Jodha Akbar 84: Mischief abounding - Page 2

Happy Dussehraa, to you, your Sasha & your mother. 😊

Firstly Aunty.. I am soo happy to read your analysis 🤗

first of all thanks for makin the post i was so elated to see the pm

Thank you for the analysis Aunty!

Jodha and Jalal: I'm letting myself believe that they don't know how to express themselves to each other, post attack, and they reverted back to their old ways with the addition of Jalal being more mischievous and Jodha's blood pressure rising for no reason.

As for what will happen in Amer, I've seen plenty of spoilers and predictions. I think it's probably best to see what actually happens. So far, most of my expectations have gone down the drain so I'm trying not to have any this time and enjoy the story for what it is, not what it could be.

Wohooo superb analysis 👍🏼

thanks for the pm, it was a delight reading your take on the episode, i do agree with most of ur points..i too felt that the cvz should have given some better dialogues to jodha when she encountered jalal for the first time after his recovery..but it was sheer delight to watch mischievous jalal and the way rajat delivered the dialogues was mesmerizing indeed👏..and we all know now that ruk is doobta suraj and jodha will be his begum-e-khaas! i also agree we should go with the flow and enjoy the magic of this amazing pair that will burn our screens with their crackling chemistry and spicy nok jhonk, without getting deep into the logistics of it!

pl keep writing and ur posts will be on my list from now on to read..looking forward to more analysis to come as ur time permits and take care!

Thank you so much aunty for not leaving us once again. But, at same time, I understand what you mean so you may write an analysis only when you feel like writing one and not because you feel forced to. We will appreciate it whatever and whenever you can afford to give us your fabulous and meaningful analysis. My comments are in red.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

nuff said. Let us come to the collection of scenes of which Episode 84 consisted. Throughout, what struck me was how adept Jalal was becoming, astonishing in such an alpha male who claims he finds it difficult to understand his begums, in handling all the very different women in his life, Mahaam included. And he does this not by blunt commands, but by finessing his equation with each expertly, so as not to bruise the relationship seriously, and if possible at all, while still getting his own way and disregarding what each wants. If this means that he has to dish out plausible, not lies, but half-truths, who shall blame him? Even an emperor seeks, like any other male of the species, to avoid domestic discord!- This is one of the many qualties that I love about him.

Jalal-Ruqaiya 1 & 2:

As for Ruqaiya, however jealous she might become of Jodha as matters develop, she would not, I believe, ever stoop to the depths that would cut Jalal off from her. Her antagonism towards Jodha, rooted in jealousy, would not be a reason for Jalal to break up with his childhood friend; he would merely be amused and even pleased.-

Morever, however the script might modify history, it cannot alter it so drastically as to reduce Akbar's chief Empress to a pathetic has been. - As much as I do not like to see Ruqiya, I have to agree with you here. I don't know how CVS are going to handle Ruq-Jalal-Jodha. I am looking forward to see how they will be able to pull of "true/eternal love between Jodha& Jalal and at same time handle Jalal and Ruqaiya's relationship.

For us to shrink in alarm at the last point is as unwarranted - for that is meant only for Ruqaiya's consumption - as for us to assume that the entire siyasati rationale is just a smokescreen to hide Jalal's real reason, to get opportunities to spend time in Amer, as up close and personal as can be managed, with Jodha.

We should not forget that Jalal is an emperor, and the expansion and strengthening of his empire would, for him, come first, always and every time, and this no matter what he feels, or does not feel, for Jodha. This is as it should be, for I for one would hate to see Jalal reduced to a pathetic lover sighing verses to his mistress' eyebrow', as, who else, Shakespeare would put it.

However, the siyasati reasons are not the whole truth either. Jalal knows his Gatti, and banks on her believing his half truth to be the whole truth, because she believes what she wants to believe.

The whole spiel about hum mohabat karte hain odha begum se is also part of the testing of the waters. But when he turns back after that deliberately exaggerated confession (not fake, be it noted; but as soon as he got to unke deewane, unke ghulam, I knew it was a con, for never would Jalal become any woman's ghulam, not even of the love of his life!), and sees the frozen shock and despair in Ruqaiya's eyes, Jalal knows that he has gone too far and has to retreat, for he has no notion of wrecking his bond with her. Not for anything, least of all for the uncertain prospects that lie ahead with Jodha.- OMG, r u saying that it was not fake but real confession and that he has really fallen in love with Jodha and is now masking it.But, isn't it too soon? His facial expressions did show it but then he turned it into a joke and I did not take it seriously because I was like it is too soon but then I was like why would he say that suddenly? When he said hum mohabat karte hain Jodha begum se, then why does he keep denying he does not have dil (which is little annoying and senseless).

When he asks her if she is not coming to Amer with them, he might have assumed, knowing Ruqaiya, that she would refuse. But he could not have been sure, so why does he broach it at all? Methinks it was just more of mischief, for I am sure he does not doubt his ability to juggle both these balls in the air while at Amer and never drop either!

Jalal-Jodha : 1/2 & 1:

Then came the Scene 1, which of course upset all my calculations. For the first 30 seconds, as Jodha neither enquired after Jalal's health, nor sought to apologise for the narnaal fiasco, nor even thanked him for arranging Sukanya's alliance, but launched into a broadside against his taking aapke parivaar ko (in which she obviously does not include herself) to Amer, I was all at sea.- I defended Jodha in you r last post. But, I was so annoyed that she did not even have maaners to apologize or ask for his health and even thank him. Even if she smelt a foul blay behind sukany's marriage. She could have said something like, "waise hame lagta hain ke iske picche bhi koi aapka swarth hoga, magar phir bhi hum aapko dhanyawad kehna chahenege, kyon ki sach yehi hai ki aapne rishta ki baat ki"

Then I switched to my earlier resolution, abandoned any attempt to understand the discontinuity in Jodha's behaviour, and simply went with the flow. It was a wise choice, for what followed was pure delight.

Rajat's Jalal was fabulous from start to finish. He never missed an opening to trip up his angry, flustered Jodha Begum. He was brimming over with mischief - it was there in every glance of his, in the teasing tones in his voice, in the mocking lines after he has extracted a reluctant and qualified thank you from her: Bura chaho to gussa karti hain, achcha chaho to gussa karti hain. Yeh aapka hunar paidayeshi hai, ya phir aapne isme taaleem haasil ki hai?

And much more in the same vein, about baaghins and about the mortal danger to him from Jodha's assorted deadly weaponry, all delivered with the same lightness of touch, the same effortless mastery of flirtatious leg pulling, while his eyes, gleaming with ill-suppressed merriment as they never left her fuming face, sought to unsettle the Amer ki Mirchi even more.- I loved Jalal in this scene (actually enjoy watching him all the scenes except when he is furious).

I was very sorry to see Jodha play right into his hands, and make a complete, pokered-up, ungracious fool of herself by the time she reacts to his last sally, about his being now ready to eat her mirchiwala khana, by turning her back on him and stomping off in a huff. She leaves Jalal, predictably, chortling in glee with his companion in the mirror.

Her problem is that she is utterly devoid of a sense of humour. If she had only laughed out loud at his description of her phatne ke liye tayyaar top jaisa gussa, shamsheer se bhi tez zabaan, and all the rest, and declared

Apitu hum to Amer ki beti hain, Shahenshah, Amer ki mirchi jaisi teekhi. Hum jaise bhi hain,aapko to isise santrusht rahan padega! Humein apne aap mein kuch bhi parivartan laaneki koyi bhi ichcha nahin hai. Aap to is janam mein to kya, agle cheh janam ke liye hamare isi kaaya aur isi pravrutti se bandhe rahenge. Kya karenge aap, Shahenshah? , he would have been totally stumped, and might have started laughing with her, not at her.- I love it when you not only points out a problem but also gives the solution, in this case, give a nice fitting dialogue.👏👏

Similarly, if she had thanked him warmly for arranging Sukanya's marriage, and told him how sorry she was about her having put him in such mortal danger without at all meaning to do so, he would have been disarmed.

But no, she has to go wandering into the morass of accusing him of having ulterior motives in arranging Sukanya's marriage, which was ungracious, to say the least. From there to insisting that he never does anything without the hope of gaining something else, is but a step, as she plays further into his hands.

I felt like shaking some sense into her head. Not that it would have helped, and so finally she stormed off, looking nothing like the baaghin he was comparing her to, and more like an angry kitten frustrated at not having been able to sharpen her claws on her tormentor.

In all this relentless, but not malicious teasing, for that is what it was, one revealing point has to be noted.

When Jodha asks, angrily, whether he had no faith in Amer or her Bapusa's ability to ensure his safety, Jalal answers her seriously and reassuringly, stressing his conviction that her brothers would be ready to do anything, including giving up their lives if necessary, to protect him. A girl with a bit more of perceptiveness would have noted the sudden change of tone and of content, from being frivolous towards her to admiration and respect for her family, and reacted accordingly.

We might them have had the first ever civilized conversation between them. But Jodha made sure that this was not to be.

Hope belied: I suppose we are now going to be treated to every corny trick in the panoply of romantic pulp fiction after Jalal and Jodha land up in Amer. It will all bore me stiff. So much for my vain hopes for Jalal and Jodha (please bear with this repetition), of

seeing mutual caring and affection develop, slowly but surely. Of an edgy friendship morphing, insensibly, into love, with all its yearnings, its restlessness in the absence of the loved one, the misunderstandings, the jealousies, the protectiveness and the possessiveness, and beneath it all, the undercurrent of a hidden sensuality.- As much as I love romance, I do agree with you here. I always like to see gradual love which is more meaningful and heartfelt. I do believe there should be some spark or attraction of some kind which I have seen from Jalal but not yet from Jodha. I believe they might show some corny tricks because they want Jodha to feel something may be an attraction or something especially now when she knows he has "dil".

Of a Jodha whose pride in her magnificent husband would make her say, as Cleopatra once said to Julius Caesar : "But for you, the world is full of little men".

What a fall this is going to be, my friends (apologies to Mark Antony)!

There is only one thing I am looking forward to, and that is Dadisaa getting to know Jalal. I would bet anything that if she had been 50 years younger,Jalal would have flipped for her without a second thought, instead of this sulky, irascible, pokered-up female he has now landed himself with, complete with her bhashanbaazi and her tantrums😉.

Quid pro quo:I also have the idea that during the attack on Jalal, obviously in their bedchamber, by the fake Rajvanshi commissioned by Adham, it will be Jodha (who I hope is stuck with the couch this time around😉) who will save Jalal, thus squaring accounts with him. She will now have even less (if that is at all possible!) of an impulse to feel guilty about having endangered his life in the forest! 😉- I hope to see Jodha save Jalal but hopefully Ameris won't get blamed. I know Jalal knows that they can sacrifice their lives for him but you never know.

Wishing you and your families a wonderful Vijayadashami today, and a healthy, peaceful and fulfilling year ahead (if you have these three, happiness, an elusive commodity, is bound to follow).- same to you

Shyamala B.Cowsik

aunty before reading all your post... i want to thank u for this precious gift of yours...i love your wriiting...n i screamed with pleasure when i received your email for this post...

secondly...about over analysis... u r right... as ...for me the jodha n HB discussion where jodha told her ashiq MIL she just prayed for son of a mother, brother of a sister and a mere person who saved her life ...was so ridiculous...it means any person who saved her life ...we can assume should be son n brother to any 1...she would be worried same for him tooo...

but

important thing is what CV what from us to believe ... they were wanting us to see how jodha is wise n simple...

so here i m fad up too because i cannt buy these foolishness in the name of simplicity and wiseness