WHO IS A THIEF BTW MALIKA AND JESSI? - Page 4

u can't STEAL someone

u can't help who u fall in love with

Originally posted by: nasshuu

I THINK MALIKA IS RIGHT TOCALL JESSI A THIEF. JESSI WANT TO STOLE ARMAAN FROM THE HAND OF MALIKA. SHE EVEN BREAK THE MARRIAGE OF MALIKA AND ARMAAN. JESSI IDENTITY IS NOT GOOD TO FOLLOW AS T&D THINK. JESSI IS READY TO BREAK THE HEART OF SOMEONE TO WIN HER HEART.

SHE IS A THIEF HOW CAN YOU LOVE SOME ONE WHO HAS ALREADY ANGAGE AND ON LOVELY FRIENDSHIP (MALIKA AND ARMAN BEFORE) YES YOU CAN LOVE BUT ATLEAST RESPECT THE OTHER FRIENDSHIP....!!!

IF YOU LOVE THE ONE WHO HAS ALREADY CHOOSE THE ONE TO LOVE PLS LEAVE AND FIND ANOTHER ONE DONT STAND THERE TO BREAK SOMEONE FRIENDSHIP AS JESSI DONE TO MALIKA.

WHAT DO U THINK GUYS.?

aahh..............maybe you missed a dozen discussions we have had on similar issue. anyways, i agree with you that jjkn does not put jassi in very good light...it makes jassi look like hypocritical fool who is very weak and stubborn. in fact only two people look good on the show and they are nandu and purab .

now for the issue of jassi-mallika-armaan triangle....it all depends on how far you are ready to accept a transgression in the name of love. if you are one of those people who believe that love is everything than jassi is right and armaan justified, if you are one of those people who think that commitments and duties rate higher than feelings of love,then nothing about the triangle is justified. in short it depends on your priorities in personal life and is a very individualistic choice.

i would like to mention at this point that indian directors are obsessed with the idea of true and first love. strangely even in the remakes of hollywood hits, the ending is changed to reflect this idealogy.the most recent example is the remake of my best friends wedding. rarely has the anguish of the third innocent person caught up in the lead 's love saga been shown in the movies/shows(unless we are talking of an ekta show).if you imagine yourself in that person's shoes , you will realize the amount of betrayal one feels(imagine you are hapilly dreaming and preparing for your impending nupitals until you realise in nick of time your fiancee/fiance has been in love with someone else all along and was just taking you around for a ride, imagine the embarassment,you and your family faces in front of society because of weakness/stupidity of a third person.....it is bound to make you very bitter and vengeful).on the other hand if your fiance is gonna be stuck in his past forever...you might want to escape the dreary future even at very high cost to yourself and your family.

i see one member has posted a list of such hit movies

srk broke kajol-salman's marriage (kkhh)

salman was shown to be taken aback but accepts it more in terms of face saving.

srk broke juhi-aditya's marrige (yess boss)

aditya was already married , all he was interested was in having an affair with juhi, he even tries to pass off juhi as srk's wife on many occasions so actually srk rescues juhi from aditya's clutches.

srk broke mahima-apoorva's marrige (pardes)

apoorve had very different notions than mahima's , it was that difference that broke them apart actually not a love affair with srk. she marries and devlop feelings for her friend srk after the breakup.

srk broke madhuri-akshay's marrige (dil to pagal hai)

once again ahshay is shown to be taken aback but accept the fate and sacrifice

srk broke preity's marriage (veer zaara)

aaahhh....it was wrong of srk to propose to an engaged almost married women. preity's husband does have his revenge eventually. this movie is a classic example of how love destroys several lives. it destroyed srk(imagine how many lives he could have saved as rescue pilot in those 20 years that he spend in a prison), preity(she would have entered political arena with her husband and brought about many reforms for women in all those years that she spent alone wasting away after srk), preity's husband(he might have been a reformative politician, instead he moves abroad probably trying to save his face), srk'family(poor uncle and aunt, after bringing up an orphan as thier son and thier lifeline, they died old alone and sad broken by thier son's apparent death),preity's family (once the celebrated , respected and powerful family went under a complete ruins, thanks to thier daughter's love for a foreigner, she fell in love with in a mere 36 hours).

so pj are you supporting what i have said or are you debating?😕

i am niether supporting nor opposing.....as i said it is individualistic choice. personally i rate commitment much higher than love and oppose breaking up of engagement/marraiges solely on the notion of love, hence i find jassi's obsession with armaan both wrong and ridiculous. as for srk movies....as i pointed out (only three out of five had similar scenerios). in that also while on superflous level srk may seem justified, if you dig deeper and factor in the third person's feelings, you will not feel so pleased about the end.

PJ04,

I see what you are saying and I agree that our opinions and outlooks are very individual, but first off, I don't think indian directors are obsessed with the idea of first and true love and in fact I have found JJKN to be a breath of fresh air...one girl doesn't fall in love 10 different times and marry 10 different times. Jassi was willing to marry Purab even though she didn't love him, it was Purab who took off and why, because he knew she loved Armaan and it would have ruined both of their lives. So even Purab takes into consideration that love is quite an integral part of a relationship.

If you take a look at the Ekta serials...people marry 10 different times and most times one doesn't love the other and look how miserable they are. They are always crying...how much happier are they?

I do think that directors are obsessed with the idea of love, cuz love stories sell. "My Best Friend's Wedding" was such a flop of a movie, why because, the heroine doesn't get her hero in the end...I didn't go to see the movie so that the heroine doesn't get her hero at the end of the movie. I see this everyday in real life, so why would I want to go see a movie about it. Aside from 'My Best Friends Wedding,' directors don't really want to tread this water and I find this idea so 1950s. Yes, of course this is my individual thinking.

I don't see if Armaan has broken his relationship with Mallika, why he still has to be committed to her? Why is there even the question about importance being placed on committment and duties?? For what end? Armaan's character has grown and changed on the show, thus it is not really anymore about love is everything so this means Jassi and Armaan have to be together. I think they are the ones who deserve it though, they are the central characters afterall and this the whole point of the show. In my individual opinion this is why I watch the show.

I like love...there is no feeling like love...it makes one beautiful and it makes us better people. I think love should be an integral part of a relationship and I don't think love destroys lives. I am a classic example, I fell in love with my husband and he is the most wonderful person, we didn't ruin other people's lives when we got married, if fact we created new bonds. My inlaws love me and my parents dote on my husband. Love stories make the world go round and stir emotions in people. This view on love and how destructive it can be is really sad.

Finally, I agree that Nandu has a good character on the show...Nandu is funny, caring, smart, supportive...he has different shades and he has grown as a character. But Purab...he has no character...literally, he is portrayed as what??? I mean I really don't know. He has not grown as a character on the show...he was brought back by popular demand, but he doesn't offer anything substantial to the show and he never has. He is a good guy and that is it...that is the extent of his character.

To answer, Nashuu's question, the biggest thief is Mallika, cuz she stole Gulmohour's money and stole the integrity of the Walia family. Her actions are not justifiable as she could have dealt with the situation in a more adult fashion.

wow, i will throw up if i see soo muchw riting, sry, no big writing for me. by the way, i didn't read what you guys said, all i read was the topic, and i..... support. agreed. although if you want to steal someone, it takes a while until you actually win their trust, once you win their trust, no matter what crime you do, they will always have faith in you, even if they act that you've done something wrong. but, it is love....like armaan and purab do, along with bebe, and amrit and nandu, along with papaji(he still luvs his daughter very much inside)

Originally posted by: pj04

aahh..............maybe you missed a dozen discussions we have had on similar issue. anyways, i agree with you that jjkn does not put jassi in very good light...it makes jassi look like hypocritical fool who is very weak and stubborn. in fact only two people look good on the show and they are nandu and purab.

now for the issue of jassi-mallika-armaan triangle....it all depends on how far you are ready to accept a transgression in the name of love. if you are one of those people who believe that love is everything than jassi is right and armaan justified, if you are one of those people who think that commitments and duties rate higher than feelings of love,then nothing about the triangle is justified. in short it depends on your priorities in personal life and is a very individualistic choice.

i would like to mention at this point that indian directors are obsessed with the idea of true and first love. strangely even in the remakes of hollywood hits, the ending is changed to reflect this idealogy.the most recent example is the remake of my best friends wedding. rarely has the anguish of the third innocent person caught up in the lead 's love saga been shown in the movies/shows(unless we are talking of an ekta show).if you imagine yourself in that person's shoes , you will realize the amount of betrayal one feels(imagine you are hapilly dreaming and preparing for your impending nupitals until you realise in nick of time your fiancee/fiance has been in love with someone else all along and was just taking you around for a ride, imagine the embarassment,you and your family faces in front of society because of weakness/stupidity of a third person.....it is bound to make you very bitter and vengeful).on the other hand if your fiance is gonna be stuck in his past forever...you might want to escape the dreary future even at very high cost to yourself and your family.

i see one member has posted a list of such hit movies

srk broke kajol-salman's marriage (kkhh)

salman was shown to be taken aback but accepts it more in terms of face saving.

srk broke juhi-aditya's marrige (yess boss)

aditya was already married , all he was interested was in having an affair with juhi, he even tries to pass off juhi as srk's wife on many occasions so actually srk rescues juhi from aditya's clutches.

srk broke mahima-apoorva's marrige (pardes)

apoorve had very different notions than mahima's , it was that difference that broke them apart actually not a love affair with srk. she marries and devlop feelings for her friend srk after the breakup.

srk broke madhuri-akshay's marrige (dil to pagal hai)

once again ahshay is shown to be taken aback but accept the fate and sacrifice

srk broke preity's marriage (veer zaara)

aaahhh....it was wrong of srk to propose to an engaged almost married women. preity's husband does have his revenge eventually. this movie is a classic example of how love destroys several lives. it destroyed srk(imagine how many lives he could have saved as rescue pilot in those 20 years that he spend in a prison), preity(she would have entered political arena with her husband and brought about many reforms for women in all those years that she spent alone wasting away after srk), preity's husband(he might have been a reformative politician, instead he moves abroad probably trying to save his face), srk'family(poor uncle and aunt, after bringing up an orphan as thier son and thier lifeline, they died old alone and sad broken by thier son's apparent death),preity's family (once the celebrated , respected and powerful family went under a complete ruins, thanks to thier daughter's love for a foreigner, she fell in love with in a mere 36 hours).

PJ don't know what to say!!! You are just awesome, love the way you looks at all different prospective and not only one.. love the way you explain things and make me believe taht what you said is right... if you were a guy I would propose you right away! 😉 and forget Purab!! and ofcourse, my hubby dear too! 😉

ok no u all rong jassi didnt do anything its not her fault that armaan never loved malika she should of realized wat type a guy he was and before jassi left she told malika that he was playing games with u and me watever u guys are crazy and ryte now malika took the money from the account and put it in jassi's account and on top of that armaan did everything but malika is still blaming jassi. She's just jealous of the fact that armaan is in love with jassi the ugly girl instead of her the successsful one

Originally posted by: jprasad

PJ04,

I see what you are saying and I agree that our opinions and outlooks are very individual, but first off, I don't think indian directors are obsessed with the idea of first and true love and in fact I have found JJKN to be a breath of fresh air...one girl doesn't fall in love 10 different times and marry 10 different times. Jassi was willing to marry Purab even though she didn't love him, it was Purab who took off and why, because he knew she loved Armaan and it would have ruined both of their lives. So even Purab takes into consideration that love is quite an integral part of a relationship.

If you take a look at the Ekta serials...people marry 10 different times and most times one doesn't love the other and look how miserable they are. They are always crying...how much happier are they?

I do think that directors are obsessed with the idea of love, cuz love stories sell. "My Best Friend's Wedding" was such a flop of a movie, why because, the heroine doesn't get her hero in the end...I didn't go to see the movie so that the heroine doesn't get her hero at the end of the movie. I see this everyday in real life, so why would I want to go see a movie about it. Aside from 'My Best Friends Wedding,' directors don't really want to tread this water and I find this idea so 1950s. Yes, of course this is my individual thinking.

I don't see if Armaan has broken his relationship with Mallika, why he still has to be committed to her? Why is there even the question about importance being placed on committment and duties?? For what end? Armaan's character has grown and changed on the show, thus it is not really anymore about love is everything so this means Jassi and Armaan have to be together. I think they are the ones who deserve it though, they are the central characters afterall and this the whole point of the show. In my individual opinion this is why I watch the show.

I like love...there is no feeling like love...it makes one beautiful and it makes us better people. I think love should be an integral part of a relationship and I don't think love destroys lives. I am a classic example, I fell in love with my husband and he is the most wonderful person, we didn't ruin other people's lives when we got married, if fact we created new bonds. My inlaws love me and my parents dote on my husband. Love stories make the world go round and stir emotions in people. This view on love and how destructive it can be is really sad.

Finally, I agree that Nandu has a good character on the show...Nandu is funny, caring, smart, supportive...he has different shades and he has grown as a character. But Purab...he has no character...literally, he is portrayed as what??? I mean I really don't know. He has not grown as a character on the show...he was brought back by popular demand, but he doesn't offer anything substantial to the show and he never has. He is a good guy and that is it...that is the extent of his character.

To answer, Nashuu's question, the biggest thief is Mallika, cuz she stole Gulmohour's money and stole the integrity of the Walia family. Her actions are not justifiable as she could have dealt with the situation in a more adult fashion.

phew....jprasad you might be right but why compare everything to ekta shows and point out the many marraige thing in her shows(incidentally i don't think you have ever seen any ekta show for long otherwise you would have realised that multiple marraiges are the result of following your heart in love most of the times , hence very wrong example to make your point)

nobody is denying that love is important and necessary in life , i only have a problem with people running beserk after this dream trampling over everyone else in thier path. mine was an arranged marraige(i met him for mere 15 min before i got married to him), if i ever fall in love, should i just ditch everybody and run behind my dreams ??....it is quite a conundrum . circumstances and your personality determines your course of action.

as for my best friends wedding ...you made the point i was trying to convey.(I didn't go to see the movie so that the heroine doesn't get her hero at the end of the movie. I see this everyday in real life, so why would I want to go see a movie about it.)...truth does not sell, dream does. also we see movies to live a dream not experience the truth. but truth is what was the end of that movie

as for armaan -mallika - jassi triangle, i guess we will always be on different apexes.as for love being destructive, i think love is a very strong force and can be very constructive until you control it, once it controls you ....you are on path to destruction. let us just say it has a way of overwhelming people and taking over thier lives.i can quote examples from ancient history to modern times when love has been at its destructive best. it has been downfall of many great civilizations and kingdoms. however you will be hard pressed to find some similar examples of its constructive powers.

Wow !!! Great points jprasad and Puja !!!!!

I agree,both of you are justified in your own way.

As I see it, Jassi was not the cause behind Armaan and Mallika's break up.She was a mere excuse for the break up.

The truth is, Armaan and Mallika never ever jelled together. It was the difference in their perspective about a relationship that broke them apart.Mallika's overpossesiveness and Armaan's need to keep hanging on to her for the sake of Gulmohar - for a very well founded fear that Aryan would sell his shares and split GM into two- was the main reason they both got together in the first place. There was hardly any commitment or duty involved in either case,unless if you count Armaan's commitment towards GM and Mallika's commitment to keep him tied to her in this. Love never even featured. Mallika dangled her vote and support in return of marriage and Armaan kept her happy ,first to keep his chair,then to keep GM in one piece.

Here, Jassi does not even come into the picture. Mallika never truly had Armaan. Even if Jassi was not around, this is one pair who would not have survived their honeymoon,making both and everyone else's lives around them miserable, that is,if they ever got to the mandap at all.

Mallika should be thankful to Jassi that Armman changed.

Besides,what should Jassi be blamed for?

a) She never invited Armaan to fall for her. He was her fantasy and she never had any notions about realising her dreams.

b) She did not,even once, ask him to break up with Mallika. Even when he was wooing her and she was unaware that it was fake, she asked him to go to Mallika.In fact that too was one of the reasons she agreed to marry Purab.

c) When she did ask him to break up,it was because she was sure he was faking it and she wanted him to be in a tight spot and reveal his duality. She was convinced he would never do it. She had no idea how close Armaan actualy came to doing it. She never came to know.

d) She had made the fake balance sheets and then decided to resign and go away so that Armaan could marry Mallika. Next day she overheard pieces of conversation between Raj and Armaan in which Raj asked him not to break up with Mallika becuz Aryan would sell GM and instead send Jassi away,that she decided to expose them. Even after all that she was leaving GM quietly. It was Mallika's meanness who, defying all the ettiquets that goes in not peeping into other people's belongings, demanded to see Jassi's trash bag. What she got out of them was what she deserved.

Not once did Mallika,as a woman, feel for another woman who was cheated in such a fashion. She blamed Jassi but not once she did she question Armaan how could he do this to another woman? Jassi had bared her soul to Mallika when she was leaving. Told her it was all a fake and Armaan was hers. Yet Mallika's insane obsession with Armaan meant she had to take it out on the girl who was the victim. I don't think I can empathise with a character who tramples the less fortunate and flaunts it as a trophy !!

Would you support Armaan or Purab if they destroyed other people deliberately in order to get Jassi and say they are justified? I would not. No,not even Armaan. Would you support Armaan if he tried to destroy Purab in case thhe latter gets married to Jassi because he wants to get her back? Would you be able to supposrt Purab if he tried to wreck his vengience on Armaan to keep him away from Jassi? So in such a scenario, if you justify Mallika's action,you have to justify Armaan and Purab as well.Now,do you think, any man or woman,who tries to get back his/her love and get her revenge by deliberately ruining perfectly innocent people's life deserves sympathy? If that is so,every evil in the world is justified,no matter how macabre.

Mallika is not a thief, she is a decoit,who wants her own happiness,no matter what the cost is. So if she cannot get it in a right manner,she will employ every crooked trick in the world to get it. So she steals from her own company and makes it worse, almost kills an elderly already miserable woman with her evilness and almost makes an old family homeless. All because she wants to marry a man she fancies !!!!

What can be more disgusting than this?