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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am a silent reader reading your posts with interest as you always seem to give a different perspective sometimes even cynical or clinical to JA's actions. I can understand Jalal's pardon in Shivani's case if it happens and even Jodha's forgiveness with Bakshi Bano as JA are being compassionate for their mistakes. Both Bakshi Bano and Shivani made mistakes in hurting their families for the sake of keeping their love and selfish nature. To err is human, to forgive is divine isn't it, especially if the intent is not to kill anyone. I think 'to be humane' and 'knowing to trust and respect' is an essential component of love for JA's eventual amar prem progression.

Please aunty continue writing your posts even if JA don't meet your expectations to be perfect.
Edited by vijrati - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post
I am so glad that some thing positive happened
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Posted: 11 years ago
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thanks for your post..
it was very enlightening with all the darkness and love sickness that is hovering on Shenshah's head..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shyamala.. Yes it was not blind trust Jalaal has on Jodha, but the evidence showed him, that Jodha is innocent & doesn't know anything about Shivani love...

Yes Ruqu questions are right, even Jalaal knows that, he is chasing jodha, that's why he didn't answer her..

But will Ruqu able to answer Jalaal questions ?

Ruqu allways gave importance to the Jalaal - Shahansha. not the husband Jalaal ? Will she love him & care for him only leaving her auda ? He still doesn't have that emotional connect with Ruqu, who is his best friend & spend more than 10 years together ..

Now Ruqu started seeing JJ relationship particularly from Jalaal's side. Waiting to see will jalaal bring back shivani-tejvir and what BM punishment...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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shayamala, word for word is what i have in my mind..i too think jalal trusted jodha because of his gut feeling and not out of his love for her..he could see it in her eyes that she is not guilty..and he knows that she will not hurt anyone intentionally and that too her dewar whom she likes! and he specified that why would shivani write the letter to jodha before eloping if she knew all about shivani..and the last part where we fear that jalal will give some padwi to kangiman and marry him off to shivani officially y is something i might not be able to digest..but lets see what happens, it all depends how well the cvz execute it if that is what they intend to show..

like ruq i too have similar questions for the cvz..i want to see a manipulative..calculative intelligent jalal but not a blind in love aashiq..i want the character to be close to the real akbar..less fiction more reality is what i demand from the cvz otherwise i fail to connect..then i would rather watch some other fiction show and not a historical...!

shyamal, in addition to your last part i am a great admirer of viraf patel..i too do not feel the epic love between these two..the hand holding and nok jhonk has become🥱..if the genre is love then where is that eternal love! i feel that creatives r more focused on maham's character than their love saga because that is what is bringing trps..and u can also compare ek boond ishq's trps!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am cutting paste my post here.
I just have one question in mind today, if the circumstances were reversed and Jalal was in Jodha's shoes and vice-versa would Jodha have shown the same trust on Jalal???
In that case the entire Mughal khaandaan including the Shahensha would be in the target of the 'nirnaal' and this time the bullets won't be missing.

Would she have had the sense, logic and rational to look deeper than the surface?

But I was pleasantly surprised and pleased to see Jalal's intelligent shrewd mind and Jodha's smart logical rebuke to Ruqaiya.

I guess I ought to be grateful to the CV's for restoring Jalal's position and intelligence which went for a nose dive for the last 2 - 3 months.

I was on the verge of bidding adieu to this show because it has become mockery in name of history.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you so much, Mandy, and it is good to know that we are on the same page now as well.

I have substantially revised the last part of the post, and it now reads as below. Do see how you like it.

Shyamala
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If that happens, folks, you can heave a sigh of relief, for I am out of here.

I was prepared for this amar prem being unbalanced, with Jalal as the lover and Jodha as the beloved. Good for her, and I never thought her capable of any great romantic passion any way. For Jodha, no man will come ahead of her Ameri parivaar.

But a man of straw, a Shahenshah who is prepared to stand insaaf on its head because he cannot see Jodha weep, would turn me off for good. I despise men who become like poodles when they fall in love.

Moreover, as Sandhya pointed out elsewhere, Jalal's grey cells might have functi0ned this once, but only because it concerned Jodha, like the time when he spotted the dirt under the murdered Hakima's nails. They do not seem to work in any other context, and Sharifuddin in the kaal kotri is better informed about the dangers threatening Jalal than he is.

Moreover, this yoyo exercise, with one of the two leads alternating as the idiot in residence, is beginning to be tiring. And an anaemic, oscillating relationship, that seems to anchored in the man's weakness, not his strength, and the woman's blindness, does not seem, at least to me, to be the stuff of epic romance.

This will very likely sound sacrilegious to the 98% here who are now in ecstasies over The Look (everything about Jalal and Jodha seems to need capitalisation these days: The Shove, The Handhold, and now The Look!) that a tearful, departing Jodha, and a Jalal trying hard to look ruthless and ending up looking as it he was made of soft marzipan, exchanged last night.

But give me Viraf Patel's Mrityunjay in Ek Boond Ishq, and his Tara any day! The screen is literally lit up by their deep, total emotional dependence on each other, and their desperate caring for each other. No one else exists for either of them. That is le grand amour, not this amar prem that is forever in the making. Alas, Viraf is reportedly quitting that show soon for Bollywood. Good things, it seems, never last!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Originally posted by: mandyg

shayamala, word for word is what i have in my mind..i too think jalal trusted jodha because of his gut feeling and not out of his love for her..he could see it in her eyes that she is not guilty..and he knows that she will not hurt anyone intentionally and that too her dewar whom she likes! and he specified that why would shivani write the letter to jodha before eloping if she knew all about shivani..and the last part where we fear that jalal will give some padwi to kangiman and marry him off to shivani officially y is something i might not be able to digest..but lets see what happens, it all depends how well the cvz execute it if that is what they intend to show..

like ruq i too have similar questions for the cvz..i want to see a manipulative..calculative intelligent jalal but not a blind in love aashiq..i want the character to be close to the real akbar..less fiction more reality is what i demand from the cvz otherwise i fail to connect..then i would rather watch some other fiction show and not a historical...!

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Now that, my dear, is the million dollar question ! And the answer, which you have already given, is: Of course not!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: lghosh

I am cutting paste my post here.

I just have one question in mind today, if the circumstances were reversed and Jalal was in Jodha's shoes and vice-versa would Jodha have shown the same trust on Jalal???
In that case the entire Mughal khaandaan including the Shahensha would be in the target of the 'nirnaal' and this time the bullets won't be missing.

Would she have had the sense, logic and rational to look deeper than the surface?

But I was pleasantly surprised and pleased to see Jalal's intelligent shrewd mind and Jodha's smart logical rebuke to Ruqaiya.

I guess I ought to be grateful to the CV's for restoring Jalal's position and intelligence which went for a nose dive for the last 2 - 3 months.

I was on the verge of bidding adieu to this show because it has become mockery in name of history.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good morning aunty. 😃

I haven't watched the episode last night & neither do I intend to watch JA the remaining nights of this week or until this whole track finishes.


I am afraid that that is what is to happen- Jalal will let them off or proclaim that it is the most fitting sazaa for Raja Bhaarmal to have such a son-in-law as Tejvant. That this is the fitting reply to give to such a gunaah-e-azeem, but anyone with half a brain - Which automatically excludes Jodha ( and which includes the likes of us , Maham & Ruqaiyya) will KNOW that this was done only for his beloved Jodha Begum!!


And this makes me so angry for so many reasons!! 😡



P.S. Please don't leave. I will eat my hats & do a dance if this does not happen, but I've a very strong feeling since the spoiler for this track came out, that this IS precisely the result of this totally un-necessary & asinine track. 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you very much, my dear. I am flattered by your "as always", but where were you till now? Anyway, I am glad that you have written in at long last!

What you say might be true of lesser matters, but this is a very public and blatant humiliation. If he swallows it too, well, what can I say! This said, I have since revised the last part of this post, which now reads as below. See how you feel about it.

Shyamala
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If that happens, folks, you can heave a sigh of relief, for I am out of here.

I was prepared for this amar prem being unbalanced, with Jalal as the lover and Jodha as the beloved. Good for her, and I never thought her capable of any great romantic passion any way. For Jodha, no man will come ahead of her Ameri parivaar.

But a man of straw, a Shahenshah who is prepared to stand insaaf on its head because he cannot see Jodha weep, would turn me off for good. I despise men who become like poodles when they fall in love.

Moreover, as Sandhya pointed out elsewhere, Jalal's grey cells might have functi0ned this once, but only because it concerned Jodha, like the time when he spotted the dirt under the murdered Hakima's nails. They do not seem to work in any other context, and Sharifuddin in the kaal kotri is better informed about the dangers threatening Jalal than he is.

Moreover, this yoyo exercise, with one of the two leads alternating as the idiot in residence, is beginning to be tiring. And an anaemic, oscillating relationship, that seems to anchored in the man's weakness, not his strength, and the woman's blindness, does not seem, at least to me, to be the stuff of epic romance.

This will very likely sound sacrilegious to the 98% here who are now in ecstasies over The Look (everything about Jalal and Jodha seems to need capitalisation these days: The Shove, The Handhold, and now The Look!) that a tearful, departing Jodha, and a Jalal trying hard to look ruthless and ending up looking as it he was made of soft marzipan, exchanged last night.

But give me Viraf Patel's Mrityunjay in Ek Boond Ishq, and his Tara any day! The screen is literally lit up by their deep, total emotional dependence on each other, and their desperate caring for each other. No one else exists for either of them. That is le grand amour, not this amar prem that is forever in the making. Alas, Viraf is reportedly quitting that show soon for Bollywood. Good things, it seems, never last!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Originally posted by: vkalu

Dear Shyamala,

lovely post and analysis as always but also want to query a couple of points;
There is a difference between what an emperor should have done and what really happened and in those days what they were influenced by. I think it was a known fact they were influenced by people who were close to them. Although he has been a ruler for about 7-8 years he is still a 21 years old, hormones it is slightly natural fro hormones would have some influence .
as for Jodha i was looking at past episodes to keep my interest going and the day after "the Night" ,when they confronted each other and Jalal clearly agreed that ti wasn't love and there was a clear change in Jodha s expressions one of deep sadness (pari was spot on I thought). In lot of series important scenes like that are followed up later, this one has gone quite disjointed since after that scene.

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago

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