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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg



i hope not! because that is not true! he was a great administrator and a ruler, maybe jodha contributed in making him more of a human but he was intelligent to begin with..they cannot show him dumb that will go against history!


Well, they already are - aren't they?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jiya.k

Agree when rajat is fine n fit show will be back on track n one more thing whatever happen in DEK thats bcoz that n8 rejection bcoz jalal thinks jodha insult him n he wants revenge of his insult...main culpit toh woh safed nagin hai then why bash jalal or jodha..jo kehna hai woh uss mm ko kaho usse jitna maan kare koso par humare akdha ko kuch mat kaho...



i agree, my only concern is that they should show jalal using his intelligence and not so much trusting wrong people! i hope the cvz work on it!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


Well, they already are - aren't they?



do they think this will get them trps! i do not think by showing him dumb they will attract more viewers
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg



i agree, my only concern is that they should show jalal using his intelligence and not so much trusting wrong people! i hope the cvz work on it!


look even trusting wrong people r not a big issue, bcoz even real jalal also did tht. but prob is tht CVs showing too much. i just hope CVs stop butchering jalal's character.😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg



i agree, my only concern is that they should show jalal using his intelligence and not so much trusting wrong people! i hope the cvz work on it!


He did trust wrong people mandy...his initial years as an administrator (he was quite young taking on a large empire) so he did trust BK first and MA later on...till he understood things...

but these issues were emotionally driven...he was very forgiving of his family, his brothers-in-law who conspired against him, Ak all of them...so, he made mistakes there... I agree!

however, outside of that - he was NO brainless dude - How could he even run an empire if he he had to be taught that he had to investigate a murder within his own home...or that someone else had to tell him to start suspecting that a spy like Ben was so close to him..!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


He did trust wrong people mandy...his initial years as an administrator (he was quite young taking on a large empire) so he did trust BK first and MA later on...till he understood things...

but these issues were emotionally driven...he was very forgiving of his family, his brothers-in-law who conspired against him, Ak all of them...so, he made mistakes there... I agree!

however, outside of that - he was NO brainless dude - How could he even run an empire if he he had to be taught that he had to investigate a murder within his own home...or that someone else had to tell him to start suspecting that a spy like Ben was so close to him..!



i second u on that lashy! jalal is the reason i watch this show and if they continue showing him like this i might have to call it quits with a heavy heart! that is why i want to see how they fix this mess and we should keep calling them regarding our concerns!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnirony


look even trusting wrong people r not a big issue, bcoz even real jalal also did tht. but prob is tht CVs showing too much. i just hope CVs stop butchering jalal's character.😭



i hope so too! i think we as jalal lovers should keep calling zee!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i hv nvr jumped in any discussions...we shld gv full freedom to cvs...they cant shw goody goody epi all d time...keep calm nd enjoy d shw.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anshfever

i hv nvr jumped in any discussions...we shld gv full freedom to cvs...they cant shw goody goody epi all d time...keep calm nd enjoy d shw.



love ur positivity dear! lets see what they have for us, i hope the dust settles once rajat is back in action!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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In order to help spread some positivity in the forum, I'd like to share a post I wrote a couple of days ago. I feel if all you do is look for the negatives in a situation then that is all you will find. Here it is:
Akbar was a human being, he can't have been all that perfect that he had a plan and solution for every problem that came his way. Sometimes he might have had to rely on advisors such as Atgah Sahib or like this show depicts, on the females in his life. After all, serials like this are geared toward a female audience, and what better way to appeal to them than to show women giving great advice for the betterment of an empire? Akbar was surrounded by male advisors as many of us know but did we ever think about the females in his life? They weren't just pretty showpieces for the Mughal Sultanate right?
I certainly hope not!

This show puts forth the idea that Jodha supported Akbar on his way to become a great emperor. This is the path the show has followed from the beginning and now that Jodha no longer hates Jalal and has become used to her new surroundings, we have seen that she has taken a more active role in making suggestions and giving advice.

Lately her advice and suggestions such as in the divorce case have helped a clueless Jalal make the right decisions for the welfare of his empire without sacrificing his personal life. Jalal never had to make decisions such as that and was understandably stumped - and this is where Jodha came in. All his life, he had been trained in matters of war strategies and political matters but social matters? Where does that come in? This is the first time on the show that he has stood up for a social cause and unfortunately his personal life was dragged into question which he does not handle well. Jodha stepped in to pose a solution and It does not make him any less of an emperor if he uses her advice. It would make him less of an emperor if he shrugged her off and in his arrogance refused to take the advice of a woman into account. But, no, he listens to her with an open mind and gives credit where credit is due by telling Ruqaiya that it is all because of Jodha that their marriage was saved - that is the mark of a great emperor.

Since the beginning of the show, we have seen Jalal using his quick mind to make great decisions as an emperor. One of my favorite Jalal strategies is the clever way in which wins won back the Ratanpur fort after giving it away and then regifts it all in order to teach a lesson. There have been many such moments in the show that we have taken it for granted that Jalal will always save the day with a plan up his sleeve. Unfortunately, that is hardly realistic. I'll be a bit of a nerd here and reference regression to the mean, a statistical concept that states that if a variable is extreme on its first measurement then it will tend to be closer to the average on its second measurement. This generally means that extreme measurements are usually due to luck or extenuating circumstances. We saw a rash of successes in Jalal's strategies and now it seems that he is facing a pile of failures which is probably not his fault but simple statistics in that not every action will bring fruit or be as successful as previous ones. When the show started, he could have been in the middle of his lucky phase for all we know. We cannot expect him to be one step ahead of his enemies all the time - he is a human being and watching a show where Jalal wins every time and/or has a solution for everything would get boring real quick. If he is right all the time, where is that journey towards becoming Akbar?
Because this show is about both Akbar and Jodha, Jodha has to come into the picture somehow and lately she has been a very welcome addition into Akbar's life through the advice she gives him. My favorite piece of advice lately was the bit where she quoted Sujamal and said underestimating your enemy can prove fatal. Jalal is at the stage where he thinks he is invincible which is to be expected of a young emperor off a rash of victories. He is in a state of inertia and has become content enough to let his guard down. At the end of this fiasco and through Jodha, he will learn where he has gone wrong.
Basically, all I'm trying to say is look at this through Jalal's eyes or through another perspective. When you see things differently and aren't as critical, certain aspects of the show become more clear. Jalal has a lot of pride and arrogance, in his view there is no one big enough to challenge him or pose a large enough threat to his life. This track will teach him a big life lesson in that he is just as mortal as anyone and that underestimating your enemy is a dangerous thing.
I don't know about everyone else but I, for one, am looking forward to the upcoming episodes and intend to stick for the ride.

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