Jodha Akbar 59:A change of perspective - Page 3

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Posted: 12 years ago
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She would have retorted: Kitne baar ek hi vaakya ko dohrayenge aap, Shahenshah? Kuch toh naya sochiye! Main yahi vishay sunsunke thak gayi hoon.

Aur aap to mujhe sab ke saamne jalane waale the? Uska kya hua? Agra mein lakdi ka aabhav to nahin ho gaya hai? Hum aapke ke liye Amer se lakdi mangwa dein?

Or, when he refers to her father not having been executed or imprisoned, but instead suffering even in the lap of luxury because of what his children were being subjected to, Jodha could well have attempted a snappy comeback:

Toh aapne hamare Babasa to kaal kotri mein nahin daala? . Kyon nahin kiya aapne, Shahenshah? Hum to yeh soch kar prasanna ho rahe the ki agar aap aise karte, aur unhe kuch din daal roti par rakhte, to unki sehat ke liye kitna achcha hota! Maasa kitne hi varshon se nakaam prayas kar rahi hain unka vazan ghatane ka, aur yahan aapke prayas se ho hi jaata!

And right at the beginning, as he stomps in with a predictableTum jaanti ho ki hamein sabse zyaada sukoon kis se aata hai? Dushman ki aankhon me aansoo dekh kar, she might well have tucked a paan casually into her mouth, with the comment: Waise to hamein Amer ke pakhwan hi bhaate hain, apitu Shahenshah, aapke Agra ke paan to atyant swadisht hain, adding,Aap kuch keh rahe the? , while raising her big dark, tear free eyes to his.

ROFL especially the last one! I would love to see the Old Jodha there, but what to say these CVs. But they must have something in their mind bacause as far I have seen them they are no saas-bahu daily saops waale CVs.
I want Jodha to retort back, Not cry helplessly.
Maham Anga is investigating, God, I pray she find evidences proving Jodha innocent and she shows them to Shehen Shah. Please God!
Jalal will use Amer waale against Ratan Singh, That's in the War na? Agaisnt Ratan Singh or something else.
Whatever happens it would be downcrash for the Sukanya-Marriage-AkDha-Romance Expectors LoL!!
You have written very well Aunty, and especially Rotorts Jodha could use, I desperately want her to.
One thing that is wavering in my ming is: How could possibly Jalal fall in love with Jodha after this? What to you say? If it isn't a Plan then how will they show the Love Story?
And for you Question, I think Ratan Singh"s Riyasat comes under Mughal Sultanate only, that's what Jalal was saying "Hamari Riyasat\something...ko panaah dena matlab Mughal Sultanate se Bagawat karna..." I remeber some bits only, which said, That place comes under Jalal's Terriotary, maybe that's why that Fariyaadi managed to reach Agra within 1 Day
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Posted: 12 years ago
#22
LOVED the analysis..👏
I am a little late in my reply...weekend has made me lazy...😉

Jalal- he is on a rampage...jalal has always displayed a strong protective streak when it comes to children...the sense of being a failure is weighing him down...he failed to ensuring his unborn child's well being...to worsen the matter...jodha, who had slowly and steadily managed to conquer his thoughts, is the one responsible for it...

Jodha- the only logical thing that she has said during this fiasco is' when you have given us 10 days...then, why this mad rush to destroy everything and everyone related to me...' ...having said that...jodha dear, you fondly call your husband 'jallad'...what makes you think the uchit-anuchit lecture is of any use...??? Why can't she say something meaningful...???why not go down fighting..?? Requests to CVs, please borrow the lines from aunty's post...please, please, please...

Ruqaiya and Maham- ok, I have already cribbed about this scene in few posts...and, I will do that again...that scene reminded me of the awful films of 90's..blaring siren of police jeep...giving ample opportunity to the culprit to escape...just like jodha's dialogue...the dialogues in this scene too were not making much sense...ruk says 'I don't care who investigates the matter...I want the real culprit...' her common sense graph replicates a sine curve...and, guess what??...maham got the opportunity to investigate the matter...wasn't ruqaiya planning to topple this woman few episodes ago...???

Investigation- why can't Khwaja shera be summoned and asked questions about miscarriages of other harem woman?? We aren't the women who suffered miscarriage questioned??? They can give important clues...what exactly happened with them..?? A pattern might be there...Lolz, am I asking too much from the creative team..???

The culprit engineered a miscarriage of begam-e-khas...he/she also managed to implicate shehensha's nayi begum...and, look at the way investigation is being done...




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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am glad you like my persiflage, Apurva!

But there is no way, my dear , that the farmer could have reached Agra in a day. Jalal takes 16 days of riding to get to Malwa, and again days on the road to get from the place near Amer, where he gets married, to Agra.

Ratan Singh's little riyasat of Sujanpur is not in the Mughal empire but on its borders. The village that was attacked by the dakus he sponsors and protects is within the Mughal empire. Whence the punitive attack on Sujanpur by Jalal, to protect his subjects.

He would have sent an army contingent to take care of Ratan Singh in any case, as it is a matter of both principle and precedent - little principalities cannot be allowed to think that they can get away with tweaking the tail of the Mughal lion. But he would not have gone himself.

He goes himself now to see how the Ameris perform, and whether his idea of using them as part of the Mughal army, which he had once expounded to his ministers to explain why he was ready to marry Jodha, will work.

I do not think it is to test their loyalty and then conclude that they were not guilty in the datura poisoning case. The two are distinct.

The Ameris could well have wanted (so Jalal and the other Mughals would think) Ruqaiya's baby not to see the light of day so that Jodha's child could eventually inherit the throne. But they would not want harm to come to Jalal, for Jodha's position at Agra would depend on Jalal staying alive and ruling. So they would risk their lives to save his.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: ApurvaLovesARVI

She would have retorted: Kitne baar ek hi vaakya ko dohrayenge aap, Shahenshah? Kuch toh naya sochiye! Main yahi vishay sunsunke thak gayi hoon.

Aur aap to mujhe sab ke saamne jalane waale the? Uska kya hua? Agra mein lakdi ka aabhav to nahin ho gaya hai? Hum aapke ke liye Amer se lakdi mangwa dein?

Or, when he refers to her father not having been executed or imprisoned, but instead suffering even in the lap of luxury because of what his children were being subjected to, Jodha could well have attempted a snappy comeback:

Toh aapne hamare Babasa to kaal kotri mein nahin daala? . Kyon nahin kiya aapne, Shahenshah? Hum to yeh soch kar prasanna ho rahe the ki agar aap aise karte, aur unhe kuch din daal roti par rakhte, to unki sehat ke liye kitna achcha hota! Maasa kitne hi varshon se nakaam prayas kar rahi hain unka vazan ghatane ka, aur yahan aapke prayas se ho hi jaata!

And right at the beginning, as he stomps in with a predictableTum jaanti ho ki hamein sabse zyaada sukoon kis se aata hai? Dushman ki aankhon me aansoo dekh kar, she might well have tucked a paan casually into her mouth, with the comment: Waise to hamein Amer ke pakhwan hi bhaate hain, apitu Shahenshah, aapke Agra ke paan to atyant swadisht hain, adding,Aap kuch keh rahe the? , while raising her big dark, tear free eyes to his.

ROFL especially the last one! I would love to see the Old Jodha there, but what to say these CVs. But they must have something in their mind bacause as far I have seen them they are no saas-bahu daily saops waale CVs.
I want Jodha to retort back, Not cry helplessly.
Maham Anga is investigating, God, I pray she find evidences proving Jodha innocent and she shows them to Shehen Shah. Please God!
Jalal will use Amer waale against Ratan Singh, That's in the War na? Agaisnt Ratan Singh or something else.
Whatever happens it would be downcrash for the Sukanya-Marriage-AkDha-Romance Expectors LoL!!
You have written very well Aunty, and especially Rotorts Jodha could use, I desperately want her to.
One thing that is wavering in my ming is: How could possibly Jalal fall in love with Jodha after this? What to you say? If it isn't a Plan then how will they show the Love Story?
And for you Question, I think Ratan Singh"s Riyasat comes under Mughal Sultanate only, that's what Jalal was saying "Hamari Riyasat\something...ko panaah dena matlab Mughal Sultanate se Bagawat karna..." I remeber some bits only, which said, That place comes under Jalal's Terriotary, maybe that's why that Fariyaadi managed to reach Agra within 1 Day

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Posted: 12 years ago
#24
Thank you, Suvi dear, and as for being late, I myself posted it only last evening.

No, dear heart, the CVs are not going to borrow my snappy cracks for Jodha. They seem set on her abla naari roop, alas! I wrote all this funny stuff only for you gals, and I am satisfied with your appreciation. Thanks a lot!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Super Kool

LOVED the analysis..👏
I am a little late in my reply...weekend has made me lazy...😉

Jalal- he is on a rampage...jalal has always displayed a strong protective streak when it comes to children...the sense of being a failure is weighing him down...he failed to ensuring his unborn child's well being...to worsen the matter...jodha, who had slowly and steadily managed to conquer his thoughts, is the one responsible for it...

Jodha- the only logical thing that she has said during this fiasco is' when you have given us 10 days...then, why this mad rush to destroy everything and everyone related to me...' ...having said that...jodha dear, you fondly call your husband 'jallad'...what makes you think the uchit-anuchit lecture is of any use...??? Why can't she say something meaningful...???why not go down fighting..?? Requests to CVs, please borrow the lines from aunty's post...please, please, please...

Ruqaiya and Maham- ok, I have already cribbed about this scene in few posts...and, I will do that again...that scene reminded me of the awful films of 90's..blaring siren of police jeep...giving ample opportunity to the culprit to escape...just like jodha's dialogue...the dialogues in this scene too were not making much sense...ruk says 'I don't care who investigates the matter...I want the real culprit...' her common sense graph replicates a sine curve...and, guess what??...maham got the opportunity to investigate the matter...wasn't ruqaiya planning to topple this woman few episodes ago...???

Investigation- why can't Khwaja shera be summoned and asked questions about miscarriages of other harem woman?? We aren't the women who suffered miscarriage questioned??? They can give important clues...what exactly happened with them..?? A pattern might be there...Lolz, am I asking too much from the creative team..???

The culprit engineered a miscarriage of begam-e-khas...he/she also managed to implicate shehensha's nayi begum...and, look at the way investigation is being done...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kashi dear,

I wrote this only for you gals, and then to amuse myself. I am delighted that you liked it so much!

As for the CVs, your .Ek naye packet mein bechein tumko cheeseh purani is the perfect summing up.

Shyamala Aunty

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Now this is wat i would call a masterpiece .. Shyamala aunty you got my guts aching with this one...

THe best but is the jodha verses , we should ask EK for jodha to be sent to you for a day or two ... may be she would learn to deliver some cheeky dialogues u wrote ... even if she opts not to use her brains...


Another thing , i have bookmarked this post , because for next 6 months .. we sure r going to run in the same loop ... furious jalal( atleast he is treat to eyes n his bateesi is quite impressive : he can give many actresses run for money for those tooth paste ad's) --- crying jodha--- boring amerwassis-- mad MA--- sad ruqu-- n then suddenly , the lead will fall in love...

Sab nazar ka dokha haiii . C.V's must be singing ...Ek naye packet mein bechein tumko cheeseh purani .

After reading your post am all happy n geared up for OTT coming this monday .

Thanks for this wonderful effort .

Kashi

PS:- I had noticed the same , when tht farmer said ki mein abhi abhi apne bete ka antime sanskar kareke aaya hoon... I was like kaise?? Aiala !! UDD KEE😉

N My favourite jodha dialogue is :- Aap iss tarah bal prayog nahi kar sakte ... she really sound like a chicken while saying the bold part here.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you, Suvi dear, and as for being late, I myself posted it only last evening.

No, dear heart, the CVs are not going to borrow my snappy cracks for Jodha. They seem set on her abla naari roop, alas! I wrote all this funny stuff only for you gals, and I am satisfied with your appreciation. Thanks a lot!

I wish this abla nari roop is not there to stay...we have enough abla naris on television... Love your posts...as always...🤗

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Oh, yes, Gargi dear, I will sign the petition with right good will, as Shakespeare would have put it!

So that is why there were no comments from you! I noticed that, but I did not want to nag you, and I also thought that Maithreyi and you might be travelling. it is good to have you back.

I am glad you liked my persiflage. I enjoyed it myself, and it made me feel distinctly better.

My eye is better, thank you, but still no late nights.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: Bamonforever

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Great post Shyamala di as always , n let me inform you the good news of me sparing myself from the headache by giving the last few episodes a cold shrug n not watching. I'm only reading the WU n your post.
I just can't tolerate Jalal any more , I'm feeling like starting a protest against butchering of Akbar's character at the earliest , I hope you'll be kind enough to sign the petitions. 😉
N Jodha ! I don't know about Paridhi, but I'm surely gonna sue Balaji if this continues for another week.
This is the most horrible screenplay ever , the dialogues n complete handling of the track is pathetic to say it in appreciating terms. Feeling bad for the extremely talented actors.
I needed this post to cool e down n give me a hearty laugh. Thank you so much. I hope your health is well , Ma'am ?
Take care.
- Gargi.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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And I love you for loving it! I wrote it only for all you gals whose nerves must have been in tatters, and of course to amuse myself as well, and I am delighted that it went down so well with you.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: LuvMishalRaheja

Thanks for this much needed release of headache !

Your post is like a breath of fresh air !
Loved , loved n loved it !
🤣 🤣 🤣

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sonya dear, I am aux anges, as the French would say, to see this rapturous reception for my essay in persiflage. I wrote it only for you gals, and for myself too, of course, and I am so pleased that it lightened up your evening.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: SonyaBlade

WOW Aunty, you have definitely made me laugh...I'm glad my husband wasn't around when I read your post because it would have been difficult to explain to him why I'm laughing because he despises Hindi TV and refuses to even watch a sub-titled episode with me... so alas, I'm left to laughing all by myself just before bedtime...OMG I haven't laughed that much in a while...

Thanks for the FAB and utterly hilarious and splendid post!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks a lot, Nandini. I was not really expecting my little tongue in cheek effort to go down so well,and I am very pleased that it did.

That next day arrival in Agra is nonsense.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: nandininandu

Brilliant write up for the weekend. You have asked the right questions. I dont understand how bharmal reached the very next day???
How did messenger reached amber on the same day when Sambar itself is 3 days journey from agra. I loved your observations on Maham. Thanks again for the beautiful post

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

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