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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hey Mansi, good post. i just read few replies to ur post. seems many r upset over the episode. and I know they r right. Frankly, today i want to know the reaction of all Jodha bashers, over Jalal's behaviour. I m sure there will be atleast few who will support his behaviour , saying Jo was responsible for it, coz she insulted him first. But then if anybody supports Jalal today, i m not surprised. the ones who think Jalal is always right coz he is lead of the show, and Jo should be typical bahu, they will keep supporting Jalal and bashing Jodha. So how many r there?

anyway, many r saying, episode was bad, just not expected to see something like that. right. But then for me , it was the episode marking all the lead characters to future tracks, hinting how they will go on. the episode clearly put all the characters in such positions to show the exact difference btw them. For me out of the episode or rather this track till date Jodha is coming as a winner while Jalal all set to the greater transformation we r expecting for last 120+ episodes i.e (not Akbar), being a human who will look beyond himself when this track will be over.

Maham seems to go deeper down to being more evil , all glorified abt thinking the rift btw AkDha as her victory. even Ruku's ignoring her couldn't make her go back from her evil plans. she was at her best in fooling Jalal all the time and he is just pampering her with his blind trust.

Abt Ruku, i really wish she would be the one to save AkDha relationship. and yes, she seemed calculated. or may be we r reading more in this situations coz we r expecting her to act. May be she no more fears that Jo will took Jalal away from her as now she knows that Jo was the one to save her marriage. and she is not threatened by Benazir coz may be she is used to Jalal's lust for beautiful (?) woman like Benazir. so after yest's episode , now I m not expecting much from Ruku, except that she will talk to Jo abt the letter and tell her abt Jalal's inability to read. but right now, no i m not expecting Ruku to be of more use to Jodha , coz she was not even shocked when Jalal was insulting Jo in court openly, rather i felt she was pleased. ( i may be wrong) I know yest only i had said Ruku can bridge the gap btw AkDha, and today's my take is diff. but i have this feeling. Don't know why...

Hameeda , salima and two others were there today , and when Jalal clearly humiliated Jodha in court , HB was not pleased. I m expecting her to confront Jalal on it (not that it will be any of use, seeing his current mood), and then HB or Saleema talking to Jo abt Jalal's behaviour and may be Jo will tell them the whole thing, from her side. coz these r only persons, where she opens her heart. so , i said , Ruku might not play major role here , but may be again Salima who will get to know Jo's version and will tell her abt Jalal's inability to read, and then it will be Jo herself with the help of Salima, will find the truth, and will try to rectify it. if ruku can be there with them, i will be more happy.

now back to our AkDha; exact difference btw the two personalities, and that too only due to their upbringing and surroundings. Jo has always got love, trust and a happy life in Amer, and that's why she is the way she is. while Jalal has always seen a hard life, fighting all the time, and surrounded by backstabbers. and so he is the way he is. while in tuesday episode, where he felt she rejected and insulted him , still she did it only when there were only two of them, btw the four walls of their private space. same time yest he was insulting and rejecting her in public, which shows the difference btw the two. while she understands and respects the nature of their relationship , he has no meaning for that if it doesn't go as he wants. I know many will ask me, how can i say it, coz he hasn't touched her against her will till date. But then he is intelligent enough to understand that if he does it against her will , and she does something to herself, his dream to rule the Rajputana and other parts of the country will always be a dream. Half of the nation may turn against him or even unite. and yes, he knows it very well. and in that case he is very calculated.

else, who could have stopped him if after her rejection , he would have forced her, there only. certainly not Jodha.. afterall he can be strong enough to take her against her will , if he wants to. still he is not doing it. why? i think somewhere in his mind he knows the consequences of that.

anyway, now Jodha seems to be a wounded tigress, and i really wish she only will be the one who will bring him to sences with her dignified manner. I was comparing yest after seeing his behavior that while she never lost her dignity while rejecting him, he didn't showen dignity at all while humiliating her publically. Now all Jodha need to understand and act calmly to show what she is. I really don't want to see her all poor girl, hurt and so crying all the time and then becoming mahaan. no , she is Raajvanshi , and she should act like one, and solve the matter with her own way without confronting MA or Jalal. coz then she will surely lose. the best thing is if she could expose MA, but it seems difficult.

abt this Benazir, then it seems Jalal is only using her to get reaction out of Jodha, and he only will be the one who will send her back to where she comes from.

Precap : same . more insulting Jalal or is he calculating? but if that's the case, and Jo comes to know abt his game, he is going to pay big time. I really wish, if it's a game from him, this time Jo should leave him and go away atleast for few days..

let's wait and watch where CVs r taking us...

Diksha, there seems some ray of positive hope in your post which is badly needed. I agree with you this Ruq is 50-50 but she still seems the best bet so far to help out! I am running a high fever today (not because of the bad episode!) so I am not writing a big reply to your post, which I feel I should since it is such a good post. But I'll try to come back to this later in the day!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62
Hi..😕..

Frankly, I did not read ur EntirE analysis today...
Didn't have that feeling today..
coz..
Yesterday, what i saw and what you all saw was something we all do not want to see again.

All limits crossed..yesterday.
Jo was correct---> Sari seemayen tutengi...Yes, "tut gai"...

B'coz after this,
What more "seemao ka tutna" do we expect now.??.I have no future hopes..ryt now..

That, seema ka tutna dialogue looks apt now.
Only difference that, it was not for that night but a night after that..

ABOVE ALL, the thing which is gnawing me is the precap for today..🤓..
What is going to happen..??

Jalal...😡...Always "galat fehmi ka shikaar"...
MA...🤬..."she is Brutus part 2"..."will meet her end in a similar way"...

Whatever, i may say...but it was horrible, unbearable, and IMPOSSIBLE to gulp down..
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi..😕..

Frankly, I did not read ur EntirE analysis today...
Didn't have that feeling today..
coz..
Yesterday, what i saw and what you all saw was something we all do not want to see again.

All limits crossed..yesterday.
Jo was correct---> Sari seemayen tutengi...Yes, "tut gai"...

B'coz after this,
What more "seemao ka tutna" do we expect now.??.I have no future hopes..ryt now..

That, seema ka tutna dialogue looks apt now.
Only difference that, it was not for that night but a night after that..

ABOVE ALL, the thing which is gnawing me is the precap for today..🤓..
What is going to happen..??

Jalal...😡...Always "galat fehmi ka shikaar"...
MA...🤬..."she is Brutus part 2"..."will meet her end in a similar way"...

Whatever, i may say...but it was horrible, unbearable, and IMPOSSIBLE to gulp down..

As I wrote to Sangeetha also, this looks straight out of Mohammed Bin Tughlak ka empire not Akbar! I would not have expected Akbar to stoop to this level just to teach Jodha a lesson!Angry
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi I really bow down to u for writing such a fab take on such a pathetic epi 👏👏 .. seriously the episode was so bad that I almost closed my eyes in few scenes like the one when Benazir entered the hall almost half naked and all eyes were giving those lecherous looks to her including Tansen 🤢 and second was that precap 🤢,..

I fail to understand that since when kings started making dancers sit beside them along with their wives and how come Ruqaiyya had no issues with it 😕.. If that was the case then in future Jalal would hv happily agreed for his son Salim and Anarkali ka marriage too na 😳😆😆... For me the episode was typical Ekta's creativity with no real history involved .. I hope she just rectifies it soon 😡..

I will hv to praise Jodha today for trying to sort out the issue with Jalal by making an attempt to talk to him and also trying to make him realise that last night he was drunk and out of control 👍🏼.. I also appreciate the way Jodha tried to make Jalal realise that last night it was not his love for her but pure physical lust and so she had to push him away 👍🏼... Jalal need to realise that irrespective of the letter confusion , he first need to understand the real meaning of love which is not just about hving a physical relationship with your partner but also trying to respect and understand your partner's emotions and feelings first before taking the relationship to the next level ... Today even if Jodha had written a love letter to Jalal , still she would never really expect Jalal to pounce on her first night itself without even talking about their respective feelings ...

Jalal's anger to some extent is justified espcially after the whole letter confusion and the unexpected push by Jodha but still by no means it makes sense that he humiliates all his wives in diwaan-e-khaas by asking a random dancer to sit besides him and then asking Jodha to leave from there 👎🏼.. I wish Ruqaiyya had opposed this whole Benazir sitting besides Jalal decision since benazir is just a dancer and not one of his begums 😡...

Precap less said the better

I m really feeling bad for Jodha now ... Jalal better redeem himself soon ... There is no real excuse of why Jalal will treat Jodha in this manner that too in front of a random dancer 😡.. He can simply not talk to her , show all his anger on her , which will b all fine but doing these cheap things with Benazir in front of Jodha to make her jealous or whatever is so Un-Shehenshah like 👎🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Mansi I really bow down to u for writing such a fab take on such a pathetic epi 👏👏 .. seriously the episode was so bad that I almost closed my eyes in few scenes like the one when Benazir entered the hall almost half naked and all eyes were giving those lecherous looks to her including Tansen 🤢 and second was that precap 🤢,..

I fail to understand that since when kings started making dancers sit beside them along with their wives and how come Ruqaiyya had no issues with it 😕.. If that was the case then in future Jalal would hv happily agreed for his son Salim and Anarkali ka marriage too na 😳😆😆... For me the episode was typical Ekta's creativity with no real history involved .. I hope she just rectifies it soon 😡..

I will hv to praise Jodha today for trying to sort out the issue with Jalal by making an attempt to talk to him and also trying to make him realise that last night he was drunk and out of control 👍🏼.. I also appreciate the way Jodha tried to make Jalal realise that last night it was not his love for her but pure physical lust and so she had to push him away 👍🏼... Jalal need to realise that irrespective of the letter confusion , he first need to understand the real meaning of love which is not just about hving a physical relationship with your partner but also trying to respect and understand your partner's emotions and feelings first before taking the relationship to the next level ... Today even if Jodha had written a love letter to Jalal , still she would never really expect Jalal to pounce on her first night itself without even talking about their respective feelings ...

Jalal's anger to some extent is justified espcially after the whole letter confusion and the unexpected push by Jodha but still by no means it makes sense that he humiliates all his wives in diwaan-e-khaas by asking a random dancer to sit besides him and then asking Jodha to leave from there 👎🏼.. I wish Ruqaiyya had opposed this whole Benazir sitting besides Jalal decision since benazir is just a dancer and not one of his begums 😡...

Precap less said the better

I m really feeling bad for Jodha now ... Jalal better redeem himself soon ... There is no real excuse of why Jalal will treat Jodha in this manner that too in front of a random dancer 😡.. He can simply not talk to her , show all his anger on her , which will b all fine but doing these cheap things with Benazir in front of Jodha to make her jealous or whatever is so Un-Shehenshah like 👎🏼

Jyoti, what about that horrible awful moment when Jodha got up to go and sit next to jalal and found that he wanted the danvcer to sit there instead? I felt as if she has humiliated all of us women by doing that! Can't she at least have the brains that after such a big fight the previous night with jalal and then also in the morning, how will he ask her to come and sit next to him?
That was my lowest point of the episode. I was so mortified!OuchAngry
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks nandini!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

Mansi I really bow down to u for writing such a fab take on such a pathetic epi👏👏 .. seriously the episode was so bad that I almost closed my eyes in few scenes like the one when Benazir entered the hall almost half naked and all eyes were giving those lecherous looks to her including Tansen 🤢 and second was that precap 🤢,..

I fail to understand that since when kings started making dancers sit beside them along with their wives and how come Ruqaiyya had no issues with it 😕.. If that was the case then in future Jalal would hv happily agreed for his son Salim and Anarkali ka marriage too na 😳😆😆... For me the episode was typical Ekta's creativity with no real history involved .. I hope she just rectifies it soon 😡..

I will hv to praise Jodha today for trying to sort out the issue with Jalal by making an attempt to talk to him and also trying to make him realise that last night he was drunk and out of control 👍🏼.. I also appreciate the way Jodha tried to make Jalal realise that last night it was not his love for her but pure physical lust and so she had to push him away 👍🏼... Jalal need to realise that irrespective of the letter confusion , he first need to understand the real meaning of love which is not just about hving a physical relationship with your partner but also trying to respect and understand your partner's emotions and feelings first before taking the relationship to the next level ... Today even if Jodha had written a love letter to Jalal , still she would never really expect Jalal to pounce on her first night itself without even talking about their respective feelings ...

Jalal's anger to some extent is justified espcially after the whole letter confusion and the unexpected push by Jodha but still by no means it makes sense that he humiliates all his wives in diwaan-e-khaas by asking a random dancer to sit besides him and then asking Jodha to leave from there 👎🏼.. I wish Ruqaiyya had opposed this whole Benazir sitting besides Jalal decision since benazir is just a dancer and not one of his begums 😡...

Precap less said the better

I m really feeling bad for Jodha now ... Jalal better redeem himself soon ... There is no real excuse of why Jalal will treat Jodha in this manner that too in front of a random dancer 😡.. He can simply not talk to her , show all his anger on her , which will b all fine but doing these cheap things with Benazir in front of Jodha to make her jealous or whatever is so Un-Shehenshah like 👎🏼


nice put..i won't ever digest this fact that real akbar could have humiliated his any begum at public place such ruthlessly. It was totally ekta's own brain's idea that i saw in many shows of hers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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He is doing all this nonsense of his as Jalal not as Akbar.,...
Akbar was a far better human... 😊
The Jalal needs to die before Akbar is Born... and for that Maham needs to die...😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Looks like someone else has suddenly started doing the scripting. Does sound like the character that has evolved so far!


seriously yaar..looks like someone has changed in the team or they r in just only one thought - retain the TRP's and No.1 pos..I jst hope JA also doesn't become like other shows...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akanksha_33

He is doing all this nonsense of his as Jalal not as Akbar.,...

Akbar was a far better human...😊
The Jalal needs to die before Akbar is Born... and for that Maham needs to die...😡


nevertheless the present track has huge imitation with ekta's many shows where hero likes to humiliate heroine openly n makes her crybaby..i hope jodha wl not b crybady n keep continuing her prejudice.

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