Insulting an emperor?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think this serial is going overboard with Jodha's reactions.
First she misbehaves with an emperor in front of his citizens, soldiers and maids etc
Then she tells him in amer she is only bothered about her family izzat not even his life(after attack by elephant etc too)
No husband in 21st century leave alone an emperor in 15th century will take such insults from a wife.
So many times jalla told if she does ot love him to leave agra and go back but that also she does not do. Least jalal will expect her to respect and behave with dignity with him.
Today crossed all limits instead of speaking to him and clarifying he misunderstood about her letter and clearing his doubt what does Jodha do push him to the ground?
Which human let alone an husband will bear such insults that too when he thinks she called him with a love letter(it may be wrong but for jalal that is the truth right)?
Jodha forgets jalal is not only her husband he is an emperor and even if he sneezes it becomes news in entire agra.
Now to insult jalal what if maham speads news that jodha rejected him or pushed him so hard he landed on floor. That will make jalal feel more insulted.
Jodha should have rejected his advances but in more sophisticated ways. She is a princess not some women from a low family who will fight/push/shout at husband or any other family member. She must understand that. Then she says mughals are jallads, jalla is jallad. Where has jalal ever crossed his limits(Ok sometimes in anger he holds her hurtingly) as a husband/human being?
From starting jodha does not behave like a educated princess in her interactions especially with jalal in this serial. This must change. An emperor cannot be shown being physically manhandled by his wife even in a serial.
If something like this would truly happen to akbar he would have killed his wife then and there for sure in 15th century to avenge his insult.When anarkali was buried alive just for smiling at salim and akbar catching a glimpse we cannot imagine if such insult had happened what akbar would do?
Yes this is a serial and is all fiction but its on a real person. So we cannot show things that will never ever happen in dreams forget reality in a show i feel. If jalal wants to take revenge now for the insult it will only be a mild retaliation going by 15th century standards of behaviours from an emperor who was not known to be forgiving of insults.
Sample these reactions of real akbar
Once a king made akbar wait for 5 minutes and akbar had him whipped.
Once akbar asked salim to join him to swim in ganges on spate and he was scared to join in. Akbar ordered him into ganges and punished him. Salim was a kid then.
There are many such instances. Even kings were scared to talk in front of akbar and so its unbelievable a secondary wife will behave so with jalal/akbar. You can read rajput chronicles since its recorded there not in mughal records.
Please CVs next time think some logic do not go by 21st century ways of a wife behaving with husband. That was 15th century where wife would not dare talk forget raise voice in front of husband let alone if he is an emperor.
We understand the message you want to say akbar gave freedom to his wives and treated them as equals but that does not mean he falls to such an extent that we will not have any respect for him. People will only respect those who respect themselves not fall to any extent to get love of a wife when they have many more wives who are ready to do anything for their husband.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I'm seriously heart broke after this episode.. I did expect arguments and all but the pushing thing... I never expected it and I was shocked! I really hated that part... Women at that time would never dare to do this...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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anarkali wwas not burried alive...akbar freed her secrretly..nn agree with you it is really an insult to any man../woman in some ccases.he is her shohar and he has the right on her,well whateevr i think this time soon she will leaave for agra.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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We all must be aware of one thing she did not push Jalal to make him fall on the ground. Jalal fell down becoz he was under the influence of liquor. She was nice with him...even she was very comfortable today with Jalal. She objected when he tried to remove her gown. It was MA who told Jalal not to listen anything is she tries to stop u.😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AbHer_neha

We all must be aware of one thing she did not push Jalal to make him fall on the ground. Jalal fell down becoz he was under the influence of liquor. She was nice with him...even she was very comfortable today with Jalal. She objected when he tried to remove her gown. It was MA who told Jalal not to listen anything is she tries to stop u.😡

yes but there was better way of handling this scene is what i am saying.
See jalal does not know that jodha did not write him love letter. As per him jodha called him to her writing a love letter hence he is there. So when she reject him it is a big insult only. There were better ways of saying "No" and clearing misunderstanding that is what i say.
She never helped him get up too. No matter how much you dislike an human if even stranger falls you help them because that is humanity. that would have made jalal anger reduce. that also not happened.
yes he was angry and wild. imagine in 21st century if your family member is angry and wild at us what we do irrespective of if they hurt you you will run to them to help them if they are hurt/fallen.
Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i was heart broken today 💔 When Jodha pushed Jalal on floor my heart beat stops ... tears rolled down my eyes ... how can she ... how dare she
Today i would Say Jodha was tooo much ... and ... i cannot see
such insult of a Mughal emperor one which is my favorite ... Jalal
Cv's this is 15th century story when a women don't even dare to look and go against her husband's sayings ... and how can Jodha push him
I cannot see Jalal in pain at all ... cannot see him crying at all🥺
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Posted: 11 years ago
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YA EVEN I NEVER EXPECTED THAT SHE WOULD PUSH JALAL.I MEAN YOU CANNOT EXPECT HER TO BEHAVE LIKE THIS WITH AN EMPEROR .THAT'S TOO BAD I MEAN SHE COULD HAVE JUST WALKED AWAY BUT INSTEAD SHE PUSHES HIM DOWN THAT'S REALLY RUDE AND REALLY DISRESPECTFUL WAY OF HER .THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT SHOWING HER AS AN ELEGANT PRINCESS BUT SHE BEHAVES LIKE AN UNEDUCATED WITH NO SENSE OF DIGNITY OR RESPECT FOR THE EMPEROR.EVEN THE REAL RAJPUT QUEEN WOULD HAVE BEHAVED 1000 TIMES BETTER THAN JODHA .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am insulted on behalf of jalal that he has a badi ammi who would gift him a dancer . And then he falls for it uses that to make jodha jealous . Srsly why are they showing jalal like this ? Does he really have nothing else to do ? They are portraying him in such a poor fashion. He is so enamored by one letter that he loses all focus. Wth . How does any mom esp in the 16th century talk about that with an emperor ? And the emperor is blushing at the thought of that. I'm so not happy with these episodes .he has to tell ma to stop worrying about his bedroom life. Yuck !! He has to be uncomfortable discussing that . Even today most men will not talk about that. Ek can write a book on how to strip an emperor of all dignity .

This track and the underlying implications are awful. The character of jalal is completely destroyed and I don't want to think of how insulting this us to Akbar . Please restore the alpha male.

Edited by Ariel - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I found the Tansen sequence insulting too. A singer comes to the court of the Emperor and does not even have the grace to bend his head slightly in acknowledgment. Instead he has the temerity to insult some Mughal musicians in the presence of the emperor.
The real Akbar would have chopped his head off right at that instant, great musician or not. You can see mughal portraits of Akbar on the throne and not one person is seen standing in front of him.
Everyone is on their knees.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sorry double post
Edited by Ariel - 11 years ago

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