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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 247







fights relieve me. they are real. they get rid of masks. as much survival technique as anything else. a human, a tiny being in a humongous world, a human's bid to hold on, not give territory, prevail.

a fight between true lovers is thrilling. it takes to a peak need, love, hunger, despair, desire, just about any emotion you associate with lovers and that thing they have. not too many actors can give so much of themselves and go all the way to a bridge on a desolate not too pretty road. barun sobti and sanaya irani were just plain spectacular. it was a man woman fight, a husband wife battle, a lovers' earth shattering tiff and a leap by mere mortals to claim their life back from what felt like death.

while thinking and getting into that vicious fight between asr and khushi, i was reminded of an interesting conversation i had with my nephew recently about rugby. a pretty violent game, he is suddenly very keen on it, and he had said something to me about what his coach told them about the emotions of this aggressive game. wrote to him just now and got him to quote the coach's words.

"through every emotion you can get out happiness."

"so even when you are angry after you hit, eventually you turn out to be happy."

one should check to see if one of the writers had a thing for rugby... what a superb understanding of this conflict between two who only want to make love to each other and be happy. nothing else.

something utterly raw about the whole thing, almost like unrehearsed fights between two adults who care like hell... there's aggression, demand, mad anger, crazy hurt, wrecking desire, and no real sweet script. goes here there everywhere... to horror and accusation and then again to the most vulnerable plea... am i not important to you? the opponent finds exactly that moment not to hear what's being said and retorts, hah, so you want an explanation is it! her way of saying perhaps, what about me... don't i mean a thing to you...

"khushi," a little pause, "mujhe explain karna zaroori nahin samjha?" didn't think it was necessary to me?

it's me, me... his eyes seemed to say, his face had lost all aggression, just his need, his fond hope that he was important to her. she had that power over him always.

seeing that gentleness, she reacted so terribly normally... with anger.

"achha toh aapko safai chahiye ki humara bartav aise kaise hai? jaise kuch hua hi nahin hai? aapko himmat kaise hui humse yeh poochhne ki..." oh so you want an explanation as to why i am behaving like this... as though nothing has happened? how dare you...

she always fought back, didn't she. and that's why perhaps he looked at her differently. from day one, she never held back, never minced her words... in fact, when he was nasty to his girl friend the way she would rave at him. and there fights always went all over the place, never quite moving along a straight line... always unfathomably real.

she had gone to give it to him by the poolside once, episode 127, and tell him why exactly people keep quiet around him, that his gussa, his aggression hurts people... he had listened to her and then thrown her completely off kilter asking her, why? why did it make a difference to her when he got engaged, what difference did it make to her? she had been completely thrown by that as he had been by the fact that she was engaged... but she had said, it made no difference whatsoever.

anger and friction from day one, "aap kya bakwas kar rahe hain" she said to him then, to his, "tum jaisi ladkiyon ka kya, ek jayga, doosra phassa logi," today again that "phassana" , trapping, accusation comes full circle... self fulfilling prophecy like, the words of that first day seemed to turn out to be true... she had trapped a "shadi shuda" married man he told her. she had done a "phassana". like shyam is this innocent who got nabbed by a scheming home wrecking khushi... girls like her are all out to ruin guys... an old old pain always messes up hs judgment, makes him say terrible things.

and he hasn't held back at all today, let all his anger, his terrible sense of betrayal pour out. how could you?!!! he has raved on the terrace after that ridiculous situation where he almost lost her forever. his anger is at an unimaginable high now. relief mixing with pent up anger and frustration of a month and more, perhaps an ancient anger mixes with it too, wanting espression, expunging even.

he has held her to him, he has pushed her off vehemently.

he has called her characterless. he knows everything, he has said.

"jaanta hoon ki tumhara aur shyam ka affair chal raha hai..." i know you and shyam have an affair on. very colloquial hindi, kinda nice and angry.

that is why he has married her. to save his di, her baby... he can do anything for his di, even marry a wretch like her...

"in fact, you know something, itne mahino se main yeh soch raha hoon ki tum iss had tak kaise gir sakti ho... tumhe dekhkar hi mujhe..." okay it's not so many months, it's so many days... but he has been wondering how she could have fallen this low.

then he says, i should have known the moment i saw you... is he talking about the first time they met? is he in his crazy anger admitting that was the day she had started making a difference? oh that beautiful flashback from yesterday of the first very first time he saw her and she fell into his arms, just as she is about to jump off the ledge and he has no clue if he will succeed in saving her.

everything goes haywire. he can't take it, he walks off, the angriest stare at her walking away all the while... contact he can't seem to break.

she is left stricken, speechless. smited. at last she knows. knows why he married her.

because she is a lowdown s**t. so he believes. how will khushi deal with this. any accusation on earth she might have handled... but this? and how hard she believes she has tried to protect him and his family from this painful truth... his sister's husband is not faithful.

the writer opts for a response quite typical of certain personality types, especially when the situation is colossally painful.

khushi collapses on the ground, alone, bereft, shocked, horrified, then she decides to shut up and go almost into denial...

if the man you loved the most in the whole wide world thought you were a harlot and said that is why he married you... where would you be, how would you defend yourself against that scrum of accusations most vitriolic and gargantuan when you haven't even taken your position? you are still thinking it's all about some left over feelings for an ex girlfriend or something and getting all emotional about how you would have walked away had you known.

when all along, it's something else. you are the one with a boyfriend. having an an illicit love affair. you are the one people need to save their helpless innocent sisters from. and he can do anything for his di. even marry you.

"tum jaisi ladki se shadi bhi kar sakta hoon" finger jabs down, "aur wohi maine kiya..."

khushi does what khushi can. what people who are suddenly thrown such a big one often do... a sadness deep mixes with a denial bordering on hysteria. as a reaction, one can't argue with it... people react in different ways... but i felt the acting fell short. especially since the other one had taken it to a high most dizzying.

and now having said what has riven him this past month and hurting the one for whom he gives such faraq, he is trying to find solid ground again. and failing. a beautiful few minutes on a verandah with a silent man and his memories, body taut, face eloquent and thoughts that "lie too deep for tears". he hates to see her unhappy, when she says aisa kyun hota hai his heart aches, but she is saying to a man that he must leave di... khushi!!! you can feel that ache.

then khushi comes in with her happy chirpy talk.

he is flummoxed for a second, but then it only stokes his anger, did his opponent know that would be the result of her reaction? maybe her subconscious did. this is the classic "nothing" when a woman means everything is the matter i think. but in its most hysterical form... and in fact all it does is goad.

fights are unpredictable in their twists and turns.

and so a lithe angry man must slam on the brakes and stop the car on the middle of a bridge, swing out burning with anger... walk across, pick up a framed picture and smash it on the road. break break break.

break, break, break,
on thy cold grey stones, o sea!
and i would that my tongue could utter
the thoughts that arise in me!
~~~ alfred, lord tennyson ~~~


then he must drag her out of the car and push, badger, rave, ask for answers... how how could she do it.

and if she keeps quiet, where's her jugular... aah in the stars, go for it... go on, speak of her parents... respond to me, dammit.

how could you hurt me so much and keep quiet.

howww?

stray thought... when othello found out about desdemona or so he thought... he killed her, tom jones has told us what happened to my my my delilah when she was unfaithful. when men find out their lovers or those they love madly may have a sexual liaison on with another man, something goes crazy... there is often killing involved... and it is understood as a crime of passion. asr had to do something huge that night as reaction... he forced her to become his, he married her, he couldn't throw her away... maybe because he knew the other option would be what... this is not a man of small feelings... nothing that night would have led to a nice meaningful chat over coffee and masala tea. because not only were a man's arms around his woman, she was screaming and telling the man to get rid of his wife... confirming she, khushi kumari gupta, was party to this whole despicable unbearable thing. as a kid, my cousin and i would often get into arguments and he he most often i beat him, once he was so angry, he hopped up and down and threatened me, if i don't behave, he'd marry me and take me to my sasural, show me his power. i think this dragging women off to tribal enclosures and showing them who's the boss may be an ancient cave man, male thing... well whatever it is, with those feelings, nothing could have been rational that night... thank g the writer chose this option... and most touchingly after that, no sexual assault, none.

coming back to the bridge over turbulence.

"that's enough... enough!!!!"

what do you think, i am going to forget everything so easily... don't pretend you don't know what i am talking about...

why is he doing this i wonder. does he want confirmation or negation...

i think a part of him wants to hear it is not true. and another can't take it that she seems unscathed while he is dying like this...

at last khushi starts to thaw a bit.

"actually, tumhe toh koi faraq hi nahin padta..." actually, it makes no difference to you, "shayad issiliye mujhe explain karna zaroori nahin samjha..." perhaps that's why you didn't think it was necessary to explain anything. how badly he needs her to say, heck he does matter... baat aapki hai, she will say soon. in all his rant what's getting lost is, baat tumhari hai, khushi... that's why he can't think sanely.

a sad empty voice... "shayad kuch kahne ko tha hi nahin..." perhaps there was nothing to say.

and anger returning, "aur hoga bhi kaise, kyun ki tum achhi tarah jaanti ho, ki tum galat ho.." how would you say anything, you know you are wrong. the woman he loves is galat. the man who so wanted to be sahi, loves the galat girl... irony of life, never fails to wham you.

he is relentless... you are great at hiding your mistakes, it's sad that your and my family love you so much... "kyunki tum unke pyaar ko deserve nahin karti..." because you don't deserve that love... he doesn't know it's his love for her he speaks of, of course.

he can't stop, he goes no... he needs a response... crosses the line...

"achha hai ki tumhare mom aur dad aaj yeh din dekhne ke liye zinda nahin hai..." very asr trait this line crossing with her...

not a word, not ek shabd about my amma babu ji, khushi opens her mouth at last.

he seems to relax a bit... at last she speaks, and he doesn't mean to back off. he needs a face off, a battle with her... all that has been pent up in him this month and more... it needs to work itself out ... a right royal fight with her is needed. i love this humanness of asr, earthy, real, flawed. it is hard to be a mortal really.

"kyun?"

nasty nasty tone.

push her... what have i said wrong... you say your parents have become stars, so how do you meet their eyes.


bas!

yes, he is drawing blood...


not a word about my parents.

he watches her intently. he is looking for something... constantly at her he looks again and again ever since that terrace.

as though his life depended on it.

silence... she sees her raised finger.. he just waits.. waits for her to say something... he is perplexed by everything.

she tries to take back calm again.

humey ghar jaana chahiye... we should go home.

but no way... we are not leaving this place till i have answers to my questions. so he has sawal and wants jawaab...

he always gets physical when angered... hauls her to another part of the road and faces her... he wants answers... what answers.

they will not leave, till he knows how come despite getting such a good upbringing, she could go so low.


in the middle of rising chaos, he did break out into that beseeching almost "mujhe explain karna zaroori nahin samjha" like he just needed her to say, it's all nothing, just a lie... but then things again went haywire as it must.

his anger returned. and she raved. why did you not ask for this clarification that night when you forced me to marry you and that too for six months...



something from 127, there were bits of this bridge even there, even perhaps in episode 2. and many places along the way.


"each of us is born with a box of matches inside us but we can't light them all by ourselves."~~~ laura esquivel, like water for chocolate ~~~




Enjoyed reading very much! The parts i turned red, i could scream and fight and kill for 👏👏👏👏

I'm finding it a bit tough to talk-detailiya on this episode, the more takes i'm reading. Wonder why. I do know it awakens feelings afresh for this thrashing,throbbing,thriving couple..makes me miss them more. Could've carried on seeing them fight forever methinks, most certainly. And it hits home though i've never stood on a bridge and fought...or... errr... maybe i have?😆

What i love (intensely so) is the unpredictable nature in which this "exchange", particularly on the bridge, unfolds. The retaliations and counter attacks are brimming with range and reality...and as you wonderfully remark :


but then things again went haywire as it must.

Fabulous, the lines you quote from Tennyson. Too fabulous.

Have told you already how i feel for the raw opening images...and i also find truly captivating, this one...




Wow!!!


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: IssK.



Ladki Aarwenia,

Zeh-e-naseeb, aapney yaad kiya aur hum haazir! Hope to be isskootaring around these parts for longer soon. Have had a frantic, furious last few days...

Sakissperean Englisswa...Uff...humen bhi teaching pilleejh! Thy and Thou is all i knowj!😕 And Maamiji isspeak bhebsite (-wa?), pilleejh be consultings in-houj Maami...you knowj, the bhuns and onleeej?😎
It ijj a idea bhery goods👏

Mood is fab already 😆... Just a few words from Maami and all eej well.

And here's a "Humhoo do Nandkissore" meets "Jevaran ka chalta phirta Bigyapan" isspecial... random hai par cute hai.


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FULL DISCLOSURE: am actually craaazzzyyy about these two!!
❤️❤️



humhoon roflingiya.

a bhebsite phar the translatings the maami englees. how about addings ins it aapsun 2, maami to sakissperean englees, aapsun 3, sakissperean to maami englees. (maybeej thens some peepels in englissiya honours killasses understandings the bard that flyeth obhers the heads.)

beginnings to looks like appwa you bhill lubh and must downloadia to iphone phibe rights now.

fully full disclosure, my dear ladkis: these two women are my secret adored role maadels. can't decide which one i want to be. i like one's jooolery too much and the others swaggeriya.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aarwen

Episode 247



"What the hell were you thinking?" They stood as if on opposite banks of a river.. The water turbulent, rising, falling, never ever meeting.
awesome metaphor.

"I didn't do it for Lavanya".. He snarled. Shook her roughly, ASR gussa threatening to overshadow everything he has kept tightly under wraps since the revelation jo chap gay hai mann mein. "Don't lie" .. She braved his anger.. Added in her anger.. Hissed and fought back with complete ownership this time. Demanded an answer..

"Kyunki main tumhare aur Shyam ke bare mein janta hun".. His calloused fingers clutched desperately onto her delicate slender arm. One he had marked before.. Left his harsh imprint on. This time his words leave behind a mark of their own. Beyond what the eye can see. something deep within..

The camera zooms in.. Very next frame a wide shot.. And two people stand motionless on a roof.. Affair.. The word spilling out of his mouth sounds derogatory to an extreme.. "Itna kaise gir sakti ho?" He has been thinking.. and thinking.. Going crazy really.. How could she stoop low? Depraved action in his eyes. Didn't she stop to consider that there was an innocent wife involved whose life would be destroyed in all this? His own di. Hadn't the same happened with his ma.. He had borne the brunt of a family getting destroyed..obliviated really.. The Mallik name gone forever.. All because of a faceless nameless haunting presence of some scarlet woman.. And his ma's husband committing an unforgivable wrong.. The family that has been welcoming, taken you in as its own how could she betray them? He has been obsessing ..



And she.. She hasn't spoken a word yet.. No sound from those quivering lips.. But eyes can be as eloquent .. Before the escaping salty water can melt his resolve he has to stop it.. He has to say it out loud.. Mocking.. Goading.. "Ya right?" .. Convince himself perhaps that the innocence is a farce. Her genuine face. However innocent she looked, from inside she was.. Does not even complete the sentence.. You know he would have chosen to say something terrible. You are thankful that he reigned in the thought. Would have caused too much devastation if voiced out..

"main nai chahta tha ki di ki aane wali nanhi khushi iss khushi ki wajah se bardbad ho".. Beautiful dialogue.. And so he shares with her one more catalyst that compelled him to do what he finally did.. However hard, unimaginably painful he would have still told di the dirty truth but then had come the news of a little bundle of joy.. And he had done all in his power . And a lot outside his power, come to think of it, to ensure di survives . No limits to what he can bear for his di. He could even marry a girl like Khushi for her sake. He could. So he did..

And now all he does is wait for 6 months to be over, to be free of this self imposed penitentiary. So that he can safely throw her out. How many times has he yelled, commanded in varying degrees of emotion. "Get out" .."I said get out".. "Now".."Meri zindagi se nikal jao" .. "Chali jao yaha se".. But has it ever been this painful? "Kyunki main tumse nafrat karta hun Khushi.." He hates her and now she knows why. They lashed out at each other and hatred and a door came in their way after the marriage. But the words he says today remain echoing.. Rising.. Escalating.. "because you don't have a character".. And underlining that he flings down those stars. Her parents soul in them. Rejecting the purest of belief that she left with him. One act that pushes out all breath from me. I can no longer process what it must have done to her.. And to him.. Always both together.. Never apart.. Damaged.. Annihilated.. Survival impossible in this moment..
for that moment my heart just ached for Khushi, not for him whom I love so much. Today when I tried to write my thought, I couldn't. I started to cry loudly when he falsely accused her for being a home breaker.


She had called him characterless once and mad with anger he had whirled are around and hauled her close.. She stands stunned. Allowing the biting pain to pierce her further. He hates her. Ungrateful home wrecker that she is, he can't stand being tied to her. Characterless... A sense of violation here.. Unfairness.. A woman with high bar for morals. The love of her life taints her image with such sinful words.. Swirling..whirling..sinking in the feeling..
how could he think so low of her. how could he think, Khushi can do this. Why Arnav, why did you tear her asunder like that. My eyes got blurry again. Kyu dard hai itna tere ishq mein.

Sometimes life reaches a point when nothing is in your control.. All you can so is step out of yourself and witness life.. A life defining moment really.. Will you break or will you gather reserves of energy you never knew you possessed to fight and claim back what is yours.. Perhaps the creators understood the momentous occasion they had reached and so decided it needed commemoration.. A new tune.. for old words.. Rabba ve.. As encased in heart break.. Love reflecting in heart ache.. No one said love was easy, but they conveniently forgot to tell us how exceptionally unbearably hard it can get.. "kyu dard hai
itna tere ishq mein"..
life sometimes is complicated, but don't you think we people make it complicated. A judge also hears the plaintiff and defendant before giving the verdict. Here ASR didn't even give her a chance to prove herself and punished her. He is just a tyrant here who oppressed an innocuous soul along with him.

His walk.. his grace.. his pursed lips.. taut face.. dark eyes.. Angry glare.. him.. Her lowered face.. Glistening tears.. Swallowing hard.. Shattered.. Agony.. Her .. I don't want to talk about the acting today.. They aren't Sanaya and Barun today.. Not the characters.. not a pair of actors, but two real life people fighting.. hurting.. Crying.. Angry..



Has she ever been this powerless? Has he ever felt this beyond her reach? She stand all alone. Stunned. No one to hold her hand . No shoulder to rest on . No one to voice concern and ask "tum thik ho?" . All she has is a lifeless concrete terrace wall which offers silent support as she slides down it.. Drained of all life.. She cries..
I cried so much for this orphan girl. I wish I could go and give her a tight hug!

We need a break to remind ourselves to start breathing again. Maybe he does too.. So he stands erect, feet apart.. A railing offering support here as well.. A warrior stance.. And torment etched on his face.. Facial muscles clenching involuntarily as he tries to endure the onslaught of memories.
Perfect description of his disoriented state.
He does remember her candid beautiful confession of holi.. Her heart beats faster whenever he is near.. But then in crawls the voice of a snake to poison his sweetest memories.. Shyam loves only Khushi.. He has finally opened up to the locked away hell.. Let his anger free, but he knows instinctively something is gravely wrong.. A dupatta , vivacious and lovely, privy to their journey, flies out in an attempt to caress the tortured man.. Damn! And the palm hit the railing.. You know its pain .. His.. And hers.. 👏
beautifully said.


She is back.. Normal? I think oh no Khushi! Don't brush this off.. Face it.. He stands perplexed .. Now she talks and he stands quiet.. Watchful.. But her voice is breaking.. There is the lingering tremor you can't fail to notice.. "Kis mitti ki bani hai ye?" the voice manages to transport you right inside the confusion is his mind.. She had smiled and been talkative on the drive back home on diwali and today she does the same.. Buaji , amma finally ready with pasta for Arnav bitwa, but I find myself unable to concentrate on that today. Amma with her uncanny knack of sensing bitwa's moods asks if they had a fight. He can't stay and comfort even amma today. Stands clutching onto a lone star. The rest lying mortally wounded on a vacant terrace floor somewhere far. Is this one his ma who chose to remain behind knowing her son is going to need her today? She is behaving normal. And he knows not how or why. A little overacting from her of being normal underlining the extraordinary. A little direct questioning, provoking, from him..

Amma and buaji stand with the hands joint. Asking babua forgiveness for all the discomfort. His voice a little curt, thick with emotion. With the love he got from them the size of the place does not matter .. A simple kiss on his forehead and a gentle hand on his face.. All the elders showering him with love and blessings.. Everyone unintentionally helping him to survive.. Perhaps this touching display of love too much for her to bear for her right now so she cuts in.. Cracks a little joke.. Today of all the days she needs a little love too.. Needs one hug.. Amma is perceptive.. You are talking a bit too much.. But her daughter intervenes even before she can complete the thought.. That is exactly what he likes about me.. On some subconscious level she knew all along his likes, dislikes.. She knew him.. And something inside her instinctively knew that he knew her .. Liked her.. A lot.. Then how did it all go this fatefully wrong?

He bangs the car boot.. Noise.. Physical action.. All that emotion coursing through him requires an outlet.. They sit in the car and a daughter waves goodbye..😆. Murderous look in his eyes.. Mouth still tensed.. Body held rigid.. Only energy leaving through the arm that steers his car.. Di had called.. And she prattles about everyone and how she missed them.. Diwali drive all over again.. "Aur Shyam?" he had to bring it up. But she is not taking the bait, yet. The picture in her hand.. A blissful moment captured in it.. They had danced and rabba ve had celebrated with them..

ASR music is back and the car has screeched to a halt.. And devi maiyaa has decided it is time.. He bangs the door and she cringes. Violence. It reached her.. Attacked her. He hurls the frame to the ground. Just like those stars.. The glass breaks.. Everything inside me breaks as I watch..
same here, couldn't see his loathe any more.





Drags her out.. It has been very long since he has been this aggressive.. Nasty comments storm out of him.. A whirlwind of emotions.. Don't pretend that nothing is wrong.. "koi faraq nai parta tumhe" .. It doesn't affect you.. I think his instinct tells him that something.. everything is terribly wrong.. "Shayad kuch hoga bhi nai kehne ko".. Maybe you have nothing to say.. "tum galat ho".. You know you are wrong.. This is not what he had expected.. Had that hopeful lover in him dared to dream that she would have a logical explanation and all would be right in their world? "Sad that your family and mine love you so much. But you do not deserve that love".. His words don't say it but you know he is also saying.. "Sad that I love you so much. But you don't deserve it". He has brought it her dead parents. Crossed an unforgivable line.. And her eyes lift up.. Gone is the helpless bruised girl.. Stands in front of him the woman who threatens .. Breathes fire.. Don't dare speak one words about my babuji and amma.. Territorial.. Possessive.. Laboured breathing to withstand the onslaught of anger rising within her.. The unfairness of it all..

He almost sighs in relief I feel. Now they are talking. Now she is responding. He has her in the exact state he wants her. He will get his answers.. "Kaise nazarein milati ho unse?" .. "bas".. Ferocious.. Finger risen and staying that way.. Till she wretches herself out of her fury.. Swallows hard.. He doesn't move a muscle.. Waits.. She wants to go home.. But he bangs the door shut.. We do not leave this place till I get my answers.. He has waited for months.. Not anymore.. No longer..

Drags her by her arm, ruthlessly, harshly.. Her body involuntary shudders at his nasty behaviour.. "Tum itna normally kaise behave kar sakti ho".. Voice rising in decibels .. Some physics formula could calculate how and what heights it reaches at "jaise kuch hua hi nai".. But physics isn't the answer.. Maybe chemistry? Between two people.. All the exhothermic reactions.. Explosions.. Between two people.. A pause.. And a tidal shift.. This is what is really underneath it all.. Not really in his coherent thoughts but you get a glimpse of the hope which I spoke of earlier.. "Khushi.. Mujhe explain karna zaruri nai samjha" ? Eyes boring into hers.. He knows there is an answer waiting to be heard. No anger now. Just hurt. Pain. He has laid himself bare in front of her.. Vulnerable..

She bravely withstood his anger, but now it's his pain and he gets his response.. So you want to know why I am quiet? Why I haven't offered an explanation about my behaviour. How dare you?.. "Agar aap humare bare mein itni ghatiya soch rakhte hai toh humein nai lagta aap humare safayi ke layak hai".. If you an think so low of me then you don't deserve an explanation from me..
Finally i sighed a relief. i was feeling suffocated. and she gave him the right answer.

I feel alive.. Every nerve alert.. Every muscle taut.. Expecting, anticipating, dreading, each second that plays out on the screen in front of me.. Befitting really that it is a bridge where two two shores have been destined to clash again..


Wow, what an episode. And your take was mind blowing.
all the lines I marked blue are my favorite and I have my comments in purple.
I tried several futile attempt to write the analysis. the episode was too painful. I watched it several times, but I still have the same dard. Is this the power of the brilliant script or the acting of two extra ordinary actors? i waited eagerly for the MU to be cleared. And how the denouement happened just took my breath away. I cried so much for the distraught soul, my Khushi, I love her so much. Because of her one mistake she had to suffer a lot. What she tried, hid Shyam's truth to save her jiji's marriage! But who was to blame? Wasn't bua literally oppressed her to agree for the marriage with Shyam? how could she keep a young man in her house where she had two young beautiful niece? When the pain is unbearable, it becomes difficult to express khushi's pain was too scorching that she even couldn't defend herself. And at last she ddi, but sigh, he didn't trust her.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: IssK.



Ladki Aarwenia,

Zeh-e-naseeb, aapney yaad kiya aur hum haazir! Hope to be isskootaring around these parts for longer soon. Have had a frantic, furious last few days...

Sakissperean Englisswa...Uff...humen bhi teaching pilleejh! Thy and Thou is all i knowj!😕 And Maamiji isspeak bhebsite (-wa?), pilleejh be consultings in-houj Maami...you knowj, the bhuns and onleeej?😎
It ijj a idea bhery goods👏

Mood is fab already 😆... Just a few words from Maami and all eej well.

And here's a "Humhoo do Nandkissore" meets "Jevaran ka chalta phirta Bigyapan" isspecial... random hai par cute hai.


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcGKnr-83Tc[/YOUTUBE]
credit : youtube/ sho na

FULL DISCLOSURE: am actually craaazzzyyy about these two!!
❤️❤️


IssK, you are so funny! i loved your superbwa translation.
Indi does this translation very well.

Rhea, the thread slowed down! Good for me. In what expedition the thread was running, I thought never to catch you guys. I was missing all the fun. So i decided to skip some episodes and join you here.
The video is hilarious. i specially enjoyed JP/HP's faint and my man's million dollar smile.
Nani and khushi both are superb dancers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Look who iij here.. bhelcome Sohara,, I know Issk and Indi di excel at this dialoguebaji.. writer could have taken tipiya from these two..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

i have often wondered why i continued to watch ipk.

i do not really watch shows and am not much into movies or anything in a big way. couldn't understand why i had to had to watch ipk even though i was troubled.

have mentioned it before, i came to the forum on 27 march somewhere after the marriage, when khushi is changing every day and i can't get a grip on what's happening.

most of my early posts were about khushi. wanting her to remain who she was... defending her right to not wear strange wig, asking for a reasonable wardrobe, liking her as she was...

gadzooks, would i go to a thing called an online forum for any other show? and knowing full well it's just a tv serial start engaging in hot and bothered conversations about such a clearly "unimportant" thing?

yet i could not stop myself.

and i kept watching the show even when my nerves screamed for mercy, my brain said "bas".

and if i ask myself why, a few things come to mine... actually 3.

1. three guesses he he... barun sobti as asr. i could not walk away.

2. that understanding of love. no matter how much they forgot to tell a good story, the writers seemed to have a keen sense of an emotion. it was somehow always exciting, thrilling... maybe an almost 26/7 year relationship had taught me stuff and i knew what i saw on the screen was delightful because that is the way it was... the mystery, the unfathomable depth, and yet the craziness, the unpredictability, the need that surmounts all, and that thing in it that scales ordinary mortal calibration... i loved that... i wanted to know what happened to khushi and asr. when he saved her on that cliff top and then said he doesn't need proof, when they spoke to each other through another plane... it all felt well worth it. and of course when they noked and jhoked...

3. the jodi. there's chemistry and there's chemistry. this was explosive, but not only that... it had light in it. i am no saint, thank g, i have all the shades of light and its absence in me... you can have a dark, thick chemistry that takes you to not the best places in you. oh that too is valid and potent... but it is tied to the earth. barun and sanaya can ignite me with one look at each other, but it feels pristine, there is a joy there. a beauty. it's erotic, not dirty. it's energetic, alive, and bright. that not a single hint of dirt amid a consuming erotic appeal... i love that. and they feel so young and vibrant together. i actually have never seen a jodi like this. and words are inadequate really.

and i have to confess as far as i am concerned... if barun left the show, i would too. if sanaya left, i would miss her very badly, but i would still watch to see if things worked out. and if not, i'd still come and look only at you know who...



I guess no other girl on this earth can be so crazy for a hindi soap who born and brought up in the US. And that's me. Unbelievable.
I watched hindi soaps, with my mom, definitely not so seriously. but i don't know how IPK hypnotized me like that.
I started watching because of Barun and Sanaya. And their chemistry gripped me till the end. Either of them would've left the show I would not watch for sure. For me ASR belongs to Barun and Khushi belongs to Sanaya. Can't imagine or accept anybody else in that roles. If they would've killed any of the character may be i would watch. But ASR or Khushi is dead can't even imagine in my wildest dream.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: wiwy


Thanks In di🤗 Sounds important😳 Thanks to Durgey🤗 for coming up with the idea!
So ladies if you are done with answering or passing your answers by Friday, PM your vote for the Blasters choice best answer to me peeleej! All answers have been compiled on page 9 as In di mentioned.

For inspiration⭐️, here's Barun answering some riddles with a zest in an interview with Rangmunch.And enjoying asking the same questions to Arshad! At the end Rangmunch noted that Barun liked the game so much that he quizzed everyone on the set! You know now why I love manufacturing riddles!😳

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-FtMn84SQ[/YOUTUBE]


Haha, Indi that is quite nice to know.
Wiwy, I gave my naughty answer. I hope you saw it.
thanks for the video. i watched it before. Barun is smart. i loved his enthusiasm for answering the riddles.

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Originally posted by: IssK.



Enjoyed reading very much! The parts i turned red, i could scream and fight and kill for 👏

I'm finding it a bit tough to talk-detailiya on this episode, the more takes i'm reading. Wonder why. I do know it awakens feelings afresh for this thrashing,throbbing,thriving couple..makes me miss them more. Could've carried on seeing them fight forever methinks, most certainly. And it hits home though i've never stood on a bridge and fought...or... errr... maybe i have?😆

What i love (intensely so) is the unpredictable nature in which this "exchange", particularly on the bridge, unfolds. The retaliations and counter attacks are brimming with range and reality...and as you wonderfully remark :


but then things again went haywire as it must.

Fabulous, the lines you quote from Tennyson. Too fabulous.

Have told you already how i feel for the raw opening images...and i also find truly captivating, this one...




Wow!!!



thanks, issk.

yes, that shot.. fantastic. how do two thin not too tall people manage to tower so much, take so much of the frame.

(hey bhawan, grey yellow jootey)

i totally get what you mean about getting sucked into the whole thing all over again. i can watch these fights forever, just chatted with the man i fight with about the reasons i stayed watching this show, and spoke at length about this very one. we never forget to laugh about "you don't have a character." how can we, conscious as we are of a language that many still believe belongs to another. but that not correct language too seemed to have power... actually i see both of them going a bit "off" dialogue in their heated "exchanges" (give and take there, plenty), and i am glad no oene stopped them and said, make it correct.

too many things about the journey and slightly (no, phenomenally) reckless driving of an emotion are right. oh, maybe we should do a whole nach gana about "seatbelt" on this ride... no one was really wearing it, and it's a good thing they chose lonely spots to try out their skills because innocent bystanders would surely get mortally wounded. what am i saying, i was that innocent bysitter and look at my state now. 😆

so, you were on abridge too? ha ha, i recall roads in cities here and there. lots of not having a character.

while i was going full pelt into the jhagra's lines and hell factor, teh one i hae my exchanges withsai, "franfurt." i was, "what?!" he was smiling, "i remember i got off teh plane in frankurt and we were talking and you told e about thsi fight..." he still remembers.

ab kya boloon.

you are a movie person, clearly there's a lot of things you have seen and read and felt and understood, and know. you will sense exactly what i mean when i say, there are things in this basic hindi gec soap that scale and become classic.

in a rather interesting 45 odd minute documentary bbc made on rajesh khanna, there is a point where during a song sequence shoot in kashmir, they do about 20 takes of a simple shot. he is jumping onto a little rock, song on... cut. goes on and on. finally they get it and he is asked what does he feel about doing this shot again and again. he says, he feels really good, doesn't mind one bit. so what is the thrill? why? well... and he is so clear and eyes gleaming with involvement... it's that moment. when the foot touches the rock, and the beat comes just on it... and it's perfect... that connection, that thing... for that he'd do anything.

ipk has that just right beat on foot on rock feeling. again and again.

super soap teehee. remember rajesh k's eye thing? he did it for these guys, i wasn't even a fan and i hooted so loud, the maid came running to check if i were alive. that eye thing is there in the whole feeling of this bhaste dilli boy and that not middil killass ladki.

bridge pe milte hain. 😆 in venice, i was shown the rialto ji, par iss bridge toh too far hi le jaati hai mujhe, jis bridge ka koi naam nahin.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

I was watching the Janmastami episodes few days ago. As ASR and Khushi inadvertently tried to save the fluttering diya from quenching, it almost looked symbolic of their efforts to save Anjali's marriage each for their own reasons. While their mutual pain is palpable, it was terribly disappointing how Khushi or the Gupta family never really retrospectively regretted what they did. ASR unilaterally coerced her into marriage where as Guptas unilaterally kept a truth to themselves that belonged so dearly to the Raizadas. Efforts were put on to sweep a malignant truth under the carpet.. but as they say truth is like fire.. it will set ablaze everyone , everything that comes in the way...but it will prevail.. so will love.. and it did!!
A few thoughts while watching that scene..
(this may belong to a different thread discussing that episode.. sorry to post here)

Anjali

Her name reflected a divine offering

Warm are her ways that pulls one's strings

Alas she seems typhlotic to the darkness near around

As she worships a wanton to be her king

Arnav and Khushi

An errant wind blew.. the sacred lamp flicked..

Their hands rose to shield its sheen

One misconstruing the sweeping malice of the gale

The other blinded in love.. swindled by a chicane

Rattled by the tempest

Either set out to shelter a secret

The guardian angels inside reigned over their prudence

Not cerebrating any collateral ruins

Inside.. their reasons galore

She couldn't let sun set on her ocean

He couldn't hear her name from another man

Unilateral decisions made.. no one saving their hearts from above

when was it easy to be in love??


horizon, you are such a brilliant poet.
What a deep emotion you conveyed! how beautifully you wrote those lines, just took my breath away.
simply sublime.
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kizh, rhea, issk,

thanks so much for liking the siggies for thread 25... me bahut happy kaur ji while making them. especially the ajeeb one. so uff-fully ipk.

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