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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: supriya.arshi

New Arnav nd Khushi VM's By Zoha
its too cute 😳


Tom nd Jerry Game with One Aim

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Yuq3ukso4[/YOUTUBE]

this is too good 😉...

Why (Kya Kar Rahe Hain aap" when "Hum Jaante Hain"?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivlwxKnlNPY[/YOUTUBE]

Watch out for the endin in both 😳


⭐️On my God seriously Zoha is too good fantabulous.Thnx supriya for sharing it.👏👏👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
Originally posted by ArshiHamesha



DISCLAIMER:DON'T COPY MY WORKS AND CONCEPTS WITHOUT GIVING ME CREDIT

YOU HAVE SEEN MY HUMBLE SIDE. TRUST ME YOU WON'T LIKE THE OTHER...

PART of 83-84

Arnav's sorry to Khushi [PART 1]Practicing Sorry

Redemption , rectification , and atonement with pure heart compared with seeking forgiveness by tattered and disreputable way is just like comparing clean water with dirty water.Arnav's attempts towards seeking "maffi"[forgiveness] are coming from a pure heart without any insidiousness and Shyam's sliiiding moves for saying "sorry" is filled with canny , crafty and cagey games as"Dhun aur mun dono chanchul hain"[money and heart both are playful].- wonderful comparision Arnav is a man of golden heart where two things are in abundance, Ghusa[anger] and pyar[Love] and both comes from his pure heart.On the other hand in Slither's heart there is only one thing "Laalach"[Greed] towards money and Lust of Khushi.It is saying "zun , zar , and zameen [money , woman , and land]is always a matter of conflict .Shyam has "Huvus...Laalach"[greed] of all three.Money of Arnav, Khushi , and Shantivan.In the war of good and evil ,Purity of goodness always wrap evilness in its vortex to crush it forever.

Shyam's deceitful, deceptive, and delusive moves to make his Rani Sahiba perfect for his ATM machine are inadmissible to watch at least for me.I feel so bad for Anjali who has lost her parents, is disable, has lousy husband and at the top later she will lose her child too[The worse side of IPK at least for me]😭-me too, just awful!!

Love the family's interaction and hide & seek during this oppressive drama as this will tear their hearts apart during Shyam's revelation after kidnapping.

Symbolism & Connection:Motia[Jasmine sambac] represents attachment ,sensuality and modesty in between couples.In India Jasmine flower represents a divine hope. Shyam will take this relation up to the mark where Anjali will be the mother of his child which is her divine hope but her blind attachment towards him will bring a lot of devastation in the families[Gupta as well as Raizadas]There is no attachment or sensuality with Anjali from his side, his divine hope and attachment is only MONEY.Baby will be another reason to twist the matter.

He did bank today a sensual scene with Anjali."wah kya baat hai"But I have an objection over here how did these two idiot brothers couldn't see the real motives of this Slithery Jijaji.[Oh well Logic and IPK are enemies don't tell me I know that]😆

Shyam our Slither has one thing good as his slimy and sly moves always bring our Arnav and Khushi together no matter what.His meaningless "Sorry" is making Arnav realize his Akhrooish mistakes towards his temptalicious "Khushi".Too much for Akhroo's "Arnav Singh Raizada Khabi kissi se Maffi nahin Mangta"[ASR never say sorry to anyone]

nice edit 👍🏼

Khushi and her friend DM are taking the toll of the whole lot pain of the day together.Khushi always shares her agonizing pains with her STARS ,her Amma and Babuji and today she is intermittent with all what happened here and in RM.Her heart is pouring her heartfelt torment to her 'Marham" Payal.Her Jiji knows the meaning of every "silwat" [curve] of her face and the reason behind it.She gives her comfort and embraces her.[way too heavy for me to see this girl's agony]Khushi's words ."aap mein se koi bhi hum se door ho gyea na tou hum kho jyenge[if any one of you will leave me ,I will be lost] are killing me here with this feeling.Yes you feel yourself like"Tanha khule aasman keh taley"[ alone in this whole wide world under this sky].

Payal asks her about the day and her hurt given by Arnav's words pulls her towards moon.Love this parallel scene if she is seeing the moon so is he by recalling his harsh words and her agonizing pain for her parents.

"Hai Dhoop sa woh agar tou woh chandini raat si hai"

Tu hi bata mere Maula



Symbolism and Connection: 1-Moon represents receptivity, femininity and illumination along with African, Japanese, Maori, and Sumerian-Semitic groups refer to the moon as a masculine force driven by the Sun.Moon represents illumination in the darkness as well as it projects different emotional sides of a woman while taking Blazing side of the Sun to reflect light .It represents emotional growth and understandings.

Connection:Khushi is the reflecting light for Arnav's dark life but her light always comes from Arnav too if he is in pain ,sad, or whatever she feels the same.Their emotional roller coaster ride makes them understand each other the way mostly couples take whole life to do so.---mmmwaaas for this!

Arnav's complete reflection from head to toe.


Symbolism:2- Glass complete mirror image has three components and in unique to humans.

-person views himself/herself through other's perceptions and in return gets identity to see ourselves as others do ,mirror image.

-it starts the beginning of realization early age and continues throughout person's life.

-Person never stops modifying their acts.

Connection:Today Arnav is getting a real hard realization about Khushi how exactly she is feeling as he is an orphan too.True image.Today he understood her smile is layered with this hidden pain which he shares with her. His own actions are making him rectifying it and he will not stop this process of redemption and seeking forgiveness whenever it will be necessary now or in future regardless in hate or in Love intentionally or unintentionally. - agreed, its always been an ongoing thing for his, the remource always felt by her,which is why she lets him get away with so much later. thats exactly why there way no need for a formal apology before the remarriage.

Also Arnav's reflection is divided which shows his divided inner and outer thought process about Khushi how he was irrational yesterday after knowing her low thinking about him but her apology and his burst out making him understand and put things in their perspective as "ghuse mein dimagh kam marna band kar daita hai"[his brain stops working in anger]



Connecting Dots:This journey of looking stars and moon started with "toota huwa tara"[broken star] ,now will continue to "Kya meri maa mujh se Khush hai"[My mother is happy with me] to telepathy, to Arnav's smile while watching moon when Khushi orders him "aapki yeh Zid bhi puri ho gye'aab muskurayei"[after putting Arnav's pic on Salman khan]to all the way 3D Galaxy star to show when with their mothers' permission they will be one.

"Sirf sorry kehna hai bohat aasan hai"[Its easy to say sorry]'Love his acclivous and uprising task practicing SORRY to Khushi. It must be killing being receiving end and tasting own medicine for ASR.Felt bad though but very entertaining .He was standing in front of mirror and was reminding me the Magic Mirror who can teach him say sorry.[Thnx to chahlov for magic mirror]La breaks the stance of his Maha Practice but she says sorry three times as three is the # of victory.Love Arnav's monologues "aaj tou usse soory bol keh rahoon ga"[Today I will say sorry to her definitely.] Love his interaction with Dhoobi wala.Khushi look what are doing to ASR but one thing is good he wanted to see her at their eternal heaven "pool side"His frustration and obstruction for saying Sorry is written all over.

In RM ,Dining table ,Arnav,"use salary kaam karne ki milti hai ya chuti laine ki"[she gets salary for working or for vacation.He is using his Harward brain too much today to find out the whereabouts of that girl [Khushi]who comes to teach La.His irritation with La reaching its limits with his BG score.Feel sorry for her though.His raging anger with La was not unnoticed by the whole family. - yah, even La knows but again she's just too much into him and afraid to lose him if she says anything. a realistic depiction of many relationships, great scene!

Pause here: La's wify style irritates him or why am I getting this vibe he does not want her around any more. - because he doesn't, but doesn't know it yet, he way to absorbed in Khushi to give her time of day, he still cares for her but every day brings him closer to Khushi, takes him away from LA

Arnav calls Khushi and if the calling end is Arnav then receiving end is Khushi.He called her twice as # 2 represents sensuality and love among couples.

Symbolism and connection: Green is the color of growth ,rebirth and renewal and it restores the depleted energy.Arnav is growing his energy for renewal his relation with Khushi by saying Maha word"Sorry"

His stammering within his sound modulation with him was worth watching.Love Khushi here as "ya aap sharma rahe hain ya ghabra rahe hain'apke ghar mein maan bhain nahin hai kya"[either you are shy or hesistant 'you don't have sister or mother]

Love this transition as she puts the phone on the cradle so does he puts down his cell.Khushi feels his misty wind around in distress..This "mehsoos" is getting stronger.She knows its Him and her vibrant expression changes into concerned one as Arnav is worrisome."Khushi Kumari Gupta, aaj jab mujhe uss se baat karni thi tou chuti laine ki kys zaroorat thi"[Today when I have to talk to her she is at vacation]Seriously he looks like a child to me here wants his favorite toy right away.

Symbolism:Love this transition of her face mingles with his and his reflection is the witness.Just the most vibrant scene ever,Symbolically he is her true image and she is his as they both are orphans.He is self assessing himself and its like a rebirth of him as he never says sorry but he is going to do it first time.- he has said it to Anjali but ya she is a diff level, which he is putting Khushi on now

1-Love Babuji,"court Kachehri sham mein kahan khulat rahe hain"[ Courts are not open in the evening but Buaji and her LOVE to the SLITHER is getting way slithery.

Shyam's lies are getting bigger but same as DM 's moves to trap him.

Love Mamiji though for pulling leg of Damadji and Slithery Damadiji's m

oves for "shaqi Client" [Babuji ] who is not ready to make a deal with his slimy moves .hmmm

2-Shyam's first flop game as he was at work opens in front of Babuji when someone comes and tells everyone was looking at you at the court today.Good Job DM !

3-Babuji sees his ring finger where fresh ring mark was so visible.He sends Slither for bringing water and he calls RaniSahiba but slimwa comes back and at the top he sees his phone activity.Rani Sahiba confirmed his suspicion into belief that Babiji is up to no Good.Today all the symbolism are referring to new beginning so This is beginning of Slither to suspect Babuji a big WALL in his way to Khushi which will prove deadly for Babuji.

Pause here:Anjali,"If Akash's wedding has no future then our has none either"Future indication way early'Good job writers'..

Arnav's sorry to Khushi [PART 2]Delivering Sorry [dil se]

Khushi is ready to go to her Arnavji to ease his pain as he is in the tribulation state of learning how to apologize. As "jo mein mehsoos karta hoon woh tum mehsoos karti ho"[You feel what I feel] His excitement in the wrapper of affliction and astonishment is so plausible on Khushi's arrival"Khushi aye hai kya"[Is Khushi Here?].Hats off to Barun and his mind blowing expressions with voice modulation.- love the way he says it

His confoundment mixed with worrisome feelings for Khushi being in La's party is magnificent.His possessiveness and protectiveness towards Khushi is reaching its heights today.He comes down and stands at the sight of stunning and simple innocent beauty wrapping in pink from head to toe as he is baffled about her acceptance over going with La to the party .

Pause here:He is going to be stunned at pink beauty at Dilli maan Bali day too when Khushi will be wearing AR designer's clothes.I always felt he designed it for her and today is the confirmation just like red saree this pink dress never goes out of his head.[my POV]

Symbolism and connection: Pink color represents innocence, sexuality and purity.Do I have to connect it with Khushi. Samjhe ya samjhaon😆

He is in green and she is in pink.Join it now------renewal of pure and innocent sensual relationship


Raba Ve moment.They both share pain but he turns his face as Its hard for him to see right in her eyes because of "Nadamat" he is ashamed of what he did from the bottom of his heart.Today her gazes at him are stronger as she wants to make sure he is fine regardless he dug the daggers of his pain into her chest.He gathers his strength and as he walks towards her slowly but her breathing becomes faster by fear of his anger and being near to him as "aap jab bhi humare paas aate hain tou '."[When ever you come close '] His eyes are saying sorry and she is receiving it.This silent sorry is broken by La' entry.Love this as he is pleading her"mut jao"[Don't go] and yes she wants to stay.Hats off to Barun and Sanaya here.Magnificent.

While leaving they both turn to see each other but their timings are odd but he watches her going out and his heart is not his today and has compulsion to stop her.

Pause here: He will plead her with love "mut jao"[don't go] and she will be staying with him after bringing Anjali from the hospital [after miscarriage]

Symbolism and Connection: Hotel--------Blue Nile

Color blue [oceanic blue] represents freedom, strength, and new beginnings though turquoise is evil blue which represents coldness in attitude as Shyam's bracelet.

Nile the longest river of Egypt joins South and North of the Egypt.

Also "Ankh" the Egyptian symbol means life of Nile as it represents cross of male and female energy including immortality and completion and heavenly marriage.


I think connection is simple Blue Nile ---beginning of relationship among two odd people who are meant to be one by Fate. -nice!👏

If you join all three symbolisms Pink, green and blue Nile.-----message is same

Khushi finds out after reaching to the party where she is.So typical of her but still love her so much.She is talking to herself about her LG as his painful words are reverberating in her brain not only because he wounded her with these but also he is in grief and that "chot" wound is bugging her up .She wants to be there to console him just like he is in distress because of her.Khushi,"hum bhi kitne ajeeb hain..."[I am so strange] all the time thinking about LG...

"Dil ko dil se rah hoti hai" as she is thinking of her ajeeb and he is here because he is her PROTECTOR .He knows she has no clue of this party and unintentionally he is here to save her.Wow what a change is this the same guy who left her in the middle of the road alone in the middle of night.-agreed!

He is so vulnerable today as his words are not believing him either.Khushi turns to go away after her astonishment finding him there .He calls her so sweetly [muahhhaa]not once twice.[# 2 is for sensuality and love and all like two mangoes the other day]Khushi by ignoring her fast heart beat for his sensual voice of calling her softly turns and says rudely, "La is inside and don't call me like this in front of everyone like that" Arnav's rage surfaces up ignoring his mistakes with her ,"How dare you?" Khushi ,"why can't I dare , you have name on it or you have bought daring..." She was not making any sense in her anger with him .It seems to me she was trying to say how dare you hurting me like that despite the fact you know the real meaning of this pain as being an orphan.

Arnav,"Tumhain kya lagta hai mein tum se yahan baat karne keh liye ayeah hoon....[What do you think I came here to talk to you]No Akhroo you are here to play ping pong game..Seriously...

Again he shows her her place and turns his face as usually .Whenever he can't face the reality and makes up story to keep up with his ego he turns his face always.

He hurts her again and gets the same in return and this time he can't bear it as he closes his eyes . He says twice"Sorry bolna hai Arnav, Sorry bolna hain"[you have to say sorry.He turns to say sorry but she is not there.


He searches her and finds her outside crying by herself.He proceeds up to her.Without looking she senses him and turns to leave when Arnav says Khushi I need to talk to you.She ignores him again.[2nd time as # 2 represents sexual tension]


His animosity has no limit with her ignorance .He grabs her tightly and turns her towards him as sensual tension is at the peak the same way when she was calling him low character on the other day but this time his grip is tighter than before but she does not force to release herself either .hmmm

"Kitni bar kaha hain jab mein baat kar raha hoon muun mut moda karo kitni bar...itni si baat samajh nahin aati.."[I told you so many times don't turn your face when I am talking to you]

Arnav,"you are making me crazy since morning"

Khushi furiously, "put pressure on your brain..I have not met you since morning ...say what you have to say"...say it

Arnav in acerbity, "If I knew about your parents ..I would never say those things to you...Samjhi Tum[understand]

Pause here:Arnav's one eye is hiding behind Khushi ,he is her protector .

Khushi looks at her arm in pain and he realizes the intensity of his grip and then release her by leaving his mark on her .

Pause here: It reminds the way she was in pain in guest house and looks at her arm and he releases her by giving his mark on her

Khushi with bafflement and convulsion looks at him closely before stepping back,"Oh so all this ...you were trying to say sorry...but it will be way too difficult for you.

"Kahan aap Arnav Singh Raizada aur Kahan hum Khushi Kumari Gupta...[While you are ASR and me just KKG] How can you say sorry to me and as you did not know anything about me...doesn't matter...I tell you When I was eight my parents left me in a car accident and at that age I did not know the meaning of death.I was thinking for days they went some where they will be back.

He looks at her stunningly while she was sharing her pain as he feels ,there is some TRUST behind her hate and thinking of him low.Amazingly she did not stop there either and shares the most secretive parts of her life with him. - the same way he shared with her in anger how he felt the day he lost his parents

Khushi," you definitely don't know this, I still believe even today that my parents are stars that's why I hang em at the top of my bed...I am afraid of fast car, from darkness, from sleeping alone...Its been so many years but still feels like a nightmare and I think when one day I will wake up , they will be back.

Now you know everything so say sorry...


Arnav with her pain in his heart can't bring words on the surface on his lips but his eyes screaming SORRY loud and clear.He gulps down the pain as " rundhi hui awaz keh saath alfaz saath nahin de rahe"

Khushi wants him to say sorry, "I know I don't have that status so you can say sorry..." He can't take that blame...because it's not true.

She turns and tries to leave when Arnav calls her name again and this time she does not ignore him[she knows he does not like it] and stops and turns,Both shares their painful gazes as he always turns but this time he turns his face side ways and gathers his strength "SORRY"...Raba Ve mingles in to intensify it...He turns his face towards her and says again SORRY and then third time "I'm really really sorry"....[#3 means victory] She looks at him stunningly but the way they both cry for each other during those moments by gulping down the immense pain and the moment they both ready to give in each others arms she turns her face because of vulnerability and runs away leaving him behind with pain and peace at the same time.Peace as she shared the most precious and treasured and painful moments of her life with him as she does have some importance of him in her heart.


PONDERING POINT:During all this he has a satisfaction along with Khushi's pain as her pain becomes daggers for him and vice versa. He knows from the bottom of his heart she does not hate him.Period.As he poured his heart on her yesterday ,she did the same today.The beginning of their journey of COMPLETE TRUST on each other starts here...Look at these pics a slight satisfaction with small smile but a lot of Khushi's pain in his eyes

Pause here:Only Khushi knows how to tame this wild horse known as ASR but pyar se, kabi ghuse se.One thing is clear even he says sorry she feels more sad as she never wants her Arnavji to do that but just like a stubborn child some one has to teach him some lessons.

Connecting Dots: One example ,He will be keeping in his mind for speedy car , will feel sorry for keeping her in the dark alone in Nanital trip , everytime when she will be in the car sitting right besides him even in the hate period except during Pag Phere when he stops the car with halt on breaks and she breaks her bangles.He never wanted her to remove stars from the top of his bed and becomes upset too when she removes it as those represents his parents too which he accepts during Telepathy convo.He will create 3D Galaxy where her mom and his mom will be together.Khushi's beliefs will be his completely that day and their oneness will be complete too.

Love this parallel scene.Two sisters concerned about their siblings.Payal knows she has cried again today.Khushi tells her about LG's gold medal of SORRY over a cup of tea.Love her when she says so lovingly by pouting ,"LG said sorry in such a way that I cried and told him everything"...Awww Love you Temptalicious!!!She is sad because he is sad...

Breathtaking Pondering point:She is telling all of this to Payal under the stars ,with her parents' permission. She was pouring all of her sadness to Arnav under the stars.Arnav said sorry to her under the stars.Just Amazing!!!Their Parents STARS are with them.Period!.- yep thats where it was meant to be as this whole thing was spawned by their parents to bring them closer IMO😊.


Other side, Anjali knows he has cried today as his eyes never lies.She says sorry three times to Chote for bugging him up. It irritates him and he sits down. He gives a passive and annoying look to his Di and Di says Sorry twice this time which makes him stupefied and he says "Di you said Sorry 5 times in one minute.Love his monologue "mere liye itna mushkil kyuon hai"[Why is this so hard for me?]😊

Di asks him "are you ok?"Arnav, yes Di and then gets up in vexation and says,No Di it seems to me I will lose my brain " She again starts sympathy with him which makes him angry and then She says sorry again.[She says sorry 6 times as # 6 represents motherhood and giving nature which Anjali is for Chote ]She leaves him with Khushi's pain and agony .

hehe LOVE this scene, he is way too cute!! also love your edit!

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Great one Arshi!! ⭐️ lovely points and insight. you can see how much i enjoyed it, my comments are in red 😃 you line below, i feel it sums up the whole episode,and the purpose of this day.

they both cry for each other during those moments

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episode 88


a tear.

today that one single tear that came from where who knows, yet we all do, the tear is in me. it came from a place within, glistened on the edge of her eye and rolled down visible clearly to him, before she knew of its coming or its catching the light and flowing down a feeling; touching it with its salt, telling it it's true.

sometimes the writing touched a sublime note. this was one of them. often while watching ipk, at the oddest of moments when no major thing is happening, perhaps just a look in his eyes or a play in her voice brings a tear stinging the back of my eye. it's perhaps because something senses the truly precious, the ephemeral, the thing alive, in a feeling between a man and a woman.

and there they stood, a man and a woman. seemingly miles of distance between them in every way, yet there they stood and she was really his, and he only hers. it's just a moment. you can let it go and say it never was, but such things, once they happen, they never really go away.

khushi's feelings how powerful they were, how overwhelming, they cared not for her inner sanctions and restrictions, they bothered not that she didn't really have the experience to understand them, they just came and made their claim. he was hers, how could anyone else hold him? and he put his arms around another?
and he had come to only wipe away her tears.

why else had he come to do what he'd said he never would? for whom did he carry that slightest, incredibly beautiful almost-smile, whose expression brought it on? the smile on which face did he seek? and who touched his heart? the heart he said he didn't have. nahin hai dil asr ke seene mein.

the tear was its own answer. but khushi surrounded it with only questions.

"hey devi maiya, yeh kyun ho raha hai? hum pareshan kyun hain? akhir humare kahne pe hi toh... hume toh khush hona chahiye... lavanya ji itni khush hui... par jab woh dono saath... pata nahin hume kya... hum pareshan kyun hai." hey devi maiya... why is this happening? why am i upset? after all, it's because i said... i should be happy... lavanya ji was so happy... but when they were together... i don't know what.. why am i getting upset? she is so confused, so unprepared to realise what it is she feels. she is not supposed to feel like this.

but isn't that what made it valid? you feel for someone a powerful feeling of desire and more, with no rational reason or basis for it. extra-rational. isn't that the very nature of love? in fact, even of of faith? isn't love itself a thing of faith? can we start loving because you fit a certain bill? can we stop loving because you do things that hurt?

"kyun usske aankhon ke aansoo mujhe pareshan kar rahein hain? kyun use main rota hua nahin dekh sakta." why are the tears in her eyes upsetting me? why can't i see her crying? rabba vey played its gentle piano notes as though asking curiously, yes, why?

both are pareshan, neither knows why. the tears are like little vehicles to a separate different space, an extra-rational space where only feelings count. feelings that will come together and become "khushi, i love you" and in response, a tear rolling slowly down as she grips the phone, her man now in the embrace of danger,"i love you, arnavji," it said.

perhaps it said it for the first time just now, here. absolutely brilliant writing. when we are moved in our core, even when we aren't aware of it, the emotion still has its say. sometimes this way.

he walks into office. stops nonplussed. the room is overflowing with plants... and there's a letter.

in hindi, from "tumhari lavanya kashyap." of course, there was no way he didn't know who had sent the letter... but still he went.

"i'm sorry... please mujhe rok lijiye, nahi toh pahad... se kudkar... main apni jaan de doongi." i am sorry, please stop me from leaving... otherwise.. i'll leap off a mountain and kill myself. okay this is the precise point when it not only registered that khushi has done this but also exactly how sanka she is. did he feel a little laughter bursting forth inside? just a teeny little "yeh ladki mujhe paagal kar degi" or "unbelievable" moment?

he put the letter down on his desk. and sat down, leaned back, closing his eyes. a familiar stance when his deep in his emotions. that first evening at the fashion show, later the sunday when he couldn't help but think of her after the resignation showdown, and now. every time, the lean back as though needing rest and the lids slowly descending taking him to his inner world.

inevitably thoughts of khushi came. first her voice, tearful, distraught, "aapne kabhi bhi unse pyaar kiya bhi tha?" did you ever even love her?

then tears in her eyes as she looked at him right here, in this office, only a short while back.

tears.

he jolted up, shaken to the core. tears in her eyes, even in a memory, is unbearable.

(really why can't he bear to see her eyes filling. my mind wanders and says, was there yet another story we were never told. had he seen her on that night that her parents went, an eight year old sweet and solemn little girl, tears brimming to her eyes and she trying hard to control it. did his subconscious have a memory that kept coming back whenever he saw her crying now? a story? ok i will not ponder this any more. just that too many times he asked himself this question, maybe a different, more complex story was it's origin.)

dammit! he struck the desk with his helpless fist.




"then all of a sudden, this tear plopped down on the checkerboard. On one of the red squares ... boy, i can still see it. she just rubbed it into the board with her finger. i don't know why, but it bothered hell out of me. so what i did was, i went over and made her move over on the glider so that i could sit down next to her - i practically sat down in her lap, as a matter of fact. then she really started to cry, and the next thing i knew, i was kissing her all over - anywhere - her eyes, her nose, her forehead, her eyebrows and all, her ears - her whole face except her mouth and all. she sort of wouldn't let me get to her mouth."
~~~ j d salinger, catcher in the rye ~~~

~~~ shashi babu continues his investigation and walks into a little trap laid by shyam. shyam is giving idiotic slanted smiles. life goes on.

~~~ nani is back and wondering what's different about the environment. he returns home with an elated lavanya. but the smile that made him really smile was his di's. the sweetest bro smile as she hugged him.

~~~ nani struggled with her smile.

~~~ beginning of navratri. nine days of the goddess. and the first arati is here. the story of her slaying the demon mahishasura in my mind as i look at shyam trying to act as the consigliere. on vijaya dashami, evil will be vanquished and ma durga will return home, come down only to help ram overcome ravan. but the real evil was the grotesques mahishasura... mmm did he twitch?

~~~ she stands before dm thinking of him. he stands before his pool, his place of solace, near his garden and thoughts of ma where he feels safe. and there's a girl with a tear rolling down on his mind. while she thinks of him putting his arms around another woman.

~~~ "kabhi kabhi hum kissi cheez ko poori duniya jehan mein dhundte rahte hain aur woh hota hai humare aankhon ke saamne." sometimes we look for something all over the world and it is right before our eyes. and if you want to find out what's really wrong with your friend let her do this test, ask her to see if her breath quickens when she's around this person. thank you shyam for that right before your eyes and dhadkane tez ho jaati words. very very clever writing. smooth absolutely.
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onek dhonnobad, sohara. loved your thoughts. happy you enjoyed and agreed that barun indeed is a remarkable actor. you are right, given the right director, this actor can go as far as the most respected and talented actors we've known. i have not a shred of doubt. but what i am wary of is the ways of our times. not to many directors are wanting to make the real films that made droves of people open film appreciation classes and catapulted, what many thought was just entertainment, to virtually an art form. lolita was made despite the massive risk of taking on such a no no subject, never di well in the box office, but what a performance, a character that stays in you.

money was always important. now only money is important.

that has a terrible impact on quality and depth of things we make.
Scenario is different in Hollywood. in Hollywood the critically acclaimed movies hit in the box office. Did you watch Hugo? A movie like Hugo would never do business in India.

i wish barun had a satyajit ray to make a film with him. i can practically see him in the hindi version of aporajito and apur sansar (you will have to check with your dad about these 😆). even now, there's aparna sen (when in a good mood), the guy who made special 26, a few people like that. i am not too knowledgeable. but i know what touches me and what doesn't.
Satyajit Ray is definitely a legend, though i didn't watch enough of his work. I only watched pother pachali and ghore baire. My dad sure watched the movies you mentioned. I'll definitely watch those when I''ll get some time.
there are some good directors in Bollywood too. I really like Raju Hirani. I wish Barun will get a chance to work with a good director. and of course good PH is also important. To get success in Bollywood an actor needs to work in a superhit commercial film, like KJo's film. But i think Barun shouldn't pick a movie like MAMR as his debut. I wish his movie hits.

well i guess if he could do this in a tv serial, he'll come through anyway... fab directors or not. but still that combination of auteur director and a young barun willing to learn and explore just blows the mind. we had several commercial film directors who had their vision and style, and made fantastic commercial cinema, nowadays everything a bit uninspired. too superficial. as though not even touching a person, an emotion.
i do agree. but Bollywood has changed a lot. some of the commercial movies are really great.

yes, it is difficult to understand people. it was khushi's sanka, her almost foolhardy gutsiness, and her not so perfect humanness that made the character appealing.

i liked your thoughts on recovering from a relationship. that's real.
break up is too painful!

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episode 88 salt water
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"
two scenes from these two episodes particularly crashed into me while i watched. here is asr as he is, with his unconventional beliefs, his inability to really give himself to an emotional relationship, his arrogant air, his unyielding stance, and above all his out of control gussa, anger, and the nasty tongue it catalyses. no softening of edge, no cutesie pie nuance. he is scathing as he lets his rage ride untrammeled. he is refusing to marry, saying he doesn't give a damn, not even interested in going and coaxing his girl friend to return." - Amazing Description 👏

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for i find that integral, visceral connection between barun sobti and his asr. and this no holds barred adhering gives us a performance that is at the level of a classic in a daily soap on a general entertainment channel. by an untrained actor. i can't thank barun sobti enough for giving all he could to this khadoos he had to take all the way to our hearts. given the kind of guy he is, chances are that when he dated he wasn't being caressed by dupatta, catching falling girl, hearing rabba vey back of mind, carrying the lady in his arms and striding purposefully, or giving her long intense looks lasting several seconds every once in awhile. to convince your cool, trendy young mind that this can be done with conviction is pretty tough." ⭐️Superb!!!

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then the gussa. how fabulously he owned it. no fearing anything when he entered it, allowing his voice to go where it needed to, his whole body get involved in expressing fury, his mind feel its kick, and all the while not any generic anger, but asr anger. the sudden decibel blow outs, then the drop to even cold iciness, the seething tension in the body, the hand tense and index finger jabbing air downward, the eyes going flat ice with lavanya, but dark smouldering with khushi, " - every word said is amazing...👏


- this too good 👏

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then la's constant turning in her direction brings khushi right out, and face to face with that wildfire anger. cold sleet fury building into fire within as he sees khushi at the bathroom door. brilliant direction and acting of this singular asr trait. gussa. did he just hold her hand and drag her after him? first time? just the way he pulled her along that night of the angry temple." 👏

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his decision not to marry cannot be played with. it is a strongly held belief and any violation is abbhorent. he had even taken nani on when she had interfered. this is unbearable to him." - Excatly ppl shld stop tryin to change him!!!

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how does khushi decide this is his weakness? isn't that judgmental? so if he has a misconception about her character so does she about him it would seem. a couple of days ago, character dheela, today kamzori." - i agree with you here

"please get the hell out of this room." - i love the tone...the way he said it!!

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i feel for la. she has all too easily relinquished her notions of living in which she was so good at explaining, all because she suddenly realised that her hold over asr is slippery, thanks to khushi's vivid description of old age and hinting at the unfaithfulness of man. while we laughed and joked about it, see the situation from asr's point of view and it is really untenable. he has not fudged or disrespected anyone, he has a right to live the way he wishes to as long as it doesn't mortally hurt anyone. la knew the deal. and now to try and arm twist him into marriage, that too with this ridiculous ploys... unbelievable." - Soo True 👏

"yes, i don't give a damn for you... that's why against everybody's wishes i brought you here. he is angry, upset, pained by this whole thing. and first time ever a little glimpse into his deeper feelings for la. oh they were there alright, otherwise as he said he wouldn't have battled everyone to be with her. only thing, he was in no state to fall madly in love when he met her. half alive is how he described himself to khushi much later... in that state, the maximum emotion he could have for anyone, he did have for la." - too good 👍🏼

"isse kah dijiye iss ghar se aur meri zindagi se bahar nikal jaay." tell this one to leave my home and my life... to di later, about khushi. dark dark fury with touches of red. his life. yes, agree or not, lower middle class or whatever, interfering and irritating most certainly, but khushi had entered his life."

- 👍🏼

"that acting i spoke of. remember his sudden going still at the wardrobe. he'd walked in and passed his bed without really noticing la and gone straight to his wardrobe. but something had registered and so he suddenly stopped and froze. then slowly he turned and looked at the bed. at la. all that you see up there on his face. a bemused, what the look. and then he flew into his most prized attribute. rage." - even i loved this entire scene...the way he stops for a sec nd then turns...just superb actin by Sobti!!!

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a bit precipitate wouldn't you say? you dump a man you've loved many months, and the very same evening you leave for another country never to return? i realise urgency needed to be created, but this time the writers were not very clever, sorry" - i agree here...they showed it lik...even for lavanya it din matter!!!

"no matter, this urgency led to the next confrontation and a pressure cooker fight in the office, where he spelled out his beliefs, said that frankly la's leaving proved his point: that two people cannot live together for a life time. they grow, they change and move on. nothing wrong with that. khushi got more and more agitated... accused him of never loving la, of lying even. how would la feel if she heard all this, he wasn't bothered she was leaving, he was what sort of man..." - Total Pressure cooker scene...beautiful dialogues!!!

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tried her best to make him go to la and apologise, things just kept going from bad to worse. he didn't disappoint, getting nastier with every line." - Very well said 👏

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"nahi hai dil asr ke seene mein," no there is no heart in asr's chest. so why did i almost stop breathing when i finally caught the words on the nth viewing with volume high?

nahi hai dil?

- Amazing Edit indi...no wonder u made ur pro pic 👏

"khushi has her own ideas of love and especially true love. asr has seen a terrible side of love, seen what he believed to be true love turn out to be not that. who can be blamed for believing what they do?"

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by the sheer conviction in his voice he created this woman who always coloured his perception of khsuhi.👍🏼

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he can't bear it. as she passes him, his whole face exudes emotion, the wooden hard lines gone in an instant, just agony. he shuts his eyes the tears hit him so hard. she leaves, and this time it is she who turns back to look one time. looking for what? - Barun was Brilliant here ⭐️

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less than 6 minutes, the entire scene. the last minute had not a single word but so much was said. past and present merged, hints of future, a timeless look between the two. pyaar nahin hai, asr? nahi hai dil asr ke seene mein? 👏




Indi this was one of yu The Best Analysis...every word has been perfectly said...every line has its own charm...Fabulous 👏⭐️

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Episode 84: under the stars


"Khushi? Khushi aayi ha aaj?"
his almost closed door re-opnes right away at the sound of her name, the eagerness in his voice reflects all the longing he felt all day to see her so he can unload a burden of guilt off his chest. he had hurt her badly and said things he terribly regretted the moment he learned she too lost her parents.

Its been a long day for Arnav Singh Raizada, who stood in front of a mirror and practiced for it, endured a cruel joke by DM when his laundryman showed instead of Khushi, then the agony of finding out she's off today of all days... but the universe was listening to what he wanted with all his heart...she was here and he couldn't wait any longer, no time wasted, "is she here today?" he asks La, for the first time today he looked at La with any interest. "ya She's going to the party with me"

He cant contain himself and goes out to see her, from above the stairs, he take a moment to take in the vision in pink, she looks up to see him and right away notices his soft look . As she looked at him, all she could think about was his pain the day he lost his parents...

He walks down the stairs with his eyes fixated on her, they come face to face,



a soft gaze from his side, she looks down, with determination he takes a few steps forward, she waits for him but La beat him to Khushi, "Lets go chamikili, itgs getting late, by ASR see you soon"

Khushi saw it all in his eyes, she knew he was going to say something, both desperately wishing for one more moment alone but it wasn't meant to be here, it had to be under the stars where their parents could see them grow...La whisks her away, she looks back and confirms her thought,

that he was indeed trying to say something...he looks awfully painfully disappointed, seemed this guilt was literally eating him up inside.
At the party an uncomfortable Khushi waits outside while La goes inside when his thought randomly pops up in her head, him telling her he didn't want to see her face, she scolds herself "hum bhi na kitne ajeeb hai, dimaag kabhi bhi kuchh bhi soch ne lagta hai, ab yahah uss laad governor ke baare mein kyu soch rahe hai?(i'm so wierd, why am i thinking of the LG right now??)" Those words about not wanting to see her face deeply hurt her every time he say them, the same way "rakshash" and "Laad Governor". just as she finishes thinking about him in all her lonesome at a crowded party, she turns around to find him in front of her with the same eager face she left at the RM...he comes to the party he turned La down for over and over today...his presence here especially for Khushi speaks volumes of how badly he needs to reverse the damage he did and in turn reflects the pain that he lives through daily because that's the only way he could really grasp really how much pain he caused her.
Khushi responds with her signature wide eyes, and to an extent knows he's here for her but she gets angry and tries to push him away. maybe she's frustrated with his mixed signals..."don't want to see your face" one minute and in the next his gaze stays upon the same "shakkal (face)" like its providing him oxygen... so with out saying a word, she tries to walk away but a soft toned husky voice, a vibration of vulnerability in it begging her to stop
"Khushi"


she can feel it in his voice, in the way he says her name, a call from somewhere deep within unlike the "Khushi Kumaari Gupta" she has become accustomed to. it's all too scary for her, in an attempt to push him away again, a firmness in her voice "Lavanya ji is inside, you can go"

"Khushi" he call out for her in the same mannter... but somewhere she wants to protect her heart from this man who can turn on her any minute...
"hamme aapse koi baar nahi karni hai Mr.Arnav Singh Raizada!" she explodes, "aur baar baar sabke saamne hamme iss tarah mat bulaiye, hamne kaha na aapse Lavany hi andar hai, aap jaaiye yahan se"
After specifically asking him not to call her name out in such a manner, she literally she's shooing him away...and ASR does not get shooed away by anyone and especially not a low-status middle class girl, all the softness goes away "What the! How dare you?", his question is met with a fired up response "Kyu? hum daring kyun nahi kar sakte? daring pe sirf aapka naam likha hai kya? aapne daring karid li hai kay? (why can't i dare, have you bought out daring 😆)"
"What nonsense?"
"Aap nonsense! aur aapke saath aapka pura (yo're nonsense! and you'r whole family) " gasp! did she almost just? she stopped her self realizing what she just said.. Obviously driving Arnav's temper up. "Aap kyu hamaare peeche padein hai? aap ky (why are you after me why do)"

Tumhara dimaag kharaab ho gaya hai Khushi Kumaari Gupta (are you our of your mind KKG?)" then his ego takes over "tumhe kya lagata mein tumse yaha baat karne ayaa hoon? agar do minute pyaar se baat kar leta hoon, iska matlab yeh nahi ki apni jagah bhool jao, understand? (you think i came here to talk to you? if i talk you nicely for two min doesn't meant you forget your place understand?)
He walks away but the truth is yes, he did come here just to talk to her, his reason for being here, is stronger than his ego today, he stops, looks back, and those darn tears...he just can't bare to hurt her more than he already has yesterday, "Sorry bolna hai Arnav, sorry bolna hai"


...he turns around but she gone...it had to be under the stars.
He goes outside, his eyes scan for her...there she was in the gazeebo under the stars wiping her flow of tears, pain of them reflects on his face again,



he makes his way to her, she turns back to him and of course proceeds to leave...
"khushi mujhe tumse kuchh baat karni hai (Khushi, i have to talk to you about something)"


she ignors him, its the storage room all over again, as always things must get elevated to the next level and he is pushed to his anger. Grabbing her vigorously, and turning her towards him, in fronts of him, a firm grip on both of her shoulders...a grip on her her defiance really.



'kitni baar kaha hai, jab mein tumse baat kar raha hoon to moo mat moda karo, KITNI BAAR!" shaking her to match the shaking in his voice,"itni si baat samaj nahi aati tumeh? maine kaha na main kuchh kahe raha hoon?" (how many times have i told you when i'm talking don't look away, HOW MANY TIMES!...can't you understand this much? i told you i was saying something!)
Then he looks at her and says something that gave himself away "subhah se dimaag kharaab kar ke rakha hai (you've ruined my mind since this morning)", did Khushi catch that?? "aap apne dimaag pe dhyaan dijiye, kyu ki subhah se hum aapse mile nahi ha (then you concentrate on your mind because i haven't met you all day) " good point khushi, but you missed the real point...you have effected his mind since this morning without being there
"boliye, kya bolna chahte hai aap? boliye!" she screams at him

His grip on her gets stonger "main yeh kehna chahta tha ki uss din maine jo kaha mujhe nahi kehna chahiye tha, agar mujh pata hota to mein aisa kabhi nahi kehta, agar mujhe tumhare maa baap ke baare mein pata hot to main aisa kabhi nahi kehta ..SAMJHI TUM!!



Translation: "I"m trying to say that I shouldn't have said what i said that day, if i knew i wouldn't have said that, if i knew about your parents i would've never said that UNDERSTAND!"

all in one breath, like he would suffocated if it didn't all come out right then... Khushi looks up at him shocked to hear him actually speak the words she saw earlier at the RM. Even his shaking of her didn't matter while she saw what was in his eyes.



a moment goes by gazing each other, she struglle to free herself from his grip, he releases her as soon as he realises. "to yeh sab, aap sorry bolne ki koshish kar rahe the? bahut mushkil hoga na aapke liye? kaha aap, MR.Arnav Singh Raizada, kaha hum Khushi Kumaari Gupta (So all this, you were trying to say sorry? it must've been hard, you Mr. Arnav Singh Raizada and me Khushi Kumaari Gupta)" ..all that "aukaad" talk erupts "aap sorry kaise bolenge? (how will you aplogize?)"
She's right that it was hard for him to say sorry but how wrong she was about the reason for the difficulty.

"waise bhi, you don't know anything about me, no problem, let me tell you...I was 8 yrs old when my parents died in a car accident, i didn't even know the meaning of dying then, for so many days i though they went somehwhere, and will be back...till this day i feel that my parents are stars, thats why i hang stars on my bed, fast speeds in cars scare me even today, sleeping by myself scared me, going into darkness scares me"

Arnav listens with all his heart, without blinking, he takes it all in like a sponge, compassion in his eyes, an need to want to just take care of her, tears emerging every passing second. she continues "so many yrs have gone by but it still feels like a bad dream, on day i'll wake up and they come"



That last line seems to hit home with him, to wake up one day and see his mom come back, i'm sure he has daydreamed such thoughts.

"now you know everthinga bout , sorry boliye, say sorry " almost like a test she demands him expecting him to fail but she mistook him fighting his tears, when he was just trying to process all he had heard and gather some courage, she tells him to give up "let it go, you won't be able to because i don't have enough status that you would apologies to me"

This second he realizes just how much that "hesiyat" "aukaad" words have really hurt her, he need to prove to her that she's worthy of his apology...so far other than Anjali, the only one he would do this for. She was his sole reason for coming to this party, she has become important, her feelings have become important, losing all of his inhibitions he knows he has to let her know all of it in one word.


"Khushi" there is that soft vulnerable tone again, this time she doesn't stop him from calling out her name "iss tarah" (in such a way), she stops for him and looks back, he's looking at her with the tears even more visible,



"Sorry"...heartfelt as can be, his tears for her are in his voice, this first one he is unable to look her in the eyes, she is stood there touched, stunned...he looks straight into her eyes,



"Sorry" a more firm confident, "I'm really sorry" the thiird one it had gotten easier, An emotional moment as as Khushi takes a deep breath after that last apology as more tears come rolling down, shouldn't she be happy?
Her tears have a massive effect on him, here we see what his tears do to her...they bring more tears to her,




she can't bare it. She doesn't know what to do, how to react she runs away...he lets her go as a huge load is off his chest and knows she needs to go.



Under the stars, as their parents watched, the two shared the most intimate moments together bringing them closer than ever. She shared everything about herself to him, it just all came out, and he showed a side of himself to her. She has seen him cry for Anjali, but these tears shed for her and for all the pain she endured...their oneness is a step closer. All that Khushi told him, he will keep close to his heart, no more fast cars, he will bring her "jugnu" (fireflies) in the dark, he will bring her the stars the night before their wedding. If she was holding on with all her might to keep herself from falling for him, today his tears have pushed her over the edge.

At their respective homes, their respective sisters know both have been crying, Arnav and Khushi both ignore them with the help of their respective wardrobes. after much begging payal gets Khushi to talk with a cup of tea. While Arnav's reactions are the funniest trying to get away from his Di. "Di please leave me alone"
Khushi tell Payal that "ek sorry hi to bolna tha, aur woh bhi uss laad gov ne aise bol diya ki hamme rula diya (all he had to do was say sorry, the way he said it, made me cry)" hmmm an admission of the effect of his tears on her, but interesting she doesn't tell Payal that he cried, i love how even Khushi keeps the most intimate details a secret..."phir us sab bata diya..phir he gave me a gold medal...(then i told him everything...then he gave me a gold medal)"
"Kya?" yes Khushi we're all confused explain yourself...
"arre itna sun ne ke baad patthar bhi bol deta, par uss laad gov ke moo se itna sun ne ke baad "sorry" nikkal hi nahi raha tha...sorry hai ya gold medal (after telling him the whol story, even a rock would've said "sorry" by then but it just wasn't coming out of him...is it a sorry or Gold medal?)"



In front of Payal, she feels the need to put a comic twist in her favor, she can't let her know how his demeanour really was, how she really felt when she left there...infact she sensed his sincere feelings at the RM before La whisked her away...but in front of Payal that "rakshas" image needs to stay intact.
Anjali continues to push Arnav for answers, and he can't seem to get a peep out, he did just accomplish a big feat, the emotion drainage of all that.. "i'm worried for you, i think you're" Arnav gives her a look before she can finish to which she says another "sorry"
"Di ek minut mein paanch baar sorry bol chuki hai aap, itna aasaan hota hai aap logon ke liye? mere liye itna mushkil kyu hai?" (Di you've said sorry 5 times in one minute, why is so hard for me?)...
"kya?" oh Anjali if you had any idea "chotey are feeling ok?"
"Haan Di, Nahi Di, Di mujhe lag raha hai ki mein paagal ho raha hoon" (yes DI, no Di, i think i'm goind crazy!)..😆.even he admits a small part o his feelings...this girl is driving him mad. All the emotions running high and thinking back to the day, all that he did out of his character for her, its finally hitting him "yeh ladki mujhe paagal kar ke chodegi" (this girl will drive me crazy) as he would later say...

DROOL CORNER!!!!!!


can't reisist ❤️

❤️ his "'i''m going crazy" look 😆 this is my fav since i don't like to see him cry





thanks, ami, blast of a read. you were in that post weren't you. jumped in the moment he opened the door and asked is khsuhi here? the door opening moment you start with was a brilliant one. so many simple, natural, quiet little things that establish their feelings. we don't even need to hear rabba vey always to know ah, they connected. lovely assertions about the sorry having to be said under the stars. and both their feelings all along. er, khushi was trying with all her might not to fall for him? really, where is your dimaag, girl? one of the most emotional epsiodes. barun crying. never did i ever think that i would be falling apart and screaming more at such a sight. he came to the party just for her, saying "no" to la several times. nice.



my fave today. hotwa.

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Episode 88

Navratri -----Part 3

Scared or Sacred ,...Traumatized or clouded, What is this look referring to ,where is he standing at ,..Is his present is clouded with the traumatized past filled with that "other woman" whose shadow is making him scared with his present or the pull of scared love of his mother which got him into this vortex of scared nightmares which is hindering his abilities to differentiate the love from hate.

This confused and bewildered look is clouding his judgment and he is seeing that "other woman" in Khushi's eyes .Why? Why he said,"kum se kum tumhari tarah jhoot bolne ki aur doosron keh samne acha bane ki acting tou nahin karta"[At least I don't lie or act like you in front of people] Who is referring to here?His father or that"other woman".

What ever happened in those moments kind a stayed still in that scream which is making it hard for him to separate Khushi from that "other woman"?.It will be Khushi and her smile which will pull him out of this vortex regardless of its strong roots which are hard to remove from its ground of HATE [as Dadi will be back] but these will be dead without pulling because of the strength of LOVE[his mother + Khushi].

Arnav,"Kyuon uske aansoo mujhe pareshan kar rahe hain...Kyuon mein use rota huwa nahin dekh sakta"[Why her tears are making me uneasy ?...Why can't I see her crying] This is his weakness and her smile is his strength.He knows she is innocent but his clouded mind can't make a clear judgment but his heart is pulling towards of this vortex of LOVE[Khushi+his mother].Her words are like "marham" for his wounded heart but his mind "Dammit" is in constant clashing war with his self imposed beliefs as "aap ne khabi bhi un se pyar kya bhi tha...[did you ever loved her]He closed his eyes to set himself free for her tears for once at least but he can't.The reverberation of her words reminds him her existence in his life just like these plants.


PONDERING MOMENT:Whatever happened in these moments its did shake him as La's departure is sad for him too,he did not make any commitment but still they have a relationship and they both were comfortable with that.At the top Khushi's entrace is getting deeper in him as her pains and smiles are taking over his heart and brain.Even Akash felt his brother's pain too.

Pause here:Her tears are always sacred to him unintentionally or intentionally and he accepts that on Bachelor's night.

Khushi selfless cookie ,"Why Arnavji and La pay the price of her fault"..Which fault dear? The one which your tears already did or the one which you are going to do to set those tears free for him again.She is bringing his mother in this matter[Plants as his mother"ub issi keh sahare unko manyenge{I wil make him convince through this}] to help her to convince her son to stop La or in other words His mother along with DM is pulling their strings to come close through La.Just magnificent!!!

Pause here:She sells her mother's bangles and no one knew it...uhhh

Symbolism and connection: Bangles are round like # 0 which shapes like an egg meaning seed.It is going to seed this feeling of possessiveness and jealousy unintentionally in her while seeing them together.

Arnav is here to set himself free for her smile and look at his changing expressions of his eyes while seeing Khushi's smile which brings smile on his face.It is evident today he is here for her not for La but La is the reason he will be near to her and that's why I left you with 86-87 with this pondering thought What will he do for her smile...The answer is here...in this scene.

what will he do for her smile?

He is embracing her smile as he always imaging Khushi whenever he is with La and this is one of those moments.His smile is adorable while seeeing Khushi smile as he gor his wish of his unsaid prayer.

Connecting Dots:He always embraces La while thinking of Khushi.After Hospital hug which is my fav

Pause here:Here is the significance and symbolism of Navratri [as I explained in 86-87]Khushi's transformation towards a woman starts here .from Durga till Kali and Arnav is the main reason behind all of this because he brings woman out of Khushi as Khushi brings Arnav out of ASR.Khushi's Dhak Dhak starts taking shape which will make her realize her true feelings for Arnav but after lots of Khushism and sillism.

The moment his arms wraps her smile while embracing La her tears embrace her along with Sad Raba Ve and at the top its beyond in her control which is more confusing for her.But what is this ,why is she crying ...Why these tears again?He is completely addled and perplexed by seeing her like that and at the top she is in the same state or may be worse than him.Their eyes meets with all the unsaid emotions then She can't face him anymore so leaves with her disconcerted thoughts leaving him with flustered than ever.



Arnav brings La back home ,everyone is happy but Naniji as she already sensed and asked Mamiji about their secret plan to bring La.Shyam calmed her down for Navratri Puja. Arnav's expressions change in the La's response"ASR did not let me go"hmmm ,...Don't go over there sweet heart you have no clue about his and Khushi equation but soon you will start realizing it.

Love this parallel scene two families are busy in Puja.In GH parents's proud their both daughters are joining em in this sacred puja.Bauji and his love and affection towards them made my heart heavy as this father is going to face a lot for saving em.Even Garima admires and respect this man's heart which always reach out for them.


He calls today to find out about Rani Sahiba but our Slither is hissing with his moves two feet ahead as he managed doing deal with "RANI SAHIBA" to make this old guy roam around circles with his sacred mission for his daughters.Today he proved to me a complete Psycho with a complete alibi as She said "Why do you enjoy playing these games with your friends?" means this is not the first time he did that.His BG music is intensifying his character more dark these days.😡😡😡

Pause here:In future this woman blacks mail him too when Khushi finds his truth at the top of terrace.

Another parallel scene which is the beginning of realizing feelings for each others.If she can't forget his embrace and her tears ,he can't forget her reaction and tears but both don't know the reason.WHY?????

Khushi,"hum preshan kyuon hain ,,,Akhir humare kehne phe tou...humain tou kush hone chahiye...aur jab woh dono saath...[Why am I worry...after he did because I ask for it...but when they were both together...]

Bingo the seed of possessiveness and jealousy is planted in her head as the #0 like her bangles round .Our Dhak Dhak started.First step towards Maturity ... being woman.

Shyam's is seeding another thought in Khushi...hey cupid this is the only reason I spare you these days."Khabi Khabi hum kissi chees ko duniya jahan mein dhondte rehte hain ..aur wog hoti humare ankhon keh samne hai..[Sometimes we seek things everywhere but can't find it right infront of us..]

Khushi's mind is kind a froze at that moment with La and Arnav togetherness"Why am I remembering that over and over and why am I worrying over it?" This is eating her ,Now you feel this...how Arnav couldn't sleep since the day you came into his life ,how is the taste of your own medicine Temptalicious!Nahhh...you are not there yet...

Pause here:While standing there this comes twice as # 2 is sexual tension fits on her this time though she does not have a clue.AT the top she forgot twice first Coconut and then Tea.and then two friends acc to Payal.

Symolism and connection:Coconut is known to be a religiously symbolic fruit for three reasons.
It has three parts - skin, pulp and water; all three are taken to be of purest form.
The fruit is at a great height and is pure of any impurities or pollution.
The pulp is spotless white; white is regarded a color of purity and piousness spotless. It is healthy and full of oil.
The water is also healthy and nectar like pure.
And, the raw fruit has three eyes like openings at the top of it which resembles to eyes of Gods Shiva Vishnu and Mahesh meaning fulfilling our desires.

In Chinese it refers togetherness

So connection is Khushi's desires for her Rajkumar will be fulfilled and it will also promote togetherness among both of them with some tangy flavor.She will also be the source to remove impurity of Shyam's evilness.But she will also remove impure thoughts of Arnav's beliefs.

Connecting Dots:During remarriage we also see Coconuts in Arnav's hand and Mamiji wants him to hit Khushi with that.Ahem Ahem and we had SR before the marriage as he did hit that on Khushi's head

Khushi wants to know what is wrong with her and tries to seek answer from Payal that why seeing some one makes you laugh and smile at the same time...but Shyam over hears her convo and asks her to find out about "Dhak Dhak" near that guy...He is really a Shatir Sly .He is thinking that its all about Him..uhhh.. keep dreaming you Dumbo Jumbo Slitherimbo...You and teaching Love lessons ..wow

"Kawa chala huns ki chal apni chal bhi bhool gayea"....as I said .His BG score is getting stronger these days ...

In RM...After morning Puja.Arnav comes down but Mamiji is right his train does not stop for every station and La's entry will not change anything in his life either .Anjali keep your suspicious the first one "may be" he will get mary with La and Akash Bitwa plz don't spend time on Bahi's llove life and dig in your Dupatta wali.Naniji is skeptical about that too because she is a mother and knows her kid as she is older and wiser than most of you.She does give permission for cleaning Mandir to la but La forgets Rose water and at he top she messed up with Tulsi pot.

Pause here:Today Arnav refused getting Tilak but will be doing in future and yes during Swami track Khushi will give him the most sexy Tilak ever.

Symbolism and connection:Tulsi as coconut has the same meaning "purity "and it is also used as Tusi Vivah and The meaning of the word marriage is the merging and oneness of the embodied soul (jiva) and God (Shiva).

Rose water is also has the same meaning purity.Each epi used couple of things towards common significance.Connection is same as above for coconut.

Where did Tulsi go????and Why????

MOMENT OF THE DAY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJhyxcrLXME

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hi arshi,
beautiful symbolisms. coconut, tulsi and their many meanings 👏⭐️... and navratri begins, a very crucial and auspicious time. he has walked in with la again, but she's not the one he will carry in one day. khushi does indeed become a woman with him 👏 and he can be himself with her. that seeking forgiveness is paving the way to so much.

loved the lines on why he came back to pick up la... yes it was to wipe away the tears that he couldn't bear to see. i get the feeling asr and khushi's past was far more interlinked than they finally showed. there are many hints of that, especially in his reaction to her tears.

beautiful beginning, his preoccupation with the other woman and viewing khushi through that erroneous prism. and the constant intervention of dm and maa to make sure these two are ok and they do connect.

lovely take, thanks.

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Originally posted by: samin6

Episode 85- 86
The fine line between being civil and caring:

Payal:
She evidently loved Khushi more then herself and not just because of simple civility of a sibling. So according to her when the night before- Khushi was like a car with flat tire- she was trying to be strong and the next day when she was flying like an airplane she saw confused. The love was evident in her indulgent smile when Khushi was trying purposefully make her jealous. She called the Raizada family to check if Khushi was OK.When Khushi came home she did not complain about the mess created but about Khushi writing a love letter to Arnav . We know that she never calls Raizada mansion unless really she needs to. When she called she actually told Akash about buaji's telephone bill. We usually do not say that being civil to people we really care, but those whom we do not usually mind saying that. We never saw her say that to Khushi, Amma or even Arnav when related to Khushi.

Lavanya : I doubt with all her education if she knew what being civil was. No wonder- Nani had to just say about marriage for her to go and start a fight with ASR. She could not take care of a situation, depends too much on what other people think and herself then what is right and wrong. She did not actually have much insight as Nani mentioned but at the same time was too stubborn to admit the same. She always needed someone else to support her. In her altercations with Nani she needs- Arnav, Khushi, Mami, and Anjali. In her altercations in the office she needed- two of the secretaries. In her altercation with Arnav- she needs Khushi and makeup. Even after her fight she was running to parents and spa. So I think she actually loved Khushi, Arnav and Mami- because she needed them, and it was not just being civil. She loved them because she needed them and they did respond to her need. The same reason she could not love Nani. Because Nani wanted her to be there when Chote needs him and she who had raised him could sense with her experience that Lavanya can not be there when Chote needs her.

Arnav : He was civil with Lavanya. He did not want her in his life, he did not like her acting as his wife, he did not want to share a bedroom with her, he did not want to really hug her. So he was civil and did not say anything. He cared for Lavanya because she needed him not because he did. Also usually anyone would want someone who is very similar to themselves. He was civil with her because in many respects Lavanya thought and acted like he did. He did not stop La from leaving the house and La did not ever stop him from leaving when he was upset with her like with her recent marriage antics and her makeup aftereffects. Of all the talk with being civil with Khushi for Anjali and Raizadas, it was evident he loved Khushi not just a simple being civil. He told her get out in no uncertain terms. He was rarely being civil with her in front of Anjali. In fact he showed her his worst behavior in front of Anjali- stating that he was her servant, stating to get out of his life and she can be brought with money and all. In front of La and the office he had no qualms in taking Khushi's hand and throwing her out. At the same time in the absence of Anjali and La he expressed his guilt, he carried her in a Mandir, he gave her water to break her fast, he cared not to tell Anjali that Khushi burned him, he gave her back her dupatta and said sorry for hurting her.It was not even for humanity as he did with others- because if it was he would have been pleased sending someone to rescue her from the farm house, or shouted for someone to rescue her- in Mandir where there are so many people, not rushed to her rescue. Would have simply said you are fired to her when in fight- not out of this house and my life. He loved her, that is why he simply was keeping the telephone waiting for her call, and knew she was calling even before she said a word.

Khushi : She loved Arnav and was actually civil with La. No wonder she was preparing La for Arnav. She wrote a love letter for Arnav. She prepared La for Arnav. After Arnav said sorry to her she was walking on the clouds which was visible to Payal and Amma. She smiled for the first time at Arnav because of him giving her that apology. She wrote him a love letter to show that she was sorry for causing him pain by the rift she caused between him and La. She did not care about being civil or self preservation when Arnav is associated. No wonder she came to the mansion exactly the next day after he told her to get out of the house without a single invitation. She did not even care about her Didi's thinking - " If they are destined to get back together- they simply would." She was concerned more then La because she was spending the night not sleeping, giving a letter, coming to say sorry- When La who had not left on her own accord was busy thinking of going to a parlor.

So we all know that Arnav is arrogant according to Khushi and Khushi is pagal according to Arnav and when they tolerate each other they give it the name being civil. Was wondering why do not see them being civil - infront of whom it was required to be civil? La is in love with Arnav according to ARSHIi-so why did La not think of what Arnav would have to be going though once? Payal is being just civil to Khushi- but if she did not love Khushi more then herself- why did she call Raizada mansion after all the misery they made her go through?

Samin, very very interesting points there. Food for thought. Good one. 👏

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