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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: loveanime

old habits shyamala aunty i can't help but over analyze heheee. sorry i wanted to add something else too jodha is still stuck in this rut of trying to figure our if jalal is a good person or not. see this is the biggest problem with her instead of reflecting on her own behaviour why is she written in such a way where she finds others to blame. she still doesn't get jalal is a good person, she can't process that if he lashes out it is because he is hurt not because he is a bad person. then what was she doing in the start of their marriage lashing out at every chance did that make her evil person. i am sorry really frustrated why do they give jodha such inconsistent faltoo dialogues. you are right this is character inconsistency we are already past the ghrina and my husband is an evil man phase. Can we please in all that is holy move from that phase and give jodha some insightful dialogues. Tube Light Jodha the problem is staring right in the face, it is like you see thief in your house but you can't remember who stole everything.


Golden rule: she is never wrong. never. ever.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Yes, on her wedding day perhaps.

But Jodha and her entire family had struck a super bargain with the wedding, just like the super deal aunty mentioned Jodha struck in the Meena Bazaar. 🤣
And yes, , Jodha used to give smart replies and speeches at Amer too. No wonder Menavati refused to take her back to Amer. She had to save her kingdom and the scapegoat was in Agra!🤣
Her laadoo was supposed to make an insaan out of a haivaan. But she has made a listless jobless aashiq out of an able emperor! And this aashiq has nothing to do nowadays other than gaze at the sun and the moon and take up his SriRanga Ranganathar pose on the diwans of Agra palace! His latest motto seems to be
'Kaabul, Rajputana poora saltanat jaaye bhaad mein
Humein rehna hai sirf apni Jodha Begum ki aad mein' 😳😳🤣


@ red 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thats exactly how he was looking yesterday. That scene was hilarious!!

Even that line when Atga khan is talking about conquering Rajvanshis he is still talking about Jodha 😕

I think this is BT's definition of epic. An all powerful emperor who is incapable of functioning because heroine gives him butterflies in his tummy every time she treats him badly = epic love

BB and her brother both victims of the weirdest unbalanced mohabbat..birds of a feather.. *head desk*

Jeez I wonder if he will forgive BB because all is fair in love😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
Aunty, you are so right. There is nothing left to analyze. I doubt these writers even have 15 minutes worth of sensible discussions before typing away into their computers. Every character is so inconsistent. MA, Ruqs, Jalal and Jodha.
consistency is seen only in BB, AK and SK😆

I wasnt expecting Ruks to react, I know she wont step in to help to Jodha till its life threatening or marriage destroying or something. She is too happy smoking. But she knows Jalal is making an idiot of himself. What about protecting him and his kingdom. How can she be so blind to that? She hated to see him in pain, now thats ok too. He did tell her some part of the story, I wonder why she doesnt go and finish that conversation with him.

At least Jalal didnt react to that manhood dialogue like how MA wanted him to.
We just need to watch this like the TRP audience that its aimed at do.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ariel


Golden rule: she is never wrong. never. ever.



bang on comment! why jo thinks that she is always right! it annoys me! she just cannot understand how hurt her husband is..extremely self centered behavior! now that she is not pampered anymore she is all frustrated!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ariel


I think this is BT's definition of epic. An all powerful emperor who is incapable of functioning because heroine gives him butterflies in his tummy every time she treats him badly = epic love

BB and her brother both victims of the weirdest unbalanced mohabbat..birds of a feather.. *head desk*

Jeez I wonder if he will forgive BB because all is fair in love😕

@red🤣🤣🤣. New definition of epic love.
shudhdha hindi...you too Jalal!!😉 aadesh hai ki paramparik roop se upastthith ho!🤣
As though one shudha hindi expert was not enough!!!!😲 Very cute though!!😳
Everything is back to Amer mode. Jalal teasing a gussa gussa Jodha . Last time, after the tiger attack, he said 'itni badi gustakhi, itni choti sazaa' and then started teasing his gustaakh. So everytime he declares that he is going to punish or revenge, we can be sure that he is going to turn mischievous.😳 That's all. Even when is pushed on the floor or to a tiger.
It would have suited the flow if Jalal had casually made advances and Jodha had softly and firmly refused and then Jalal wanted to make her realize her feelings.

But the night scene was a very strong one, where emotions were shown to be very very high-strung. After all that, if Jalal is shown to go back to mode Amer where he can only irritate his fussy begum, it doesn't make sense. Either they should have down-played the rejection scene or built up a strong continuity to it.
At present Salima, Rahim and Adham Khan are the only consistent characters that make sense. HB is also consistent (except for a few minutes in virtual baby track) in her 'Om Jodhaya Namaha' , but doesn't make sense.
btw, was that senior sipahi Jalal's agent placed to monitor ben? Just a thought. I'm still weary to trust this Jalal's efficiency after the tasnim track.
Anyway, our prayers for a male entrant has been finally answered.👏 Enter HM. 👏
(But Hakim Mirza is supposed to be 11 yrs younger than Akbar, isn't he. So 11-12 yrs at the time of the story)
Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

@red🤣🤣🤣. New definition of epic love.
shudhdha hindi...you too Jalal!!😉 aadesh hai ki paramparik roop se upastthith ho!🤣
As though one shudha hindi expert was not enough!!!!😲 Very cute though!!😳
Everything is back to Amer mode. Jalal teasing a gussa gussa Jodha . Last time, after the tiger attack, he said 'itni badi gustakhi, itni choti sazaa' and then started teasing his gustaakh. So everytime he declares that he is going to punish or revenge, we can be sure that he is going to turn mischievous.😳 That's all. Even when is pushed on the floor or to a tiger.
It would have suited the flow if Jalal had casually made advances and Jodha had softly and firmly refused and then Jalal wanted to make her realize her feelings.

But the night scene was a very strong one, where emotions were shown to be very very high-strung. After all that, if Jalal is shown to go back to mode Amer where he can only irritate his fussy begum, it doesn't make sense. Either they should have down-played the rejection scene or built up a strong continuity to it.
At present Salima, Rahim and Adham Khan are the only consistent characters that make sense. HB is also consistent (except for a few minutes in virtual baby track) in her 'Om Jodhaya Namaha' , but doesn't make sense.
btw, was that senior sipahi Jalal's agent placed to monitor ben? Just a thought. I'm still weary to trust this Jalal's efficiency after the tasnim track.
Anyway, our prayers for a male entrant has been finally answered.👏 Enter HM. 👏
(But Hakim Mirza is supposed to be 11 yrs younger than Akbar, isn't he. So 11-12 yrs at the time of the story)


I think we can safely assume that Jalal has let the letter/night fiasco pass. You know yesterday there was this lovely post on how there should be no ego in true love, we have to accept that Jalal love is so pure that even if Jodha asked him to jump off the highest agra tower he would be like Jodha Begum if I don't die will you at least apply your khans maram to heal me and then smilingly jump off. I too wish they had down played the rejection night then all this cute nok jhok won't seem out of place. It was such a ghastly night emotionally for Jalal that for him to rebound merrily as quickly as he did is quite astonishing, again we have to reason it thru being the strength of his selfless love. I think we would feel proud of his altruistic love if the intended recipient too is capable of such emotions. I guess Jodha too should be given her chance but as it stands Jalal is chasing again, Jodha though not running away like before is not running towards him either, she is at the phase where she is rooted to a fixed spot.

Oh god please please please please I hope Jalal is conspiring with the Sipahi to figure out Benazir, I am dying to see a Amer Jalal. He can do what he wishes on the personal front after all it is true love and men/women have behaved/done worst in the name of true love but as a emperor can we have the previous witty Jalal back.
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Posted: 11 years ago
In my earlier post when Benny baby was introduced I had already hinted at TE's suspicion about her - his smile said a lot. No one gave a hoot here in the forum!!! what do I say now I wonder????

As for the entire insult Jodha / make Jodha J drama - I have already given my take on that in 2 different posts of my own and as various comments on various threads.

As for TE's feelings of insult and his anger about 'THE NIGHT' - TE is a man who is quick to anger but is also one who regains his balance very fast - I had mentioned this too in another post that when he went to meet MA after Jodha's SKL (stree ki lalsa) bhashan he was very agitated but by the time his convo ended with MA on that letter, uski saari hawa nikal gayi thi - almost as if he had realised something right there about the letter, Jodha and MA and it was the new Khaas Tohfa - Benny babes - who brought him back to this world whith a 'WT... Who is she and Why is she here' look.

But TE has not forgotten anything - neither 'THE NIGHT' nor 'His Insult' - The million dollar Q is what he thinks of 'His Insult' which is still hidden and as for 'THE NIGHT' and Jodha's response to it - this was presented in the Wednesday epi - which was all about Nazariya and Drishtikon and TE telling his Chudail - why dont you see things frm my POV!!!

As I have said - the makers have invested a lot in putting together a fantastic characterisation for TE and they are on the flow to making this the number 1 show - and this will never be achieved by making TE look like an idiot who can be easily led by the likes of MA - especially when they have given dialogues of TE's faith in his Ameri Mirchi - If they were changing writers constantly there was scope for inconsistency but their writers, for screenplay and dialogue, have been the same throughout.
And to make this the number 1 show they have to tread a new path yet present it with the old packaging - warna jitne audience hain unhe hi kho denge.
I believe currently they are working on the layers of Jodha who till now was very unidimensional with her "GRIHNA" mode.
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

In my earlier post when Benny baby was introduced I had already hinted at TE's suspicion about her - his smile said a lot. No one gave a hoot here in the forum!!! what do I say now I wonder????

As for the entire insult Jodha / make Jodha J drama - I have already given my take on that in 2 different posts of my own and as various comments on various threads.

As for TE's feelings of insult and his anger about 'THE NIGHT' - TE is a man who is quick to anger but is also one who regains his balance very fast - I had mentioned this too in another post that when he went to meet MA after Jodha's SKL (stree ki lalsa) bhashan he was very agitated but by the time his convo ended with MA on that letter, uski saari hawa nikal gayi thi - almost as if he had realised something right there about the letter, Jodha and MA and it was the new Khaas Tohfa - Benny babes - who brought him back to this world whith a 'WT... Who is she and Why is she here' look.

But TE has not forgotten anything - neither 'THE NIGHT' nor 'His Insult' - The million dollar Q is what he thinks of 'His Insult' which is still hidden and as for 'THE NIGHT' and Jodha's response to it - this was presented in the Wednesday epi - which was all about Nazariya and Drishtikon and TE telling his Chudail - why dont you see things frm my POV!!!

As I have said - the makers have invested a lot in putting together a fantastic characterisation for TE and they are on the flow to making this the number 1 show - and this will never be achieved by making TE look like an idiot who can be easily led by the likes of MA - especially when they have given dialogues of TE's faith in his Ameri Mirchi - If they were changing writers constantly there was scope for inconsistency but their writers, for screenplay and dialogue, have been the same throughout.
And to make this the number 1 show they have to tread a new path yet present it with the old packaging - warna jitne audience hain unhe hi kho denge.
I believe currently they are working on the layers of Jodha who till now was very unidimensional with her "GRIHNA" mode.


oh you have so much faith in the CVs. CVs could have made him lay golden eggs in the last track but nooo. so i don't know how much hope we should hold on to in seeing a classic TE jalal. ideally what i would like to see is jalal is firing from all cylinders, he is focusing on his personal issues and hasn't lost focus on the political front. he suspects jodha is telling the truth but also knows she feels for him so he is using benazir to get it out of her, he also suspects the kaneez is a spy so he is doing some behind the scenes jasoos, something is stirring in kabul his brother coming grey clouds are rising he is trying to work that out as well of who is conspiring with whom by having them all under one roof recipient of his generous hospitality, he is also keeping MA in the dark this is the one that doesn't fit into this grand plan if he suspects her I can't imagine what he wants to do about it. Remember in the last track there were clear indications that he suspected her and we all wrote essays on his great brain finally working overtime to figure her out and trap her but alas all our great conspiracies went tel lene. but now again to think along the same lines is pointless only because writers won't let that happen. so for now we just have to assume jalal will be dense about MA forever till the story wants to off her. so ek theer se chaar nishana. well again all this would be dream like if only the writers had enough imagination to think of an elaborate plot.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: loveanime


oh you have so much faith in the CVs. CVs could have made him lay golden eggs in the last track but nooo. so i don't know how much hope we should hold on to in seeing a classic TE jalal. ideally what i would like to see is jalal is firing from all cylinders, he is focusing on his personal issues and hasn't lost focus on the political front. he suspects jodha is telling the truth but also knows she feels for him so he is using benazir to get it out of her, he also suspects the kaneez is a spy so he is doing some behind the scenes jasoos, something is stirring in kabul his brother coming grey clouds are rising he is trying to work that out as well of who is conspiring with whom by having them all under one roof recipient of his generous hospitality, he is also keeping MA in the dark this is the one that doesn't fit into this grand plan if he suspects her I can't imagine what he wants to do about it. Remember in the last track there were clear indications that he suspected her and we all wrote essays on his great brain finally working overtime to figure her out and trap her but alas all our great conspiracies went tel lene. but now again to think along the same lines is pointless only because writers won't let that happen. so for now we just have to assume jalal will be dense about MA forever till the story wants to off her. so ek theer se chaar nishana. well again all this would be dream like if only the writers had enough imagination to think of an elaborate plot.


My dear in my Oh Jalal My Jajal thread I had posted yesterday that as for now he has no big plans and that is true.

As of now he has one plan - to understand this naya hara roop of his Chudail.
At the same time he is not taken in by Benny Baby either and hence is on an alert mode there. Most probably he has her on his list of spies who have to be kept under the scanner and he may be doing just that.

As for MA and her uksaoing - well TE sunn sabki raha hai par kar kya raha hai yeh abhi kisi ko nahin pata!!!

As for plots, most writers prefer to go for a simple plot but mire it in so much detail that we audience generally miss out on the simplicity. And the simpler the plot the easier it is to handle and execute and make it seem complicated.
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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