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Posted: 12 years ago
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An incredibly relevant post!!


I am absolutely hooked to this show.As it happens,I have a thing for star crossed love stories.And as a noob with little or no knowledge or interest for that matter in the historical accounts,I am enjoying this story as a regular,novice viewer.

I think Rajat is doing a good job.He's young and with a positive attitude,I believe he'll be able to bring more nuances and subtleties to his acting .But then,it's just the beginning.He has a long way to go and I'm sure he'll prove his mettle as an actor.You have explained perfectly well how a 19/20 year old Jalal should be.And I don't find much to complain about.Truth be told,my previous tryst with an Indian soap has taught me well to act like a sponge and absorb the good days,the thrill of it altogether .Because Indian shows have a disrepute of going downhill after dishing out a spadeful of intellectually exciting episodes.Though,JA is a period drama and I hope Ekta would not take much "creative liberty" and bend the plot to suit her melodramatic interests!!So in a nutshell,I'm trying to enjoy this show before it gets harakiri'd upon😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#82
Thank you so very much.

What is also incredibly relevant is the part @red. As for the wish you have expressed there, I can do no more than say Amen, for perhaps, as Jalal would have said, Aameen!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

PS: You clearly belie your id by being so wide awake to all the nuances of this show!

Originally posted by: droopy-asleep

An incredibly relevant post!!


I am absolutely hooked to this show.As it happens,I have a thing for star crossed love stories.And as a noob with little or no knowledge or interest for that matter in the historical accounts,I am enjoying this story as a regular,novice viewer.

I think Rajat is doing a good job.He's young and with a positive attitude,I believe he'll be able to bring more nuances and subtleties to his acting .But then,it's just the beginning.He has a long way to go and I'm sure he'll prove his mettle as an actor.You have explained perfectly well how a 19/20 year old Jalal should be.And I don't find much to complain about.Truth be told,my previous tryst with an Indian soap has taught me well to act like a sponge and absorb the good days,the thrill of it altogether

.Because Indian shows have a disrepute of going downhill after dishing out a spadeful of intellectually exciting episodes.Though,JA is a period drama and I hope Ekta would not take much "creative liberty" and bend the plot to suit her melodramatic interests!!So in a nutshell,I'm trying to enjoy this show before it gets harakiri'd upon😆

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#83
Defending his character is quite alright. But there is something called connecting with the audience. If the audience cannot connect, then the audience is never wrong, only the actor is. So it's not lack of understanding from the audience's end but a lack of performance.

With that said.

Rajat has performed excellently. Which doesn't mean ofc that he's the best there is. Unless he has scope for improvement, we won't see better performances. And I for one expect a lot from him.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#84
superb post.
Rajat is best as Akbar
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Posted: 12 years ago
#85
Thank you,my dear.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: maanluvsgeet

superb post.

Rajat is best as Akbar

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Posted: 12 years ago
#86
I quite agree with you in principle, but there are two problems here.

One, there is no one monolithic audience, even for TV, though perhaps there is less of niche audiences here than for films. The success of a TV show depends on how large the segment of the Indian audience that decides the vital TRPs turns out to be. For films, there is a mass audience for Dabangg and then there is a niche audience for an Anurag Kashyap film. The latter still makes money because of limited costs and the multiplex audience. The arithmetic for TV is far more cruel.

The only really top quality Indian TV shows I have seen in recent years were all by YashRaj's TV division: Their 26 parter Powder, about the global and Indian drug trade, was better than any comparable US production with 20 times the budget. Then there was an official adaptation of Kane and Abel as Kismat, again only for 6 months and 64 daily episodes. It was only a little below Powder in quality. There were a couple of other good but lighter shows , but none of them did well, with TRPs consistently between 0.7 and 1 while Ekta's tripe shows got 4 and at times 7. So Yashraj cut their losses and closed down their TV division. So you see, the Indian TV audience gets what it wants (or deserves) !

This brings me to my second point. The audience is not always right. If it had been, Yashraj TV would have been a flourishing and expanding concern, not a piece of TV history.

Moreover, if a part or even the whole of the audience judges a medieval monarch by the standards they would apply to a 21st century Majnu, then again they are not right. This was in fact the sole argument in my post.

But the fact remains that right or wrong, TRPs are king, and so popular mediocrity will continue to thrive, while any good shows wither on the vine. Perhaps the audience is right, by its lights and its standards.

As for Rajat in Jodha Akbar, he seems very promising, but of course he cannot afford to be complacent, or to stop trying to improve himself. But then this is a given in any field of endeavour.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: Rockerchic

Defending his character is quite alright. But there is something called connecting with the audience. If the audience cannot connect, then the audience is never wrong, only the actor is. So it's not lack of understanding from the audience's end but a lack of performance.


With that said.

Rajat has performed excellently. Which doesn't mean ofc that he's the best there is. Unless he has scope for improvement, we won't see better performances. And I for one expect a lot from him.

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#87
What can I say! 😊

Super happy to read my exact thoughts so beautifully woven in your post. Thank you so very much Shyamala Ma'am😃
Keep such thought provoking posts coming!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#88
My dear,

What can I say but that I am flattered and very, very pleased?

Shyamala (Aunty? I would prefer that to Ma'am, unless you have any objections to it!)

Originally posted by: QtnNotti

What can I say! 😊


Super happy to read my exact thoughts so beautifully woven in your post. Thank you so very much Shyamala Ma'am😃
Keep such thought provoking posts coming!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I quite agree with you in principle, but there are two
problems here.</font>


One, there is no one monolithic audience, even for TV, though perhaps there is
less of niche audiences here than for films. The success of a TV show depends
on how large the segment of the Indian audience that decides the
vital TRPs turns out to be. For films, there is a mass audience for Dabangg and
then there is a niche audience for an Anurag Kashyap film. The latter
still makes money because of limited costs and the multiplex audience. The
arithmetic for TV is far more cruel.



The only really top quality Indian TV
shows I have seen in recent years were all by YashRaj's TV division: Their 26
parter Powder, about the global and Indian drug trade, was better
than any comparable US production with 20 times the budget. Then there was an
official adaptation of Kane and Abel as Kismat, again only
for 6 months and 64 daily episodes. It was only a little below Powder in
quality. There were a couple of other good but lighter shows , but none
of them did well, with TRPs consistently between 0.7 and 1 while Ekta's
tripe shows got 4 and at times 7. So Yashraj cut their losses and closed down
their TV division. So you see, the Indian TV audience gets what it wants (or
deserves) !



This brings me to my second point. The audience is not always right. If it had
been, Yashraj TV would have been a flourishing and expanding concern, not a
piece of TV history.



Moreover, if a part or even the whole of the audience judges a medieval monarch by the standards
they would apply to a 21st century Majnu, then again they are not right. This
was in fact the sole argument in my post.



But the fact remains that right or wrong, TRPs are king, and so popular
mediocrity will continue to thrive, while any good shows wither on the vine. Perhaps
the audience is right, by its
lights and its standards.



As for Rajat in Jodha Akbar, he seems very promising, but of course he cannot
afford to be complacent, or to stop trying to improve himself. But then this is
a given in any field of endeavour.



Shyamala B.Cowsik<b></b>


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YashRaj shows actually had standard unlike the shows currently shown on t.v.
But for me my favourite show is and always will be Sarabhai vs Sarabhai. I don't know if you've seen it but if you haven't i definitely recommend it. A show in a class of if it's own. The makers had the courage to not follow the herd and make something different. Even today people demand a Season 2.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#90
I have not seen it, most probably since I was mostly out of India on diplomatic postings and missed some very good shows. I will try and see it online. Which would be the best site to go to for the episodes? Was that the one with the Pathak sisters? I had heard about it.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: blahblah26


YashRaj shows actually had standard unlike the shows currently shown on t.v.
But for me my favourite show is and always will be Sarabhai vs Sarabhai. I don't know if you've seen it but if you haven't i definitely recommend it. A show in a class of if it's own. The makers had the courage to not follow the herd and make something different. Even today people demand a Season 2.

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