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Posted: 12 years ago
Originally posted by indi52



if just to say "ghar chalte hai," a guy looks this good, then what are we to do.

Indeed what we should or can do??????
episode 51

"there is a space between man's imagination and man's attainment that may only be traversed by his longing"
~~~ kahlil gibran ~~~
My fav QUOTE...

he turns and looks at door
one last time i'll look at you
rabba vey unwinds gently and eases into frame

when the most expressive pair of eyes long for someone with stirring eloquence, it's hard to think of anything else. to not feel all the things this torn young man must be feeling, unprepared as he was for emotions of this proportion.

As I mentioned to AMI he should Insure his eyes.His emotions and unspoken words from his eyes and body language ...just ufff

then a question came knocking. and though i tried to lock the door and refused to let it find me, it persisted. i have felt most uncomfortable watching the scenes of asr being paralleled with shyam's in the matter of khushi. while one's emotions have felt beautiful and right, the other one's completely illicit, even obscene.
Yes Indi you do feel in the absence and that shows the strength of that relationship no matter what kind of that either in between parents or kids OR lovers
yet, both men had women in their lives. not just shyam. had asr not brought lavanya and it was just a casual fling between two people who belonged to the same world, it would be one thing, but now it wasn't that. thanks to his confrontation with his grandmother over choices and the individual's right to live the way he or she wants to, he now had brought la home. the complexion of there relationship had changed. it was as close to permanence as two people who expressly did not believe in marriage could take their relationship. she trusted him. she read some sort of commitment in this act of his.

and yet, his thoughts were wrapped like a stubborn dupatta around another girl, flying to her thoughts at the sight or sound of anything. why did this feel right and not what shyam was doing?

Three cheers👏👏👏 for this Indi.Bang on.Yes they both are some what same but I give ASR benefit of doubt as he is at least somewhat HONEST as compared to the other one who is totally deceit.ASR is not cheating anyone in Lust.I think if Khushi would have given him chance to speak situation would be different.

i guess it was to do with the response of the two men to the situation they found themselves in. while shyam never tried, not even once, to fight the attraction he felt, asr did everything he could not to think of her. not only because of la, because of himself, and his stated idea of there being no space for love in his life.
At the top his past experience of his parents played a big role.I am so certain Shyam's past is connected to but we've been doped.

till the very end, he tried to deny the claim her thoughts made on him. he fought hard, very hard. he tried to be fair to la, he almost convinced himself, but finally la saw the thing for what it was.

Yes but at the same time Khushi's attitude and ego played a big role too

he admitted then perhaps he'd never really been fair to la. and in their interaction was a respect for each other, a pain, that made you feel, this is the inexplicable grip of human relations that we do often find ourselves in. we may want it all to be cut and dried but matters of heart rarely are. the essential question is how we deal with the difficult questions.

which is where character comes in, i guess. shyam unfortunately, was made of weak and dark and ugly things. while asr of stuff more noble, more clear and strong.

Noble VS SHAITAN 😡

even after la left, it wasn't as though asr immediately chased his feelings for khushi, he just kept trying to ignore them, till he just couldn't and had to say, he would tell her that day "farq kyun padta hai."

shyam wouldn't understand the finer points of such a struggle, nor why you must search for the right path, for him always the easy way out. a huge difference in the way he defined living life his way and the way asr defined the same thing. as far as shyam is concerned, this constitutes getting everything he wants, no matter what happens to others. to asr, it is getting to live the way he wants without interfering with the way others want to live their lives.

and so it was that i just got lost looking at a man completely tossed by the absence of a woman who said she was going "hamesha ke liye." how out of it all his air when di finds him, and that caught unawares look in the eyes, the slightly unrooted feel, how does an actor get the perfect nuance of a moment as hard to describe as that. no over acting, no under acting, there was a man standing immersed in another world, and his sister walked in on him.

a pause.
someone should learn from this young man how to make utterly ordinary things sound fabulous. You just answered your QUESTION...👏"kuch nahin... chale," oh the distracted air in the voice. "jijaji yahan kya kar rahe honge...," a grainy rasp in the voice... "di, let's go!" er, how does one not get stuck here?



so many times it looked like she would walk in on the truth regarding her husband. as at this very moment. but again the hide and seek with shyam's truth continued. what started with a suspicious frown ended on a smiling, indulgent, "aap bhi na..." shyam again made use of his extreme ease with lying and got his saale saab and raani sahiba exactly where he wanted them.

Yeap in LaLa land so he can enjoy his deceit Land😡


but shyam wasn't the only one with a penchant for the non-truth here. far away in a car, another liar fretted. again a question, why did khushi lie about leaving town? the answer can go so many ways, in literature class this could well end up being the favourite of examiners, if not for anything just to see how imaginative the students were capable of being.

I totally agreed though Literature is not my fav thing but one line usually takes whole two hrs worth of discussion

my easy answer: she was feeling, just like him, things unfamiliar, things too powerful, and things she neither knew what to call, nor wanted. too complicated. a young girl from a sheltered middle class home, her head already filled with several set notions of what's love, marriage, duty, etc., and what a "good" man was all about, was certainly not prepared for the things she was feeling. why was she constantly thinking of the rakshas, why wasn't she happy at the thought of never seeing him? and then in that hot and bothered storeroom, everything possibly came to a head. not just her heart, her desire possibly spoke and said things that terrified her.
She was so unfamiliar with these emotions and got overwhelmed by these and yes scared too.Put yourself in her shoes 18,small town gal full of manners...way too hard for her to even accept it even these emotions are raging like a hurricane

so she had to find a way to shut it all out. and without thinking, just wanting to hit back at the one who caused this unplanned madness, she lied. to hurt him back. the canny thing in us always knows to whom we matter and to whom we don't. she knew her declaration would bother him, badly, not make him "khush." i'd have loved to hear her say some day, she knew even then they had a weird thing for each other, and tell him how much it had bothered her to even consider leaving delhi.

thankfully, the jalebis saved the day, and back khushi turned, to walk right back toward her rakshas, this time with a lovely rational excuse. they will run a sweet shop from bediji's empty space adjoining the garage. by dropping the chunari on her that morning, this is what devi maiya was hinting at. not to leave delhi.


asr held the chunari handed to him by di and remembered a girl in a storeroom, saving her dm, falling on her, her thoughts plagued him. shyam took the piece of cloth from his hand and tied it on the mirror. but by then what the chunari had to tie it already had. a girl who was an expert maker of sweets and a diabetic who'd be totally bowled over by her sweetness.
So sweet INDI this is your Literature speaking

again i wonder, what if there were no dm to organise the proceedings and push the two stubborn ones toward each other? wouldn't love find its way anyway? are we capable of finding the right path through right thought and action on our own, or is life/the etrnal's interference an axiomatic truth and requirement?

Love finds its way as ocean can't be hold with boundaries


too many questions today. behaving like la in the kitchen. so cute, so clueless.
LOVED THE DIALOGUES OF THESE EARLY EPIS

and here's a log of the most clued up one's dialogwas this episode for your enjoyment. nebher phere bhen mami's here.

1.
ee cookerwa bhi sasuma se poochke siti bajaayga ka?

will this cooker whistle only after asking ma in law?

2.
ari o miss teep taap kassyap...

oh miss tip top kassyap.

3.
ee pyaaj kati ho ki pyaajaaa

have you sliced onions or slashed them (loosely translated)

4.
hamri akhiyan ke kaajal se hote hain sab ghayal... dekho kaise chhum chhum bajti, dekho humri payal...

the kohl in my eyes breaks many a heart, now see how prettily my anklets (payal) ring... there was a playful hint by the dialogue guys about the payal that would ring quite a bell in her life.

5.
hello ho bye bye... arre aise isspoon se karogi toh rotiyan humre goldeyn jublee par banee.

hello hi bye bye, if you use a spoon to do that, then the dough will be rady on my golden jubilee.

6.
arre kaanstipessan baad mein, pehle kaam.

not constiptaion, first work.

7.
haan miss teep taap kassyap, tum singal pees ho.

yes, miss tiptop kassyap, you're a single piece.

how elated a girl who was ready to leave was at the plan she'd cooked up to stay back.


remember how sad she was when leaving seemed inevitable? and still she believes she wants to have nothing to do with him... hai re nand kissore.

and here was a man looking back yet again, next to him the one who never had any right to, but had no sense of wrong.



finally, a cap i couldn't resist. some day asr will take of those glasses that clouded his vision. this one, if we needed an excuse 😉, is in anticipation of that.
I know RIGHT>>>>>>





Indi my comments are in red

Edited by ArshiHamesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: wiwy

I am sooo glad that at least some of you are in the same botwa, sorry aloowa as me. I was really perturbed when nani pointed out that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach!!!!



obviously we are not at all achhi bahu material.

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Posted: 12 years ago
thanks, arshi, for your red ones on 52. ha ha, i took lit in school, because would you believe it i was too scared of physics though i had this funny lau for it? you are right, one line = one whole class, and how i wanted to run away. but look now, the topicwa is interesting and how i go on and on. am planning a huge 53. yay. agree, khushi helped a lot in la's path finding. she was quite a character. in season 2 i'd love to see her unresolved side and its resolution. shyam's past being thrown away, one of the biggest blunders in tv history.
Edited by indi52 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
@ Katlyn
Wonderful edits by your friend .JUst too good
:)

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: cinthiann1758



Indi I think out of all of your writings this is my absolute fave. I love how you compare all and I love how if we really think about it ASR and Shyam, both spoken for, lusted over Kushi. The difference I agree, one was a snake, married with the sin of infidelity the other in total denial but made a move towards a somewhat committed realtionship with Lavanya. I truly love love love this! and now I question myself why I was not as angry with him as I was with Shyam but now I know and I have discerned that yes he was a bad boy too! I had hoped his denial of his feelings for Kushi compensated for the infidelity if you will. interesting thoughts! Hmmm...



thanks so much, cynthia. aww and i'm so glad you loved. was a bit worried when these thoughts came and sat on me. thought it would upsetr readers, i'd get rotten eggs and tomatoes, 😆

but as i watched, realised why asr's attitude i could live with. and the more i see, the more visible his struggle is becoming. that is good, no one said human relations are not gouing to be messy, it's really how you deal with it. if shyam had been attracted to khushi, but found a way to understand it, let it go slowly, whatever, one thing, but his attitude that he had every right to have her in his life, no matter what, ugh that was 🤢. in 53 i noticed asr sitting apart and aloof from la, his thoughts are constantly going to khushi and he's finding it hard to carry on with la as usual. interesting.
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Posted: 12 years ago
episode 53

@Sohara

"Khushi joined them. She was also worried, but took away the writing book to distract them. She put the book in the cupboard and found an old radio. She turned it on and an old Hindi movie song started to play there. Khushi tried to lighten up the mood of Payal by dancing and acting. Buaji also joined them. All of them danced in the tune forget about the financial crisis of the family. Khushi got relaxed to see her jiji and Buaji happy. They didn't have money, but they knew how to find happiness in trivial thing, specially Khushi. She sure finds her happiness to make her family happy.
" SO true Khushi is way too positive and remains like that and hides her own pain for the sake of others 👍🏼

"Does shooting stars remain that long in the sky. though I never watched it in real life but read that it vanishes in a blink of an eye"
even i hav wondered tht...i wanna see one...nd make a wish...

Yes It remains in the sky for seconds though but lingers and make the same line as they showed in IPK its origin is fat round and then change into streaky line😊

"May be he wished Khushi not to go to Lucknow. And God fulfilled his wish too. Anjali wished for her bro's happiness. This time also, she wished that somebody comes to Arnav's life who takes away all of his pain. She sure knew La was not the girl for Arnav and Arnav didn't love La. " -you said it right.He wants her to stay and his sister made a wish for him not for herself too good👍🏼

"Now I doubted his intimacy with La. Was he physically involved with her. May be not. He didn't even used to look at her properly."
- he feels the connection or the intimacy hmmm... he definitely has physical intimacy but not like WITH LOVE only Khushi .brought that side of him out and thats why he started hating her first and then fell for her completely..😉
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



obviously we are not at all achhi bahu material.

🤣 🤣 🤣


You know I was actually thinking I was the only one who had Dom Aloo disaster. By the way you know even if you are Achchi Bahu material Indi and Wiwy the day you make Dom Aloo if you were in my place you would not be. Trust me it makes a huge mess in the kitchen and of your temper for days to come.
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Posted: 12 years ago
arshi,

you are 100 percent right to point out, the telepathy scene starts somewhere in that wishing scene in 53. he could sense her even then, but in his deep hidden subconscious. hers are the only thought in his head when eyes are shut and the mind finds its inner place. i wish they'd hinted a bit as to her thoughts. though at this stage, no she wouldn't possibly think of him in this state, but her sheer happiness at having found a way to stay on in delhi might be an indication of his influence on her.

and sorry, here are the missing claps 😆. this one is for telepathy. 👏 👏 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

@samin

Dear Arshi and Indi,
I really loved both your Analysis. I think this is one episode where I really wished was part of discussion when the episode was airing originally and then was traveling and had not seen this until way later. Any way I think both Khushi and Arnav's inner feeling best is depicted in this episode. Loved Arshi- you recalling the telepathy dialogue. I think we also saw how he could not forget Khushi. It was very touchy when Anjali understood that Arnav was wishing for the person who would take away his pain and bring happiness for him and that is what she wished for him from the stars. The brother sister relationship was really magical and the love palpable. Anjali wished only happiness for her brother, she did not even wish for herself or her husband or anyone else.
Khushi and Payal on the other hand were wishing for their parents and the happiness of their parents. It was evident that both cared and loved their parents a lot and which was evidently reciprocated. I think I really admired the way Shashi took her daughters to darga after the wedding broke and made Amma realize that giving dowry was going to give more problems. I loved how Amma although upset with Khushi for breaking her sister's wedding was still more concerned that buaji will be angry with her and was not going to allow her say anything to them.

Totally agreed with you in all colors.Underlined red is the key element of these early epis and this epi is so FULL of it.Anjali was portrayed so sweet and caring in these early epis than the later.They both were wishing each others without uttering a word Just like TELEPATHY .In this epi they were in denial but were feeling each other so badly.It is written on their faces and evident from their expressions.

I loved You mention Shashiji.He loves Khushi a lot and knows her way more than Ammaji.I am so enjoying these epis.
LOVED your VM😊


OK thanks. But I was watching a Vm which actually showed magical moments after feb. So I am cherishing those moments.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

thanks, arshi, for your red ones on 52. ha ha, i took lit in school, because would you believe it i was too scared of physics though i had this funny lau for it? you are right, one line + one whole class, and how i wanted to run away. but look now, the topicwa is interesting and how i go on and on. am planning a huge 53. yay. agree, khushi helped a lot in la's path finding. she was quite a character. in season 2 i'd love to see her unresolved side and its resolution. shyam's past being thrown away, one of the biggest blunders in tv history.


INDI I don't think we need Literature for IPK or as Supriya says I should have Phd saved on Blog.I am a Physicist and this show is bringing I don't know what out of me and I can't stop writing and you mentioned it already and I am pretty sure so many of you will be bored of that too already.IPK is just something GOOD happen to me so be it.
PLEASE INDI don't bring my hopes up....

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