Ruq seems to hold the key to a solution for Jodha-Jalal! - Page 6

Originally posted by: Anu_11

I am a silent reader on this forum. After today's episode can't resists myself from commenting, specially after reading a perfect analysis, totally agree with you on each and every point.
Jalal letting a performer to sit next to him?whatever happened to Mughal Shaan and izzat?
How come Rukaiya tolerated this, it was her insult too?
Is this the same Akbar from Mughal e azam who was against anarkali and salim's love because she was a dancer?
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Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

I was just Cringing after yesterday's episode..shraddha and sandhya,this is a bad episode, not the one last week which we discussed here..last week ,when everybody was lamenting about the butchering of jalal's character,I was one among the few who felt that jalal needs to make mistakes and learn..but yesterday's episode was a colossal blunder where the emperor had forgotten the basic public etiquette..can there be worse butchering than this..before I go further let me clear my stance about my leanings- neither am I bashing jalal nor am I pro-jo..this is just the handiwork of the cvs and all grievances are addressed to them..

Kashi had pmed me asking my opinion on yesterday's episode..I told her that I felt uneasy ,this is because of several factors..I wanted to vent out my frustration and thanks to kashi for helping me figure out the reasons behind this unease..

1.has the emperor forgotten the basic rule of matrimony-that you don't air the grievance against your partner in public..though it was the mughal era and the actions of the royalty are always in the public eye,I expected that nonconfirmation of unhappiness coming out of either jodha or Jalal' s mouth or their action..even when jo denounced jalal during the pregnancy track,it was only before HB,GB,MA and not before the entire DEK..

2.even if this track is to spruce up the latent jealousy in jo,can't they have done it without lowering the prestige of the throne and jalal..a nautch girl on the throne setting a bad example to the courtiers..what will be the difference between adham Khan and jalal in the courtiers' eye..pathetic story and screenplay..

3.Jo's actions were even more perplexing..can she expect a place beside her husband after having a major altercation with him just the previous night..another cringe worthy scene .if the cvs wanted Jo's self esteem to be hurt,if they wanted her trust on jalal to be shaken,then can't they have done it with little more finesse..if this is a dispassionate view on that scene,my view on it as a woman left me really sad..

4.I am not happy with the choice of Benazir..she looked liked a walking piece of flesh instead of a seductress of repute..😡

5.I had no expectations from ruqqu and still have nothing from her..even if she ever helps jo,it will be partly to fulfill her own agenda- Jalal and me agenda..I may sound downright rude but she has made mark on my mind as a lady with a selfish agenda and always eager to prove her superiority..I am not blaming that empress ruqqu in history but ekta' s ruqqu has written in this way..

I wrote the above as a viewer with No gender or character affiliation..as a woman,I was hurt by the treatment meted out to jo.I reiterate my stance about ja-jo being responsible for the present imbroglio rather than MA being the perpetrator ..MA has fanned the already existing insecurity of unacknowledged love..this problem will have a resolution only when this love will be acknowledged ...by that time,jo-ja would have almost lost the other before reclaiming their loved one..

Superb analysis mansi..I found your ridiculing the episode really fun to read

Sangeetha, believe me, I spent half and hour agonising that I couldn't find one nice thing to say about the episode, then I sat and wrote all that I did without any other recourse. Even now I can seem to find any logic in the actions of Jalal, Jodha, Maham, Ruq, the whole concert, Benazir ... nothing! Everything looks like a parody on the Mughal Sultanate under Akbar. If this was the story of Muhammmed Bin Tughlak it would have all fitted!

Originally posted by: Jeevitha.P

i have run out of words to praise u👏 so i will not comment on tat... anyways did u not fell that Ruq seemed relieved tat joja had a fight and she seemed quite happy abt the same...am i the only 1 feeling it or may be i have misinterpreted the whole ruq look...do enlighten me.

Originally posted by: ann2012

Great analysis Mansi 👏

Your posts are always a treat to read.

1) I think the 'toofan' and 'andhi' dialogue by Ruq was in reference to the ladies in Jalal's life.

Jodha= the toofan, who almost usurped Ruq's 'position'

Benazir= the aandhi, who could try to win Jalal's affection but wouldn't affect Ruq in general

The dialogue conveyed Ruq's excessive confidence that Jalal's couldn't really love a woman and had a new muse every now and then.

2) Also, Jo trying to take her place by Jalal was heartbreaking. But she was instigated by Hamida's nod. Hamida gave her slight nod which assured her that she should take the seat beside the Shahenshah.

Originally posted by: Abie10

Mansi, very well written!👏👏 i didn't like the episode. Jalal is angry and wants Jodha to feel his pain but it was too much. Which King calls a dancer to sit in place of his wife? And what surprised me more was why Jodha thought Jalal was coming to call her name? She never does that even when they in good terms what made her stood up am still wondering.😕

About what Ruqqu is thinking or Maham telling Jodha to leave I'll skip that bit and see what happens today.😕

Originally posted by: Mages

excellent analysis for a bad epi...👍🏼😡

Originally posted by: katana

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Originally posted by: skanda12

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What other choice is there than to be highly optimistic on some one person? Otherwise how is this MU going to be solved?😲

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hey Mansi, good post. i just read few replies to ur post. seems many r upset over the episode. and I know they r right. Frankly, today i want to know the reaction of all Jodha bashers, over Jalal's behaviour. I m sure there will be atleast few who will support his behaviour , saying Jo was responsible for it, coz she insulted him first. But then if anybody supports Jalal today, i m not surprised. the ones who think Jalal is always right coz he is lead of the show, and Jo should be typical bahu, they will keep supporting Jalal and bashing Jodha. So how many r there?

anyway, many r saying, episode was bad, just not expected to see something like that. right. But then for me , it was the episode marking all the lead characters to future tracks, hinting how they will go on. the episode clearly put all the characters in such positions to show the exact difference btw them. For me out of the episode or rather this track till date Jodha is coming as a winner while Jalal all set to the greater transformation we r expecting for last 120+ episodes i.e (not Akbar), being a human who will look beyond himself when this track will be over.

Maham seems to go deeper down to being more evil , all glorified abt thinking the rift btw AkDha as her victory. even Ruku's ignoring her couldn't make her go back from her evil plans. she was at her best in fooling Jalal all the time and he is just pampering her with his blind trust.

Abt Ruku, i really wish she would be the one to save AkDha relationship. and yes, she seemed calculated. or may be we r reading more in this situations coz we r expecting her to act. May be she no more fears that Jo will took Jalal away from her as now she knows that Jo was the one to save her marriage. and she is not threatened by Benazir coz may be she is used to Jalal's lust for beautiful (?) woman like Benazir. so after yest's episode , now I m not expecting much from Ruku, except that she will talk to Jo abt the letter and tell her abt Jalal's inability to read. but right now, no i m not expecting Ruku to be of more use to Jodha , coz she was not even shocked when Jalal was insulting Jo in court openly, rather i felt she was pleased. ( i may be wrong) I know yest only i had said Ruku can bridge the gap btw AkDha, and today's my take is diff. but i have this feeling. Don't know why...

Hameeda , salima and two others were there today , and when Jalal clearly humiliated Jodha in court , HB was not pleased. I m expecting her to confront Jalal on it (not that it will be any of use, seeing his current mood), and then HB or Saleema talking to Jo abt Jalal's behaviour and may be Jo will tell them the whole thing, from her side. coz these r only persons, where she opens her heart. so , i said , Ruku might not play major role here , but may be again Salima who will get to know Jo's version and will tell her abt Jalal's inability to read, and then it will be Jo herself with the help of Salima, will find the truth, and will try to rectify it. if ruku can be there with them, i will be more happy.

now back to our AkDha; exact difference btw the two personalities, and that too only due to their upbringing and surroundings. Jo has always got love, trust and a happy life in Amer, and that's why she is the way she is. while Jalal has always seen a hard life, fighting all the time, and surrounded by backstabbers. and so he is the way he is. while in tuesday episode, where he felt she rejected and insulted him , still she did it only when there were only two of them, btw the four walls of their private space. same time yest he was insulting and rejecting her in public, which shows the difference btw the two. while she understands and respects the nature of their relationship , he has no meaning for that if it doesn't go as he wants. I know many will ask me, how can i say it, coz he hasn't touched her against her will till date. But then he is intelligent enough to understand that if he does it against her will , and she does something to herself, his dream to rule the Rajputana and other parts of the country will always be a dream. Half of the nation may turn against him or even unite. and yes, he knows it very well. and in that case he is very calculated.

else, who could have stopped him if after her rejection , he would have forced her, there only. certainly not Jodha.. afterall he can be strong enough to take her against her will , if he wants to. still he is not doing it. why? i think somewhere in his mind he knows the consequences of that.

anyway, now Jodha seems to be a wounded tigress, and i really wish she only will be the one who will bring him to sences with her dignified manner. I was comparing yest after seeing his behavior that while she never lost her dignity while rejecting him, he didn't showen dignity at all while humiliating her publically. Now all Jodha need to understand and act calmly to show what she is. I really don't want to see her all poor girl, hurt and so crying all the time and then becoming mahaan. no , she is Raajvanshi , and she should act like one, and solve the matter with her own way without confronting MA or Jalal. coz then she will surely lose. the best thing is if she could expose MA, but it seems difficult.

abt this Benazir, then it seems Jalal is only using her to get reaction out of Jodha, and he only will be the one who will send her back to where she comes from.

Precap : same . more insulting Jalal or is he calculating? but if that's the case, and Jo comes to know abt his game, he is going to pay big time. I really wish, if it's a game from him, this time Jo should leave him and go away atleast for few days..

let's wait and watch where CVs r taking us...