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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 261/262



both episodes seemed quite rudderless. dashing off into the events of the day without much thought or beauty.

and c'mon of course i get why she is wearing that utterly bizarre outfit to be bond... chori ke khatir banarasi saree how to wear, haan?


alas, despite all the mano fix, episode lacklustre, directionless.




she rewinded and as he came into frame, rabba ve faded up. it was a sad sad moment. khushi reacted to the sight of the man she loved, who had told her "woh baat," a tender scene, her face went vulnerable, she touched the screen, her arnav ji, she so needed to know he was ok. manorama felt the emotions of thsi young woman she had tricked and loathed and decided to call phatti saree. she put her hand on her shoulder in mpathy.. but the moment khsuhi took note of that,s he pretended to be dusting soemthing off her shoulder. lovely character note. and moment. yeah, the two mad bahus of teh raiozada fam, the two not upper class girls with their sense of love and family were in that instant on the same side suddenly. an ipk touch to teh delving into the unpredictable shades in manorama raizada's character.


Completely agree with your thoughts on all the random lack luster stuff happening in these episodes. Plus Khushi almost gave away the game in front of Shayam a couple of times. And Shyam is portrayed as this super intelligent know-it-all being who sniffs and senses stuff. The lightness they tried to inject with detective bond mamiji did not sit well with me. Arnav Singh Raizada has been kidnapped and that in my opinion needs serious treatment. Sure the inbhestigason can be shown with a fun adventurous element , but that did not work out in the format they tried. And they did seem to be trying out various stuff in an attempt to understand what would work. Sometimes Khushi was a crying mess, sometimes forced up beat behaviour.. Yes they did not know what the audience would want now that ASR was not going to show up on their television screens.

For that last scene. Really like your observation. Aah one household with two mad middil cilass bahuriyas.. lovely..

But personally for me the scene was too cliche. Maybe was already numbed by the lifeless treatment of the two episodes so this also failed to grip me. What I felt was that it was all too out there. IPK manages to do this emotion stuff with much more subtlety. When I compare Khushi's expression as her hand stretched towards that age old monitor screen to other times when she has reached out knowingly unknowingly towards Arnavji this fell way short. The premise was sweet and what they wanted to show came across. I just have a vague feeling it could have been portrayed in a much more novel underplayed way if someone tried harder. Completely my view of the scene.. wanted to share with you..
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Posted: 11 years ago
^^^

rhea,

thanks for reading... ah there was just about nothing in these two episodes... and i absolutely agree with you, this was not the place to go ha ha funny. asr is kidnapped. no one should be running around in autos. and a terrible lack of understanding of khushi's feelings, a flat portrayal of worry and tension...

i looked carefully to see if anything made a bit of an impression... the last bit between kkg and mano with the pretending not to care seemed to have a little something... but yeah, that was because the rest of the topography was eerily barren.

i wonder why these lapses started to happen so frequently.

in the last year, star plus has emerged even stronger in terms of trp and all other numbers measuring achannel... i know how i can't sit through even one of the shows. not. one. yet they are number one... there seemed to be excessive chest thumping at the got up star parivar awards,w hich i watched for all of 5 minutes before i really had to turn off the tv. it doesn't surprise me any longer that no one at star plus cared about ipk... it was too fine and too troublesome for them. there was real acting, real writing, real love from fans... not the ra ra fake bludgeon all with the fare element they seem to favour.

no one cares about quality anymore... just numbers.

in the middle of that, suddenly to get something that moves you again and again... i am still astonished.
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Posted: 11 years ago
sohara,

thanks so so much for reading my 258 and the introduction...

glad you enjoyed.

yes, barun is a natural actor. pretty rare too. i have heard that sanaya interview once a long time ago. the way she responds to his acting, she really doesn't to others' it is fairly obvious.

barun, for all his horsing around and lightness, has an ability to completely believe the character he portrays when camera rolls, no matter how strange the writing may be or the moment... and that makes everything feel real, alive... it's a qulaity i can't always put words to... his words are not perfectly enunciated at times, but he gets so into the character, nothing matters.

i miss this terribly on screen. just terribly.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

beautiful one, rhea... even as i saw the episode, i could almost hear khushi, can you hear me? amazing how in this tiny appearance that lasted a couple of minutes, the entire episode seemed to get buoyed up. or at least there was something to see. i think to be really powerful as an actor, for the moment when the camera rolls one has to simply discard all else and believe in the character, the story... no matter how weird or strange or ridiculous it may feel. vishwaas seems to be the key... no need to resist, just give in and get there. i think barun has an astonishing facility to do just that... no matter how casual and here and now he sounds when he is off screen. a fabulous quality in his acting, for me. who would have thought asr could speak so softly, almost weakly and still remain khadoos laad gov asr, yet he was asr all through.


please see my comments in blue. thanks for a heartfelt, intense take... those minutes deserved it.


Thank you for liking Indi di 😳 . I read yours. Looks like we saw things with the same eye..or maybe the same heart.. Will comment separately...stars.. ye telepathy bhi na.. uff.. where all you get to see it..

a part of him always vulnerable, felt strong maybe

even amid atrocious tracks, the note is right. and aspirational to the core.

Very insightful comments. For someone who has been hurt too many times to actually trust another, let control go and submit to another, allow himself to be taken care of. Perhaps even deep within like it. yes, he has someone whom he can call his very own. who loves him. whom he loves. must give him strength that thought. And moreover she likes him as person. that's a nice thing to have, you know. very underrated in love. definitely not neccessary but more like an added benefit. I feel its nice to like the person you love. okay am rambling..

Yes I always felt his character specially the love he has for his jhalli girl has an aspirational quality. And whether he was the complex angry young man just starting to fall in love or the slightly subdued indulgent husband you would still aspire to be him. he was forthright and spoke sense when he talked to her, always ,even during Mrs india.
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Posted: 11 years ago

n the wake of this realization, there raged a tempest in her mind, which impended to throw thoughts, values, morality, emotions and every thing else that stood in it's meander, into a chaos. Only one thought, reigned supreme over the inner conflict ravaged landscape..."I can't live without you."

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Sohara, lovely take. and you nailed the essence up there above. For both of them, Love or hate, either couldn't ignore the other, indifference which is more abrasive than hatred.
Thanks for sharing those gorgeous gifs.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

Episode-256

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"aap agaya."

After taking shower in Arnav's bathroom, he waits for Khushi to come in. His bare body disgusted me. it feels a complete anarchy in the house during ASR's absence. When Khushi enters the room, he starts to flirt with her. Khushi gets tremulous in anger to see him in her room or moreover without shirt. She asks him how dare he came to her room like this! He banters, as her Arnavji is not at home, he is here to fill his blank. Khushi's anger spirals towards zenith to hear his sick thought. He again jeers her, "there shouldn't be any difference whether he is here or not, rather it should affect your married life."

Sohara, brilliant observation that in red. Truly anarchy, No basic decency. who would send, OK with husband taking shower in bro's room in his absence? You know what made this track worse? One is ofcourse we all missed that man terribly.. and to add insult to the injury the blatant filth filling up our screens in scenes like these and later when Khushi deliberately goes close to him as a strategy!!?? Thank you for sharing all the beautiful gifs and vms. Loved that "aaj jaane ki zid na karo" for the airport one, super apt.
I realize that there is n't any song left from recent times in making vms for these two. You name it and you have it as arnav- Khushi vm. I thought that was some thing..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

Episode-257

Payal tries to make him understand, but he is obstinate, not ready to listen to her and starts to berate her. He even accuses her for not being affable to Babli. What's wrong with this man? Is he a blind, moron! 😆

paue: When first time I saw this episode, I was scared whether they show Shyam holding Khushi or not. Thank god they didn't show that. After seeing his bare body in Khushi' room, I just couldn't trust cvs.

Shyam pause: I never knew that in India anybody can make a passport without the person's presence. Or is this a chamatkar of hindi soap!

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Hmm, isn't that underlined an open secret? :) too many things contrived, from passport to airlines people leaking highly confidential info of who boarded and who didn't .. and khushi left to go to the airport alone..i mean yeah they needed to give her privacy with her hubby but why while going to the airport??😆 anyway, no head nor tail.. just have to enjoy the bits that made sense..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 259


just saw 259. a beautiful dream and dreadful reality converged and created sharp contrast. in one world he skipped like a callow lover around the pool, free and wafting, in another there were ropes. binding him, making movement impossible... she sat touched perhaps by both and yes that phonecall and figured out, yes, there's khatra. danger... she knew stalked her arnav ji. seemed as though there was again communication at another level.

update

the more i think about it, the more i feel there was something musical in the episode. i know nothing about music in a formal way... yet the beginning felt like a soft gentle deep opening introducing the basic notes of the piece. then there was a lyrical movement asking you to fly away to another world. the next movement changed mood tone everything but stayed with the fundamental notes and their ascent and descent, it left fantasy just like that, hit reality running... breathlessly. tied and bound, gun pointing at it and there was a complete change of rhythm and pace. a crescendo was reached and then cut off.


episode could have ended their happily, but for some unknown reason, maybe just to kill time, there was that akash payal nani bit... like a song that didn't didn't belong. and the disturbing cop station ha ha scene. but i'll just ignore them i guess.

gust of wind entered frame and wrapped around them creating a place away from the material world, as they sat in their own spaces, physically at a distance, emotionally completely connected. her tears flowed and seemed to take him close to a point close his. she held her phone and pressed it to her heart... with his voice in it, it was almost a part of him, and of course the only place she wanted to hold him at that moment was her heart.

the moment seeped into the story. the girl who had fallen into his arms one evening and set up emotions that tore into him, and yet he couldn't walk away with his swagger and his faraq nahin padta; the boy who snapped her dori and filled her with yearnings and longings she couldn't understand, and who made her hopping mad, who had wronged her... these two at last had found out what really ailed them. it was nothing else, just that old simple truth... the one that doesn't care a hoot what anyone says or doesn't, does or doesn't, not even if anyone has character or hasn't... it just is and it is all that matters.

love.

supercedes all, doesn't it.

how simply he said it at last. how enchantingly she held the feeling and reciprocated. gust of wind and rabba vey must have thrown a party that night... at last these two had got it. at long last. so who could blame the wind for hanging around to enjoy the moment.

the two of them said nothing... just held a moment close and took it into themselves... like they needed it to breathe... to survive.

click. and the phone is disconnected.

she is weeping and he looks helpless, upset, not like his usual self at all.
a hand enters frame and it's the first sign that something is terribly wrong. beginning of kidnap...

an asr turn of head and icy glare at the whoever.

first notes of kidnap soundtrack with the jagged drumming comes in. a little taste of what's to come.

a gun is pointed at his head. i was shattered, and i must say i loved the kidnap sequences, well most of them, they were shot really well. raw and scary and palpable.
how terribly gorgeous is asr looking even though his jacket is gone... only shirtsleeves, hair mussed, but the eyes, the stance, all asr.

and then come in the ropes. the reality dose is getting worse. good acting can sometimes be hard on the viewer. really.

he sits in that terrifying space, ready for whatever is on its way... is it death.

and we escape to another world. khushi walks down the corridor to her room, on the way she recalls how angry he had been when he found out she was engaged... when he thought he had lost her... how both times he had said "faraq padta hai, kyunki..." he had always loved her... even then even when he hurt her all the time. it was all about this feeling, this one, nothing else.

i have mentioned earlier how i thought she almost instantly grew into a woman after embracing this truth. by the time she reached her room, she was all woman and a woman very much in love. so much, that her mind conjured a powerful image of him... here, looking beautiful, come all the way to tell her with all of himself... he loves her.

khushi, i love you.

into the second movement of the theme we went.


khushi wore bridal red to meet her man. he lit a candle to dispel the darkness, he stood there looking gentle and tender and so very loving, a light in his eyes. she was no longer afraid... she stepped into his world and held out her hand. he looked a little sad as though upset at having hurt her, she kept her fingers firmly on his lips. shh, not a word, no regrets.

aaoge jab tum balma... when you come, my love, flowers will bloom in my garden. the rain will come down... dancing. the first time i saw this, i had actually heard the song several times during that very day... no idea what was waiting for me at midnight.


he gestured gently and she saw he had brought a gift. a string of pearls. he was returning all those scattered pearls of the first meeting to her. how deftly the composition enriched itself with context. she was so happy, she let him put it on around her neck, and just as he moved in closer to wrap her in his arms and make love to her, she turned and in the way of filmi, slightly flaky khushi ran away from him, fully expecting him to follow just as in the movies no doubt. he didn't disappoint, he did a slomo run after her by the poolside where they always met to battle, to kiss, to love, to hate. and caught her and held her and she buried her face in his chest, her smile lit up the night. he was so content with her in his arms, but then he frowned... he was again assailed by remorse. she said to him not to feel like that. no. there was no need.

barun sobti and sanaya irani took what might have become impossibly embarrassing to watch to such sweet perfection, i couldn't even think, i was pretty silly gooey in a fairly dead state. i mean, did you see the look in his eyes, and she was suddenly just that bit provocative, that bit shy, wooing her man almost.

then arrived the tackiest prop on earth and fantasy... the bottle which carried the message. even that couldn't ruin it for me. i love you, khushi said the note.

and a mirage melted away.

oh he had even in that gentle avatar of his managed to do an advance retreat... after all, this was a classic asr khushi moment, if a legendary couple's signature was a certain way they hugged or turned their heads or whatever... asr khushi's advance retreat was their thing... part of them, uniquely... right from the day they met, back in episode 2. thrilling this touch of things peculiar to them and always in an easy, unforced way. created memorable things, most brands would kill for such signatures.

she was startled to find herself in her yellow green churidaar kameez again. what was that. what happened.
and we shifted to reality. also the device of intercut.

music changed. a feeling of pain and torture and disquiet all around. ropes, darkness. he sits looking helpless, perhaps exhausted and asleep, still sitting. his eyes open, he is groggy, eyes unfocused... he looks around... and we see for the first time where he sits tied and captured. the phone lies before him. a slight lightening of expression, his hand reaches out, fingers enter frame, a will in them.

the phone is too far away. he tries his best to reach it, dragging his chair toward it, herculean effort just to get to that tine little thing. breaks out in sweat, very tired, he's almost collapsing, the ropes hold him back... he is trying to say something, is it "khushi"?


and she is instantly touched it seems as we cut to her in her darkness, wearing a bright yellow... not bound, not stationery, in fact moving... in thought, in emotion, in body. she feels a darkness, she sits down as though winded by it.

cut to him, he has pulled himself up again. and he tries valiantly once more to reach that phone... he is not giving up.


cut to her, a surge of energy and she gets up and starts pacing... music moves from sombre to a faster pace.

"humey pata hai. humara man kah raha hai ki kuchh toh bura hua hai aapke saath.." i know, my mind says, something bad has happened to you.

again we go to him and he is still trying... but now his fingers register his flailing strength. and he seems to lose momentum, something is dragging him down. his head lolls back, eyes begin to shut.

she is in fully up and about as he diminishes... calling him, calling aman... trying to figure things out. no, aman knows nothing about the scotland deal.

he lies there in his chair, fragile, unconscious.

she calls the airlines... there was no flight to scotland from delhi three days ago.

"iska matlab? and fear comes to clutch her heart.
cut to him...and his captors come calling. there's the man in the jacket. now in shirt and looking the ruffian he is. three or four guys, rough, henchman variety, they actually touch his face and slap him around abit. oh no, not agood sign. "kya hua issey?" what's the matter with him...

he is a diabetic, get his meds, if anything happens to him "boss" will kill them. ah so there's a boss. "mar toh nahin gaya hai yeh?" hasn't died has he? and asr's head flops to the side. ugh.

cut to khushi, she sits cogitating. why did he say he is in london if he is in scotland? she goes through her thoughts and reaches where we had started out... again like music coming back all the way to the first notes.

"khushi, i love you."

aur woh baat.

and those words.

why did he say those words to me. suddenly? and the way he said the words? unke baat karne la tarika? he has never spoken to me like this before...

she recalls how he had said she was having an affair, that she has no character... a vulnerable beauty in khushi at this moment. the man she loves who has told such horrible things to her, worse still believed what he has said...

jinhone humse itna kuchh kaha... who said so many things to me...
itna rulaya... made me cry so much...
itni taqleef di... gave so much hurt...
jinhone humey sach sabit karne ka mauqa tak nahin diya... who didn't give me a chance even to prove the truth...
unhone hi humse kaha ki... he told me...

and she thinks of the words again. something oneirical (ha... that word) in the entire sequence, even though it is reality.

woh itni badi baat itni asani se kaise kah sakte hai... how can he say such ahuge thing so easily.

and in asani was the cue to the next thought.
the opposite of that asani... mushkil. difficulty.

zaroor, she averred, woh koi mushkil mein honge.
he must be in some difficulty.

if all is going well there's no way he'd say such abig thing to her. she is sure.

kahin unhe koi khatra toh nahi?

danger... khatra. she has reached the right word.

she had not said a word when he said "khushi, i love you."

but in the last few minutes she has talked constantly, with others, then herself... and come to the right conclusion... sensing him. his words. beyond its obvious meaning. feeling his mind, knowing his ways...

kahin unhe koi khatra toh nahin?

why did it sound like "arnav ji, i love you," to me.

she stood up, now sure. i know, my heart says, he is in some sort of danger.

beautiful. there was that ipk kind of writing here. with its little games and surprises, and such a mad understanding of emotion. new music played in the background as season changed at ipk. this was the first time we saw him in captivity, and her becoming absolutely a woman, his woman... barun was so good in these shots, hard to believe he was actually doing two shifts shooting some happy sukhi role somewhere. sanaya was lovely, at long last energy in her now that she has spoken to him... and moreover he has said woh baat.

i thoroughly enjoyed the intercutting and the two spaces both similar in some ways and completely different too. seemed like they were again communicating at another plain... sensing each other, deciphering, desiring, moving in unison, never quite apart. and yes, it did feel like a piece of music composed with inspiration.

Beautiful writing about the converging of two worlds indi, indeed a lyrical piece , a symphony with either of them singing in tandem feeling the other in another plane...a befitting direction to depict the same to portray their helplessness at not being able to reach each other..
I shut my eyes at all those kidnap scenes, didn't watch them properly.. how can one see the swagger, sheer bundle of energy, the unrelenting focus, the dynamism that he is... perhaps since he was 14 to set things right for them/ their family.. confined all gagged up in a chair at a remote place?? Not me...
Although that cheesy run around the pool didn't quite work for me, his face wincing in pain for all the pain he caused her was the essence it felt like. How smartly Khushi interpreted the exact opposite of his easy confession as you pointed. just like the exact opposite of his state which came out as anger in both the instances she recalled, the sagai and what if I had lost you, but he meant all together something else..she could read all that crystal clear now..
Love that song "aavoge jab tum woh sajna" that I originally pictured when he looks at her all smitten during that heavenly GH verandah stroll before all the hell broke loose, was glad to see it coming at some point here..
there is always a sensitiveness felt in IPK writing emoted by barun and sanaya to unbelievably realistic levels...that every ounce of that mushkil and pyar is felt deeply..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

sohara,

thansk so so much for reading my 258 and the introduction...

glad you enjoyed.

yes, barun is a natural actor. pretty rare too. i have heard that sanaya interview once a long time ago. the way she responds to his acting, she really doesn't to others' it is fairly obvious.

barun, for all his horsing around and lightness, has an ability to completely believe the character he portrays when camera rolls, no matter how strange the writing may be or the moment... and that makes everything feel real, alive... it's a qulaity i can't always put words to... his words are not perfectly enunciated at times, but he gets so into the character, nothing matters.

i miss this terribly on screen. just terribly.


Oh yeah, missing him like crazy.
I'm talking about Sanaya's new interview with team Sarun, what she gave for IPK's third anniversary.
And thanks for reading my 256.
I love khushi so much and I feel her a lot.
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Beautiful writing about the converging of two worlds indi, indeed a lyrical piece , a symphony with either of them singing in tandem feeling the other in another plane...a befitting direction to depict the same to portray their helplessness at not being able to reach each other..
I shut my eyes at all those kidnap scenes, didn't watch them properly.. how can one see the swagger, sheer bundle of energy, the unrelenting focus, the dynamism that he is... perhaps since he was 14 to set things right for them/ their family.. confined all gagged up in a chair at a remote place?? Not me...
Although that cheesy run around the pool didn't quite work for me, his face wincing in pain for all the pain he caused her was the essence it felt like. How smartly Khushi interpreted the exact opposite of his easy confession as you pointed. just like the exact opposite of his state which came out as anger in both the instances she recalled, the sagai and what if I had lost you, but he meant all together something else..she could read all that crystal clear now..
Love that song "aavoge jab tum woh sajna" that I originally pictured when he looks at her all smitten during that heavenly GH verandah stroll before all the hell broke loose, was glad to see it coming at some point here..
there is always a sensitiveness felt in IPK writing emoted by barun and sanaya to unbelievably realistic levels...that every ounce of that mushkil and pyar is felt deeply..



thanks, indu...

so you thought of aaoge jab tum during that sublime verandah walk... mmm. angna phool khilenge that day seemed to sing indeed.

that exact opposite thing... you are right... in him always. faraq nahin padta hai means i can't breathe without you... anger means love... where is this man, where...

the first time i saw those ropes on him, i cannot tell you how much it hit me, disturbed me... upset me... i had to tell myself to calm down, this is a fictional character. i remember feeling almost sick and pretty rattled. i was so apprehensive of what would come, but because i was desperate to see barun, i decided not to skip.

i have seen my quota of hindi films and never has the state of the hero in captivity bothered me so much. i have always known it's fake.

this is the thing. something about the way barun did asr made me think everything, every single things is real, it is happening right before me.

as i watched him in kidnap and saw him being asr, i came to fall for this difficult period... only to see barun do it. i remember thinking of jason bourne, a far away memory when i first read bourne identity... couldn't even remember the hero's name, just che sah che sah as he swings wildly at attackers, blindfolded... even as i watched a lithe, taut, determined man in blindfold threshing about hitting out at a bunch of men assaulting him, refusing to give in, in one of the kidnap scenes later.

why i kept watching and then fell for the natty waistcoat man in crumpled shirt, tousled hair and filthy vest, was this young man's presence and acting. he was asr right through.

but yes, any day give him to me khadoos, sharp, biting, and ruler of all he surveys, including madam dhakdhak's heart. um ah er perhaps even mine.

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