Pirate act deserves 30?

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Hashi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#181

Originally posted by: -Ms.Wildcherry-
@anoda&tm:Yes Indeed everyone's working hard and so is DD,its not me but you all think that DD's being given good marks due to her popularity and not because of her dancing talents and that's what my question is,why you guys are saying that her scores are only because she works for colors or she's popular?you guys just simply overlook or dont want to see that like every other contestant dd's too getting good scores due to her hardwork not because the channel is biased or dd's popular.
When you said that scores are given on the basis of dance than you should stand by your words.

@TM:Pirate Act,it was no act it was a dance,its a dance show not a daily soap.

Mallu

Hi mallu , Nice to see you here ..

No I dont think she is getting good score just that she is popular .. And I dont think I have ever said that ..What I suspect is she was getting undeserving marks because Channel wants het to win as she is working for the same chanel .. Again its not because she is popular.. and there were few acts she didnt perform worth enough for the received marks .. The most reent one is the Pirates act .. and there were few ..even before (ex: independance day,bamboo act, birds act and few more ) there were few timse she got deserving marks too and few times she got lesser marks that she really deserves too .. I am not saying that she doesnt work hard she is .. and she is not a dab dancer .. She has the capacity and some of her dance were so beautiful .. ex: saturday marathon act ,madhuri act,Halkat jawani ..and some more ..

There is no standard for marking thats really sad .. some of DDs 24 acts were better than some of her 30 acts .. and so I am not going to compare with others ..

and DD is not the only one who got undeserving scores ..time to time others also got .. specially kids .. But for DD the pattern of scores is just so common as past winners .. ..

And mallu , For me i didnt see any dance in pirates act (sorry dear cant use the word dance) there were few steps . If you felt it was a good dance performance then i cant change your view but i respect yours .. But this is what I have felt ..

Ps: I think she could have done better in this season as she got the enough talent ..But unfortunately salman didnt utilize them and he played safe .. but as a viewer I always enjoyed her true dancing performances . rather the acts filled with gimmicks.. but alas we got very few of them ...

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Hashi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#182

Originally posted by: enigmatic_zephy

The point is...a 27 act of DD's gets 30 ( now 27 for us normal viewers is quite high..so when we say she cud get 27 we are appreciating her...but what we do not agree is on 30...and most of the fans before thinking start jumping on the fact that why did we say she shudnt get 30..but don't bother to see that we also said she might have deserved a 27)

and a 30 act gets 24...(if contestant is not DD..and kids) 😆.. and then most of the fans think that 24 is ok because judges are mature and unbiased..

ab is logic ko samajhne mein hamein bahut hard work karna pada hai..our body started to give up..with all the brain storming..aur phir is logic ke blatant loop holes samjhane mein aur mehnat ho jaati hai... bahut mehnat ki hai humne 😆

( don't take offence..but hope u get the drift.. what is the real argument here..it is not that DD got good marks lets bash..and if you or nayone else thinks so..then I will repeat myself..selective reading and selective understanding on their part)😉

I always love your replys .. so comprehensive.. wish i also can write like this

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Hashi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#183

Originally posted by: sheeba_hasan
Oh come on! EVERY CONTESTANT on this show has been over scored and under scored so many times! Even Lauren s performances sometimes, though amazing, but did not deserve full marks!!! Case in point - Michael Jackson act! And some more.
Even shaan and even the kids have been awarded 30s so many times even when it was not perfect!
And so is the case with DD. But because it's drashti and we all know how popular she is, ppl are not able to swallow it! Especially the rival fan base coz they know she's the biggest threat to all the contestants!!!
This so reminds me of last years hue n cry over GC winning and getting 30s!!
Honestly this kinda topic is done to death! Aren't u guys bored already?? ;)

well I have replied to many as yours .. so cant be bothered to repeat the same ..How can we get bored when we get replies from ppl like u 😳

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Phosphorus

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Posted: 12 years ago

#184

Originally posted by: -Ms.Wildcherry-
@anoda&tm:Yes Indeed everyone's working hard and so is DD,its not me but you all think that DD's being given good marks due to her popularity and not because of her dancing talents and that's what my question is,why you guys are saying that her scores are only because she works for colors or she's popular?you guys just simply overlook or dont want to see that like every other contestant dd's too getting good scores due to her hardwork not because the channel is biased or dd's popular.
When you said that scores are given on the basis of dance than you should stand by your words.

@TM:Pirate Act,it was no act it was a dance,its a dance show not a daily soap.

Mallu

Sorry for butting in but would like add my two cents here.
Well DD is not getting marks for her popularity...I didn't see anyone saying that ! She is working hard just like every other celeb. Nobody is denying that either !
But the fact that, she's scoring more than what she what deserves is irking the members including us who're not DD supporters, rather say neutral. Even many DD fans accepted that the Pirate act of hers did not deserve 30 whatsoever .

@ bold, the last time I checked, a contestant gets good score bcoz of his GOOD performance NOT hardwork !

Now let me tell why we think Colors is favoring her. Why should not they? She is Colors' face ! She doing well/ winning the trophy means more publicity for her show which ultimately would result in Colors' favor ! It's amusing, some DD fans just deny to see this simple thing ! And do you believe all the reality shows are fair? Come on they are RIGGED ! Each of the them ! Why should Colors be a difference? 😕

Had she obtained those perfect 30s actually by dancing well, nobody would have raised a question ! But she's pretty average as a dancer...and her most acts are anything but worthy of 30 !

I don't mind DD fans supporting her but before calling others haterz, bashers , try to see things in a neutral manner !

No offense meant !!! 😊

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sheeba_hasan

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Posted: 12 years ago

#185

Originally posted by: HashiBoo

well I have replied to many as yours .. so cant be bothered to repeat the same ..How can we get bored when we get replies from ppl like u😳

Oh I'm sorry! Pls don't take the trouble! You see, unlike you, I don't have the spare time to go through pages and pages of replies and counter replies over an excessively repeated topic. So ya, I just read the topic and wrote my view. Why bother to reply at all in that case?
Peace out!

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enigmatic_zephy

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Posted: 12 years ago

#186

Originally posted by: sheeba_hasan
Oh come on! EVERY CONTESTANT on this show has been over scored and under scored so many times! Even Lauren s performances sometimes, though amazing, but did not deserve full marks!!! Case in point - Michael Jackson act! And some more.
Even shaan and even the kids have been awarded 30s so many times even when it was not perfect!
And so is the case with DD. But because it's drashti and we all know how popular she is, ppl are not able to swallow it! Especially the rival fan base coz they know she's the biggest threat to all the contestants!!!
This so reminds me of last years hue n cry over GC winning and getting 30s!!
Honestly this kinda topic is done to death! Aren't u guys bored already?? ;)

Precisely, lauren's act has been overscored sometimes and underscred sometimes...balance to hai at some level..

some other contestants have a monotonically rising graph of undeserving marks

On GC..well some people do not stand for cheating and corruption...hope that answers your question

Edited by enigmatic_zephy - 12 years ago

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sheeba_hasan

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Posted: 12 years ago

#187

Originally posted by: enigmatic_zephy

Precisely, lauren's act has been overscored sometimes and underscred sometimes...balance to hai at some level..

some other contestants have a monotonically rising graph of undeserving marks

On GC..well some people do not stand for cheating and corruption...hope that answers your question

That's a very convenient way of looking at it. Are you trying to say DD has always been over scored? That sounds a completely prejudiced statement to me. Honestly, drashti s journey reminds me of Mona Singh in the first season. There's no doubt that she has shown tremendous growth. Mona was also extremely popular and that time ppl were saying shveta is more deserving coz she was a better dancer, which was true. But Mona won coz she was totally non trained dancer, who started from scratch, learned new forma in days, worked really hard, showed awesome growth and won the hearts of people!
There's a reason why audience is allowed to vote in such formats right?
If this were a show for just technically correct dancers then they would'nt have a say at all. So the performances need to impress and connect with the 'Aam Junta' as well!
Also I will tell u something.. When u see a performance live - the impact is far more than what you see on tv. This is probably the reason why this pirate act got the 30! Maybe on tv we didn't find it that impact ful but I can imagine how awesome this would ve looked live - hence the 30 maybe.

As for GC - I really don't know what u meant but he also won last season coz of his popularity and his growth as a dancer on the show. He was the face of a rival channel that time and competing with the face of colors (rashmi) still he won! Coz he had an amazing fan base! And he improved tremendously!

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Sunsetglow

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Posted: 12 years ago

#188

How ironic is that?? People complain that if a person say anything against their favorite, they are called hater/Basher... but the same people call every other person who either support or talk positive about a contestant, Biased/crazy fans/fannimal and what not??

Coming to topic...i don't comment much..for obvious reasons...but i am taking my chance here..! As a online viewer, the act didn't look perfect as it should be...the grandness, the concept, the confidence was pretty awesome...but there were some obvious mistakes..! But as the person who commented above pointed out...imagine watching such an act live before you...it was definitely an edge of the seat performance...as viewer we are able to find faults and crucify every little faults in an act...but when you are watching it live..the sheer grandness of the act and difficulty level will consume you..!! and that's why the act got a 30..! and i have always noticed that when performance is done in a grand scale..it is always scored high..! one of my favourite DD performance was "jeene lago hoo.." which got only a 24..shocking...but believable...coz it was very simple...and that effect was missing..!

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enigmatic_zephy

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Posted: 12 years ago

#189

Originally posted by: sheeba_hasan

That's a very convenient way of looking at it. Are you trying to say DD has always been over scored?

% wise yes, she and the kids

That sounds a completely prejudiced statement to me.

Facts are never prejudiced..can't be..thats an oxymoron

Honestly, drashti s journey reminds me of Mona Singh in the first season. There's no doubt that she has shown tremendous growth. Mona was also extremely popular and that time ppl were saying shveta is more deserving coz she was a better dancer, which was true. But Mona won coz she was totally non trained dancer, who started from scratch, learned new forma in days, worked really hard, showed awesome growth and won the hearts of people!

I hope you also recall how much variety Mona showed compared to the contestant you are focussing on ( you chose to limit your views to one hence I am forced to argue with that as baseline)

There's a reason why audience is allowed to vote in such formats right?

Yes, because they bring in money...majority is not always right specially if it is driven by emotions and not what is right or logice or pragmatism..

If this were a show for just technically correct dancers then they would'nt have a say at all. So the performances need to impress and connect with the 'Aam Junta' as well!

lol..if its a dance show, its a dance show..

here's a thing, if you want to make it abt popularity fine, then account for it by her votes..let's assume she is getting mazimum votes..so that takes care of your point..that she connected with junta and junta is voting for her..now come to my logic..this show is also about dance..

however, in spite of technical flaws..the dances are mostly overscored...and its not that she is overscored..but others are underscored conscientiously to ensure she is on the top of the score table..cause only then they can ensure she never comes in the face off...

So, now tell me why is it right and justified that her dances be scored and be given extra benefit over others..

On your trained vs untrained..by that logic..Sid shud have been getting 30 and deserves to win this title...the man had severe constraints and he worked really hard to overcome those..and he is the ONLY ONE who is truly untrained in all respects...

Also I will tell u something.. When u see a performance live - the impact is far more than what you see on tv. This is probably the reason why this pirate act got the 30! Maybe on tv we didn't find it that impact ful but I can imagine how awesome this would ve looked live - hence the 30 maybe.

I am not and haven't commented on the pirate dance and will not. I didn't watch it. To your point here, its valid and for audience there i can totally buy this argument..but judges are judges for a reason..they are not mere audience...so all through this series..their behavior and judgement and motivation is totally questionable

As for GC - I really don't know what u meant but he also won last season coz of his popularity and his growth as a dancer on the show.

a) He was not as good as others and initial weeks i agree...he tried and he got good marks..theory of relativity..but later on he started faltering big time..

However, I will credit him for one thing compared to DD...shampa atleast tried some new stuff with him..DD zilch growth..zero..

However, as a dancer he was bad compared to others..

b) Go back to your trained Vs untrained dancer logic- he repeated martial arts based dances multiple times..a trianed martial arts man repeating what he knows..how is it justified that a trained dancer won?

c) Towards the end, the quality of dance didn't improve ( except for the zero gravity dance..that as a concept was good so inspite of flaws i think that act getting high marks was fine)..but other acts did not deserve such high marks...however, with GC i completely agree with you that voting and fans are a big reason and the fact that the season had the worst contestants ever...colors did not have much role there...he got 18 too once..which DD wud never get no matter how bad she performs...with him the question is more on fans...

if celebrity love outweighs standing for what is right..

He was the face of a rival channel that time and competing with the face of colors (rashmi) still he won! Coz he had an amazing fan base! And he improved tremendously!

Get the facts rt...rashmi was no more face of colors..she wasn't... pratyusha was..who quit so colors was helpless..and neither was rashmi in pipeline to make the comeback around that time..

anyhow my opinion colors didn't interefere much last yr once pratyusha was out...people were getting 18 etc etc..their only and biggest role was supporting remo in promoting his candidates and ofcourse the deal with Isha..how she will make her exit..

Nevertheless...just for Isha...that season has had some of the best performances ever..and it wasn't all salman..although not taking away from his efforts either..but it was just not 100% salman..she said that many a times abt her creative inputs

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anodaksgfan

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Posted: 12 years ago

#190

Originally posted by: -Ms.Wildcherry-
@anoda&tm:Yes Indeed everyone's working hard and so is DD,its not me but you all think that DD's being given good marks due to her popularity and not because of her dancing talents and that's what my question is,why you guys are saying that her scores are only because she works for colors or she's popular?you guys just simply overlook or dont want to see that like every other contestant dd's too getting good scores due to her hardwork not because the channel is biased or dd's popular.
When you said that scores are given on the basis of dance than you should stand by your words.

@TM:Pirate Act,it was no act it was a dance,its a dance show not a daily soap.

Mallu

see dats ur way of quoting it...

Neither lauren is my relative nor shaan my brother and nor d kids r my children..

so whenever anyone has got undeserving marks..ive spoken against it..(put my view)

Jhalak dikhlaja is not about working hard..

its what u put up in d end..

and in my opinion her act didnt deserve a 30 yesterday..

and as my friends here say..even kids have got undeseved 30s at times..

and dear its not a single episode which has proved that THEY ARE BIASED...

u agree or not..totally on u..

d whole season has screamed drashti aloud..

and u somewhere need to understand dat some ppl out here really r not hardcore fans of any contestant..

they give their views 'not overlooking' anything...