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Posted: 12 years ago
All your discussions reminds me of what Francis Bacon said about books applies here for shows as well some you don't want to see some you see once are not much bothered about if you miss here and there and this show IPK makes you watch again and again
its appeals to feelings within you the story shooting acting the team work only towards the end It was horribly butchered but still the acting team kept their chemistry and made it watchable , very few in this category I don't remember how many times at one point of time I read Gone with the Wind cant say that about its sequel
"Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested: that is, some books are to be read only in parts, others to be read, but not curiously, and some few to be read wholly, and with diligence and attention."
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chalhov

Arshi nice to see you back your mother recovered well . Also your system/LT back working an a lovely long Chakyravuh analysis of one of the sad tracks of Arnav Khushi romance both getting engaged to partners not meant to be . Arshi lovely take enjoyed all the lovely beautiful ceations and points my comments in blue and loved all the underlined portions and colored ones more.


Thnx chahlov and yes he is complicated of coarse even she will say that he will turn it around her make her spinning around him .😊 That's what he wants but why the heck she supposed to wait for him as she means nothing to him.BUT he has amnesia at this lovely age.😆as Indi has the long description than mine why the heck you care Mr Raizada.

Sorry Chahlov for the length but what can I do there is so much and I do the whole epi with everyone,sorry can't leave anyone as they are all part of this beautiful experience.

Awww Thnx for Dar song Shahrukh and Juhi fav movie and love you for the oldie one Asha and Sunil from Chirag 👍🏼 as I am song Lady ,very few movies settle with me .More kind a versatility sets with me.
Once again Thnx for liking connections and edits
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chalhov

All your discussions reminds me of what Francis Bacon said about books applies here for shows as well some you don't want to see some you see once are not much bothered about if you miss here and there and this show IPK makes you watch again and again

its appeals to feelings within you the story shooting acting the team work only towards the end It was horribly butchered but still the acting team kept their chemistry and made it watchable , very few in this category I don't remember how many times at one point of time I read Gone with the Wind cant say that about its sequel
"Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested: that is, some books are to be read only in parts, others to be read, but not curiously, and some few to be read wholly, and with diligence and attention."


Love "Gone with the wind " classic .Thnx for this chahlov.Yes I think I am stuck with this show for quiet # of months ,years God knows as hard to move on.I don't find anything interesting.
Hope everything is fine Chahlov.Take good care of yourself as much as real life sucks and drains you but still there is something is always in front of you to keep you on your toes.Hurts yes of coarse but after every Amawas there is a new moon with new hopes.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ina211

Ok ladies, just a thought in my head. One of those "What if" questions.
In the episodes after the revelation of Khushi's engagement, Arnav asks Khushi:

"Khushi, meri sagaai ho ya na ho. Aaj ho ya ek saal baad...tumhe is se kya farak padta hai?"

What if instead of what Khushi actually said...she said something on the below lines:

"Haan Arnav ji, aapki sagai ho ya na ho, humein farak nahi padna chhaiye...lekin farak padta hai. Us diwali ki raat bhi humein farak padaa tha jab aapne kaha tha...us sab ka koi matlab nahi...phir bataiye humein farak pade bhi toh uska kya fayeda?"

What do you think Arnav would have said/done?

I feel, by saying what she actually did, Khushi not only shielded her heart but also saved ASR, because, even though he wanted to see that Khushi ko farak padta hai...he was in no way prepared to deal with it...if indeed she said so. Not at that moment...not till much later!

But what would be interesting is to know what you all think, different insights to this much intriguing character!

Interesting thoughts ina211 and yes he has no clue how to handle that and that was the biggest reason he shoved her off the Diwali night too because of his past and present confused state.Maha complicated this dude is right now.

I have another angle if she says all this ,he will turn around as he never faces the truth and will make up a story as always or deny it completely and will hurt her more and she at this point is trying to move on as he said she means nothing so why bother regardless her heart only beats for this Kadoos.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

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Episode-131

As much as they try to go far from each other, destiny keeps throwing them together. When God found that this two lovers are too stubborn to except their love, so God is making another plan to unite them through their siblings. God made Arnav and Khushi for each other.
True its plain fact that destiny is playing role here
Shyam asks Anjali about Arnav's engagement ring, what reminds Anjali about the ring Motilaalji was talking about. She asks Shyam is he hiding anything from her. As usual he lies to her. But he certainly looks a bit scared. he gulps his fear. So when Anjali asks to get hot food for him he refuses. 😡😡😡

Everybody is busy with the engagement preparation. Anjali is talking with the flower suppliers, mami and La are discussing about the deserts to be served in the party.They see Akash comes wearing a shirt inside out. La teases him why he is wearing the shirt like this and why he is blushing as well, Is he going to a date? Mami gets annoyed to hear this. Akash is really blushing to hear about the date. Arnav comes and gives a file to Akash as he is going to office. When La tells why chamkilli is not coming yet, Arnav agitates a bit. May be he is getting restless to see her after their last night intense convo. He recollects what she said after his misdemeanor last night, "I know I exist or not, it doesn't make any difference to you" He decides to go to office. La and Anjali get sad to hear that, as there lots of preparation is pending. He promises to come back in two hours. Akash also doesn't want him to accompany him. He insists that he can manage. But Arnav wants to take a look by himself. He tells Akash to join him in the car. When Akash starts to leave wearing the shirt inside out La reminds him again. They really are suspicious about Akash's aberrant behavior.
pause: why Aranv wanted to evade from Khushi?. is he feeling guilty to face her after those excruciating words what he said to Khushi or he now doesn't want to make her realise the farq any more?
My POV is first he is hesitant to face her as always he runs away from facing the truth and he turns around.
second He hurt her badly and humiliated her and her tears and words after that affected him so much
Third yes it matters to him as La just had her name and he goes in her land ,it is making him realize her absence means a lot and this FACT is going to play a major role here when she will cry on his shoulder and will not disclose anything to him because of his mistrust on her ,and he will not find her whereabouts and he will go crazy then he will flip and snap out but in front of La by thinking Khushi.As I said in mine from now on When Khushi will leave or fear she is not in his life he will go nuts as he is always 😆
Shyam is talking with somebody about some gift, where he was playing with a gift in his hand. When he sees Anjali he tries to hide the gift in his pocket, what didn't go unnoticed by Anjali. She gets incredulous again why he hid the gift from her.

In the car Arnav is asking Akash about the meeting preparation. But akash is lost in some other planet. 😆😊When he doesn't response at his query, Arnav looks at him and sees that he is fixing his hair. When Arnav loudly asks him, he answers in promiscuously, "yes I'm going there for the meeting, don't know what she gonna answer?" When Arnav hears he said jawab dengi, he gets confused, "what" Akash asks him how is his shirt? .Arnav says him that the guy Mr. Sharma is not coming to see his shirt. Akash who was quite oblivious about the meeting comes to his sense that he is supposed to go to a meeting. He tells Arnav to stop the car on the midway. Arnav is bewildered, "will you meet Mr. Sharma here?" Akash says that he will meet a new client here. And of course the gender is female. After fixing his hair again he gets down without shutting the door. I love this bromax scene ,it shows their love and concerns for each other but Arnav was completely flabbergasted on Akash behavior😆

Payal is pacing back and forth looking at the clock, counting how much time is left for the rendezvous with Akash. Khushi is running back and forth also. She is already late, cause has lots of work to do. Payal is counting time, it's 9:40 Khushi, it's really late. Khushi gets ambiguous, "do you also have to go somewhere?'
Same here

When Khushi was waiting for the auto on the road she sees Payal also is going somewhere. Payal rides an auto in haste and drops her wallet on the road. Khushi calls her name, but she doesn't hear. She picks the wallet and gets skeptical, "where did she go?"

Anjali is precarious, thinking, to whom Shyam can give the gift what she saw falling from his pocket. When she was in deep thought Shyam calls her to check her room, as he left a very important thing in the room. When she opens the door she gets flabbergasted to see the sight. The room is decorated with numerous lighted candles and Shyam is already in the room. He tells her that he was intentionally talking on the phone to create suspicion in her mind. He thinks it's good to play pranks in love. He gives her the wrapped box. He opens it and it's a beautiful ring for Anjali. She tells him to put it on her finger. Anjali tells him what is the occasion that he is celebrating so grandly? Shyam knows how to cajole his naive wife buy mellifluous words. He tells her that Anjali herself is the celebration. Anjali gets so enamor at his loving words that forgets everything and hugs him warmly. Shyam is smiling wickedly by recollecting his convo with Motilaalji. The guy called him and already let him know that Anjali came to know about the ring. He is exulting his triumph.
POOR Anjali and this shatir Slouchy Scorpion who is ready to sting her again and making her belief strong towards him .😡😡😡
Arnav follows Akash to give his phone.He finds him buying anklet from a shop.He calls him, but he doesn't hear him. He looks quiet oblivious of everything. Arnav starts to follow him.

Payal somehow manages to pay the fare of the auto and goes inside to the cafe. Akash comes right after her and Arnav is behind him. Khushi also reaches there. In haste Khushi forgets to pay the fare and the autowala calls her back. She pays the fare and rushes to follow them inside the cafe. In the cafe both Arnav and Khushi starts to search their siblings. After a while both find them and call them simultaneously, "jiji" "akash". They looks at each other hearing their voice. Arnav starts to yells her that what she was doing here. Cum on man, don't forget she is not in your den now, so you can't scream at her now. Khushi hesitates at first but then she realises that he can't scream at her here. she charges him instead, "what are you doing here." Aranv gets mad, 'I'll go where ever I want to." Khushi is no less, She also emulates him in same manner, "same to you." Uff wrong english! She knows she didn't say the right thing, but doesn't know either what are the exact words should be. She again says "same to you." The waiter asks them do they need a table for two? Khushi answers, "two, one for him and one for his pride." The waiter stats to smile at her words, what infuriated Arnav more. They go to different direction to search their siblings.
LOVE his reaction before turning around ,he was delusional how could she be here but then again hides his expressions under anger ...Tum ..Tum yahan kya kar rahi ho and she first takes it her responsibility to give him answer but then again same anger why are you here ...as you said so many times Tom and Jerry

Akash and Payal meet, but Payal is in hurry. Akash requests her to sit down first. But Payal refutes. Akash tells her that his mom is going to fix his marriage. Payal tries to stay ramrod, "so, did you forget what I told you?" Akash tries to remind her what he told her. He asks her again that, doesn't she like him? on the other day she also left without answering him. He needs her answer today.
Arnav and Khushi both find Akash and Payal talking to each other. Let's see what this quarrelsome sibling do now?
Love this scene as coming up will open one more dorr of Arnav's brain which he closed from Sheesh Mahal as he is responsible for the breakage of her marriage

I wanted to post this VM during the diwali track but I missed it. I think it is the most appropriate song and VM to depict Arnav's feelings on that night.Thanks to nandini for making VM with this beautiful song of Chris DeBurgh

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👏👏 good one sohara .This is light track after the heavy dose and enjoyable.My comments are in red.❤️
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha


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Episode PART 124-125

Ring[Chakarvyue ]'PART 3 Continue

Chakarvyue is getting narrower as relationships are shaping at different level.The bond of Anjali-Shyam,Akash 'Payal,Shyam 'Khushi, Anjali-Khushi and even Raizadas-Guptas is shaping according to the position of Arnav and Khushi .They are the center of this chakarvyue which started a long time ago but came into action during Diwali.

1-Shaping circles of Anjali-Khushi-Shyam along with family around these

Anjali brings Khushi down where all the house ladies congratules her but Khushi's convulsion and pensive pain is reflecting from her face.She tells her fianc name upon asking and everyone stops at one moment but Anjali resolves the issue as there are so many Shyam other than hers.Mamiji's 007 nature is worth watching as always.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: Anjali is always love to have this blind fold as after revelation 1st time she still blames Khushi and Arnav..not Shyam.

When Anjali snatches the phone from Arnav's hand and receives the call but Shyam's ground shakes with Rani Sahiba's voice ,I wish ground would open and he slips through in as he tells Khushi his disgusting date plans'Yuck!


La and Anjali overhears this but Anjali becomes dubious after hearing Shyamji from Khushi's mouth..hmmm..but she also notices Khushi's convulsion again.This time she askes with concerns ,Is everything allright?She senses something is wrong but Khushi smiles with faade by ignoring Anjali.I wish this smart Anjali we had all along but we got Di Ki Saut track.-


Slouchy Scorpion hesitation and irritations are worth watching when his Rani sahiba tells him Khushi's fiance's name.He antagonizes but again his artful slouchy moves keeps him at peace but Anjali does not let him make any story to cancel the date and DM saves our Khushi from this scoundrel.

Symbolisms and connections:Anjali said to Shyam "if you see yourself in the mirror you will find his name"Shyam's reflection in the mirror meaning his true picture is clear to him 👏 great catch!

but he has no clue behind the scene as he is totally unaware of Khushi-Arnav- Anjai triangle.He's been totally blind how strong the relation is in between Arnav and Khushi.

2-Circle of Akash and Payal

Other side The cicles of relationhips are getting stronger too.Optimistic Akash ad his auto love is racing through her front door to patio and then her kitchen window,He tries her best to convince her to think about him and not about his status and family.The only wise thing he says today,"Just tell me do you like me or not?" Payal's tears rolls down in the answer which brings a hope on his face ,"if she didn't say yes ,but didn't say No either."

3-Circle of Arnav and Khushi


Arnav with chastening pain watches her Di giving Khushi a loving hug of blessings and but his view over her finger with other guy ring is like inflating venom in his brain which is ready to spittle in madness.They both share the turbulence of their overwhelming emotions along with RabaVe .He vociferates at her ,"Khushi"..but her ignorance fumes him and He grabs her phone while she was talking to Buaji '..

Khushi,"Yeh aap kya kar rahe hain.hum baat kar rahe thay"[what are you doing I was talking]


Arnav in rage,"mein bhi baat kar raha tha"[I was talking too]hmmm'this part grabs my attention the way he asks her with his face gesture couple of minutes ago [as shown above]he is referring here."Kya kar rahi ho tum" - he is just way too good here isn't he? he is in terrible pain and comes through in his voice midulation

[what are you doing ..the voice modulation goes down as he is pleading '.Khushi ignoring it all,"hum ne kya kia".[What did I do?]

Arnav in rage and bafflement,"tumhari sagai ho gyae,..kaise'tum ne mujhe batana zaroori nahi samjha..Kissi ko pata kyuon nahinn hai"[you got engaged'how'you didn't even bother to tell me]hmmm.Why she supposed to tell you she meant nothing ,girls like her have purpose behind everything'not a single girl matters to ASR then WHY?

Khushi in quizzical mode,"aap ko iss se kya fadak padta hai"[why does it matter to you?]

Arnav grabbing her fiercefully,"Mujhe iss se fadak padta hai Dammit' kyuonke'.[it matters to me because.]His ego and fear stops him completing his sentence'.he just keeps starring at her with agonizing eyes'.which are delivering his message which he can't verbalize'..

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:AND Khushi despite getting humiliated, taunted ,and degraded by this tycoon still cares about him,loves him and understands each and every gesture of him.She does not need words'''never forces him 'Jab man kare tab bata dijiye ga [Whenever you want tell me]to all the way hum jante hain aap bhi who sare pal jeena chahte hai[I know you also want to live those moments] to hum jamjhte hain [I KNOW]for submission

Khushi also remembers this before her dream and after Arnav's 1st confession "I love you"'which he supposed to finish here'..

Anjali intercedes and wants Khushi to come down to share her big news'.

Khushi turns around aberrantly to assimilate and understand his pain and he turns around for giving her gesture he doesn't care by swallowing the pain but he can't hide this from her.


Her heart knows but she is helpless here in these egocentric walls which he is guarding around him . - totally agree, i feel the same way,s he knows but she would'nt admit it b/c of his behavior

She leaves him in unfathomable pain by hugging her gobs as both of them are walking parallel at the bank of the same river but she wants to move on.


Pause here:Khushi is a fighter and her belief on DM "she is with me all the time" gives her strength all the time .Its Arnav who never let her move on.Even after contract marriage fight ,she tried and she did but he brought her back always by hook or by crook.

Standing there looking his life walking away felt same but circumstances are not same ,he can twist the game back at his terms as Arnav Singh Raizada khabi haar nahi manta"'..[ASR never loses]There was the moment when he was helpless,couldn't do much for his parents but not today.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:FROM now on every time when Khushi will go away from him or fear of losing her is settling in his mind as he makes ways to get her back,forced marriage or blackmailing whatever works for him to keep Khushi around him.That fear was at the edge when he almost loses her after kidnapping and he will take a promise from her for not leaving him on Bachelor's night."mujh se wada karo mujhe khabi chor keh nahin jao gi"[Promise me you will never leave me..]

He is not at peace until he gets her back at any terms'..He can't let her out of his sight as today the very first time he felt strongly losing her.His jealousy seeing her worrying about other person over him is intoxicating his blood with the venom of possessiveness. He can't handle it as he does not know how?What to do ?How do make things work again?But he has to and he will at his own terms.Yes now you know how does it feel ,right ..when you put her go through like hell announcing your engagement ,and at the top you declared your intensions by telling her "koi matlab nahin hai "[You don't matter to me]then why now?His clenching jaw and glaring eyes delineates his state of mind at her while holding the phone while she gazes up and then steps back sensing his intensions but still concerned about him. - aSR is really something when it comes to his Khushi 😆 he like a little kid

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: Khushi felt strongly jealousy at the bachelor's night when she wants to pull the witch hair'.all the way down to Sheetal track. On the other hand Arnav always feels jealousy,from NK to Shyam and all the way up to reporter during Mrs India contest'


In their Eternal Heaven,he is on the mission to destroy every toy to take out his frustrations on her mother as he is angry again at her,why is she taking away something precious from her if she just gave him back under the stars.It seems he is angry at her parents too as Khushi hurt him but why its ok for you to hurt their child but in return she can't do that to you ,may be that's what these twinkling hearts of yours making you understand..Stop hurting her but you are not listening'..still doing the same and thinking the very same'


In his contortion after her declaration of engagement,"yeh humari sagai ki anghooti hai"[this is my engagement ring] and La's burning teasing words,"dekhona chamkilli kitni impatient ho rahi hai apne honewale husband se baat karne keh liye"[look how Khushi wants to talk to her fianc impatiently] his agonizing pain was taking life of these plants.Khushi sees his impudence and


He hurt his hand badly and Khushi tries to stop him but his speed gets faster and so is the fear around Khushi."Why are you talking like this'and you are not even paying attention?"

Arnav furiously,"mein kya karoon .. tumhain kya fadak padta hai"[why it matters to you] just like she did 'Ok so now you want her to realize "it does matter isn't it?"He is deeply hurt by her engagement and at this point he wants her to acknowledge it.

He hurts his hand and Khushi's heart with staggering pain "Dekh na chot lag gaye ap ko[you got hurt]as he doesn't let her touch him'but gives her romm to see his inside scorching pain which is written all over'.



PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS; khushi snatches away her hand after the fight before Delhi mein Baali 'hum issi keh laieq hain na' tou sehne dijiye na [I deserve this pain so let me bear it]




Khushi jerks up along with him when La puts meds on him'and that isn't gone unnoticed by him either' La asks Khushi to help but he declares his intensions in a negative answer to make Khushi feel guilty and bad'..but La forces her.Khushi takes his hand and wrist in her two hands 'such a beautiful assurance from her side as if she is saying if you let me I will hold you '.He is at peace with her touch as "meelon ki thakan door ho gye eik lamas bhare haath se"


As he excogitates at her each move' with his side corner eyes and assured nonchalant La he is happy with her and their marriage.He declares and repudiates to Khushi while telling La,"Aakhon mein dekh kar sab kuch nahin jana jata'.Jo nazar nahin aa raha iss ka matlab yeh nahin who hai nahi"'[u can't find everything by looking into eyes,if there is nothing it means it does not exist]

Bingo so taunting has big meaning ,He wanted her to understand through his eyes which she did understand but wanted him to say it but he wants his ego chin up.He is bleeding her heart with his words and knows it.He lies to La clearly in his war with Khushi,"I am happy..may be you can't see it but I am"When La gives him a peck,he gets a relief seeing Khushi's uneasiness with jealousy "Fadak padta hai" '.Both are yearning and bleeding internally for each others' proximity and love in this desert of ego'.


He congratulates her in a taunting tone ,"ajeeb baat hai na, jis din meri engagement announce hui tum mujhe wish karna bhool gayen, aur aab tumhari engagement hui to..[its strange you forgot to congratulate me for my engagement and now your engaement']

"Congratulation Khushi Kumari Gupta, tumhe tumhari..and Khushi's phone rings'

and then he sees her unhappy and uncomfortable talking to her fiance but her talking and paying attention to someone else is unbearable for him '"sab tou tumhari shaadi ki baat se bohat khush hain par tum"..lagta hai tumhain abhi abhi pata laga hai keh larka ameer name hai"''.[everyone is happy you're your egagement but you'it seems you just found out that the guy isn't rich]


Khushi stares at him in confounding way as she can't get him how come a person be so brutal and so gentle [during bandage..Nainital'etc] at the same time.Shaitan and Rajkumar'.She is unable to understand him..Why is he doing that? ..to punish but to who''me or himself..If he is angry so is she ,he throws daggers in anger and she delivers silence in anger. - I feel she knows and understands why he is acting like this ,but i do see you point about her thinking shaitaan or raajkumar.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:Again the similar taunt in the office before GH incident '.Tum jaisi larkiyan khch bhi bina maqsad keh nahin karteen"'[girls like you don't do anything without purpose].But why do I smell he wants her to snap ,so he can say and declare his right on what is his''but she leaves him numbed and hurt without saying a word but conveying him everything through her eyes and he did the same.

Khushi always break contacts and become silent as she did with DM after marriage and same after Heer Ranjha track with Arnav and same during Sheetal track.👏 great point!

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Hi Arshi! that was an aswome read. some great connections and pondering points. you and read the same on Khushi's understanding of him but also her fear of admiting. my comments are in red :) btw all the edits were fab esp the first and the one Arnav holding her shoulders.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Arshi! that was an aswome read. some great connections and pondering points. you and read the same on Khushi's understanding of him but also her fear of admiting. my comments are in red :) btw all the edits were fab esp the first and the one Arnav holding her shoulders.

Thnx Ami for sweet comments and feed back.
Below here I know she knows it but his words contradicting her thinking here "koi matlab nahin" as we saw the show and we know the outcome and that also covers a lot of our thinking but here she is just coming out of that and during bandage he made her clear more than ever he cares and her view of Rajkumar and Shaitan is making her confuse as after this she goes home and tell Payal yahan tou Rajkumar gussaile inssan hote hain as he is her Rajkumar and she can't think anyone else and thats why I am saying this a lot his engagement has no meaning for her until that moment when he tries to put it on and she jerks.This is the time she is getting him and trying to connect the dots.MY POV

Khushi stares at him in confounding way as she can't get him how come a person be so brutal and so gentle [during bandage..Nainital'etc] at the same time.Shaitan and Rajkumar'.She is unable to understand him..Why is he doing that? ..to punish but to who''me or himself..If he is angry so is she ,he throws daggers in anger and she delivers silence in anger. - I feel she knows and understands why he is acting like this ,but i do see you point about her thinking shaitaan or raajkumar.

Once again Thnx for liking the edits and connections along with review
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani


Good thought Samin, at that time i don't thing she knew that she loved him, After Nainital and then Diwali week and lastly Diwali night changed everything. Now i believe she's fully aware that she loves him, and it hurts b/c she can't do anything about it. I think that's why she can't say it anymore.


You know there is this strange thing that is at least true for me that we DON'T talk about things that either we DON'T care about at all or they DO matter to us quite a lot, ofcourse its the second case here! Yes, she does know by now what she feels , but its intensity is so much that she just can't mention it!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 124

"yeh humari sagai ki angoothi hai"





his face lost all structure almost, all the hardness, the set jaw, the sharp gaze, the imperious lips, the utter certainty, the air of dominance. this is my engagement ring, she'd just said, and even if the echo hadn't been added to her voice, the music hadn't been tweaked, the slow (yet almost instant) wipe and falling away of all expression from a face, captured by a staggered pan would have told the tale and more. there was a crashing sound in it and it was picked up by my heart. i felt the draining of everything in him. a wind rose somewhere far away in a desert and blew across the wide expanse in seconds to sear through him; a howling, hot, merciless phenomenon of nature, swarming around, entering his heart carrying the dreaded words and tossing it everywhere, reaching his mind, his soul, his being. was there no escape from it.
I just carried away with your beautiful words of ASR's state of mind.My heart also ached severely for this ever unhappy man.


i had been wondering for a couple of days, when i was forced to take a break, if indeed all was well in my ipk and barun world, or was my fantasy world crumbling. was the boy really the actor i thought he was? did i still feel the dhakdhak? yes, this too did happen, believe it or not. because not only were there the demands of family and ad, there were the mood swings of dailymotion. days went by without my watching anything. so many attempts to see 124, only to get stuck in the middle of backless choli scene. finally, the stars aligned and i saw the episode. again i realised, it is one thing to remember content, but another to actually watch the performers in action.

when this scene came, i knew the gold i thought i'd found was indeed that, no sign of dross in it. and i knew it straight in my heart as that expression hit it where it ticks. there are several brilliant actors in this world, many much more proven in their art and experienced than the young man i was staring at. but not one has reached my heart the way he does. every single time, har baar.
I know Barun is just too special. there is nobody like him.

six months since we saw anything new from barun sobti. many rumours about the film he's made. no idea when it will be released. shooting for the 22 yards project pushed back by rain. sometimes a strange thought in my head. was it just a mirage? that shaking up of my reality by someone on a screen, that talent one could almost touch, that startling energy and sexiness?

all the doubts and worries gone in an instant. he will be back. would like to dedicate 124 to barun sobti, and pay tribute to his talent. this was his episode really.

his eyes seemed to bore into her, shocked yet entreating. tell me it's not true, they seemed to say. how could you do this, how could you... no. in episode 4, with glance icy cold he'd spoken of the world that was "bedard," heartless, where only money and power mattered. how hard he'd strived to give his heart this shell, this protection of material things, yet here was dard. again. she was engaged. she whom he couldn't fathom, who broke through his thick fortress walls every time, who got right under his skin, she whose every tear hurt him, with whom he could get angry, upset, completely besotted, bedazzled, but could never ever remain indifferent... what was this she just said.

the dhakdhak stayed long, rumbling quietly within, gradually melting through and becoming a part of heartbeat.

the day had begun with an altercation. they'd walked into each other, his papers had flown all over the place, he'd demanded an apology from her, she'd refused and said no way. of course, the argument had continued till she stomped off with a won't apologise, and to you... never. what was it with khushi. didn't she know that that's exactly the kind of thing he couldn't leave well alone? he'd find a way to retaliate. or maybe, one of her layers, that dupatta girl, wanted precisely that? oh, such lovely understanding of our contrary and striated characters by the writers.

curiously, and reflecting the same contrary thing in us, he'd dropped his phone in sheer surprise when he saw his nani dance to placate khushi, but he hadn't raved and snarled at the scene. instead a little quickening in his eyes when she reciprocated la's little flirtatious overture and decided to give in. got to say, sanaya was so fluid and lovely in that bit of oo la la swing, anyone would have succumbed. he'd actually gotten quite caught in the moment and smiled as he watched his fam go bonkers and so happy, also this exasperating woman do her loving giving thing. but of course, when their eyes met, he had to return to a closed look and walk off.

in the meantime, the ring is back with him... and he knows it's hers. she'd all trepidation walking into his room. he looks at her, remembers her yelling, "haan haan hume pata hai ki aap arnav singh raizada hain..." yes, yes i know you are asr, but i will not apologise to you, i will say sorry to anyone but never to you, "
aur aap se toh bilkul nahin magenge." had he not remembered that, i have no idea what would have transpired. but he did. and the most wicked expression ever came into play. he was gonna have some fun.

a sweet smile planned revenge... "toh yeh tumhari angoothi hai." so this is your ring, he demurred, starting the game.

"ji, hume de dijiye." yes, give it to me, she returned not gauging mood, a little imperious in her choice of words.


not acceptable. "tumhe kya laga, tumhara jab man chahega tum iss kamre mein aaogi aur mujhe order dogi ke ring de do... aur main lauta doonga?" what did you think, you'd walk in whenever you like into this room and order me to hand over your ring and i'd do that?

this is asr, do not mess with him. whatever his feelings for her, he will not take that tone from anyone lying down, especially from her precisely because she matters; he so wants her to be his, hanging onto his every word, and there she goes defying him. unbearable. basic personality, hard for him to fight it. the duel begins in earnest. "kya kaha tha tumne, tum kissi se bhi mafi maang logi par mujh se nahi... socha arnav singh raizada se badtameezi se baat karke bach jaaogi? ring chahiye? sorry bolo." what had you said, you'd ask anyone for forgiveness but not me? thought you could be rude to asr and get away with it? want your ring? say sorry.

it was still somewhat playful, shards of the famous temper, but shades of naughty too. the little girl of 8 and boy of 14 never too far way when the two are together.
absolutely agree. they two are two big kids.

"sorry? kis baat ke liye?" sorry? for what? oh she's in no mood to give in.

how adroit the handling of escalation of war by writers, it's not in one jump ever that they reach a point of no return. always a to and fro, a provoke and attack and a rise of pace. i remembered the moment when he dropped her from his office... also had come on the back of this dueling they engage in no matter what when where. the only time they've both lost their heads and let it be what it longed to be was diwali night. but through many harsh words and hurtful encounters aren't they really always articulating just that very longing? that frantic desperate need for each other?
very well said. they actually can't stay indifferent to each other's act. And the reason is love. there is no place of indifference in love.

his anger pushes up. "sirf sorry nahin... kaan pakad kar maafi magogi." just sorry won't do, you'll hold your ears and apologise.

she storms off. keep waiting for that apology in which case. he'd said the ring was important to her. but it wasn't. not really.

the ring was important to them. it was meant to bring them to that moment in the rising hot sahara wind, when a man's world would fall apart and he'd make a connection that his tongue would not have the courage to utter, not because it lacked guts but because a heart had hurt too much and feared getting shattered again. and she would look into his eyes seeking answers to questions she'd not even asked herself yet knew they were there, she wanted them answered as though life itself depended on it.

he'd have thrown the ring... had it not been for the knock. beside himself with anger now, he was brusque, "kya hua, ab kyun ayee ho?" what happened, why have you come now?

"kya chahte hain aap?" what do you want. the tone has gone more tense now, thick... adults in place.

"main kya chahta hoon tum acchhi tarah jaanti ho... maafi mango." you know very well what i want... apologise. he is insistent, flint in his voice.

she begins to answer, but he cuts in, he wants his pound of flesh... "uh huh. kaan pakad ke..." uh huh, hold your ears.

devilish smirk... he's winning.

"sorry." she was humiliated but helpless, that ring she must get back. that ring not important to her.

and he was just settling down to enjoy his victory, when the tear in her voice caught his ears. he looked up... and in less than an instant, a shift in his eyes, so quick, the smile didn't have time to adjust. just the eyes... and a leap of emotion... a complete change.


"kitni baar bolna hai?" she was nearing hysteria in her pain...

"sorry sorry sorry sorry... sorry sorry sorry..."

"khushi?!"


he was up, and before her in a trice, holding back her hand from catching the other ear. he couldn't take that hurt in her voice, eyes, face, everything. the game had gone too far.


"sorry..." she went on like an automaton.

"shh."

he couldnt see her like this. how could he bring her to this state. that easily awakened gussa of his... he picked up the ring and returned it. rabba ve took note of the intensity, the remorse of the moment. a man and a woman in a place where nothing is as it should be.

then a beautiful thing happened.


as she struggled to slip her ring on, hands trembling, unsteady, he took her hands in both his ever so tenderly to help her. she watched mesmerised. perhaps her heart wanted this moment, this putting of ring on her engagement finger by him to be true. but had he not said he was marrying another... so what could she do but agree to that alliance not of her heart... the one that meant nothing?

then she remembered, and pulled her hand away, "aap yeh angoothi nahin pahna sakte," you can't put on this ring.


he was surprised, taken aback at the vehemence in her voice. perhaps all he wanted to do was slip it on, on to her delicate finger, absorbed, engrossed, wanting just that. this was perhaps the first time ever he'd held a girl's hand like that and taken a ring in his to make her wear it. tenderly, patiently, lovingly. he hadn't even done it for the girl he said he'd marry.
pondering thoughts. after reading your lines I suddenly realized how cum Arnav didn't think that he was putting the ring on a girl's ring finger? I guess he forgot everything for a moment and subconsciously wanted to make Khushi, his love his own.and I absolutely agree that he probably never would touched a girl's hand so lovingly.Khushi is his. he can do anything with her.

but she said "yeh humari sagai ki angoothi hai," and the whole world blew away, leaving a deafening silence, a suffocating emptiness, a death almost of breath.


the ring slipped from his leaden fingers and plunged down. like his heart probably at that moment. the low angle shot transited to a close up of a club foot in black shoe under a lovely pink saree walking into frame exactly where the ring comes to rest, a delicate hand with manicured nails picked it up slowly. di had arrived.👏👏👏
very well written.

perhaps someone had sent her to save him from this slow constriction of his senses. he returned to reality and walked away, she turned slowly toward di, numbed by all that had happened, emotions in turmoil, storm within.

a beautifully laid out scene.

anjali, with characteristic gentleness, put on the ring for khushi ji, admonishing her sweetly for dropping off this ring so valuable to her all over the place. khushi choked back tears as this whole world tumbled around in this crazy game of rings and engagements. rabba ve entered frame.

she looked at him, for her eyes just wanted to seek him now, now that she'd said the words and he was looking the way he was, what was happening to them her gaze seemed to ask as she watched him watching her. he turned away. no one was allowed to see him so vulnerable, he would hide all his pain, he would take care of it all. only the song seemed to know how far deep in he had been cut.


we are not perfect... certainly asr is far from it. but the heart surely is pristine. 👏haanh, nahin hai dil asr ke seene mein, he'd told her the day she had come trying to patch things up between him and la. but there was always that heart in the man. that heart that yearned, that longed, that wanted to fight with a girl and then wrap her in his arms and never let her go, kiss her by the poolside, lift her to his heart, never let her be hurt, yet tell her she meant nothing... didn't she know he said it because she did mean so much... some might say, she meant everything.
I ponder the word pristine, ASR's heart is pristine and beats only for Khushi.

"lagta hai yeh ring aapke liye bahut his special hai... bataiye na iski khasiyat kya ha," di wants to know what makes the ring so special.

he looks at her as though asking her to break his heart again and again with those most hurtful words she has said... 6 words and his world reels, his heart aches... his breath stops... he can't focus... he can't...

"aapki shadi hone wali hai..." di is delighted, you're about to get married. he is struck by the meaning of sagai again, it means marriage...

two people, apparently not meant for each other, in fact now beholden to others, what is the thing that makes them ache so much for each other. does this have a name this intolerable feeling?

di leaves, and a long long moment in that difficult evening. two people stand looking at each other, pain and complaint in their eyes, yet who can say anything, now that they find themselves here in this forlorn juncture. rabba vey has never sounded more lost.


then the phone rings, but...

"khushi," he needs to call her, he needs to be angry again. now.

"haan, buaji," she answers her phone, not him.

"khushi!!!"

"angoothi mil gayi," she's found the ring... he grabs her phone abruptly.

"yeh aap kya kar rahe hain.. hum baat kar rahe the..." what are you doing, i was speaking... she's angry, perhaps this time she too is using anger to mask the pain.

"main bhi baat kar raha tha..." i was speaking as well, his voice is throbbing with pent up something.

"aap kya kah rahe hain hume samajh mein nahin..." i don't understand what you're doing... he stands there, arm swung back holding her phone, face tilted looking at her with a question and something else in his eyes, just looking. an emotion enters his irises, his face begins to show things he rarely does, a pursing of lips, a flaring of nostrils, emotions he is trying hard to control but they will not listen. she is moved, confused, shaken by what she's seeing.

soaked, salty voice, "kya kar rahi ho tum..." what are you doing. the edge of surf, white foam, touch of salinity, all guard down.

"humne kya kiya..." what have i done?

"tumhari sagai ho gayi... kaise... tumne mujhe batana zaroori nahin samjha? why... kissi ko pata kyun nahin hai ki tumhari..."

and it's all torn out of him, tide rising higher, gushing uncontrollable, submerging dry land, you are engaged... how? you didn't think you needed to tell me? why... how come no one knows that...

oh my sweet arnav singh raizada, "tumne mujhe batana zaroori nahin samjha" you ask. how is she to know that she needs to, even if she wanted to? didn't you tell her she means nothing to you? don't you understand she's too young, too inexperienced to know when you say that you mean the opposite. yet how you long for her to understand exactly this, don't you. someone to understand you as you are? someone to love you no matter what. and that someone is this girl right before you. khushi. the one whose name sounds different on your lips, the one you dream of, and fear losing. father betrayed you, maa went away, the world broke trust. you barricaded your fragile dil and said to h with it. yet something inside always wanted that one. the one who would release you. be yours. and you'll be hers forever. 👏👏👏khushi.
"tumne mujhe batana zaroori nahin samjha?" he'd ask her that on a ravaged bridge months later again. always that need to be important to her. mean something.

though she knew he hurt, she felt her own pain too keenly still. she flung back:

"aap ko isse kya faraq padta hai..."


angry, ferocious cry from a girl hurt by him too many times. what difference does it make to you? the classic question.

he caught her and jerked her close...

"mujhe kya faraq padta hai?!! mujhe faraq padta hai, dammit, kyunki ..."
i can translate the line all i like, but i'll never catch the tone, the texture, the velvet under the fire, the desperate wanting wrapped in violent words. what difference does it make to me... makes a difference, dammit, because -
so true. His emotions, the timbre of his voice is indescribable.



and the struggle starts... to finish a sentence... to release the heart into the emotion... into this moment. faraq padta hai. makes a difference. he has said that at least. at last. and as she stares at him speechless and he holds her gaze but can't say a word, yet that slight swallow of his says it all, rabba vey now racing pounding insisting yearning loving submerging.
The moment was too impenetrable for both of them.

the ring had a job to do and it's kept its promise.
brilliant writing. for asr to get to the point to say, yes damn you it makes a difference, one had to have a situation as harsh as this.

"khushi ji..." anjali came and took khushi away. she did look back of course, he quickly hid his face, but did she see it?

he stood there, aching. then his nostrils flared a bit, he tried to control himself, just the slightest swallow... yes, it was there... a tear in his heart.

rabba ve.


very beautifullly written Indi.
all the underlined lines I loved most and my comments are everywhere.
You said it right, it was truly ASR's episode.We really were lucky to witness the various shade of Barun's brilliant acting. I also fear that whether this extra ordinary talented sexy actor's talents goes waste or not.

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@ Ina and Indi I think so that the entire cast of IPK was talented, not only SARUN, PAYASH , Daljeet, Abhas, NK Utkarsha ji, Abhaji, Pyumori ji and all. Even in the absence of Barun or Sanaya the rest of the cast had pulled the show forward. I wish too that Sanaya had participated in Jhalak. As for Madhubala, QH would not comment because do not like bashing any shows or comparing them with SARUN. One reason our show was facing difficulties was because every single episode we had someone comparing SARUN with PAYASH or Sanaya with Payal and Daljeet, or something. Now retrospectively watching I think they all did a fabulous job. I really want my IPK back with the same cast, a new rabba ve. And as for the show losing its charm- they had not even started their life- I mean two months after marriage was not enough.

Samin, Agree with you about not bashing other shows, but some times laying an eye on them and watching the mediocrity only helped me realize that all the intensity of the characters and the magic of chemistry we all rave about is after all NOT a hype of some crazy biased fans but it IS indeed there for real!! How ever crazy fans we might be, some times we need this ratification to satisfy our rational sides! I was watching few days ago that epi where ASR hurts Khushi again after the kidnap, regretting why she came into his life at all and all. In that entire epi, there were ONLY two faces on my screen.. and I didn't blink a sec neither did I feel bored. Oh yes, there is some thing called a real chemistry in any kind of a scene! And there are many epis like these!

And agree with you about the entire ensemble should come back if and when that season 2 happens, can't compromise with anything else!

Appreciate your optimism about the show not loosing charm last 2 months, but unfortunately to build some thing is a monumental effort but demolishing doesn't take as much time/ effort. In those 2 months they could considerably deviate the characters from the initial self to almost unrecognizable. I would have been rather happy if there were no specific tracks at all but they rather showed them waking up and proceeding to their regular chores and camera being fixed at RM. I have n't watched some of those epis as my father passed away around that time, and I don't even plan to watch them until we discuss them here.
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