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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: skanda12

That is what we would all choose Ela, but the truth is that even in 2013 there are women who get beaten rather than leave the marriage and be independent! I know of somebody in my own extended family who is still preferring to undergo ill-treatment than self-respect!
I guess its some combination of politico-social reasons as well as the women's own psychological make up - plus of course her priorities (or lack of them) in life!


Exactly. Think of the 16th century and not the 21st. Even in 21st century we aren't short of such examples.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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but the truth is that BB would not have faced any of this hardship...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ann2012


Exactly. Think of the 16th century and not the 21st. Even in 21st century we aren't short of such examples.

Previously I used to think that if women did not have education and a dependable source of income etc that could be the reason why they are hanging onto husbands who beat them to pulp, but this case I am referring to in my own family, the lady is highly educated and completely comfortable financially in her own job as a Senior manager of a multinational! And still she gets beaten and still she continues with the marriage. can you understand this? I can't at all!
So it depends on the women more than the circumstances. We can argue that maybe our outlook is too modern and "in those days" there was a too difficult a life for women and especially widows. As Ela says, the life of a royal and esp. the sister of the emperor is expected to be at least better-cushioned than for most ordinary women. But still ... if you just subtract the circumstances from the equation, there is nothing to separate the women then and the women now if the woman herself is unwilling to walk out of the marriage and choose the hard option of living on her own steam and prefers the soft option of living in the shadow of the man, whatever his cruelty!
It depends more on the woman and her mental makeup and not so much on the circumstances, eventually. Circumstances can be about 20% of the whole equation. 80% is still the attitude and priorities of the women whether in the 16th century or the current century!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Previously I used to think that if women did not have education and a dependable source of income etc that could be the reason why they are hanging onto husbands who beat them to pulp, but this case I am referring to in my own family, the lady is highly educated and completely comfortable financially in her own job as a Senior manager of a multinational! And still she gets beaten and still she continues with the marriage. can you understand this? I can't at all!
So it depends on the women more than the circumstances. We can argue that maybe our outlook is too modern and "in those days" there was a too difficult a life for women and especially widows. As Ela says, the life of a royal and esp. the sister of the emperor is expected to be at least better-cushioned than for most ordinary women. But still ... if you just subtract the circumstances from the equation, there is nothing to separate the women then and the women now if the woman herself is unwilling to walk out of the marriage and choose the hard option of living on her own steam and prefers the soft option of living in the shadow of the man, whatever his cruelty!
It depends more on the woman and her mental makeup and not so much on the circumstances, eventually. Circumstances can be about 20% of the whole equation. 80% is still the attitude and priorities of the women whether in the 16th century or the current century!

👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Previously I used to think that if women did not have education and a dependable source of income etc that could be the reason why they are hanging onto husbands who beat them to pulp, but this case I am referring to in my own family, the lady is highly educated and completely comfortable financially in her own job as a Senior manager of a multinational! And still she gets beaten and still she continues with the marriage. can you understand this? I can't at all!
So it depends on the women more than the circumstances. We can argue that maybe our outlook is too modern and "in those days" there was a too difficult a life for women and especially widows. As Ela says, the life of a royal and esp. the sister of the emperor is expected to be at least better-cushioned than for most ordinary women. But still ... if you just subtract the circumstances from the equation, there is nothing to separate the women then and the women now if the woman herself is unwilling to walk out of the marriage and choose the hard option of living on her own steam and prefers the soft option of living in the shadow of the man, whatever his cruelty!
It depends more on the woman and her mental makeup and not so much on the circumstances, eventually. Circumstances can be about 20% of the whole equation. 80% is still the attitude and priorities of the women whether in the 16th century or the current century!


👏👏 well said Mansi...awesome...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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have been reading all ur posts.till date..

they r awesome...

the biggest thing.::
u analyze every event from a positive frame of mind..😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

have been reading all ur posts.till date..

they r awesome...

the biggest thing.::
u analyze every event from a positive frame of mind..😊

Thanks so much! Sangeetha has just given me links to your posts as well on the history of the whole story, which I loved as well!
Honestly, I wanted a balanced perspective from the historical point of view which I got from your work and Sangeetha's. Thanks for that!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Thanks so much! Sangeetha has just given me links to your posts as well on the history of the whole story, which I loved as well!
Honestly, I wanted a balanced perspective from the historical point of view which I got from your work and Sangeetha's. Thanks for that!



😊
really relieved to know..
that people believe what i, sangeeta & kamal mam, have been posting is true..
(though, still v hv ppl in majority who reject it.😊)

Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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mansi It was obvious from today's episode that BB is not helping Jodha but trying to defame her...I am sure that those soldiers were sent by her to murder the doc...She is no bechaari woman and she is not hesitating to commit murder to fulfill her objective...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi Mansi,. good , u raised the issue. even i was wondering abt the outcome. even i had few questions in my mind. will start one by one.

logically only Jalal should know what hap that night. but ok, MA and Moti assumed, something happened. first Jodha believes them then she believes Jalal. then the fake pregnancy comes and both suspect eachother. now the thing is, how Shareef knows abt the night. and how can he use pregnancy to his benefit?

see Resham has heard Kwaja shera's talks to jalal. may be she has told AK and shareef. so just like MA , they too assumed, Jalal consumated his marriage with Jodha. but if Shareef is planning pregnancy issue based on that night , what he will gain? what i feel, if shareef is behind all this , then this case will be shown as slow poisoning, and not pregnancy.

abt BB, like u have said that she knows abt Shareef's evil plans, and so to stop him she might have played the preg card. but for how many days. max in three months time the truth can come out, even if Jalal is not after finding out the truth. so what after that? is BB so evil that she would let Kwaja shera die, for no crime of hers? coz BB must be aware that once Jalal knows that KS has done wrong diagnosis , he will kill KS.

at least before this track, BB was not shown evil minded or brainless. rather she was loving and caring. so can't she see, the way Jodha is sufferung, that she will try to continue with her plans?

i m not happy with BB shown as the one behind all these these things. i think even this news can be a spoiler. else, if she is shown as culprit, only one justification she can give to Jalal : that she did it to take revenge from Jodha , as she felt Jodha has insulted Shareef at Amer, and so she wanted to humiliate Jodha. no other explanation, from BB will convince Jalal to spare her.

anyway, if i can think something diff, will let u know. else, let's enjoy this whole stupid blooper...


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