So, am I the only one who liked 13th Nov epi? A diff view! - Page 10

Originally posted by: deejagi

The way jalal was clunching his fist with a handfull of his Sherwani to get a control on his boiling rage during the Kawali,

Yup it was well shot! I noticed that bit too

Even if there was some love (prem) in their heart for each other, it would have had a natural death the moment they heard about her pregnancy.

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The word TRUST had no place in this scenario as even a mother will not trust her daughter if a doctor declares her as pregnant.

I know...that's why I don't understand why members are confused why Jalal or Jodha are not trusting each other😕

Trust factor doesn't arise at the moment as the pregnancy was declared by a known hakim (if she is one) who had 20 years of great experience in analysing pregnancy... If it was a case of theft or murder, one acts on the trust but not when it is about the conduct.

Conduct is also very very difficult to prove...

It could be either Bakshi Bano for the fear of her husband or it could be Javedha who would have been made fool of by Adham by cajoling her that with that medicine

Javedha...nahin yaar😭 I love Javedha

No, Jodha will not go back to Amer for sure as she has been clearly told by her mother after MC track that, she is not welcomed as a refugee... so, if she choose to stay away from Agra, she might go to Matura, the place of her beloved god Kanha where she might look for some peace.

😭 Jodha ko Meera Bai bana diya

Even if Jalal prove her innocent, it is not so easy to come out of your missery of the fact that her own husband suspected her charecter. So it might take months if not years (in real sense not with so many episodes) for Jodha to come out of that hurt and to collect her heart and soul.

You're right...also I hope Jodha's melting and transition slow and steady...i.e. not dragging with too many days of ghrina...and yet, not one day hatred and next day love sort of screenplay either!😕

Her future pregnancy will for sure kindle all the memories of her current agony

That's true...only loved ones can cure that pain!

Originally posted by: abhi786

Lashy even though the episode is sad and the track is streching, the episode was good.

You're right - as in a few tit-bits of it were good...

JJ faceoff is so good..

JJ face-offs are ALWAYS good..keeps the interest up!😃

You can see jodha broke down with mothi and angry by throwing the fruits plate and cursing herself hating the day she got married with him.

I felt very bad for her in that scene...😭

Maham, was quick the use the situation according to her motive only to "shame Jodha" in public. So the suspence started with someone mixing in the milk. Salima is a sweetheart heart, testing the milk by drinking herself.

Salima a sweetheart, Maham shrewd and mystery intriguing!

I think tommorw HB will say Jodha to leave agra, while she is ready to leave Salima may help and jalaal may stop side with jodha. I want jodha to stop talking to anyone, not to HB.. I know HB was right, but atleast try to have another check-up to confirm..

Same here...

I think if the culprit is Shariff, may be we will come to know the Durg truth also, which will shake Jalaal much more.

I think the culprit is Shareef too ...

apparently, in history Shareef was pardoned by Akbar thrice after which he was disposed off..when Akbar became fed up of his misdeeds😊

Originally posted by: deejagi

Even I liked it despite having both teh leads in agony. The way they emoted themselves and carried themselves through out the celebration was wonderful (both as royal couple and as the actors)

The way jalal was clunching his fist with a handfull of his Sherwani to get a control on his boiling rage during the Kawali, I was fearing that he might scream Bus, and hoping against my hopes that let him control himself atleast through teh celebration... The way 2 men were standing in front of him with Danda's in hand looked like preventing him from getting up...

Even if there was some love (prem) in their heart for each other, it would have had a natural death the moment they heard about her pregnancy.

The word TRUST had no place in this scenario as even a mother will not trust her daughter if a doctor declares her as pregnant.

Jalal knows that he had never slept with her and if she is pregnant then it had to be with someone else as a lady can't be pregnant without a man (not by drinking some herbs or with some prayers)... So he is right with his suspecion but...

Jodha knew very well that she was a virgin till that fateful night and she is not aware of anything from that night since she was unconcious and if at all she is Pregnant, then it has to be the result of the stormy noght which brought storm in her relation and by her own husband who had been the custodian of her on that night. So she is right with her accusization, but...

Trust factor doesn't arise at the moment as the pregnancy was declared by a known hakim (if she is one) who had 20 years of great experience in analysing pregnancy... Only if she had said that she suspects pregnancy, they would have tried to look for some proof to prove the theory wrong. Both would have been thought about the possibilities of mis diagnosis and would have looked profs to save the other but here they have no reason to not to believe the lady doctor...so

If it was a case of theft or murder, one acts on the trust but not when it is about the conduct.

It could be either Bakshi Bano for the fear of her husband or it could be Javedha who would have been made fool of by Adham by cajoling her that with that medicine, Jodha will become mother and you will be praised for your efforts or omwthing in that line...The way the lady, who hit her forehead looked more like Javedha than Bakshi Banu...

No, Jodha will not go back to Amer for sure as she has been clearly told by her mother after MC track that, she is not welcomed as a refugee... so, if she choose to stay away from Agra, she might go to Matura, the place of her beloved god Kanha where she might look for some peace.

Even if Jalal prove her innocent, it is not so easy to come out of your missery of the fact that her own husband suspected her charecter. So it might take months if not years (in real sense not with so many episodes) for Jodha to come out of that hurt and to collect her heart and soul.

A word Sorry can never bring a dead person alive ... You stab a person after that if you say it was a mistake and you never inetnded to hurt fellow or if you say you were too angry to realise what you did or said, that doesn't erase the hurt or clear the wound mark. The pain may reduce or subsided but the mARk left by that wound is for the life time if not erased by cosmetic surgery and that also will cause some more pain to some other part of your body. (like in this case, her future pregnancy will for sure kindle all the memories of her current agony)

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Is a man's character and honour not equally sacrosanct? Jodha condemns Jalal and trashes his honour savagely, and she will be proved wrong there too. But when she says later that she had good reasons for attacking him, that will provide closure for Jalal? Why this double standard favouring the woman?

I would want both of them to agree that each was justified in what he/she said to the other, thank Kanha/Allah that they came out of it intact, and treat it as a lesson for BOTH of them.

NOT have Jalal feel guilty while Jodha starts swanning it around as before and being as rude and uppity to him as is her wont (her manners were atrocious when he brings her her birthday gift).

Originally posted by: lashy

One would have expected this more from Jodha than from Jalal. She has had repeated proof of Jalal's capacity for self restraint, not just on the road to Ajmer, but day after day after day in Amer itself. She must have realized that none of this would have happened if Jalal had been a standard issue husband who claims his conjugal rights at once, and she, as his wife, would be expected to comply.

Then there was his epiphany at Ajmer, and again at the Kali temple, where Jodha herself perceived his capacity for absorption in the Divine.There are the persistent efforts Jalal has made recently to woo her, to take her likes and dislikes into account, and this with rare perceptiveness and sensitivity: the revelation about her lost payal, the exquisitely chosen gift for her.

And above all, his readiness to abandon his throne and his people to keep his promise to her (it is revealing that despite her being a princess born and raised to place a king's rajadharma first always, she does not even think of this, the biggest sacrifice that he is ready to make for her sake, but instead harps only on his standing up to the maulvis).

Any normal woman would taken note of all this, drawn her own conclusions, and developed some rational faith in him. She would not accept so readily that such a man could suddenly lapse so badly.

For Jalal, the breakdown of his faith in her is easier to understand. This faith is limited to believing that though she hates him, she will not plot to kill him. As for her personal morality, all he knows is her distaste for any kind of intimacy with him. All this need not, and does not add up to blind faith in her personal virtue, and it is this lack of trust that comes thru in the Diwan-e-Am scene.

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Originally posted by: lashy

Well worded aunty..

Though I don't agree with the bit that she has more reason to trust his word than he hers (because both have their principles they stick to)..I do agree that both their reputes are being tarnished by each other...

And yes, I'm nearly certain that while Jalal will seek forgiveness for having mistrusted her, she is not going to do so...😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Is a man's character and honour not equally sacrosanct? Jodha condemns Jalal and trashes his honour savagely, and she will be proved wrong there too. But when she says later that she had good reasons for attacking him, that will provide closure for Jalal? Why this double standard favouring the woman?

I would want both of them to agree that each was justified in what he/she said to the other, thank Kanha/Allah that they came out of it intact, and treat it as a lesson for BOTH of them.

NOT have Jalal feel guilty while Jodha starts swanning it around as before and being as rude and uppity to him as is her wont (her manners were atrocious when he brings her her birthday gift).