17th Dec JA-JO - Two innocent souls, Two culpable beings

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I kept telling myself 'No lashy don't do this...this episode will pass and this MU shall pass too - just like the many others that our 'feistier-than-usual' couple have been through. They will emerge victorious, get back, become 'friends', TRPs shall pour in, Zee will pocket the money - and we'll still be here - rummaging our grey cells and losing hair over the tracks!'šŸ˜†

Yet, every other hour when I logged in and read different versions of the scenes and beautiful analysis-after-analysis on the episode yesterday, couldn't restrain myself from penning something down.šŸ˜›

Also, after a long time it is that I think Vicky, Shyamala aunty, Meghana and Mansi have written something in unison. Come to think about it - the more 'pleasant' episodes did not do this trick. 😃
That gets me back to the point - the CVs just seem to prove us wrong and themselves right - time and again it is 'Drama' that brings in the maximum input - be it of outrage or of emotions - and thence the TRPs!šŸ˜•
Therefore this is how it shall continue to be - 2 episodes of romance followed by 20 episodes of drama. For the sake of THIS VERY drama, leads will undergo catastrophic changes and deviation from their usual mode of behaviour - just so the TRP audience can have someone to root for and against - and this shall happen in phases.
If one track will turn out to be 'Hail Jalal' the next set 'Hail Jodha'

In just the past track, Jalal was shown to have immense trust on Jodha - after a simple meeting with Salima - and proved her innocent in the fake pregnancy drama. All this, while Jodha trusted him for not an instant! Now, its Jalal's turn to misunderstand her. This series of MUs shall go on and on and on and this is serial-duniyaa ka adbuth principle!

As for the episode itself - both have erred, but both are innocent in their intentions. Both never meant to hurt the other, but both have misunderstood the other! So fret not girls! As long as our leads' basic principles are not compromised with and they continue to remain pure in their intentions - we have something to root for!
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As for the episode itself- I might be in the minority when I feel Jodha and Jalal were both - EQUALLY culpable and yet EQUALLY innocent yesterday!
Maham is a different angle all together and Ashwini's character only played a catalyst in this entire misunderstanding. The root of the problems in the bedroom scene still lay with our leads - who obviously are humans and bound to err! 😊

Why Jalal some might ask? Seeing how his tear-filled out-pour of emotions to his lady would have moved anyone - just as it did Jodha too at the start. I still think his 'haath kaanpna' was an amplified version of his feeling - it was the alcohol talking and that he's not at that stage of the LOVE yet.

Anyway, what I mean to say is that he is not completely absent of blame for what happened yesterday - and before I shoot off, I herewith insert a disclaimer that this is the CVs Jalal I am referring to! Not Rajat or Akbar!šŸ˜†

CVs twist - Jalal has drunk alcohol many times in the past. A man who's a regular drinker and who's quite well-built as he is, should/would be able to withstand its effects. They wouldn't generally be reduced to such a sorry state unless bottle-after-bottle was downed! Even on his first night in Agra with Jo, he was drunk - but, he still had his head on his shoulders then. This intense state of intoxication was all created for added-effect by the CVs!!! Either way, it was shown - so let's get on with the show...

Jalal Jalal Jalal.... you knew it was a special night - the first one of its sort with Jodha. Even if you aren't in love with her, you're definitely in love with the thought she loved you. In such an instance, you landing at her door - in the middle of the night - in such a haggard drunken state that you could barely walk two steps in a straight line doesn't look glorious of you, my dear! Granted, your route was diverted by MA, but still it was YOU who took the ultimate decision - be it to drink or be it to make it to her door!

Any respectable wife (my emphasis is on both words - respectable & wife) would not relish this - more so Jodha! The fact that she was dignified in the manner in which she received her inebriate husband was praiseworthy!😊

As for the act of the push itself, I am with many who say that she DID push, but it was ONLY a knee-jerk reaction - and she was in her rights to have NOT wanted to indulge a drunk husband too (I say this as a 21st century version of the 16th century Begum - we know not what happened then!)
But then again, why the hue & cry about the push? Was it because of the sorry visuals of watching the mighty Shehenshah on the floor? Was that not his own doing to start with? My observation of his state was such that had Jodha not nudged him, he would have tripped on some stool and fallen flat on the ground himself at a later stage! Would that have been all right, then? Also, the image of him on the floor was more figurative - in a manner to show that he was at his lowest-low then. I do not think even Jalal was enraged about the act of the 'push' as he was about the fact that he felt betrayed by her. It is obvious when he's sitting on the floor that his blood begins boiling when he listen to her words of 'Ham aapse prem nahi karte hain'
Even in his flashbacks on the scene later, he recollects her dialogues, not the act of the push!

As for the physicality of the night - for starters, I doubt he could have carried on any further than the overcoat at allšŸ˜†. Thereafter, he went on to abruptly remove her overcoat twice - despite the fact that she was growing uncomfortable about it. Now compare this behaviour of his, with the very dream he'd been having in the previous episode - how charming was the manner in which he was seducing her then!😳 Obviously, he wasn't thinking straight because of the effect of the alcohol. There was a lack of finesse in his physical approach to the entire 'first night' and this is something that could/would have put off many!
If he was in his senses, he would never have behaved so - a skilled lover like him would have known to read his wife's body language in an instant! So, the fact that he boozed-to-the-brim was his fault and at least some of this entire fiasco could have been averted had he not done so (seeing how it didn't seem like MA drugged him or force-fed him alcohol!)

This young man was a victim of his circumstances and of alcohol. The circumstances were meant to happen - the alcohol could have been averted! He would have at least acted more dignified in her chambers, if nothing else and saved himself the humiliation!


Why Jodha some might ask? Seeing how she was so dignified in the manner in which she dealt with him yesterday at the start.
However, she is not completely absent of blame for what happened yesterday - and before I shoot off, I herewith insert a disclaimer that this is the CVs Jodha I am referring to! Not Paridhi or Hira Kunwari!

Jodha Jodha Jodha, you might not have intentionally meant it, but you did lead him on, dear.

When a man comes into your chamber - in the middle of the night - pouring out his heart's feelings to you. A man who's not aggrieved by anything and clearly not discussing about any woman other than you. A man who you've never really had touchy-feely relationship with. With such a man, you take his hand in yours, pull him back when he's about to walk away and then don't actively discourage his initial advances - especially when the said man is a drunken individual (who are known to have poorer self-restraint than wholly conscious individuals) - then, the man will see it all as being 'led on' by you - and as a positive signal.

I know many might here not agree - but, I'd like to hear a guy say so.😊
Friends, leave beside the Karan Johar version of how metro-cosmo friends behave today with all this hugging and falling-on-one-another -put on your practical glasses before embarking on this debate. Ask your friend, ask a stranger, ask a boyfriend, ask husband - any of the 'male' kind.. from any generation... or country and the majority of them would tell you this
After all that transpired above, if the lady nudged away his advances with a NO - a gentleman might walk off and not take it to the next level. However, he'd still walk away cheesed off from it all - like he was short-changed in the bargain!

I do not doubt for even a second that Jodha is totally innocent of understanding the effect her actions were having on him - after all, the CVs have always portrayed Jo as one with little experience/understanding of romance. She was only trying to empathize with him. So, just like many many unwitting girls/women do so even today - in the process, she gave him 'signals' without realizing she was doing so. This is because she (as many other girls/women I've noticed) fail to understand a man's psyche in this issue - while men are emotional and women physical too, romance for women is primarily emotional and mental; and romance for men is more visual and physical!

The CVs twist -Remember; Jodha HAS touched him in the past too - he NEVER took advantage of it - like in the tel maalish scene. Similarly, in this instance had Jodha stayed in her yellow lehenga with her usually dignified behaviour at an arm's length away - I doubt the scenario would have escalated to this extent at all.
Again, just like the CVs HAD to portray a drunker-than-usual Jalal for the sake of drama, they ended up portraying a more sensuous-than-usual Jodha purely to make us 'feel' the effect of Jalal's rejection all the more. If not, why the SUDDEN appearance of a sleeveless green nightie (Kamal, Sangeeta and Abhay have to clarify if this sort of dressing even existed then), the sudden manifestation of valentenized candles, the sudden behaviour of 'I'll take your hand in mine' Shehnshah?

OUTCOME
This take of mine was still on the bedroom scene alone - not Jo's apology and Jalal's walk to Ruq's chambers...have to wait and watch to see how it unfolds

I still think Jalal is more obsessed about Jodha than 'in love' with her. If not, his reaction after the rejection would have been different. It would have taken longer for him to come out of betrayal if he was deeply in love - definitely longer than a quick dip in the haman!
When you are truly in love with someone; even if a rejection/betrayal enrages you and you WANT to avenge it - when it comes down to acting upon it, you wouldn't be able to see him/her in pain.
The very fact that he WANTS Jo to understand his wounded ego and MAKE her jealous is akin to the fact that these two are still at loggerheads and at the 'Is she attracted to me?' 'Is he attracted to me?' stages.

So, my advise is to not feel too sorry for the Shehenshah when he himself is not feeling so sorry for himself nowšŸ˜†.
He's already bounced back and off to his next plan that looks so tantalizing even the khadoos Tansen's mouth was agape!šŸ˜†
And a jealous Jodha - my my - in the past five months I'm yet to see this aspect of hers. I can' WAIIIT to see how this unfolds!

My my gotta love these two
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lashy thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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OMG this has turned out longer than anything else I typed...I dont blame anyone, if you don't make it all the way to the end šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Fulla padichitten! Enakku edhavadu prize irukka?šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†
Seriously, Lashy, indha rendu peraiyum engeyavadu katti pottu adikkanum! Namba moolai perandu pokarathu!
I agree with your premise, can't blame them, and yet they've exposed their own vulnerabilities to exploitation so have to blame them. What we shouldn't do is to take things so seriously, its a silly serial after all!šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lashy good. Both are to be blamed. jalaal being drunked & unable to walk, while Jodha led and take the initiative & given him hope that what he wrote in the letter came from her heart.

One thing... Will Jalaal will do SR even if jodha agrees in that state ? šŸ˜†If Jodha ready also she will surely pour bucket water and will tell him DUDE wait till the alcohol affect go off šŸ˜†
Edited by abhi786 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Fulla padichitten! Enakku edhavadu prize irukka?šŸ˜†

Seriously, Lashy, indha rendu peraiyum engeyavadu katti pottu adikkanum! Namba moolai perandu pokarathu!
I agree with your premise, can't blame them, and yet they've exposed their own vulnerabilities to exploitation so have to blame them. What we shouldn't do is to take things so seriously, its a silly serial after all!šŸ˜†

Yes a big fat KISS your way Mwah!
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Do you know its the first time you've actually commented here 😲 adi paavee...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

Yes a big fat KISS your way Mwah!
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Do you know its the first time you've actually commented here 😲 adi paavee...

You know what Lashy, if you PM me each time you post I will drop by and put my two bits. The problem is that I am a very lazy bum and don't go searching for links after the first two pages!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Lashy good. Both are to be blamed. jalaal being drunked & unable to walk, while Jodha led and take the initiative & given him hope that what he wrote in the letter came from her heart.

One thing... Will Jalaal will do SR even if jodha agrees in that state ? šŸ˜†If Jodha ready also she will surely pour bucket water and will tell him DUDE wait till the alcohol affect go off šŸ˜†


True... where could he have gone on beyond overcoat at all...šŸ˜† the state he was in...

similarly, she also should realize that ending it with the 'friends' dialogue in THAT scenario wouldn't have cut it for MOST men.. I'm not even talking about the MU MA created...

Both are to blame.. 😊 both are innocent at heart and don't intentionally want to hurt another...thats what matters...
He wants to avenge his hurt etc..but, tomorrow if Jodha is in trouble, he'll be the first one to run to help her out..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

You know what Lashy, if you PM me each time you post I will drop by and put my two bits. The problem is that I am a very lazy bum and don't go searching for links after the first two pages!

Ile da... I TOTALLY understand..I was only pulling your leg!

you know what when I used to do regular analysis... it used to take me 4-5 hours EVERYDAY just to analyse and reply... I couldn't keep up
with this episode I couldn't keep away
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Posted: 11 years ago
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šŸ‘..Thank you Lashy for such sane and sensible post...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

šŸ‘..Thank you Lashy for such sane and sensible post...


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