenly for anarkali he may behave different. So either his character now is shown wrongly or later is wrong.
Pls read my exact post i have made below Salim-Anarkali page11
I just took different articles and pieced them together and came up with what diff people have to say on that love story. It may /may not be true that only Jehangir can tell no one else 😆 we can only guess. I personally do not believe that anarkali-salim story is true even if it happened it would not be the way we all know. But yes i think salim was a romantic at heart who easily believe others words and trust others(not very street smart we can say in modern terms). But Akbar although initially under maham and bairam khan influence was street smart and could not be influenced or controlled against his wishes by anyone unlike jehangir.




For Your points in BOLD. I mentioned this because I HAVE SEEN YOUR COMMENTS ON MANY THREADS where you have mentioned Salim-Anarkali as "great lovers".😛. And, i got PMs to clarify this ISSUE.😆.!!

Even right now i have questions on my thread to clarify Salim-Anarkali story, due to same reason..!..



And, yes i have read your threads. You are correct they are taken from many articles on Internet.😊



BTW, you forgot one "theory", in that post --> "There are Certain views who EVEN say that Nur Jehan was Anarkali and after Akbar's death, Salim recalled Anarkali and gave her that title to conceal her ORIGINAL identity".🤢.😆.😆.


See, my point was ONLY that, Internet will say anything.
And, so i do not write anything STRAIGHT from Internet, otherwise it ends up in confusing members here.
The point becomes clear when we read the sources ourselves. 😊

And, talking about that movie MUGHAL-E-AZAM, that was based on a novel. And, the novel on which it is based ITSELF says on first page that this novel is "A PURE FANTASY".

Also, i have gone through the accounts of Finch(24 August, 1608)(original one!)(the first person who mentioned Anarkali..!) There also he mentions that a "gossip was in Lahore" where they "claimed Anarkali to be favourite wife" of Akbar. This statement is another conspiracy. And, why was this done, try finding out. You will not get on Internet.This was circlated from Lahore after Akbar's death.😊.
Also, why was this gossip ONLY present in Lahore.?. I will post later. But, PLZ try finding it. This is interesting..😊.

And, "if there HAD been" any story of Salim-Anarkali, THINK why did, NOT EVEN single contemporary account of THAT PERIOD reported this EVENT.?😕?.. And, did not mention Salim and Anarkali together..?..

Also, what ruthless behaviour did Akbar mete to Anarkali..?..😕..
Are you talking that she was masoned in wall ALIVE..??😉..?.
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