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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonia_1


Coming from you, I will take it as a compliment 😆

It is a compliment!😃😳
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Today's episode definitely does not jive with what we had been seeing.
In the process it makes the track very cheap and filled with loop holes
Yeh creative team bhi na..
They carefully build a character... taking a lot of attention to details..
and then in just one episode, they manage to erase everything they so carefully built up.
I watched the Friday episode again.>What was the need for Jalaal to reassure Hamida as though he had it all covered?
Instead of prolonged repeated hugs to Ruqqu I would've appreciated him putting his senses to work.
Ruqqu is going down the drain. The manner in which she spoke to Jodha about the dressing bit was unwarranted.
Jodha was the only saving grace in the episode...
Be it the way she went to Maham, to Jalaal glaring at the guard...She didn't cry buckets after the encounter with Ruqqu instead sprung to action.
So much for waking early to watch the episode as its uploaded...
Edited by prejudiced - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Monday and Tuesday were a big disappointment...we viewers waits for Monday eagerly during weekend and CVZ show us this...!!!!
I have no problem in Jalal taking help of Jodha...they teaming up together and finding way out...i have issues with execution of track...if you see Friday,Monday and Tuesday episodes one after another you will actually find that they are not sensibly linked...


Mansi as you rytly said in your last post this track is just pure dragged melodrama...😡😡😡

Keep writing...your reviews of episode are very interesting...👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, I have a feeling that AK issue will just fizzle out in court with Jalal threatening to throw him to the mob baying for his blood and Maham , with her crocodile tears will bend Jalal to her will by simply stating that AK is penitent and to forgive his mistake. 😕
Your thoughts on this ? 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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mansi very nicely written 👍🏼, but your graceful writing also couldn't lift my mood .
I am so disappointed with today's episode, never thought jalal had actually no plan B in hand and he was gonna divorce ruku and then following his decision, all his subjects who got married way before and whose marriages violate the principle of this law have to undergo divorce session also as per his order given to atgah khan ,

what a butchering of a noble character, Had not he asked atgah khan to inform his subjects that they would have to give divorce also to their wives following his divorce and had not it been more meaningful that the people come and meet him and pleads him to withdraw the law or his decision way before ruqu had been asked to place her tragic story in public??

And again ruku's harping "ek raat hume de do Jalal" and asking Jo to adorn her like jo herself, now where was she less in decking up than jo?? I didn't find..😕




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Posted: 11 years ago
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mansi very nicely written 👍🏼, but your graceful writing also couldn't lift my mood .
I am so disappointed with today's episode, never thought jalal had actually no plan B in hand and he was gonna divorce ruku and then following his decision, all his subjects who got married way before and whose marriages violate the principle of this law have to undergo divorce session also as per his order given to atgah khan ,

what a butchering of a noble character, Had not he asked atgah khan to inform his subjects that they would have to give divorce also to their wives following his divorce and had not it been more meaningful that the people come and meet him and pleads him to withdraw the law or his decision way before ruqu had been asked to place her tragic story in public??

And again ruku's harping "ek raat hume de do Jalal" and asking Jo to adorn her like jo herself, now where was she less in decking up than jo?? I didn't find..😕}}}}}}

Pallavi, there are a lot of us here who feel the same , i am not sure if the C.V's actually view the episodes they air , like Anu mentioned in one of the posts here that on friday jalal was so full of confidence that we all could see through the situation in a day or two but alas !!!! that was not to be ...

and yet again , BIGGEST LOOP HOLE as mentioned by you is what was jalal doing today , the whole day i mean , did he not attend court or diwan-e-aam where people would have put forward their views , atleast the courtiers in his court who were getting affected should have met up with him. It would have more sense rather than him katofying chakkar of rukku's hojra all the time. They both were behaving like sissy's , and when the episode started , i was like THUD ( with a hand finding its way to my forehead ) , not again...

I liked jodha ka suggestion and her behavior today , atleast somebody saved the day but i would have liked jalal to pick on the hint tht jodha had already given him and at the same time i would have wanted jodha to re-iterate that she trusted shenshah's decision and brought the same point forward to ruqu too and asked her to have trust in her best friend at least if not the shenshah ... that would have been perfect ...

Wat was shown today was like jalal coming out of influence of Ma and ruqu and getting driven towards jodha and salima , what's the difference ?? , helping someone does not always mean you have to take charge of other person's life and decisions , if C.V's think so them iam sorry they are wrong ... sometime taking a back seat and trusting someone also pays dividend ...

Today's jalal and last week's (friday i mean) jalal were standing at opposite ends , and even if C.V's wanted to go this way , they should have shown jalal's self talk saying that his plan is going kapoot and he needs help ... I am so angry with the C.V's , they are just serving us with anything that is coming to their stale minds as of now ... they fail to understand the need for the episodes to connect , all they seem to be concerned about is the TRP and are thus making FOOL of the naive audience that watches JA but they need to understand that they cannot fool people for long like this because with media and internet in place it becomes easy to look up information of the historical personalities and also to express if something is not in place ... I so wish C.V.'s visit the forum and have a look at how bad their dish tasted today .

With no clear conclusion to each and every track that is being aired i fail to see a love story brewing ... sorry to say i feel ruqlal is couple with their own flaws and jodha more like jalal's elder sister and i know i had not signed up for this 😡

Kashi



Edited by ginco - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very nicely articulated post.

Many of you seem to be disliking the fact that CVs showed Jalal as a weak, he was undecided and did not have a plan in place before announcing divorce yesterday.

I truly accept the fact - but this is only one side of the coin isnt it.? I have told this a few times here. Remember that Jalal is still a young guy trying to find his foothold on the kingdom, to make independent decisions, trying to keep mom and Maham at bay.

He lost his most trusted Khan Baba to consipiracy. He is aware of lots of spin going on behind his back. But, he cannot take action without concrete proof.

He does not have his Emperor dad to guide him and make him see right and wrong. Obviously... he will make mistakes and rise from them. He trusts his khas-begums... so he went along with it.

Thats how I see it... not as a weakling. Ofcourse, I agree that Ekta and her CVs love to portray their hero weak, which I hope is not the case here as its a historical fiction and Akbar was a winner in his own right.

Viji
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Posted: 11 years ago
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"But it seems Jalal and all of us missed out one key point: that the public doesn't know WHY all this had to happen! They don't see the reason behind the new law and hence all they see is that Jalal has brought a new law whimsically and applied it to himself to now force them to follow suit! So we now have a complication created by insufficient public communication! "

"The public are not aware that all this fuss about the new law became necessary because Adham insisted on coercing a child-bride into submission to marry him. The public did not know that this was what forced Jalal to ban child-marriages and create the new liberal law. The public does not know that Adham then challenged Jalal to apply the law retrospectively to himself. And the public do not know that this is the reason why the whole kingdom is also now forced to follow Jalal's example. "
1.But why did it have to happen? The public knowing it or not knowing it is another issue. The very back-application of the law was unwarranted.
2.Wasn't it enough if Jalal had just said that the law is applicable henceforth? None of this trouble would have come up.
3.What was the need to buckle in when Adham threw the challenge? To believe that Jalal buckles under pressure is unbelievable.
4.Wasn't it enough to say that he comes under law and will not marry nabaaliks hereafter which he already did?
5.How can a king of Akbar's calibre be shown to decide without thinking of the consequences? Isn't it diametrically opposite to the Jalal we've been shown so far?
6.What was his plan that didn't work out?
7. When most of the forum-wasis at one go guessed that such a retro application of law would disrupt families, couldn't AKBAR do it?
8.That he was caught by events and was helpless is fine, but why were the events needed? Just to please the AK scum? Wont the public ask even if Aadham Khan was the reason behind retro application of the law as threw the challenge, why did Shahenshah have to accept?
9.Was disrupting the lives of thousands of girls across the country worth saving one Tasneem by retrospective application of the law? Didn't the usually brilliant Jalal know that?
10. Why is Jalal shown such a dunce today. He may not be good at public relations but certainly he is no fool to making and application and effects of laws! To say he didn't expect such a reaction... what else did he expect? another collection to give him dua?
IS THIS THE JALAL WE HAVE KNOWN OR HIS STUPID FOOLISH ALTER EGO?
Fine, Jodha will get a golden halo to match her joda and jewellery. This could be guessed as the only reason and logic behind the vamoosing of Jalal's brains in the matter.
Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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awesome analysis di...🤗
i am very disappointed...i can't believe that jallu was ready to divorce ruku...and he did not have any backup plan till jodha bring him out of the mess...the cvs totally mess up this track...and i am thankful...at last its ending...they really made jallu a dumb emperor...

i didn't even bother to watch the whole epi...mom was watching and i was listening to the dialogues while checking my mails in my ipad...in my room...since 2 days...i have been only listening to dialogues rather than watching the scenes...it was a grand torture...

i want to assume this track never existed...i want to isolate all the Ruqlal eternal love saga...and just make assume that jallu has issue a new law to ban child marriage...and jodha have helped him...the public punished adham...the eternal love saga...accusation...allegations...doesn't exist for me...
Edited by Mages - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijisridhar

Very nicely articulated post.

Many of you seem to be disliking the fact that CVs showed Jalal as a weak, he was undecided and did not have a plan in place before announcing divorce yesterday.

I truly accept the fact - but this is only one side of the coin isnt it.? I have told this a few times here. Remember that Jalal is still a young guy trying to find his foothold on the kingdom, to make independent decisions, trying to keep mom and Maham at bay.

He lost his most trusted Khan Baba to consipiracy. He is aware of lots of spin going on behind his back. But, he cannot take action without concrete proof.

He does not have his Emperor dad to guide him and make him see right and wrong. Obviously... he will make mistakes and rise from them. He trusts his khas-begums... so he went along with it.

Thats how I see it... not as a weakling. Ofcourse, I agree that Ekta and her CVs love to portray their hero weak, which I hope is not the case here as its a historical fiction and Akbar was a winner in his own right.

Viji

Khan Baba left Akbar when Akbar was 18/19. Akbar had functioned on his own since then and captured central india, malwa, Bihar, gondwana, mewar,ajmer,nagor and much more by his military acumen, brute force, diplomacy and extreme astuteness. He established the Mughal sultanate as one of the most powerful ones by the time he was this 21/22. Not only in terms of power, but commerce and organisation as well.
It is hard to accept that it is natural that he makes mistakes on such a flimsy retro-application of law and needs his begums to pull him out of the hole. To show him so unplanned and flummoxed and incapable of foreseeing consequences which even his courtiers immediately guessed is an insult to his memories. His begums might have positively influenced his outlook. But to show him such a thoughtless dimwit who is save by his begum's idea is tooo much.
It is AKBAR we are talking, about and this is an important reform he drafted and enforced. To underrate his contribution in the success of the reform is mockery.
All in the name of entertainment.

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