JDJ8 Contestants: Review Week 3.

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Breath-Mark

@Breath-Mark

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Posted: 10 years ago

#11

Hi,

Great review. 😳I agree that use of props is to enhance a dance. And not be the central focus. But since its their theme, so im gonna go with the flow.😛 Btw, i dont think anyone deserves 9-10s at least at this point of the show.

I guess Shahid said clearly that theme is to dance on a moving item (prop) with speed, motion and balance. Also the difficulty of prop is well noted. Probably to make it fair to all.

Radhika - Sorry, I didnt grasp which issue you stressed in your prior posts.

Felt she was better than last week, quite challenging to do tango to a bollywood folk typish song. (it kept running in my head --- wrong song !) & also handle the harness. Probably a unique concept but not that great of execution. But there was difficulty level. I agree with KJo there were some messy steps in the middle. But end was impactful. She needs to be in the act from start to end.

Btw what happened to GH, he is the one of the only ones i trust. He picked on saying about her legs and face. Lol Btw i feel she needs to let a judge speak completely before thanking them.

Mohit - I liked how he managed to do some steps in the beginning before prop was used. Weird prop to use like SK said with its angular movements. N did justice & managed it well. I'm liking his growth.

Scarlett - She is amazing but needs to control her expressions. Can be OTT and loud at times. Choreo was letdown. Was disappointed. The rest i agree with you. I think they are capable of better work and have X factor in them.

Ashish - Yes, he was enjoying himself. But I doubt he will go very far with the increased difficulty each week. He is cute to watch tho 😆

Vivian - Yea difficult prop to use. But choreo is so smart to cover his non-dancing abilities. He is still stiff tho. Personally felt this is exactly what the theme was about (Atleast from judges POV) but very little dancing.

Kavitha - Wow man! That prop was so scary, one of the most difficult but i think they pulled off really well. I feel they always repeat their steps. Choreo needs more creativity there.

Shamita- I think very few female dancers in JDJ 8 have the natural elegance she has. And it was one of the best dances but very poor use of prop. It was like they added it for the sake of it. Was expecting dangerous lifts and stunts, but alas. After Scarlett- Dhiraj these 2 seem to be fire on stage. 😳

Sanaya- I could see her back to normal self. But I felt really disappointed with her act. Due to choreo (lack of difficulty makes it way too simple, forgettable even). Cos it was freestyle and the slow moving threadmill. Wish they had attempted a different dance style with faster threadmill. Her expressions and energy saved the whole act. Agree with lauren about walking. Felt choreo saved the best moves for himself. Headstand and slide 😆

Raftaar- Hmm.. not the best dancing but i think he isnt used well. Didnt agree with his scores too. Choreo was bad and so was the prop in my pov. So i agree with "It was very chaotic and I couldn't wait for it to end."

Subreet -They started off well. Then were in the air once did the leg move. Then 2nd time went up did nothing. It was typical aerial act tho but i personally enjoyed it. But end was great with satin cloth part. The speed she turned 😲 I think i was a good performance considering her condition. But i was also amazed at how well her choreo handles her. Cos with her condition if she fumbles, its so gonna be obvious but he prevents that so well. Agreed with GH, KJo comments 👏

Faisal - Different interpretation but i also felt if all took literal meaning then it would have been easy for all. Esp for trained dancers like themselves. Dance wise - innovative steps so kudos! But for first time in 3 weeks, i felt something missing. Kjo said they didnt allow it to become boring with energy and expression. But i felt it dragging. Music annoyed me too. Im sure they can do better.

This got way too long. Sorry 😆

Edited by SilentShadow - 10 years ago

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Neetz

@.Jane..

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Posted: 10 years ago

#12

@medha: Hi! Lol, I don't think we're ever agreed as much as we did this week. The only thing I kind of feel differently about is Subhreet. This week was actually my least liked performance of hers. I know the aerial act couldn't be easy for her and I appreciate that, but they just kept rotating in circles throughout the performance.

Rest I think you're spot-on about how I felt as well and I really don't have anything to add. Thank you so much once again for sharing your thoughts here. Always a pleasure to read them :)

@rachuroxxx: KJo's judgement in general has surpassed my expectations this season but I absolutely loved him for his stand on Faisal's thing. For other contestants the prop was something different and for him no prop was.

I agree with your assessment on Vivian and Subhreet as well. Thanks for replying!

@SilentShadow: Thank you so much for your insights and please don't apologise for the length. I really enjoyed reading it. I agree with your point on no-one deserving 9-10 yet but it's been discussed so many times that I don't care anymore😆

And difficulty should be a factor when judging but not above dancing. The more difficult act got the marks instead of the one with better dance. It's wrong priority. I am not saying give marks to super-simple stuff but strike some balance!

My problem with Radhika is that I don't see her engaged in her performance which disconnects me as a viewer as well. And I don't see the effort from her which I do from the rest of the contestants. I've been harping about it since 2 weeks now so thought I'll spare the members this time. For me, this was her best performance so far. Yea of course it had its flaws but it didn't feel as detached as her previous performances.

What Subhreet does every week on that stage is commendable but I really felt this wasn't her best, she could've been much better. I was overall very underwhelmed with her this week.

Faisal took the literal meaning and it might have been the easy way but it was also creative and he has used props before so this was different in his case. I don't see why they would avoid a prop if the instructions were clear.

Rest I agree with your assessments on the other contestants :)

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Breath-Mark

@Breath-Mark

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Posted: 10 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: .Jane..

@SilentShadow: Thank you so much for your insights and please don't apologise for the length. I really enjoyed reading it. I agree with your point on no-one deserving 9-10 yet but it's been discussed so many times that I don't care anymore😆
And difficulty should be a factor when judging but not above dancing. The more difficult act got the marks instead of the one with better dance. It's wrong priority. I am not saying give marks to super-simple stuff but strike some balance!
My problem with Radhika is that I don't see her engaged in her performance which disconnects me as a viewer as well. And I don't see the effort from her which I do from the rest of the contestants. I've been harping about it since 2 weeks now so thought I'll spare the members this time. For me, this was her best performance so far. Yea of course it had its flaws but it didn't feel as detached as her previous performances.
What Subhreet does every week on that stage is commendable but I really felt this wasn't her best, she could've been much better. I was overall very underwhelmed with her this week.
Faisal took the literal meaning and it might have been the easy way but it was also creative and he has used props before so this was different in his case. I don't see why they would avoid a prop if the instructions were clear.
Rest I agree with your assessments on the other contestants :)

First of all, thanks for sucha warm welcome. 🤗Haha even i felt like omitting about 9-10s 😆

@bold: Okay this is strange. I felt the judging panel was very justified for the first time. Which good dance you felt didnt get the marks? Personally felt, all of them deserved their marks. except Raftaar (even then i agree prop was so distracting) & Shamita (was too easy but she could have gotten 33)

I didnt catch Subhreet's 1st week. 2nd week's was pretty good. But i just think aerial act suited her more than Radhika. The other pair didnt utilize it well until the end.

&about faisal's team, i would say it is a huge hit-and-miss. Kjo had a different opinion. If he had felt the same as GH, he would have gotten lower marks. When shahid introduced the round he said about balancing & speed. It implied prop. But overuse of prop due to prior rounds prevented them from attempting. Pretty sure they would have nailed it if it was interpreted like others.

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Neetz

@.Jane..

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Posted: 10 years ago

#14

@SilentShadow: Aw, no need to thank me. I get very happy reading people's thoughts on my post🤗

Well, it's not the marking per se but some of their comments stressed so much on the 'difficulty' level that it rubbed me in the wrong way. Shamita is a great example. Not counting Faisal, she was the best dance-wise and they scored her so poorly compared to others who were so busy in props that they forgot to dance. And for what? Because the stage wasn't fast enough for them? It just sounded wrong to me.

Subhreet did a better job in the air than Radhika, she had more control over herself. But Radhika's overall act was better this week.

Honestly, I have no idea about what instructions were given for this challenge but i can't wrap my head around them not using a prop if it was explicitly mentioned. And KJo wouldn't support that interpretation either. I feel if they're so rigid then they should give clear instructions. I felt Faisal's act had both speed (fast motion) and balance (slow motion) elements. If they wanted a prop, they should've mentioned it. Another one who was underscored just because he had more 'control' over his act. It's alright if you feel differently but I found the whole thing a little absurd.

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.SmokeySilence.

@.SmokeySilence.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#15

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sorry Neethz. i couldn't edit earlier. this been a crazy exhausting week for me.

anyways i agree with you the prop thing. no judge mentioned motion should be on prop so anything related to motion should be okay. i was wondering the same while faisals performance and if could have different ep on dancing with props. even earlier seasons of JDJ had.

I like sanayas dance. she was full of energy. and i hope jai does even better choreography next time.

I actually like Shamitas performance and agree it's not easy to dance on a moving stage like that.

I didn like Scarlet, Raftar or Radhikas performance much. it was okay okay for me. so is Ashish. Scarlet can do a lot better than this i feel.

Vivian shocked me because he danced on that thing and i didn expect him to do that and i thot he will fall t be honest. but im glad Bhawna made him dance. i more like his bit near the judges area and just happy he is learning to move atleast. his footwork was actually good 😲he must be working very hard.

I love Mohits improvement and he is defo the dark horse. his postures and everything gets better and better. he is here for a long time i hope.

and totally agree on Surbheets dance. even i saw tomorrows promo and im like again same 😕 they give almost similar thing every week still judges never point that out.
and when i heard kavita is gone. i was sad bcoz I just felt she could have done much better and i don like raftars performance maybe bcoz something about his personality puts me off or its just Sneha's choreography is weak i feel. KVB was a much better dancer still she couldnt do much with him.
i missed half of Faisals performance but im glad he did something totally diff but i saw some of his DID clips and i feel he hasnt even shown his best till now. he can do a lot better.

Edited by .SmokeySilence. - 10 years ago

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Chaiya_Chaiya

@Chaiya_Chaiya

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Posted: 10 years ago

#16

Hi! A bit late this time, but nonetheless, here I am.

Like you, this week's acts were a little thanda for me as well.

Agree with you on almost everything except little parts of Sanaya's, Shamita's, Vivian's acts.

Sanaya: Like you, I liked their act. I loved Sanaya, but only liked the act. This type of act requires lots of energy and stamina as Sanaya said. Especially the part in the beginning where she is holding the treadmill and spinning her legs in a circle. She did a fabulous job and left no stone unturned in what she was given. The disappointment came from the choreography. It started out with a bang and I was expecting something more exciting to come by. The skater step was the only thing that came close to the wow thing after that. I wish Jai had utilized on a treadmill in a different way than various sliding moves from it. I like him as a person, but he fell short of my expectation as a choreographer. I really hope he pulls up his socks in both creativity and choreography.

Shamita: I liked her act. But I was too focused on them as dancers and hardly paid attention to their prop. Considering the theme was prop based, I wish the prop chosen would have captured more attention. Right after their act, when judges were commenting on props, I kept wondering what was their prop again?

Vivian: I liked his act. In fact, his was my favorite this whole week. (Bashers: This is not a biased opinion. I am a Sanaya fan FYI). I don't know about dance, but Bhavana is a very smart choreographer. She utilizes his strength. They made a smart choice for the prop. Plus the dance he did without his prop left me somewhat shocked and I was like this guy can dance. He seemed pretty light on his feet now. He is not Siddharth Shukla of this season because I bet he will come out as a dancer by the end of his Jhalak journey, unlike Sid Shukla.

I'm not commenting on the rest as I will essentially repeat what you have said.

Judging: No one deserved 35+ except Faisal. I have noticed Laruen tends to give 10s to acts that have somewhat indian dance forms, but she barely has knowledge of it. Scarlett was obviously overscored and so was Mohit. On Sunday's episode judges were much better than Saturday's.

Edited by nine2 - 10 years ago

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Alaukik

@Alaukik

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Posted: 10 years ago

#17

Great review

I completely agree with your views.

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Resh

@SheDevil

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Posted: 10 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: nine2
Hi! A bit late this time, but nonetheless, here I am.
Like you, this week's acts were a little thanda for me as well.

Agree with you on almost everything except little parts of Sanaya's, Shamita's, Vivian's acts.

Sanaya: Like you, I liked their act. I loved Sanaya, but only liked the act. This type of act requires lots of energy and stamina as Sanaya said. Especially the part in the beginning where she is holding the treadmill and spinning her legs in a circle. She did a fabulous job and left no stone unturned in what she was given. The disappointment came from the choreography. It started out with a bang and I was expecting something more exciting to come by. The skater step was the only thing that came close to the wow thing after that. I wish Jai had utilized on a treadmill in a different way than various sliding moves from it. I like him as a person, but he fell short of my expectation as a choreographer. I really hope he pulls up his socks in both creativity and choreography.

Shamita: I liked her act. But I was too focused on them as dancers and hardly paid attention to their prop. Considering the theme was prop based, I wish the prop chosen would have captured more attention. Right after their act, when judges were commenting on props, I kept wondering what was their prop again?

Vivian: I liked his act. In fact, his was my favorite this whole week. (Bashers: This is not a biased opinion. I am a Sanaya fan FYI). I don't know about dance, but Bhavana is a very smart choreographer. She utilizes his strength. They made a smart choice for the prop. Plus the dance he did without his prop left me somewhat shocked and I was like this guy can dance. He seemed pretty light on his feet now. He is not Siddharth Shukla of this season because I bet he will come out as a dancer by the end of his Jhalak journey, unlike Sid Shukla.

I'm not commenting on the rest as I will essentially repeat what you have said.

Judging: No one deserved 35+ except Faisal. I have noticed Laruen tends to give 10s to acts that have somewhat indian dance forms, but she barely has knowledge of it. Scarlett was obviously overscored and so was Mohit. On Sunday's episode judges were much better than Saturday's.

Yesterday, I wrote big essay to post here but before I could, it got deleted and phir I felt lazy to re-type it. But bang on.. Exact my views

I think sanaya has potential but somewhere jai is not able to extract it out from sanaya though I love her energy and enthu but wow factor was missing a bit

Shamita is one of my fav contestants and I have high hopes from her..Hope she gets well soon.. Don't wnt her to quit

Vivian- I m his fan and I was there to criticize him in his last 2 acts but this week, without being biased I m saying, he was my fav after faisal(if one consider pure dancing and not prop) and if prop is included then vivian.. More thn his balance on prop his small dance sec shocked me.. I never expected that from vivian😆😆.. Like most of the ppl even I thought ki yeh sid ban kar hi na reh jaaye

PS- TM I liked ur posts. It give us ppl to discuss wid sane ppl and state their opinions.. The opinions might be different but at least they r respected here and ppl agree to disagree in civilize way.. No parliament house wala throwing jootas and chappals act here😆😆😆

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@lovely_lady

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Posted: 10 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: nine2

Shamita: I liked her act. But I was too focused on them as dancers and hardly paid attention to their prop. Considering the theme was prop based, I wish the prop chosen would have captured more attention. Right after their act, when judges were commenting on props, I kept wondering what was their prop again?

I think I kinda have to disagree with this. I personally loved the fact that instead of focusing on the prop, all the attention in their performance was directed towards the dance. JDJ is a dance show so the dancing element should be the main focus. What most of the other performers, the prop competed for attention which I didn't like.

to TM: agree with basically everything you said 😆 esp that whole bit about jhalak in motion. I honestly don't like "themes" like that. I like the themes to refer to actual dancing. I remember in earlier seasons of JDJ, you actually had contestants doing dances like jive or tango. It was more dance focused than gimmicks focused, which I feel is happening in this season (actually since JDJ moved to colours but that's another discussion 😆)

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Chaiya_Chaiya

@Chaiya_Chaiya

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Posted: 10 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: lovely_lady

I think I kinda have to disagree with this. I personally loved the fact that instead of focusing on the prop, all the attention in their performance was directed towards the dance. JDJ is a dance show so the dancing element should be the main focus. What most of the other performers, the prop competed for attention which I didn't like.

to TM: agree with basically everything you said 😆 esp that whole bit about jhalak in motion. I honestly don't like "themes" like that. I like the themes to refer to actual dancing. I remember in earlier seasons of JDJ, you actually had contestants doing dances like jive or tango. It was more dance focused than gimmicks focused, which I feel is happening in this season (actually since JDJ moved to colours but that's another discussion 😆)

I see your point. But given the theme of the show, I wanted them to have a prop or use a prop in a meaningful way in a choreography with Dance. For example, a couple of years ago someone used feather/skates as a prop, and if I recall correctly, both props were incorporated in the respected dance choreography meaningfully. Having said that, I didn't really like any of the props used except probably Vivian's and to some extent Sanaya's (would have been perfect had it was used more creatively). My view is strictly based on my interpretation of the theme of the show. And yes, I would give Faisal 10 for this theme because they crossed the "hurdles" of "motion theme" in the creative/conceptual phase of the dance whereas everyone else crossed/ attempted to cross the motion hurdle during the actual "dance" phase of the act through the use of props. Since Shamita falls in the latter category, I feel she didn't live up to the theme.

I totally agree with you on having themes based on dance forms/styles instead of prop based.

Hopefully, my view is understandable. If not, then we can just agree to disagree! :)