30th september - Jodha - Anguish, turmoil, torment! - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: sun29



at present their ego ,arrogance is what rides them both and the supposed hatred for each other ...and they want to believe that as well ...


they might have taken baby steps in the past, but any untoward incident seems to pulls them back many strides...they need to form a bond that's beyond all of it...especially seeing how a palace is always a breeding ground for jealousy, powerplay, intrigue and ego

Originally posted by: Super Kool

Lashy, lovely post...😳thank you for posting...🤗


I loved the episode...it was awesome...mainavati stumped me...she was right...every word made sense...how can you expect a happy marriage when you have done nothing to make one...??

it was followed by the ultimate realisation of being a 'failure'...a woman who failed as a daughter, princess, wife and queen...she is a wreck...when was the last time she reminded moti of her status...

A person who attempts suicide is not necessarily a weak person...suicide is often a result of a moment of weakness...that precious moment when the wrecked individual needs to be told that you gonna sail through...you are wanted and needed...no, I am not justifying suicide...just saying...emotions and failures can drive one to extremes...

Suvi each and every word you've stated above is a class apart...its beautiful beautiful beautiful...you've expressed it in such a novel way where it tugs at your heart strings and yet sounds wise!
Lovely... gal!🤗

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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: lashy


Suvi each and every word you've stated above is a class apart...its beautiful beautiful beautiful...you've expressed it in such a novel way where it tugs at your heart strings and yet sounds wise!
Lovely... gal!🤗


I am flattered...😳😳😳A compliment coming from a brilliant writer like you means a lot...thank you...🤗🤗🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago
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My opinion about today's episode. Mainavati should have requested permission to speak with her daughter alone.

She knows how hard and how much jodha
hates Jalal. She should also know her daughters stubbornness and willfulness and know that nothing good can come from her speaking about this in front of everyone. I actually thought that Jodha lost a lot today.

She has already lost her identity as a princess of amer to that of an unwanted Begum.

She lost the support that she thought she had of her family.

She lost the battle between her inner conscience of making the best of a rotten deal, hence why she wants to commit suicide.

She lost the respect, IMO , of every family member in Agra by them thinking she wants to leave her husband. Further, they all now know that Jalal doesn't want her and is okay with her leaving Agra.

She has no one, all though in todays episode I definitely agreed with her inner self saying to her that she has always been looking at Jalal wrongly. She takes everything he does and twists it, but then again I'm quite an impulsive person as well so I understand Jodhas impulsiveness and at times irresponsible behavior.

It's funny but I like the fact that Jodha is shown as human who makes errors, doesn't always behave queenly and is relatable. I know we all want 16 th century formidable queen represented who capturs Jalals heart but at this time in the story Jodha is exactly how one could expect a real life situation to be. Jodha has faults. Many faults and they are all at the forefront right now but she will have her time to shine and shine bright once the iner turmoil within her is settled. There is nothing to change about Jodha other than time will see her settle and bring forth the nobleness that is already within her seeking to come out.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54
Thanks prejudiced...😳 hey ...don't know why...but, I can't help feeling sorta odd calling you that...😆

Yayyy Shyamala aunty posted here today 🥳
Thanks for your lovely comments dear...🤗

Originally posted by: Star_girl

Amazing analysis as always, Lashy my dear. However, the tracks seem to be up and running in super speed yet again. I don't know if it bodes ill for the show. 😭


Annie my darling...back to worrying about the speed of the episodes now, are we?😛

CVs CVs CVs -> keep us on our toes!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ lashy! Yaar I am not fond of posting in large forums!😆 I have a fetish to reply to every member in likes or reply, and since this topic would be a debatable thing, I really do not want to post it and then disappear to let that guilt spin on my head! 🤣
and just for you,
the mughal court had two places for the king, Deewan-e-khaas and Deewan-e-aam! 😛
DEK: It is a discussion assembly only reserved for the Jalal and his 9 gems or Nau Ratna as you may have heard? 😊 It is simply put, a private cabin type meeting to discuss issues not meant to bring it forth to public, and also sometimes for leisure purposes! Tansen was for that mostly in those gems!😆

DEA: Aam= public. The scene where Jalal frees that kid's parents? It is for the royal govt. to announce anything to the entire public, and like a court for people seeking justice!

You should go to Agra once, and other than Taj see the Agra fort, it has these two places in there! 😳 DEK is really beautiful... it is like a 6 pathway bridge style seating balcony!

OK! so now that we discussed this episode in relation to DEK, you have another brownie to defend Jalal lolz! Tho my full sypathy to Jodha too! that feeling of abandonment is the most painful!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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that is the one in Fatehpur-Sikri... sorry for saying agra fort lol! the bridge!here also lies the biggest proof of Jalal's hindu wife- the palace of Jodha bai!😛

NOTE: Pretty sure you would know of this just doing TP lol

AND big reason i am not posting this as a topic is that all this was posted here in the beginning weeks! lol! to help all abt the mughal courts!😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

Thanks prejudiced...😳 hey ...don't know why...but, I can't help feeling sorta odd calling you that...😆

:-) Call me Anu
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: KDR81

Gr8 Sum-up dear,
But I felt very sad for her when MV said those things to her...!!😭 Ab toh "Veeru-Style Suside" attempt banta hi hai Boss ...!!🤢 Our Jodha looked fabulous today...in all the 3 avatars...!!😊 And the 3rd one seemed to be like us JA fans ...reminding her of her own prejudice and biases. 😉

Par yeh Jalaal "Mughal Sultanate ke khateer" ka ratta marna bandh kare toh achha...😡!!

And Ruqaiyya was Irritating as usual ...!!!😕

Thanks yaar.
Kyaa karein maa ka pyaar sakth hota hai...😭 par hota hai ache ke liye...
Jodha always looks fabulous no doubt about it...😳 Blue Jodha is my favourite too...😛

Ab ke liye woh sabkuch Mughal Sultanat ke khaatir hi karega... baad mein 'sirf' Jodha ke liye bhi karne lagega...😳

Originally posted by: pallavi003

awesome write up.. I actually felt bad because it was all open in the court,her mother rejected her,her husband thinks she wants to go back and yes though it was a political alliance, but still she is a human with pride and respect,and she was humiliated in the court..
What I said in vicky's post that Jodha is afraid of ruqaiyaa's words what she said her on the reception night that once jalal applies all his rights on her,she would be thrown away like a toy,same thing told by maham too..This thing is not letting her to behave like a WIFE as she doesn't want to be used only to fulfill her husband's physical needs.


Aww pallavi..don't worry she'll be fine eventually..she might think its the darkest night of her life...but how is she to know that many bright days are yet to come...😃

Yes, she can't accept him because of the terrible thing's she's been made to believe about him by other's...first impression acha nahin rahaa...

Though...having said that... I do wish over the course of her stay at Agra that she should have at least once, reflected that Jalal was not as bad as she'd feared him to be...🤔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks ashu...

Kai 🤗
my my you mirror my thoughts...every word of what you've written is just what I felt too...
I did think the episode played an important role in understanding what drove Jodha to that (still unwanted as far as I'm concerned) decision ...but, I did love her consciences talking to each other...for the first time we hear a Jodha (whichever one it was!) talk FOR the king (apart from the temple incident of course!)

Also, Mainawati had a role to play today - thankfully! Phew

About the swimming thing a few explanations have been made in another thread, so I'll not delve into that here...but, the court was a necessity seeing how the issue was semi-political...

And talk about rushing the important and dragging the uninteresting even I'm worried about too many things happening too soon!

As for precap - Me takes it you haven't seen the latest promos then...it all shows what happens...Jalal saves her and gives her a sound scolding for behaving like an idiot! 😆 The scene was shot beautifully and realistically though...😊

Again, I wouldn't think he was wasting time with Ruqs...after all, its from the harem that Jodha has been found missing..so he's waiting by in Ruq's chamber till he gets news of Jodha from his soldiers...also, he needs his opiate shot (Ruqs😉) to be able to think clearly!

Btw, Kai - I realize you seem busy...but just in case you were interested, I wrote an OS on the post-mohan scenario...me thinks you haven't come across it..have you? 😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

Omg I'm late...

@ Ela...

lashy plz tell me one thing...Why do you think Jalal went to Ruku for Jodha's missing and was Jalal more concerned for Jodha or Mughal sultant ki aan , baan and shaan?

Ok here we go...firstly Ela, he went to her - like how you or I- in our college days would have gone to our best friend if something wrong was going on in our lives...
when its matters of the court he goes to his courtiers and when its matters of the harem he goes to his advisor cum confidante Ruqs...

I know it seems like that makes him weak...but trust me...for every successful emperor there were at least a few driving forces behind them...Chandragupta Maurya had chanakya (not saying that Ruqs or his ministers are chanakya)...
without media/technology and all their knowledge being handed over or hearsay how could a king function without his advisors? Even good/successful kings are known to have had very dark stages in their lives - when the responsibility of such important decisions lay upon them the fear of making a wrong one would/could have eaten them up from inside! That's why in our Hindu scriptures many-a-powerful-king is known to have sought the help of saints/sages to solve the issues them or their ministers couldn't understand!

As for concern for Jodha - I'm not going to lie! At this stage, it was purely his regard for the Sultanat thats driving him to find her...
Let's put it this way Ela - at this point if Jalal dies, Jodha's not going to be distraught, if Jodha dies Jalal's not going to shed a tear! That's where they both stand in the serial!

Thank you very much...yes they really dont care abt each other at this point of time...

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