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Posted: 11 years ago
@indi 183
Finally I get the peace of mind to read an analysis. How prudently you define the multifaceted trait called ASRness. Your words transparent, reflective and sparkly just like the mirrors that surround them. Yes the man will attend the call for duty, but will manage to make her feel that she is the most loved being on this planet before he parts. And this irresistible amalgam of toughness and tenderness only she can understand and bear. Powerful write up, me breathless! Thanks for PM.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



i will rabba ve every day... promise. 😃🤗 thanks, kate.

Why you are moving to a boxy apartment? Seems like it turned out good for you. You can concentrate more on the sexy boy now.😉
Did you make this edit for me? You know naa, i love the suave angry young man ASR more than the sweet lover boy kind. Let me just paste my pic here.😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha


@sohara

I'm speechless after reading your take.
Really great!
Such a painful episode it was to watch.As you mentioned above that life is not a fairy tale and she will see the harsh realities of life. But my question is, didn't she see enough of it in her short span of life? What more painful can it be for a girl who lost her parents in the tender age of 8.Except her babuji, bua and amma always discriminated her. I noticed it several times in their behavior.But Khushi knows how to laugh in her deep sadness. I love Arnav, but my honest confession is i love Khushi more than him. And it was so painful to watch Arnav's misdemeanor to her.

The blue lines stood out for me and my comments are in purple.
All of your edits are beautiful, but this one is just wow!

Sohara always love your deep comments and keen observations over mine.Some how you always mention points within points and I love to read pronto when I see that you just read it.Thanks for that.
In red ...Yes she had seen enough but at the same time she got Babuji...Let me tell you a daughter always gets closer to her father and Babuji did an excellent job being an anchor for her.

Remember Epi 2nd when she was making jalaibis and Babuji comes and asks her what did he teach her...She answers
Khoon keh rishton se dil keh rishte bade hote hain...



That one dialogue which is so deep and meaningful and acts like a catalyst in this relation of her with any one ...That brings smile on her face.Did you notice how caring he is and treats her as a fragile yet giving her enough strength to beat the odds .She was an orphan but these Dil keh Rishte gave her enough strength to handle anything. Later she said to Arnav...Humain iss sab ki aadat hai jiji ko nahin...[I am used to for all of this not Jiji] She grows up in a lot of love and amma just scolds at her not in a mean way .You are taking it too hard only Bua did in the beginning yet her style of love is Ajeeb and at the end she is the one who will be standing up for her.

Khushi has a chance , has a fantasy of life because she was seeing this world through parents regardless they were not hers yet Arnav didn't have parents and his story got stuck in I WILL NOT LOVE OR TO BE LOVED AS KISSI KO ITNE PAAS NA ANE DO KEH WOHI AAPKO DUKH DE.[don't ley anyone come close enough so they will hurt you]..So what he did he needed some one and that some one was ASR , an Armor SHELL which he is putting on again and again.When he was 14 he couldn't do much yet saving his sister and doing everything for her is the mission and he turned 26 , a successful tycoon behind a mask...as Anjali said Tum ne jo ASR Khadoos wala chehra laga keh...[a face of stubborn ASR].Yes and that ASR is back again with vengeance...

I hope I made sense for you



thanks for making me understand.
Bua and Amma's character kept changing in the course of time. Bua definitely turned out Khushi's mother figure later in the show. But in the initial phase, she was shown rude to Khushi. In the 2nd or third episode I was so irritated on her when couple times she said that she is not their own blood. How she coerced her to marry shyam was impossible. When Shyam's truth revealed, instead of consoling Khushi amma became worried for Payal's alliance. then after her marriage with Arnav bua told her again that she is not their own blood.But our Khushi is strong, so that she could surmount every hurdles and won everybody's heart. she is an optimistic girl and know how to make people happy by hiding her sorrow. And truly Khushi is the perfect name given to her.
You are right that, she used to remain in the world of fantasy and laughter. No wonder the brutal fate shattered her sapno ki duniya.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

thanks for your lovely take, after a long time, gotta a chance to read you. You are brilliant, bol bol ke mai thak chuki hu, haina.😃 But seriously your perception, the way of of your writing is beyond excellence.
Significant episode indeed.You raised a question whom he loves more Khushi or Anjali. Though this is completely different kind of love, but still my POV is he loves Khushi more than Anjali. May be not now. But when he will come to know that he misunderstood her and abused her mentally and unintentionally physically sometimes, his remorse will make him love Khushi more and more. Right now may be his di is his world, his priority, but later Khushi will be his world and his priority. he will definitely say to her,
"don't leave me ever, I'll not be able to live without you."
or
"sometimes i feel, there is nobody else in this world except me and you."
It's true that his di is his responsibility. but his heart beats only for Khushi.

I also agree with you that Shyam's over acting was unbearable. his presence was giving me slithery feelings.

it seems there was lot of question arose in your mind after seeing the episode. Didn't think like that, but you really put me in thought now.
Good observation about the green tea thing. Is it a style statement?😆
this edit is awesome. You have to teach me someday. i don't want to learn now, cause I don't have time to make edits.😆


hi sohara,

haww stop giving me big fat head... not brill, just buddhi as in old, so pondering stuff all the time, bas. but thank you thank you i will take complimentiya and dance.

okay, about khushi and di... yes they were different kind of loves, from different parts of himself. and when i questioned, i did so rhetorically. because i feel we do often end up hurting the one we love more, (and give the one we love not as much)... because maybe we feel they can take it or it is in the nature of loving, don't ask me what.

of course, khushi was his life. he loved her with all of himself, some day even with his 14 year old self he'd possibly love her if he can open himself that much.

even at the moment he was forcing her, giving her ultimatums, dragging her up the temple steps, he, i believed, loved her more... she was that smile in him he'd never smiled for anyone... the heartbeat that hastened at a thought of her... that never went away, even when he thought the worst of her.

just a few days down, during holi... there will be the hamatri saansey ek ho jaati hai talk. he will say, main batata hoon tumhein aisa kyon hota hai... so he knows the answer well and is not shying away from it... she will forget the entire conversation. he will not. he never could not love her once that dhak dhak moment had come and become his. but he and she had to make a journey through hell to come to the undeniable truth of it... (for this perhaps as i said before we should thank shyam.)

if it had been any other woman, he would not have married her. for 6 minutes even.

he married her because he could not, not love her.

that is how much he already loved her. on that day that he saw her on the terrace.

later he told his di that he married her for di. we all screamed. maybe what he was trying to say was, that was the logical reason for marriage... his love made him want to woo her, his inability to not, not love had him marry her for his di; not throw her out of the house and threaten her with dire consequences for his di. complex.

it was only in khushi's response to his apology, that a clear indication is given that he did everything because he loved her... she said as much and only she understood the why of that terrible moment.

something rather lovely in that.

everything was because he loved her to distraction and beyond.

he slowly learned how to accept that love into his life and give the future a shape... let the past not have such a hold over him.

me bak bak... but this love of asr i find so intriguing... if anyone else would have done what he did with her, i'd be pelting stones and raging, but with asr, i feel his madness, his pain, his love... how did they create such a character?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

Why you are moving to a boxy apartment? Seems like it turned out good for you. You can concentrate more on the sexy boy now.😉
Did you make this edit for me? You know naa, i love the suave angry young man ASR more than the sweet lover boy kind. Let me just paste my pic here.😃


ha ha, sohara, yes soon plenty time in that boxy one. okay i have not fought for him till now, but really the absolute angry, mad at the world asr is all mine... i just adore the fellow with his scowl, with his monosyllables, his wooden walk, his broken heart, his gorgeous smart mind, smiling only once in a way for his loopy di. loved his early days flat, unmodulated voice too... arnav singh raizada ka nishana kabhi nahin chhokta... phenk do, once in a way a very delhi punj accent... dead inert eyes... oh i loved it all. remember him at teej, watching her, then running to catch her, jumping across steps?

mmm you want him?... okay i'l give him to you on condition you never let him become too sweet and soppy. preserve the angry hotwa. yay.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: viv04

@indi 183
Finally I get the peace of mind to read an analysis. How prudently you define the multifaceted trait called ASRness. Your words transparent, reflective and sparkly just like the mirrors that surround them. Yes the man will attend the call for duty, but will manage to make her feel that she is the most loved being on this planet before he parts. And this irresistible amalgam of toughness and tenderness only she can understand and bear. Powerful write up, me breathless! Thanks for PM.


hi viv,
i wanted to pm you, glad i did. thanks so much. oh how well you put it in pink. yes, this asrness. mmm. and why can't i fault it? 😆 only she can understand... only she. maybe a bit of that amalgam in her too... so she can sense it... even trust it... and forgive without fuss. one of the most brutally beautiful moments of love when both scream to the other "i hate you." the complexity that we really are, someone in that team understood and our actors explored with a fierce honesty...

thanks for reading. breathless? i love the state. teehee. i write too much, maybe don't make much sense, but i am looking for these guys and me somewhere in all of that i guess.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

Awww So sweet of you thnx ,you remember my most fav scene...🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗


Thnx Soni❤️



always di
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Posted: 11 years ago
happy karwachauth
who are celebrating
i am very busy
so can give this only
some blue edit from
my side

Edited by salooni - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



hi cynthia...

i have often wondered about that in pink, especially in the last 10 years or so.

and last night i told my daughter very seriously, that one thing she must do is have a profession, one she loves and commits herself to and earns money from.

i said, of course you will marry, have kids, everything, but always be financially independent, because if you are, the things you want to do, you will be able to do without making someone else pay for them. which is only fair. and also you will hold your own.

after about hundred years of living i have understood one thing, the one who is the main breadwinner has the final say. what you did or didn't do around that whole winning of bread rice daal biriyani is secondary somehow.


not that it should be. but it is.

even in the most loving and cherishing relationships, this seems to be the case.

so while i would not like her to be compromising on things that matter just to earn money, i would like her to be her own person financially... you may earn less than the person you live with... but you should be able to run the show, live your dreams on your own earnings if need be...

told her, you never marry someone for their money. and you never give up on your own responsibilities.

i grew up in a world where it was ok to let the guy earn while you did the home thing. if you wished to work, you did... it was just something you did... nothing much depended on it other than you "occupying" your mind. it was almost a shame to say, hey i need the money i earn... i like the money i earn... your chief place was that of "wife" and your worth depended a lot on how your husband was faring at his job/business whatever.

i am not a very evolved sort, never questioned it... love was my main hungama, my search.

now years later, as things have changed around the world i live in, and i have agreed and disagreed with things... i have come to not only realise, but value independence in the money thing. of course, if you need to, you depend on him, as he should be able to on you
(i always felt that actually, still do).

sadly, i have never worked hard at creating a career or a bank balance. with my lack of money consciousness, it's permanent bank imbalance.

miraculously though my small salary did help in a meaningful way in getting done something that mattered to me
. that feeling taught me a lot.

i have rambled i know... but i know what you are feeling. i hope you do earn what you wish to... but keep john ecstatic will ya... he's too good looking to be made to feel bad... samjhi aap?



Thank you for this chat, dearest both, C and I. How much there is to grasp, and grab with both hands in your words, unbelievable. Love has never been my "my main hungama" (i love that expression btw, utterly brilliant, one that i've usurped right away!!), not until this show supervened it's way into my heart...and i've always been an independent sort... yet, i never quite completely understood the depth of what you two know and believe in.

I was sitting outside a nightclub with a group of people, wee hours of the morning, co-incidentally in Singapore, Indus...at clark quay a few years ago...we'd been at a forum for a few days and it was our last night in town i think. People bobbed and bounced around us and i sat soaking it in, next to a very smart older woman, a co-participant at the forum...and out of the blue she looked at me seriously and said something very similar. I couldn't get the context and i didn't fully understand her either. When you marry or have a partner, she said, make sure you have a bank balance and a space of your own, and you'll always be the girl you are now. I nodded politely, not the slightest clue what she was really saying...

I'm reminded of her words for the first time today after reading your chat. I'm a career person, haven't worked hard at "creating" it either, it has just come naturally...the money, i have earned and not bothered much with or respected. But perhaps i should learn to. The lines above in red from you two, i feel like i need to imbibe them and not forget. It makes perfect sense what you say and feel...how do the men in your life take it, is my question though...should one be asserting this kinda thing or going about it quietly? I know that may have come out silly and stupid but humor me, do please!

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Posted: 11 years ago
IssP I somehow get the same feeling what you wrote you miss out a lot especially when you land up managing and up professionaly ,many meetings I am the only woman and then I forget and think myself as a professional and then back home the feeling you can do any thing do not need me to pamper you so have to forget yourself as professional but with mobiles they seem to intervene in your personal life sort of feeling your bank balance and earnings and assets last thing in your mind and I know the feeling Midas went through😆 when you are managing a lot of people and traveling I alone😆 ahh now no more of that talk miss lot of small interesting things in life


and me on IF and watching shows my hubby always teases me but then records and keeps all the episodes of shows I watch and scolding me to sleep when I get down to watching and IF and between work how I get here nice to have your own space at work and all gadgets😉😆

ok back to work
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