|Rewatch| *Dargah Meet Continuation Epi-4* Pg 8 Updated! 19/10 - Page 7

Originally posted by: indi52

savera84, renee.bee, and ssttuuttii, wonderful idea. great to see this thread. one can never finish talking about ipkknd and the more you discuss, the more remains to be pondered, cogitated on, have long chats over.

your format is very interesting. hope to drop in and see the discussions.

just read a bit about asr and that entry of his. haven't seen the episode in a while, but that arcing helicopter whirs in the mind. the long legs unfolding, the music signature hinting at a man with more than just power...

he is standing legs a little apart planted firmly on the green, a slight furrow between the brows dominating the frame. and those deep dark eyes fringed by thick eyelashes. you know it's all in those eyes but you don't all of it. there's pain, there's mystery, there's anger, there's energy, there's victory, there's spirit, there's determination, there's purpose, there's a shutter. you can't see beyond it. like something has been closed permanently, no one is allowed in.

then that slow striding walk, oblivious to all that's happening around. the moving blades of the helicopter and the grass beneath, the still dark mansion in front, a man walking ahead.

and finally the confrontation with chacha ji, the past, injustice. a suitcase snapping shut. eyelids lifting. pigeons flying out, startled. a young, lean man rising slowly and a smoky voice with hidden steel uttering the unforgettable: arnav singh raizada ka nishana kabhi nahin chugta.

his first words were his name. his identity. of utmost importance to him.

then, that blatant, in your face, mocking: paisa mera shauq nahin, pesha hai.

i think of michael corleone in the godfather whenever i think of this scene. that a not very tall or imposing young man from west delhi (not the posh side of town) with no formal training in acting could create this aura, this atmosphere, makes it even more thrilling.

thrilling, he was always that.

Your comment is soooo good I cannot express enough in words. ⭐️

You say you haven't watched the episode since long but gave such a detailed and mind blowing description of Arnav! I specifically loved the way you have described his eyes - we see a depth and yet make out the barrier that keeps us out and away.

Woah! I don't know why I never realized that his first words in the show was his own name! I truly keep discovering something new about this epic show everyday! ❤️

Barun, Sanaya and the entire cast was so perfectly chosen! There is hardly any character which was mis-casted, they found worthy actors for each and every role!

Thank you for your comment and for joining us in this journey! 😳

Love,

Stuti

P.S. All three of us are updating in three separate threads so you may've to bookmark all of them. Or you can keep checking the index on the first page of this thread - I update it everytime one of us posts. 😊

Originally posted by: ssttuuttii

Your comment is soooo good I cannot express enough in words. ⭐️

You say you haven't watched the episode since long but gave such a detailed and mind blowing description of Arnav! I specifically loved the way you have described his eyes - we see a depth and yet make out the barrier that keeps us out and away.

Woah! I don't know why I never realized that his first words in the show was his own name! I truly keep discovering something new about this epic show everyday! ❤️

Barun, Sanaya and the entire cast was so perfectly chosen! There is hardly any character which was mis-casted, they found worthy actors for each and every role!

Thank you for your comment and for joining us in this journey! 😳

Love,

Stuti

P.S. All three of us are updating in three separate threads so you may've to bookmark all of them. Or you can keep checking the index on the first page of this thread - I update it everytime one of us posts. 😊

hi stuti,

thanks for that warm welcome. asr pretty much imprinted in many of us i suspect hahah. i've written reams on the episodes and some of the characters, but every now and then, the heart says give me more and i come here. i see my friend faiqa, mysticaldivine, being referred to here. we used to hang out together on a thread. she's pretty stupendous.

ah, so three separate threads. okay, let me find the others and bookmark...

yes those eyes, how they called you in and shut you out. i need to see them i think.

Originally posted by: indi52

very interesting discussion.

agree about the thappad being more insulting and the rage more focussed in that act.

about that throwing of money recklessly and the incensed, heightened anger... could this be hinting at his character? his gussa? so much a part of him. out of control anger... perhaps a result of all that;s happened in his life or perhaps an inherent part of character... but an anger that can't be reigned in. makes him do crazy, unreasonable, even terrible things. the very cool and calculated asr is completely tripped by this gussa of his. in episode 2, he has snapped an unknown girl's choli strings. here these slaps... much later on a chaotic night, a terrifying wedding. could mool rajani thappads and crores be telling us of things to come?

Wow! I think you're right! It was an early indication that he gets blindsided completely when his sister's or mother's name comes up. They had given us a hint in the very first week of the show, was there any doubt that we were going to witness worse when something actually happens to his sister!

I just wish his anger had been equally directed towards Shyam and Khushi though. Khushi was weaker and more accessible so he easily made her the target, but couldn't do anything to Shyam because of Anjali. 😐

But yes, the hate marriage - however dramatic it maybe - was not uncharacteristic for him. He can do rash things in anger. At that time, it was what seemed like the most feasible solution to keep Shyam and Khushi apart (and also keep Khushi with him).

Originally posted by: ssttuuttii

Wow! I think you're right! It was an early indication that he gets blindsided completely when his sister's or mother's name comes up. They had given us a hint in the very first week of the show, was there any doubt that we were going to witness worse when something actually happens to his sister!

I just wish his anger had been equally directed towards Shyam and Khushi though. Khushi was weaker and more accessible so he easily made her the target, but couldn't do anything to Shyam because of Anjali. 😐

But yes, the hate marriage - however dramatic it maybe - was not uncharacteristic for him. He can do rash things in anger. At that time, it was what seemed like the most feasible solution to keep Shyam and Khushi apart (and also keep Khushi with him).

blindsided.

yes, that's the word.

and that horrid beautiful raging aching marriage... yeah, his way of solving all problems maybe, without ever quite realising his absolute need to keep her close.

think star plus had demanded a marriage by then, six months into the show a gec needs shaadi, had they not, it might have been a forced live in situation. which now when i think of it would have not seemed odd given the fact that he'd already had a live in girl friend. wonder if that was the reason they went for that scenario with la in the first place.

Originally posted by: indi52

hi stuti,

thanks for that warm welcome. asr pretty much imprinted in many of us i suspect hahah. i've written reams on the episodes and some of the characters, but every now and then, the heart says give me more and i come here. i see my friend faiqa, mysticaldivine, being referred to here. we used to hang out together on a thread. she's pretty stupendous.

ah, so three separate threads. okay, let me find the others and bookmark...

yes those eyes, how they called you in and shut you out. i need to see them i think.

Okay! You can call me slow 🐢 but I finally figured out why your username seemed so familiar to me! I used to follow your Rewind thread!! ❤️

I was a silent reader since all these years so you won't remember me of course but it gives me a weird fluttery feeling to know that you're here reading our analysis now. It's like a senior is reviewing my work and I'm supposed to prove my mettle now 🙈😂. I know I'll never be able to match up to you guys but yeah... trying to put some efforts 😆.

And yes, I like Mysticaldivine's work too. I'm glad she permitted me to add references to her thread. Her edits are beautiful and her words are as mesmerizing. ❤️ I thought our analysis would get a little technical and boring maybe so her edits and Arshi scene romantic angle will even that out. 😳

Here are the other two threads :

Arnav's character analysis by Savera84

Khushi's character analysis by renee.bee

Since we are in different time zones and update on different days and timings, it wouldn't be feasible for us to maintain one single thread. So we have three of them and doing things according to our individual speed. But we also try to coordinate and have the same episodes near about together.

You must have read Arnav's analysis on Savera84's thread. She has completed her analysis till episode 9 so you can go ahead and read through them. I was occupied with other events on the forum so have been a little slower. 🙈

Originally posted by: indi52

blindsided.

yes, that's the word.

and that horrid beautiful raging aching marriage... yeah, his way of solving all problems maybe, without ever quite realising his absolute need to keep her close.

think star plus had demanded a marriage by then, six months into the show a gec needs shaadi, had they not, it might have been a forced live in situation. which now when i think of it would have not seemed odd given the fact that he'd already had a live in girl friend. wonder if that was the reason they went for that scenario with la in the first place.

I was not aware about Star plus demanding things. They were having a shaadi in the show so that should have been enough to bring in the TRPs anyway.

But I feel that with the way things were progressing between Arshi during Payash marriage, had the Shyam MU not occured at that time then it wouldn't have occurred at all later. It was a delicate relationship that they had just started building so the blow was more profound.

Live-in wouldn't have been agreed upon by Gupta family and I think by Raizada family too. Lavanya was a different matter - even at that time Naniji wasn't happy with the situation and they didn't live in the same room. But at least it was clear that Lavanya was also interested in the live-in. And Naniji constantly kept pressurizing Arnav for marriage nevertheless. With Khushi, everyone knew her views on this matter. Hell, she was brought in specifically to "train" Lavanya and make her more traditional and sanskari. So no one would buy the fact that she agreed for a live-in willingly. Infact, it was pretty unbelievable to everyone that she agreed to elope in the first place!

I guess Arnav understood the family dynamics and beliefs well enough to know that nothing short of marriage was going to work here. That's my take on this.

Originally posted by: ssttuuttii

I was not aware about Star plus demanding things. They were having a shaadi in the show so that should have been enough to bring in the TRPs anyway.

But I feel that with the way things were progressing between Arshi during Payash marriage, had the Shyam MU not occured at that time then it wouldn't have occurred at all later. It was a delicate relationship that they had just started building so the blow was more profound.

Live-in wouldn't have been agreed upon by Gupta family and I think by Raizada family too. Lavanya was a different matter - even at that time Naniji wasn't happy with the situation and they didn't live in the same room. But at least it was clear that Lavanya was also interested in the live-in. And Naniji constantly kept pressurizing Arnav for marriage nevertheless. With Khushi, everyone knew her views on this matter. Hell, she was brought in specifically to "train" Lavanya and make her more traditional and sanskari. So no one would buy the fact that she agreed for a live-in willingly. Infact, it was pretty unbelievable to everyone that she agreed to elope in the first place!

I guess Arnav understood the family dynamics and beliefs well enough to know that nothing short of marriage was going to work here. That's my take on this.

you could be absolutely right. we'll never know the star plus and production house shenanigans. but that marriage did seem literally forced... there was always talk about asr forcing kkg to live with him... would have been even more brutal than that marriage.

ah, lovely to speculate the scenarios. and despite all its maddening aspects, the marriage was such splendid drama. both actors took it to another level and our understanding of this thing we call love along with it.

back to moolrajani... the thappad came at "tede mummy ko bhi..." always the trigger. you couldn't mention his mother or sister negatively without getting straight to his mad spot. and i guess the two crore were flung at the money grabbing flashy shallow creature just to show him his place, that aukat thing our man was hung up on.

Originally posted by: ssttuuttii

Okay! You can call me slow 🐢 but I finally figured out why your username seemed so familiar to me! I used to follow your Rewind thread!! ❤️

I was a silent reader since all these years so you won't remember me of course but it gives me a weird fluttery feeling to know that you're here reading our analysis now. It's like a senior is reviewing my work and I'm supposed to prove my mettle now 🙈😂. I know I'll never be able to match up to you guys but yeah... trying to put some efforts 😆.

And yes, I like Mysticaldivine's work too. I'm glad she permitted me to add references to her thread. Her edits are beautiful and her words are as mesmerizing. ❤️ I thought our analysis would get a little technical and boring maybe so her edits and Arshi scene romantic angle will even that out. 😳

Here are the other two threads :

Arnav's character analysis by Savera84

Khushi's character analysis by renee.bee

Since we are in different time zones and update on different days and timings, it wouldn't be feasible for us to maintain one single thread. So we have three of them and doing things according to our individual speed. But we also try to coordinate and have the same episodes near about together.

You must have read Arnav's analysis on Savera84's thread. She has completed her analysis till episode 9 so you can go ahead and read through them. I was occupied with other events on the forum so have been a little slower. 🙈

how wonderful... you used read rewind? and blast from the past maybe? oh, we had so much fun.

and please no no no, everyone is a good writer, and no mettle proving needed. it's all about that "fluttery feeling" hehe. but it feels good to read someone read and remembered. thank you.

appreciate your posting the links here, have found the other threads and marked them. will read asr's analysis, slowly... remembering again. dying once more. just saw 4. am lost in dark angry eyes.

Originally posted by: indi52

you could be absolutely right. we'll never know the star plus and production house shenanigans. but that marriage did seem literally forced... there was always talk about asr forcing kkg to live with him... would have been even more brutal than that marriage.

ah, lovely to speculate the scenarios. and despite all its maddening aspects, the marriage was such splendid drama. both actors took it to another level and our understanding of this thing we call love along with it.

back to moolrajani... the thappad came at "tede mummy ko bhi..." always the trigger. you couldn't mention his mother or sister negatively without getting straight to his mad spot. and i guess the two crore were flung at the money grabbing flashy shallow creature just to show him his place, that aukat thing our man was hung up on.

True... there are so many things we can just speculate on but never get the answers for.

I love the hate marriage track despite the cliche and too much drama initially 😆.

Arnav and Khushi are both so big on egos and defending their families - they will go all out to prove their points. It's a wonder no one ever caught on to their weak spots and misused this leverage (except Arshi using it on each other ).

Just imagine if the Mool Rajani incident had spread... many people would be willing to participate in this receive a slap and get money offer. 🤣 Just go and speak a few insulting words, get slapped and live the rest of your life in luxury without needing to work again. 🤣

Yes! I have seen the Blast from the Past and Rewind threads both. I won't say that I went through every update or post in the threads, but I used to be present on and off. And I remember being amazed at the kind of details and nitpicking that used to go on there! ⭐️ I guess some negativity started in the forum later due to that Barun vs. Sanaya thing and especially during IPK 3 so many of the writers and readers from back then have left now. Nevertheless, we will try to do what we can and hope that all those who join in, will enjoy and contribute too 😊.

Love ❤️

P.S. Have fun rewatching those eyes 😉. I'm going off to watch episode 5 too, gotta update that soon 😆.

Originally posted by: indi52

savera84, renee.bee, and ssttuuttii, wonderful idea. great to see this thread. one can never finish talking about ipkknd and the more you discuss, the more remains to be pondered, cogitated on, have long chats over.

your format is very interesting. hope to drop in and see the discussions.

just read a bit about asr and that entry of his. haven't seen the episode in a while, but that arcing helicopter whirs in the mind. the long legs unfolding, the music signature hinting at a man with more than just power...

he is standing legs a little apart planted firmly on the green, a slight furrow between the brows dominating the frame. and those deep dark eyes fringed by thick eyelashes. you know it's all in those eyes but you don't all of it. there's pain, there's mystery, there's anger, there's energy, there's victory, there's spirit, there's determination, there's purpose, there's a shutter. you can't see beyond it. like something has been closed permanently, no one is allowed in.

then that slow striding walk, oblivious to all that's happening around. the moving blades of the helicopter and the grass beneath, the still dark mansion in front, a man walking ahead.

and finally the confrontation with chacha ji, the past, injustice. a suitcase snapping shut. eyelids lifting. pigeons flying out, startled. a young, lean man rising slowly and a smoky voice with hidden steel uttering the unforgettable: arnav singh raizada ka nishana kabhi nahin chugta.

his first words were his name. his identity. of utmost importance to him.

then, that blatant, in your face, mocking: paisa mera shauq nahin, pesha hai.

i think of michael corleone in the godfather whenever i think of this scene. that a not very tall or imposing young man from west delhi (not the posh side of town) with no formal training in acting could create this aura, this atmosphere, makes it even more thrilling.

thrilling, he was always that.

I am sure readers are eagerly waiting and would love to read another story from you.

Cheers.....