sushant didn't derserve 30. - Page 7

Originally posted by: tiya229

its okay to critise the dance in itself. but i would ask the forum members to leave it at that. to take the discussion to a personal level, and cheapen the emotions by questioning it is unfair. please remember, this person has lost his mother,

tommorow if a student did a debate or a gave a speech about the wonders of his mom who passed away, will anyone question it " did he give the speech to gain brownie points?".

if so, what has the world come to, and what have we become?

So true....no one's asking to make this an "all praise" session hailing Sushant all the time....I can see some valid points in here about his dancing technique mentioned by some ppl....fair enough....but to actually accuse him of exploiting the loss of his mother for an emotional angle?? When I read stuff like this, THAT is when I start to wonder what society is really coming to....I see vested interests at work then where ppl will pull out any kind of blind vicious "discussion point" just to paint Sushant in the worst light possible without any basis.....and I can clearly see signs of how these "balanced" viewpoints don't seem to apply to certain ppl's own favorites when it comes to judging THEIR dancing.....

But I wonder why I'm bothering saying this much also.....as is the usual norm in this forum.....as a Sushant/Ankita fan, I will be ridiculed and my opinion will have no worth since apparently I'm a "blind fangirl"😆

This forum needs some troll control.

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Mother is someone very very special , no one would use their mother this way to gain points ...

I too lost my mother 4 years ago , Sushant's performance bought tears in my eyes ...

It is a loss that can be felt by those who have gone through it ...would never wish it on my worst enemy ..

That boy was not exploiting his grief at all , he was giving tribute to his mother and that is a very very natural thing ..When someone as close as your mother leaves you , you always wan tto hold on to her in whatever way you can and that is what he was doing .I find it very nice the way he always gives tribute to his mother in his own way ..

aww..I am so sorry to hear abt yr mom.Being a mom myself,I can completely understand yr pain.

@Chitsji:

Originally posted by: nureat01

So true....no one's asking to make this an "all praise" session hailing Sushant all the time....I can see some valid points in here about his dancing technique mentioned by some ppl....fair enough....but to actually accuse him of exploiting the loss of his mother for an emotional angle?? When I read stuff like this, THAT is when I start to wonder what society is really coming to....I see vested interests at work then where ppl will pull out any kind of blind vicious "discussion point" just to paint Sushant in the worst light possible without any basis.....and I can clearly see signs of how these "balanced" viewpoints don't seem to apply to certain ppl's own favorites when it comes to judging THEIR dancing.....

But I wonder why I'm bothering saying this much also.....as is the usual norm in this forum.....as a Sushant/Ankita fan, I will be ridiculed and my opinion will have no worth since apparently I'm a "blind fangirl"😆

This forum needs some troll control.

Originally posted by: krait

i think you are being little rude to him.... i don't find a reason why he needs to do all those things.. he is an excellent dancer.. best in this season and judges are already impressed with him he does not have to do emotional atyachaar on judges to impress them all he needs to do is dance well which he does...

i m not a sushant fan i m saying this as a neutral viewer

well i can't think of any other reason for him to choose such a theme despite hurting him so much! i don't know if it was his idea or not. i can't imagine someone doing it with his/her mom either. it's his mom after all. but it felt like someone had this idea. whether they did or not is not the point. i just felt it was used and so i didn't like it and felt sorta repulsed. again, just my opinion. i believed i had a right to express that and so i did.

Originally posted by: nureat01

So true....no one's asking to make this an "all praise" session hailing Sushant all the time....I can see some valid points in here about his dancing technique mentioned by some ppl....fair enough....but to actually accuse him of exploiting the loss of his mother for an emotional angle?? When I read stuff like this, THAT is when I start to wonder what society is really coming to....I see vested interests at work then where ppl will pull out any kind of blind vicious "discussion point" just to paint Sushant in the worst light possible without any basis.....and I can clearly see signs of how these "balanced" viewpoints don't seem to apply to certain ppl's own favorites when it comes to judging THEIR dancing.....

But I wonder why I'm bothering saying this much also.....as is the usual norm in this forum.....as a Sushant/Ankita fan, I will be ridiculed and my opinion will have no worth since apparently I'm a "blind fangirl"😆

This forum needs some troll control.

Anu, WORDDDDD!
I see people who point put mistake and talk about dancing technicality hardly in forum talking about performance instead I see them coming only when some thing bad is said about Sushant/Ankita. If any one people come to say this not is correct about Sushant/Ankita then I see we getting labelled as obsessed fans.

@Bold: This forum surely need,but I see no mod in forum as people will be busy pleasing some fans who will using report button all the time. 🥱

Originally posted by: Rapier

well i can't think of any other reason for him to choose such a theme despite hurting him so much! i don't know if it was his idea or not. i can't imagine someone doing it with his/her mom either. it's his mom after all. but it felt like someone had this idea. whether they did or not is not the point. i just felt it was used and so i didn't like it and felt sorta repulsed. again, just my opinion. i believed i had a right to express that and so i did.

of course you have every right to express your opinion... may be Shampa wanted to do an act on mother son relationship so he did it....quite possible...actually none of us know why he choose that theme so why not give him benefit of doubt...

I don't think saying that someone did not deserve a 30 necessarily means that you are anti-someone. It simply means that someone feels they did not deserve a 30. Its English, not spy crypt.

Being a fan should not mean that a star is infallible and they should always be number one. You can disagree with the star sometimes. Even a Madonna or JT fan can admit that 4 minutes was a crap song. Even BEP fans can admit that the Superbowl halftime show was horrifying.

If someone genuinely feels that the performance is good and fully deserving of the highest accolades then thats perfectly fine. Simply explain why and disagree. If someone genuinely feels that the performance was not as good and should have got a lesser score then thats fine too, simply explain why and agree.

This discussion should be about dance, choreography, performance, technique, execution and yes the expression/emotion of the dance. This discussion should not be about a star, love/hate relationship with the star, personal life and all that jazz being peppered in. Liking/disliking someone should not blind ones judgment on their capacities.

Anyway, I personally don't follow shows so dont have a preferred celeb. I've grown to like and support Sushant and Yana. Coming to the performance I have seen Sushant do much better. I think he can do better. In fact the dance did not compare to some of his other thirties. This late in the season he should be doing better than his previous thirties, not less than. A thirty for less than is too lenient. A slightly lesser score would be fairer and competitive.

That being said, I wanted to add a random side note. Expressing love, relationships, loss, death, darkness etc does not always have to be heartbreaking, tearful, or dramatic. The beauty of the arts is there are many different aesthetic ways to express the same emotions or sometimes even reshape the emotions itself.

Here is what I feel is another fine example expressing the loss of a mother. It does not make you cry, but makes you think. It puts death and loss in a whole new dark-philosophy expression.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LRb4C-3tJQ[/YOUTUBE]

This is also a great example of groW*H and maturity as artistes. When some of the kiddos here today were running around in diapers or sucking on bottles - I and some others here were probably teenagers going crazy "OMG AQUA!!! ZOMFG Barbie Girl is awesome!!! Such a sexy man voice". They had great bubblegum pop - all dance fluff - Barbie Girl, Doctor Jones, My Oh My. I loved them then, had all their songs on audio cassettes. But I would have been bleh if they came back with the same old bouncy pop. We have Ke$ha and a dozen truckloads of glitter and Jack for that nowadays.

They still have electronic rhythms, they still have beats, but they grew up as a band, matured and made their music much better than it was - lyrically, visually, aesthetically - all ways.

Being a fan is never settling, never wanting the same thing, but expecting artistes to grow - to show what they can do next. Not rely on the same dramatic effects - but do things different. But then....I'm rambling off topic. Its I guess not just being a fan....but growing up.

Originally posted by: krait

of course you have every right to express your opinion... may be Shampa wanted to do an act on mother son relationship so he did it....quite possible...actually none of us know why he choose that theme so why not give him benefit of doubt...

so ur saying it was a "coincidence" that he had to do this act? and he just happened to get a mother-son relationship? now i can't believe that. someone deliberately assigned this act to sushant. whether it was shampa, sony, or sushant himself, i do not know. but it surely wasn't a coincidence or fate. and i am willing to give him the benefit of doubt, cuz as i said, it was his mother. but saying that shampa just happened to have wanted to do a mother-son act is not correct.