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Posted: 12 years ago
A lot of people are calling Jodha rude and other names but you have to look at it from her side too I mean she was slowly getting used to life in Agra and all of a sudden she gets accused of something so heinous and her brothers as well, and her husband didn't even try to once think about her goodness and investigate like he did with MA, if it wasn't for Hameeda, Jalal would've burnt them all, so after all of this how can you expect her to forget everything so easily, Jodha loves her family a lot and she had sacrificed everything to make sure they're safe but her own husband had humiliated them so badly so we must give her time, and when she was slowly moving on he gave her the option to go back which to him was out of sympathy maybe but to her it was an insult and she's very hurt and thinks that he wants to leave her, that's why she's so upset, just like Jalal had his reasons so does she, it's her turn to be rude now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
think abt it maybe she's being rude cuz she's shocked at jalaal's sweet guesture nd is afraid to show gratitude cuz she afraid Jalal may try to take advantage of her or mayb she's started developing feelings for him n trying to make it go away by constantly being rude to jalal n reminding herself how much she "hates" him 😉 look into the depth of the matter her rudeness is only covering wht she's really feeling alot girls r like this wen they don't want a guy to get the slightest hint wen they like a guy or doesn't wanna look vulnerable infront a guy trust me i've done this already nd i felt so bad 😆 but tht's the way females r well most of 'em
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chinuchinu

i don't like this jodha always doing blah blah she forgave her bapusa who got her married to jalal she understood he did all that as a king okay then y doesn't she understand all proofs were against her so jalal did that as a king wt the always saying amer amer i hate that also i don't want jodha to forgive jalal easily but always doing same these things pisses me off cvs r not careful how jodha's character is shaping up 😡😡

for jalal i love him more 😳 he is behaving mature 😳😊


She forgave her bapusa because he brought her in this world and was forced by jalal to marry her to him..What has Jalal done for her
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Posted: 12 years ago

It amazes me how easily arrogance of a man is forgotten and protest/unhappiness shown against him by the person who has undergone 'immense pain and humiliation' is questioned!
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Posted: 12 years ago
My dear Uppaas,

I could not agree with you more, and I would like to add my two bits very quickly. So I hope you will not mind it if I paraphrase below what I wrote on Vicki's thread lat e last night.

My take is far harsher than yours on Jodha but right now, I think what she deserves is a sound spanking.

"About Jodha, I think you - and you are of course far from alone in this respect - tend to romanticise her to excess, perhaps as the designated heroine. I do not see her as embodying all shades of humanity and womanhood, unless you include in this description being brattish, and overtly and publicly rude to the man who is both her husband and an emperor, and thus has to be accorded at least public respect.

Not to forget a tendency to hold forth, at the drop of a hat, about the superiority of her native culture in the most condescending and even sarcastic manner possible, like a Hyde Park soap box orator. I found her lecture on colours pompous throughout, delivered as if she was talking to an uncultured inferior being, and in parts completely meaningless.

She was also trying so hard to needle him that she lost sight of all good sense and even her royal breeding. Her apologists never tire of saying about Jodha that she never fails to maintain proper decorum towards her husband in public, no matter how she rails at him in private. Today, she threw even that to the winds.

The way is which she declared, in answer to his polite question of what was the significance of having a stall of colours, that she did not consider it necessary to tell him that, was not only extremely rude, but betrayed a total lack of breeding dismaying in a princess born. One wonders what the Shahenshah' s attendants, not to speak of her own,would have thought about such behaviour in public. Nothing flattering to Jodha, I am sure.

I was delighted that her deliberate impertinence in soiling what she thought to be his white dupatta boomeranged on her,and she fell flat on her face. I almost cheered Jalal for having tripped her up so smoothly and effectively.

The symbolism of her colouring what would have been a widow's white with pink, thus making it a sign of happiness for a wedded woman (though then it would have to be red, not pink), as it has been interpreted elsewhere, would have been perfect, except that she did not do it for that purpose. She did it to spoil something that she thought belonged to him. That she was left with something gifted to her that is now unusable seemed to be poetic justice!

To those who protest that she is doing no more to Jalal now than what he did to her during the dature ka ark phase, there are two answers to that.

One, that he has apologised for his unfairness then, and in public. He is not being given any credit for that. He should be. Not many modern husbands would do as much, if they were in a similar position of absolute power. She has been as rude herself repeatedly in the past, and still is. In fact she is going from bad to worse.

Two, that there is a distinction to be drawn between public behaviour and private behaviour. Good behaviour. especially in public, is something one owes to oneself and to one's upbringing, it need have nothing to do with the way others have behaved or behave with you. I thus have nothing against Jodha ranting at Jalal in private. But in public it is an entirely different matter, and that is what distinguishes a lady, and more so a princess, from the common run of ill-bred humanity.

So when Jodha burnt her wedding joda, after having been cautioned by her mother about the likely consequences for Amer, I felt that she was behaving like a reckless fishwife. Today I felt that she was behaving like a shrew. Royalty is taught above all never to let their self-control slip, no matter what the circumstances. Judged by those standards, Jodha is sadly wanting. She has always been so.

It seemed to me that Jalal treated her today the way an adult treats an ill-behaved and obnoxious child, with exaggerated patience and unshaken calm . Not as if he was trying to patch up an as yet non-existent relationship, but rather as if he wanted a civil parting free of any hostility or vindictiveness. He thinks she has chosen to leave, which does not surprise him given the assurances of hatred and contempt that she bestows on him so liberally. I do not think that at this point he is thinking of her staying back, and when he refers to the aakhri khwahish of a departing guest, it is precisely that and no more.

To sum up, while we all know what is to happen eventually, probably after another 200 episodes, right now, to say, as Vicki does, that Jodha is Promising that this marriage is for keeps and she will always be his shield, seems to me to be so far out into the future as to be clean out of the range of sight for the present. In the meanwhile, I am tiring of all this unending prodding and poking of the tea leaves or chicken entrails to see where their putative love affair is headed, while all we get onscreen these days is an endless series of tiresome squabbles and exercises in one-upmanship, interspersed with bouts of rona dhona and acid-tipped exchanges.

If I had paid for a ticket for this show, I would ask for my money back and go buy a DVD of Jodhaa Akbar. Aishwarya's Jodhaa would be balm for nerves frayed by the shenanigans of this avatar.

I do apologise if I sound acidic myself, but today's Meena Bazaar encounter set my teeth on edge. I set great store by proper behaviour and good breeding, and I do not like it when these are found to be so patently wanting in the accredited heroine.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: dilipc302


It amazes me how easily arrogance of a man is forgotten and protest/unhappiness shown against him by the person who has undergone 'immense pain and humiliation' is questioned!


Not only that when ppl run out of reasons to bash her they start saying she should behave with dignity...Well she is dignified with everyone except him...
Again since he wanted to burn her in public without giving two hoots for her dignity now he should be prepared for the attack...
Edited by elasingh - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Uppaas,

I could not agree with you more, and I would like to add my two bits very quickly. So I hope you will not mind it if I paraphrase below what I wrote on Vicki's thread lat e last night.

My take is far harsher than yours on Jodha but right now, I think what she deserves is a sound spanking.

"About Jodha, I think you - and you are of course far from alone in this respect - tend to romanticise her to excess, perhaps as the designated heroine. I do not see her as embodying all shades of humanity and womanhood, unless you include in this description being brattish, and overtly and publicly rude to the man who is both her husband and an emperor, and thus has to be accorded at least public respect.

Not to forget a tendency to hold forth, at the drop of a hat, about the superiority of her native culture in the most condescending and even sarcastic manner possible, like a Hyde Park soap box orator. I found her lecture on colours pompous throughout, delivered as if she was talking to an uncultured inferior being, and in parts completely meaningless.

She was also trying so hard to needle him that she lost sight of all good sense and even her royal breeding. Her apologists never tire of saying about Jodha that she never fails to maintain proper decorum towards her husband in public, no matter how she rails at him in private. Today, she threw even that to the winds.

The way is which she declared, in answer to his polite question of what was the significance of having a stall of colours, that she did not consider it necessary to tell him that, was not only extremely rude, but betrayed a total lack of breeding dismaying in a princess born. One wonders what the Shahenshah' s attendants, not to speak of her own,would have thought about such behaviour in public. Nothing flattering to Jodha, I am sure.

I was delighted that her deliberate impertinence in soiling what she thought to be his white dupatta boomeranged on her,and she fell flat on her face. I almost cheered Jalal for having tripped her up so smoothly and effectively
.

The symbolism of her colouring what would have been a widow's white with pink, thus making it a sign of happiness for a wedded woman (though then it would have to be red, not pink), as it has been interpreted elsewhere, would have been perfect, except that she did not do it for that purpose. She did it to spoil something that she thought belonged to him. That she was left with something gifted to her that is now unusable seemed to be poetic justice!

To those who protest that she is doing no more to Jalal now than what he did to her during the dature ka ark phase, there are two answers to that.

One, that he has apologised for his unfairness then, and in public. He is not being given any credit for that. He should be. Not many modern husbands would do as much, if they were in a similar position of absolute power. She has been as rude herself repeatedly in the past, and still is. In fact she is going from bad to worse.

Two, that there is a distinction to be drawn between public behaviour and private behaviour. Good behaviour. especially in public, is something one owes to oneself and to one's upbringing, it need have nothing to do with the way others have behaved or behave with you. I thus have nothing against Jodha ranting at Jalal in private. But in public it is an entirely different matter, and that is what distinguishes a lady, and more so a princess, from the common run of ill-bred humanity.

So when Jodha burnt her wedding joda, after having been cautioned by her mother about the likely consequences for Amer, I felt that she was behaving like a reckless fishwife. Today I felt that she was behaving like a shrew. Royalty is taught above all never to let their self-control slip, no matter what the circumstances. Judged by those standards, Jodha is sadly wanting. She has always been so.

It seemed to me that Jalal treated her today the way an adult treats an ill-behaved and obnoxious child, with exaggerated patience and unshaken calm . Not as if he was trying to patch up an as yet non-existent relationship, but rather as if he wanted a civil parting free of any hostility or vindictiveness. He thinks she has chosen to leave, which does not surprise him given the assurances of hatred and contempt that she bestows on him so liberally. I do not think that at this point he is thinking of her staying back, and when he refers to the aakhri khwahish of a departing guest, it is precisely that and no more.

To sum up, while we all know what is to happen eventually, probably after another 200 episodes, right now, to say, as Vicki does, that Jodha is Promising that this marriage is for keeps and she will always be his shield, seems to me to be so far out into the future as to be clean out of the range of sight for the present. In the meanwhile, I am tiring of all this unending prodding and poking of the tea leaves or chicken entrails to see where their putative love affair is headed, while all we get onscreen these days is an endless series of tiresome squabbles and exercises in one-upmanship, interspersed with bouts of rona dhona and acid-tipped exchanges.

If I had paid for a ticket for this show, I would ask for my money back and go buy a DVD of Jodhaa Akbar. Aishwarya's Jodhaa would be balm for nerves frayed by the shenanigans of this avatar.

I do apologise if I sound acidic myself, but today's Meena Bazaar encounter set my teeth on edge. I set great store by proper behaviour and good breeding, and I do not like it when these are found to be so patently wanting in the accredited heroine.

Shyamala B.Cowsik



Welll very welll written thats what I meanand u explained it more beautifullyyy than me thanks...👏 BOLD that my point
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh


Not only that when ppl run out of reasons to bash her they start saying she should behave with dignity...Well she is dignified with everyone except him...


Sorry no 1 is bashing JODHA...every 1 has their opinion...Akbar was really bashed during the daturi ka ark episode...

Pls read shayamas post above urs..


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Posted: 12 years ago
CVS wanted to show that jodha thinks only from her heart n have no brain n when her respects hurts then she become rude!!! that's why she spoil her own gift!! 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh


Not only that when ppl run out of reasons to bash her they start saying she should behave with dignity...Well she is dignified with everyone except him...
Again since he wanted to burn her in public without giving two hoots for her dignity now he should be prepared for the attack...


I wonder if this is in general. Such behavior of other A's (Arnav, Asad) from other hit serials was also forgotten and reactions to their behaviors by those who suffered was questioned.

(This comment is not for bashing any body i.e any actor or character or any fan of them. It is just my impression after reading conversations in such threads.)

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