Do you think Akbar would NOT have played such politics in his reign? - Page 8

Originally posted by: Ariel

I'm sure he will make amends in other ways. Just like Asoka changed his ways to pay for the bloodshed he caused, Jalal will find a way too. It will leave us with the same feeling we got after he went to the temple. I'm putting blind faith in his character. Hope they dont destroy him.

Edit: Lashy, late to the party, but loved your post!

edit2: What lashy said , way better than me!😆

Originally posted by: bubbles_rogue

lovely post..

Couldn't turn a blind eye to your blind comment... so you see I am not THAT blinded. Didn't know you could put a personal comment for a fictional character.

Hmm... I like Jodha because within the jaded old woman in me, still resides a young femenists. Who sees, recognizes and appreciates good woman when they see one. Jodha is a good woman. She is righteous, courageous than many in her era, is gunvaan(horse riding, sword-fighting, cooking, teerandazi, dancing(ermm...not much), etc. And so far her behavior with Ruq, MA, etc has been far more dignified, queen like than well Ruq, MA, etc can ever hope to achieve.

My dislike for Ruq stems from her brashness and though she says she is the oh so mighty mughalia Begum, she comes across very petty. If she is so mighty, she need not say it. And because she says it, it means she is not. I hope they fade out that silly character soon. She is very boring.

MA's dialog delivery has lately turned screechy and preachy (perhaps she sees ground moving beneath her feet and the edge of cliff far approaching??) But have to agree she is acting a little stupid. So she is not exactly the antagonist, I love to hate. She is not that smart anymore. Burning Daadisa's gift..c'mmon, grow up ol oman. Act your age. It was a little like me throwing my little daughter's hand drawn card to get back at her for throwing my cooked food in dustbin! Huh. And it is expected of Jodha to understand this gesture and the folly of her gesture from this ...???

And though people say Jodha acts like a ganwaar' woman(I could have used the exact and better English word from one of the very well worded post on this forum but I'm too scared to pick a fight), I find her no less sensible and well behaved than any other women of Agra. Perhaps HB, Salima? But then again people dislike HB for liking Jodha? I guess HB is only someone who recognizes good.

I am not going to go into the details of her other mistakes because those were blunders. But blunders do not make a good person bad. She does not know shrewdness because unlike Jalal, her uncle had not put her in line of fire at toddler age! She has not been brought up by cruel vicious people like MA and BK! She has not seen fetus killing women infesting her residence. I am pretty sure if she had been brought up by such people she'd be a better strategist than Jalal himself. For Jalal has not learnt the lessons of his life. For a man brought up in his kind of circumstances, it's very easy to see that Sharif can harbor a grudge against Ameris and Jodha cause of the past-won-and-lost land? How can he not be skeptical of people around and make sense of the horrors surrounding him? Jodha looks pretty black and white. So a benefit of doubt is certainly required. He comes across foolish by not giving her that. He does not tie the incidents of Gwalior Hakim reaching late to attend him(courtesy the kaput attack) ,attacks just outside Amer, Hawai incident. With same breath we can chide Jodha and Jalal. ... I have plenty of reasons to find Jalal silly just as many have to find Jodha silly.

And no, I do take seriously MA's advice that, swimming against the current could lead to drowning. But I do not minding drowning in IF...LOL

But I guess this was long coming from me and blind word triggered it.

Originally posted by: riyya6

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Originally posted by: minnie2308

Couldn't turn a blind eye to your blind comment... so you see I am not THAT blinded. Didn't know you could put a personal comment for a fictional character.

And no, I do take seriously MA's advice that, swimming against the current could lead to drowning. But I do not minding drowning in IF...LOL

But I guess this was long coming from me and blind word triggered it.

It was only a light-hearted comment Minoo...you seem to have really taken it to heart...😕

I didn't think it anything beyond a mild tease when I said you're 'blinded' by Jo's love 🤔 but, I don't think you liked it...

Also, its not me alone, I don't think most would call Jo shrewd...I have admired and praised her good qualities too...

But, I realize you're very attached to this character so I shall refrain henceforth from expressing anything about Jo in my replies to you - since, a character that's nothing beyond a part of a fictional tale being cooked up by Ekta, I wouldn't dare annoy a real-life friend of mine...😃

Originally posted by: lashy

It was only a light-hearted comment Minoo...you seem to have really taken it to heart...😕

I didn't think it anything beyond a mild tease when I said you're 'blinded' by Jo's love 🤔 but, I don't think you liked it...

Also, its not me alone, I don't think most would call Jo shrewd...I have admired and praised her good qualities too...

But, I realize you're very attached to this character so I shall refrain henceforth from expressing anything about Jo in my replies to you - since, a character that's nothing beyond a part of a fictional tale being cooked up by Ekta, I wouldn't dare annoy a real-life friend of mine...😃

Originally posted by: lashy

Right or wrong

Good or bad

This is politics!

There is a saying that there is no villain or Hero in politics - only success and failure! The villain in this serial is not AK, Sharifu or MA. The villain in this serial is the backdrop - the backdrop of politics! 😛

Shehenshah

Once you're trying to keep half of India and many other countries with people of different religions and classes under your control - you cannot achieve that without some amount of scheming! Thankfully, they haven't shown Jalal as pristinely innocent (like in the movie). It would be quite unrealistic! Shehenshah Akbar was not Lord Ram or Raja Harishchandra. He was a conqueror who knew how to keep what he conquered! Now, this could NOT have been sustained without the use of shrewdness - much like the shrewdness that Chanakya used to guide Chandragupta Maurya (Yes situations were different, but the principles similar!)

He tried being fair to people who were fair and wasn't deliberately unfair to people who were unfair. However he wasn't fair to them either!😛

Now, he doesn't know that the Dawalgarh people have also been beguiled by Shareef and when he does come to know, I would like to see how he'd tackle the situation. But, till then I'm going to sit back and enjoy this joy ride!

Being the Shehenshah he cannot afford to let people twist his arm/walk over him. I'm glad they showed that he didn't take being 'cornered' lightly [Be it the emotional cornering by his sweet Begum or the blackmails by Achal]! He fended it all off - with a mischievous wink and a shrewd ploy.

Begum

Coming to Jodha - She tried getting to solve the matter in the right manner. When it didn't work, she used a manner which was not entirely wrong - but, not transparent either. Did it work? Yes it did. Instead of sticking to being the 'holier than thou' person that female leads are expected to be today, she played it smart and it did the trick! Go lady - this is the kind of person I'd like to see pitted against our semi-villanish lead! A lady who can use her wit, adopt to the situation, preserve her dignity and yet get her way (for a positive cause, of course)!

I absolutely loved Jodha Begum today!

I absolutely loved Shehenshah Jalal today!

No storm was raised. They both used tact! They both achieved their goals. He kept Achal Singh at bay and she reduced MA to a silent watcher!

The scenes were not an ode to 'How to be a righteous ruler and empress'

The scenes played out were an ode to 'How to be a successful ruler and empress'

Go Jalal...Go Jodha!

Gotta love this serial! What a treat to watch such devilish politics play out by such enticingly good-looking leads!

So entertaining and yet so realistic!

I'm sure there's going to be fireworks when the truth comes out, but hey its Diwali...we shall stand back and watch - wouldn't we?😛

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Aunty I'm worried too... wondering how jalal will fix it, me, ela di and sharddha di have discussed this