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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: cinthiann1758

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Episode 148

Guess Who's Coming For Dinner?

Unbelievable he says. She has worn the towel as a dupatta. But something has changed in Arnav, he seems different, changed perhaps, softer, gentler even when he scolds her. He drives the car backwards and stops in front of her house so she can change. 👏

Anjali and Kushi are working on the arrangements. Anjali hands Kushi the phone to continue what Anjali started. Interesting scene the two men of her life, ASR and Shyam enter. One comes first, ASR, she stops and they gaze at each other and I am not sure what is the emotion they are feeling right now maybe confusion, relief, embarrassment? I do know that they feel for each other but now it just needs time to blossom. Then comes Shyam, he is happy to see her and he smiles and she just walks away. I am thinking revulsion as her emotion. I am thinking something much worse

Shyam comes down wearing a white shirt and goes to Anjali. Anjali becomes upset and starts reprimanding Shyam. Kushi sees this. He is trying to convince her that Anjali is not nice to him. Giving her reason to believe him and his story about the Raizada's and his marriage. Anjali scolds him and leaves telling him to change his shirt. He converses with Kushi complaining about Anjali. 😡 I just want to slap him

She is ready to go, Anjali comes and asks if she is leaving. Kushi lets her know the list she was working on is on the table. Anjali would like Kushi to come back tomorrow. The sari merchant is coming and they need to buy the favorite saris of Nani from Lucknow. Anjali would like Kushi's help. Kushi recalls Anjali words to Shyam. It seems Kushi sees Anjali is becoming rather bossy, maybe? But she answers she will come back tomorrow. If you think about it anjali is really bossy in nature but she does it in a sweet way...maybe no one can decline her since she asked so sweetly

Shyam has changed his shirt and Anjali asks him why does he do that to her? He says t keep the romance alive. 🤢

Kushi is laying in her bed and thinking about Shyam's introduction by Anjali to her and how the family praised him and they said Anjali loves her husband so much and would do anything for him. Kushi doesn't believe that Anjali is not nice. She has known her for a long time.

The RM is all-abuzz. Mami isn't sleeping all night thinking about the wedding and her low status future daughter in law. There is so much work to do an Anjali is complaining just a little. They are waiting for the flight to come from "kidney" Mami says. Silly girl you mean Sydney. Akash tells ASR they got to get out of there doesn't Arnav remember who is coming. ASR says he forgot to send the car to the airport and Akash says it has been taken care of. I love mama ji and mami ji's scenes

Mami is complaining to Arnav and Akash. They want to leave and as they turn to go they hear,

"Maasi!!!"

Guess who's coming to dinner?

Mami calls everyone. He's here! They ask where is the voice, in your head?

Guess who's coming to dinner?

ASR says to Akash, "just let's go" and Anjali asks him why he is so afraid of him?

Guess who's coming to dinner?

The door opens.

"Maasi!"

Guess who's coming to dinner?

With a Spanish flare the music blares, with castanets clacking you can almost see the Flamingo dancers dancing, he comes prancing in. The colors of India around his wrist on a sweatband, rolling in his suitcase, shades on his eyes, Knapsack around his varsity jacket, he is supercool.

this whole entry reminded me of joya bachan and srk in khabhi khushi bhabi gham (i don't know if you saw the movie but it is a must watch)

Guess who's coming to dinner?

NandiKishore.

NK.

Mami is so excited to have her foreign nephew home. He takes blessings from all. Mispronounces some of the Hindi words and we learn that he has difficulty with the language. Arnav and Akash try to sneek out but NK calls,

"Nanav"😆

Anjali snickers.

"Nanav, meir bhai, give me a hug."

"Arnav"

We now know NK's name for Arnav is Nanav. He is just going on and on and on. He congratulates Akash for his engagement and then says the same to Arnav but halts himself. He says sorry for the broken alliance but that someone else will come around. Arnav answers whatever.

He goes to leave. Anjali calls him, "Nanav!" Snicker, snicker. She want to know if he will be back for lunch. He leaves and Anjali snickers again. Nani says that NK should freshen up and eat and Mami says get ready to dance. The dance instructor is coming. She is a little strict and she will scold you. They show NK to his room. While Anjali and Shyam stay behind.

Guess who's coming to dinner?

NK

Guess who's coming to dinner?

Anjali tells Shyam, Kushi should be coming in a minute.

your analysis made me giggle, especially at nk's entry!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha



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ARSHI"S INDEX

Episode 142-Part 143

Revelations and Realizations

Goodness from heart and forgiving nature is a virtue and not everyone has it.Its a quality of courageous ones .Evil always seems invincible but at the end it always falls and goodness always takes over.Khushi is the only one with big heart and Shyam seems a winner here but she is the one who will take him down always with all the goodness she has.La is also showing some traits here in this epi.

Love parallel scenes here for bringing realizations at different level

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: Arnav will bow down to Khushi's goodness in her mother's garden... 👏

Shyam always underestimates Khushi by measuring her goodness with weakness. nice thought

Symbolism and connection:16th the day of engagement

16 means destruction of the old and birth of the new. It is about the fall of the ego. This can be a painful process, because it usually comes after much ego inflation. The struggle between the ego and the divine will present challenges to your grand plans, which can be resented and struggled against. It is a lost battle, and you will likely feel humbled in the face of the collapse that follows. This humility is the key to later success. In the destruction of the old, rebirth takes place with an entirely new awareness. This rebirth affects every area of your life. It is a life much the better for the fall.CONNECTION IS SIMPLE I don't need to explain a lot '.Arnav will go through all and will transform'though a painful process for all under this # as La will go through with pain for letting Arnav have his way of happiness'. 👏 i always loved your number symbolisms!!!!


Arnav's mind is preoccupied with convulsive Khushi who just poured her heart out on his shoulder.Her distracted state is distorting his mind while talking to Aman and he tells Aman to fix a meeting on 16th, the day of his engagement which becomes a question for La."how could you forget that ASR'Our engagement is on 16th'"


Arnav turns around with his flummoxed mode'.but La is not done yet,"you are the one who was in rush ..tell me the truth "Did you forget it or it really doesn't matter to you?...Arnav with puzzled and apologetic way''"No it's not that '."mein itni saree cheezain handle karta hoon 'khabi khabi kuch pata nahin chalta..[I handle so many things and can't figure things out] and the internal true realization of ASR comes to his lips today,

"Mein jata hoon keh jane anjane mein main ne tumhain bohat chot pohnchaye hai'par who isliyeh keh mujhe khabi pata hi nahin chalta..phir jab realize karta hoon ..I really regret that..i really do..bohat bura lagta hai mujhe..par main kuch bhi jan kar nahin karta Khushi'main bas aisa hi hoon shayed'."

Translation:I know I hurt you intentionally

and unintentionally because I don't realize it that moment but when I do realize it,I feel really bad..I really do..but I don't do anything purposely Khushi..I am just like that'

Today Arnav is released from the Armored shell of ASR.His remorseful actions from Sheesh Mahal till now are making him realize how much pain he caused Khushi just because he knows her fianc caused her that much distortion in her as she was totally devastated yesterday then how much she would be devastated by his actions and words all this time.

This is man in love'..without realizing it though this deep feeling has indeed sep into his cracked shell and today he has no control over it.He is expressing his love with intensity and with honesty but without realizing his surroundings..This is the biggest effect ever which he admits it later"mere aur tumhare elawa is duniya mein aur koi nahin"[There is no one else in this world besides you and me]

La by holding Arnav's shoulder,"ASR,It's Lavanya".. and he turned around realizing his mistake.I don't think there is much you need to explain here after that.La conveyed while getting the message and now it's an eye opening moment for Arnav... her dream world offically came crashing down after that

They both share really intense meaningful look.Arnav,"nahin who mein'.by closing his fist.La leaves him wondering about his own acts.Reality just knocks the door of Arnav Singh Raizada,"yeh kya kar raha hoon mein"and he starts connecting the dots willingly which he was putting aside in his ego and then realization just hits his hard core"mein ne La keh saath sahi nahin kya 'shayed khabi bhi nahin"'..


PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:In Epi 48 he brought La against everyone's wish and when he said to Jijaji how come without marriage La does not deserve respect but that day he did not know the depth of it'and when Jijaji told him "kaman se nikla huwa teer aur zaban se nikla huwa shabd khabi wapas nahin liya ja sakta'Zindagi koi video player tou hai nahin keh rewind button dabaya aur ghalati sudhar li" 👏

Translation:you can't take ur words back and yiu can't rewind your life back like a video player i reallyloved this line

Today again he is standing at the same spot to redeem himself from both ends.Khushi and La. 👏


He comes down and distracted by pensive Khushi who stops his feet ,he scans her face and regardless does not want to leave her but moves away from there for redeeming his act towards La like it's now or never...He has to mend it'...Why do I feel in his look to Khushi that his determination becomes more strong to end up with La with honesty putting his ego and all the Fadak aside'...but at the same time does not want to show Khushi his worries and concerns about her which he couldn't hide from La'...


Anjali gets worried with Khushi's sadness and shows her concerns.Khushi Sees Anjali struggling with her Mangalsutre while greeting her. It breaks right and falls right in Khushi's hands'...This is called Fate'...BG scores intensifies the situation..Anjali's pensive state looking at broken Manglasutre takes her in Mandir where she prays for long life of her hubby.Khushi witnessed Anajli's devastated condition and her "attot Vishwas"[Faith] in her marriage and her husband'...She looks at her mother [DM} and puts aside her motive for coming here'...being honest is not worthy here in her eyes so lying and hiding is the way for the sake of Anjaliji..


She assured her by giving promise"Anjaliji don't cry everything is fine'...your husband and your marriage..and nothing will happen'...I promise you"..She is leaving it up to her mother,DM '...

Anjali is arranging Puja for his safety which makes Khushi exasperate more.Anjali asks her the reason of her worrisome face.Khushi clutches her Dupatta which reveals her bare finger to Anjali with the news of broken engagement.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: She always keep Slither's intensions hidden from her'and even brings Scorpion back for her sake against Arnav's wish.

Anjali is the one who will break this mangalsutre after his confession to release from this EVIL.

If this side being honest is hard and lying by hiding truth is the solution then other side only truth is the way out

He ends up in La's room who wants to keep running from her inner fears of that reality which she knew for a long time but did not want to accept it'...an known fear hits her core when Arnav puts his hand on her shoulder to make her face it along with him.Arnav holding her cheek by comforting her."La,Tum jo mere liye feel karti ho '...shayed who mein tumhare liye feel nahin karta ..aur shayed khabi kia bhi nahin..par ab aur jhoot nahin bol sakta'...infact ab aur jhoot bol kar tumhain aur insult nahi kar sakta'...La yum aur mein'...yeh shayed'..."

Translation: La whatever u feel for me ,I don't do it for u'...and I think never did'but now I can't insult you by lying..

These are the words of an honest man no matter what his actions are'...and La knows this man ,"mujhe laga hi tha tum mujh se yehi kahoge"[I knew you will say that to me]

"Kahin na kahin mujhe dart ha humare rishte ka yehi end hoga..you know ...'without a name.."[I was afraid our relationship would end without a name]

They both turn their faces as it's hard to face the antagonism and wrath of this blow is too much to handle.

La while sobbing,"I knew it but did not want to accept it...'was lying to myself all the time '.."

"itna jhoot bolti rahi keh mujhe woh jhoot bhi sach lane laga"

[I lied up to the exten that it seems truth to me]

She requested hi to hug her last time.and oh boy his hug says it all ,no words are required to convey all of his pain which he is going through now...'by looking at her state which he caused her.He is right "mujhe khabi pata hi nahin chalta but when I do ,I regret it"

La is right sometimes you don't have answers of arising questions.I must say girl like La is hard to find as it's against the nature of a woman'...but if you find one that is the best thin ever happened to you and that happened to Arnav as he found Khushi who was above all of this'...


If the other side one relation ended so did here and that is Fate as it closes one door and opens the other with welcome sign.If one side wants to keep their matters aside for the sake of family so is the other side.

Khushi wants Anjali to keep it as a secret from the family"Sab ko dukh pohncha keh humain kya milega"[What will I gain by hurting everyone?]She does not want anyone feel bad or stop enjoying their own happiness..She is a selfless cookie.

Anjali by feeling her pain,"aur aap ke dukh ka kya'aap janti hain aap humain kya keh rahi hain"[and what about your pain'...do u know what are asking me to do?] and the other side Arnav wants to tell the whole family together but La wants to put hold on it ,La,"I know what am I saying...'everyone is so happy..this is not the right time"


She wants to keep it till Payesh engagement because it can get affected and it increases her respect more in his eyes.Arnav"I really respect you for this"

La by hugging him ,"You respect me but love'..."She still leaves it incomplete as she knows he is not sure yet'... i felt so bad for la here

La's big words,"I don't want you to ever feel guilty for this..I mean it" she really gained some maturity from all this

And they decide not to reveal anything yet and the same is on the other side..Anjali agrees upon not telling anyone about her broken engagement.Anjali asks very meaningful question with deep conerns as her guts telling something else'"Khushiji you want to talk about something else too. Right!"Khushi diverts her question but it didn't sit with Anjali.She strokes her cheek with love and ask her to take care of yourself and Khushi leaves with heavy heart. i wish she did, she has to face the truth eventually...who knows she might have been strong


Khushi comes home and tells everyone the reason that she can't break Anjali's marriage and Payel's relations .It doesn't sit with Payal but Amma becomes selfish in this process.Buaji is right though it is important to break the blind spell of Anjali.She hugs her Sanka Devi for takig such a big decision.I am with Buaji ,truth always saves you from hell.

Symbolism and connection"9:30 on the clock as 9 represents the world of spirit,soul and matter where 30 represents a cycle of nature.Connection Khushi with her divine spirit along with DM is going to touch souls of Arnav and Anjali by going through unfinished matters 👏

[Bible]In Mark9:30 means is this

Mark 9:30-32, "And going forth from there they were journeying through Galilee, and he was not wishing that any should get to know it, for he was teaching his disciples and saying to them, 'The Son of Man is being delivered up into the hands of men and they will slay him, and being slain after three days he will arise.' But they were not understanding the declaration and feared to question him." i loved this connection

Connection is easy here as Khushi is putting herself in a plate to sacrifice and she will rise but after paying big price.

Other side whom Khushi just saved being jerkasaurus as this is small thing for him.Buaji is right you can't get your loose grip on these kind of people.Anjali with sobbing,"yeh rishte rait ki tarah kyuon hote hain ,inhain jitna muthi mein band karne ki koshish karo utna hi phisal jate hain" [Why these relations are like sand ,the more you hold it the more it slips through your hand ] Why do I feel strongly she knew all this i felt the same way...i mean she found him leaving all the time suspicious and CVs couldn't connect it later'...Her dialogues are clearly reflecting here and while she was talking with Khushi'...She was smart and she figured it out but writers did not figure it out later..What a pitty. towards the end, the cv's got the case of amnesia...i felt like they got a new set of writers and just threw anything that came into their mind without any logic

Why do I feel she is killing two birds with one stone...with love and softness she is keeping him around as she thinks and making Khushi feel guilty as according to her "aap ho tou itne se par baatein bohat achi karte ho"[You r so young yet talk like adults] on her anniversary...point is Anjali thinks she is just a young woman...but she does not know Khushi is way mature than her... agreed


MOMENT OF DAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxYfSrkhWR4

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxYfSrkhWR4[/YOUTUBE]



Loved your analyis as always...looks like you did your research as always!!!!!
my comments are in green
i wish anjali was told the truth by khushi and she did not change her mind
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Posted: 12 years ago
@ArshiH
Thanks for reading.
Enjoyed all your significant comments.
You are right, dark cloud named Shyam is coming to her life like a hurricane. It's just strengthening to attack vigorously.
I really loved this line.
Deep meaning opening wrap as he is opening new phase of his life which he can't understand just like he can't read the cover of the manual and has difficulty reading her letter
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Posted: 12 years ago
@Anita
Thanks for reading.
I loved all your comments.
I absolutely agree what you said about La's perception about Arnav and Khushi's relationship. She knows ASR very well. when she felt that ASR's love for Khushi is real, she just couldn't refrain herself to give him this precious advice,

When Arnav sees, Khushi is still stomping, he admonishes her to stop. I love how she was just running in place, would she do that if she was actually nude or anything...which makes no sense

your comments just cracked me up.
It's my pleasure that you liked the VM.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



ha ha, loving this conversation.

horizon, jab we met was not my thing because i have no vibe with kareena, but shahid kapoor was lovely (ami, sun rahin hain aap) and he was named after my husband's first boss (a beautiful man), so i couldn't help but watch... the romance element in it was so mmm, that line is too good in the great hunt for ipk context. not being able to "manao" anything and more than six months of dire starvation has taken me to writing fan fic 🤣.

you are wondering about the state of your mind, cynthia is yelling at cable guys... too good.

craziness unlimited? lunacy? losing it? maybe it's time to start a something called... ipk and its lost it girls, like peter pan and the lost boys, we ain't growin' up and stoppin' that dreamin'... tinkerbell is there somewhere surely... c'mon, some pixie dust and ipk at the right hour where cynthia, horizon, and indi are (i am not getting the re-telecast, despite being willing to pay extra for another cable operator... 😭)
... and some day soon ipk season zwei.


Indi, Kareena is NOT my thing either, but its all Imtiaz Ali.. Imtiaz Ali.. all over..I haven't seen anyone else there.. except the director.. I am very much a director's viewer than actors. Romance was great in that , my fav scene, when he comes to Simla searching for her, and from a distance watches teary eyed this chatter box like girl sitting in a corner quietly eating her sandwich.. and all the ensuing dialogues between them. Only movie I know all dialogues in recent times.. ofcourse that is becos it belonged to pre IPK time. Post IPK haven't watched any movies until English Vinglish and Talaash recently. There is another BW movie that touched me a lot in recent years.. "Jodha- Akbar".. I might make a separate post about it at some point as that so much resembles a Khushi and ASR story for me!

Sorry that you don't get it, perhaps time to bug Rajan Sigh's equivalent in South East Asia. Hugs for that in red.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52


hi,

never knew about those grooming classes, thanks for the info. must say, it gave him something. you can see bits of asr in bhph (recently saw epi 131, dishy and that sexy thing), but the leap from cute gangly shravan to asr... something.

you read my post after that ja rahi h episode... and remember? me grateful, delighted. wonder what i'd written. i used to be totally concerned about the two lead characters and write about that, the remarriage freaked me out and a long post on that too. but the thing of changing asr and making him "acceptable" that killed me. i remember writing why create him if you can't live with him.

honestly, in my life i do not want a naitik, a sooraj, a mr bajaj, a mr kapoor, i don't want any tv hero really... but asr i don't mind. 😆 i'll take him with his gussa, his arrogance, his edgy attitude, his slightly superior air, even around me, the works. and if he should ever slip and start forgiving my ruinous decisions with gentle smiles and soft kisses, i'd pay a shrink to get him back into being his awfulness. really.
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Indi, here is what you wrote for the Ja Rahi ho epi. Still in my inbox as you PMed me with response to my comment!


You made posts for all those others? Wonder how I missed those as your style of writing is something that would stand out for me any day. Glad to be here to be able to read you again what all I missed then.

ASR any day with all his attitude intact is much the guy I would like than the sugar coated TV damads.. alas.. they tried to make him one!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
@Samin, @Anita
Thanks for liking my poem 'A girl in love'. 😊
@Samin
My daughter too would be at the back of me for a sibling, my mother nudging her sometimes. She's given up now, but she's not happy with the situation. And that trick you suggested, I've tried that too, but she says she's ok, will manage. 😆 Aww, my poor baby. But, she does get possessive if I play with some other child. 😆
Hope your daughter had a great birthday party. Wishing her a happy birthday in advance. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Indi, here is what you wrote for the Ja Rahi ho epi. Still in my inbox as you PMed me with response to my comment!


You made posts for all those others? Wonder how I missed those as your style of writing is something that would stand out for me any day. Glad to be here to be able to read you again what all I missed then.

ASR any day with all his attitude intact is much the guy I would like than the sugar coated TV damads.. alas.. they tried to make him one!!



many thanks for reminding me of that post. oh, i remember that day, so much talk and disappointing news all around. i was also quite upset about some things. then suddenly that episode... i had to write a piece on the main forum dedicated to it. glad i did, because when i read it again, still felt right, and the magic of those days came back. thank you for remembering. i am saving it now in my index, and i am honoured you liked it so much. thank you.
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Originally posted by: indi52

vampish vulture 😆

durga, thanks for this poem. la deserves much. a unique character really. and so much like many of us. i highlighted your introduction because i fell for it. that's where the writing was for me. and your refrain... for she was a girl... in love, has the power of a song's refrain. i can almost hear it. me totally love this. i want to see what happened to la... some day. and i don't mean if she found a man. there was always potential in this flakepot with a kind heart who didn't think much but when required to, thought deeper than most, a rare maturity and giving in her. people are like that. felt real. (the ridiculous let's make la duh scenes notwithstanding).

here's to round round.



Thanks for loving the poem along with the introduction too Indi. And yes, that was a song's refrain. Of late, I have been having music playing in my head for most of my poems. I guess, this is the first time for an English one. Yes, it would have been interesting to see what happened to her, of course without putting her in an awkward position. She could have her own story.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



i am itna itna itna touched, durga ji. thank you... lovely song. and that movie so needed bs and si.

Indi, was watching the movie Sat afternoon, while I waited to get back the lappy. Had tried to watch earlier too, but in parts and couldn't make out what the plot is. But, I finally did that day and realised that the story was going back and forth in mainly 3 time zones. Reminded me of your story. And when this song started with the word 'itti', I knew I had to post this as I was still chuckling intermittently remembering your posts that morning. BS and SI in those roles, wow. Don't want to dream, because want it to happen in real. Roles like these and better ones too. Don't know about season 2, but both of them pairing up again and that too for movies is something we can surely hope for.
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