Tulsi Das and MP connection in history

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Can anyone say what role Tulsi Das played in Akbars era ...???????

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Posted: 11 years ago
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r u sure this tejvar is the same tulsi das from history 😕
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Originally posted by: sonilausarun

r u sure this tejvar is the same tulsi das from history 😕



😆..
they are miles apart...
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Tulsidas had a connection with MP.
not exactly sure what sort of connection...
But there are paintings of tulsidas in the udaipur palace...in MEWAR.

Tulsidas was a Hindu saint..
He was friend of Rahim.

Rahim has composed couplets in his favour..

Though, it is said INITIALLY he was not in good terms with Akbar..(Later, i am not sure..Though, probably they improved...)

see page 2
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http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4439760

New Delhi: Was the legendary poet Tulsidas, who wrote "Ram Charit Manas" in the 16th century, so scared of Mughal emperor Akbar that he did not mention the demolition of a Ram temple in Ayodhya and the construction of the Babri mosque thereupon in his work?

"If a temple standing on the premises in dispute had been demolished and a mosque had been constructed thereupon less than 50 years before Tulsi Das wrote 'Ram Charit Manas' at Ayodhya, there was no reason for not mentioning the said fact by him in his famous book," Justice S.U. Khan of the Allahabad High Court said in his judgment on the Babri Masjid-Ramjanmabhoomi title suits Sep 30.

Justice Khan made this observation while rejecting the contention of several counsel appearing for different Hindu parties on this count.

These counsel had tried to explain this vital omission - no mention of the demolition of Ram's temple and construction of the mosque at the site - on the ground that Tulsidas feared emperor Akbar would not like it and cause him harm if he mentioned it.

But Justice Khan said such a wild accusation against a poet of such repute and calibre as Tulsidas was rather unpalatable even to non-Hindus.

Moreover, Justice Khan says Tulsidas had given up all the comforts of life and had virtually renounced the world by separating himself from his wife for writing "Ram Charit Manas" at Ayodhya. The work is considered the common man's Ramayana.

"A poet in such a situation and of such calibre is not expected to be fearful in writing the truth," said Justice Khan.

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t was during the reign of emperor Akbar (1556-1605) that Tulsidas (1532-1623) wrote 'Ram Charit Manas' from 1574 to 1577 in Awadhi, which was the common man's language at that time.

Justice Khan said: 'Even if it is assumed that the mosque was subsequently constructed by Aurangzeb, still Tulsidas should have mentioned in 'Ram Charit Manas' that a specific small piece of land measuring 1,500 square yards or a temple standing on such a site was birthplace of Lord Ram.

'Symbolism and similes are two most essential, handy tools of poetry. Accordingly, if not directly then at least symbolically or in similes some indication could have been given by Tulsidas regarding the premises in dispute to be the birthplace of Lord Ram and demolition of the temple,' underlined Justice Khan.

Further disagreeing with the counsel of Hindu parties, Justice Khan said: 'Apart from (its) religious importance, 'Ram Charit Manas' has got great poetical value. Poetry is basically flight of imagination' and this could not be subjected to any fear.'

Elaboratin, Justice Khan said: 'Wealth and fear are two great retarding gravitational forces for flight of imagination. No wealthy or fearful person has composed great poetry.'

However, he said, this principle does not apply to prose writers. Leo Tolstoy who wrote 'War and Peace', the best novel of the world, was a feudal lord of Russia of considerable wealth and position.

The Ayodhya verdict, given by the Lucknow bench of the high court, has divided the disputed land into three parts - one for Ram Lalla, one for the Nirmohi Akhara and one for the Sunni Wakf Board. It also said the Babri mosque had been built on a site that was the birthplace of Lord Ram.

Source: IANS

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



😆..
they are miles apart...


then who is tejwar? Did he exist? Did shivani exist? Did this love story exist? Don't tell me they are showing all this crap about some fake characters 🥱
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Tulidas had a connection with MP.
not exactly sure what sort of connection...
But there are paintings of tulsidas in the udaipur palace...in MEWAR.

Tulsidas was a Hindu saint..
He was friend of Rahim.

Rahim has composed couplets in his favour..

Though, it is said INITIALLY he was not in good terms with Akbar..(Later, i am not sure...)


So our shivani's kanghi man tajvar is not tulsi das 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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http://www.voi.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=278
interesting life of tulsi das we might see him in show soonnn
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vacchii


then who is tejwar? Did he exist? Did shivani exist? Did this love story exist? Don't tell me they are showing all this crap about some fake characters 🥱



Vacchii,

At present, i do not know what is the EXACT story..
But, i have written a lot on this issue in my threads...
Probably you have not seen...See Page 28 and 29 especially...

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91?pn=28

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonilausarun


So our shivani's kanghi man tajvar is not tulsi das 😆



😆...no...tulsidas was a saint not an artist or a sculptor..

@TOPICMAKER...NICE THREAD...👏...U HAVE RAISED A GOOD POINT ..

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