Some Things That are Just Plain Wrong Note 15

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ever since I have joined this forum...I have witnessed some things and phenomena.. which to me as a person is just plain appalling and wrong!!
Yeah I may refuse to participate in some discussions and arguments plainly because they seem like failed cases! I dont see any amount of reasoning and arguing making any sense or helping anyone see sense... but that doesnt mean I hail them as correct or support them in any ways!!

Over and above the show and the forum... there are some things a thinking person cannot close his/ her eyes to and so I have decided to take a step... how I will take it up, I have yet to decide but I would love to know if people have witnessed, experienced or have views and opinions on things I have have stated below and if yes I would like to hear them!!!


Things that are of Concern to me
  • The wide age range of people that are allowed to interact with each other is within the legal age, but to see really young people interact with those who are probably double their age. They are not just interacting regularly but also in ways getting influenced and many a times, wrongly influenced. And there is no monitoring of this from any end!!

  • The anonymity of the web is not something that needs explaining. Its gives a free mask to all of us and many a time this anonymity has been misused...sometimes to be rude and abusive and sometimes to be a gossip spreader that in the web world is known to go too far!!
  • The bias representation media is taking up on the online channels, which many a times has been seen to draw news from gossip among general public and sometimes individually try to influence general public.

  • The misuse of the power of a web page... everyone is a writer today!! Where in the offline world the reality check is done by the publishing house of media that thinks one's piece has the authenticity and quality of writing to be published and read by all... the web world lets everyone adorn the hat of a writer and they have the license to write any nonsense which could be incorrect, subjective and highly insulting and there is no monitoring of this kind of writing and it still reaches many and influences then!

  • Lack of parental monitoring!! I am surprised how parents have no clue now a days as to how much time their kids are spending on the internet and doing what? And I have come across many a case that definitely needed some monitoring cause this is definitely going to be determinant of the future of their kid!!

Disclaimer: Please refrain from making direct remarks at anyone and taking names. Share your views and opinions and experiences discretely!! Lets not make this a battle ground!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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As a member of a forum, I dont screen what I say based on what I think someones age or level of maturity is...I give it back the way its given to me...If I am being disrespected, I won't be taking the so called higher moral ground. And for that reason I wont preach on about how people should behave, talk, interact here nor do I do that in the real world. Live and let live.

But the fact that there are some teens, even pre-teens that are on this forum is what I don't understand. When I was 15 and first started using the web, I can assure you I was not allowed to be part of any open forum or chat rooms where any random Joe or Joan could interact with me.

The level of free reign some of these kids have is insane. Many of these members are at an impressionable age and we have seen prime examples of how other members can lead them into jumping on any bandwagon blindly. When we have the older, supposedly mature members spoon feeding the kids any which way, what hope is there for the younglins?

These kids shouldn't be allowed on an open platform like this. Parents need to be more proactive
about how their children interact online especially when you have an increase in cyber bullying, predators taking place.

Note: I might not believe in preaching how others should talk or behave but I don't condone or ignore cyber attacks...if i see that happening and there is no free pass from my end.
Edited by McNinja - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Juhi to say I was shocked would be an understatement!
I am just 18. I know how to respect others.But those people who used such an abusive language and attacked a fellow member claim to be matured people and even Media people.
Manners is something which is Inbuilt.You cannot teach manners and respect to an adult. Sadly,It just shows their upbringing.

Unless or until an individual realizes it on his/her own it cannot be changed.
Even if those people pay a visit to this post they will not realize their mistake.They will just defend their actions and will try to blame the others.
I would say that they are a bunch of cowards hiding behind a computer and using that freedom to dominate or show superiority over the others.

Web world has given us the freedom.And to use that freedom in a dignified way is all in our hands.

And many people who portray themselves as adults set a wrong example to the teens by leading them in a wrong path.Doing Spamming SP missions and pushing the people even more into the delusional world.

Teens are badly getting influenced by such faceless people. And the worst thing is People are following them blindly. Glad Im not one among them.

Its not good to see certain people taking advantage of the web freedom and misusing it and its even worse to see people falling for their traps!
Edited by GayuArnav - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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SOME FACTS FOR THE RULE MAKERS AND UPHOLDERS ..

JULES THIS IS FOR THE RIGHT THINGS GOING WRONG ...BULLYING IS NOT ACCEPTABLE NO MATTER WHAT AGE , IT CAN ONLY MAKE THE ONE WHO HARASSES STRONGER NOT WISER. GIVES THE POWER TO CONTINUE . I

LIKE YOU MENTIONED AT THE LAST PART OF YOUR POST, MISUSE AND ANONYMITY POWER , lack of parental monitoring makes it easier to an epidemic that has started in schools and now on the Internet.

What Counts as Cyberbullying?

Cyberbullying is the use of technology to harass, threaten, embarrass, or target another person. Online threats, rude texts, and mean tweets, posts, or messages all count. So does posting personal information or videos designed to hurt or embarrass someone else.

Cyberbullying also includes photos, messages, or pages that don't get taken down, even after the person has been asked to do so. In other words, it's anything that gets posted online and is deliberately intended to hurt.

In some situations, cyberbullying is considered harassment.Intimidation or mean comments that focus on things like a person's gender, religion, sexual orientation, race, or physical differences fall into this category. Whether it's done in person or online, this type of meanness counts as discrimination and is against the law in many states. That means law enforcement could get involved, and bullies may face serious penalties.

Some schools or other organizations might make a distinction between bullying and harassment. That's because of legal differences and definitions. But to the person being harassed or bullied, there's no real difference ' it's painful to go through, no matter what you call it.

Online bullying can be particularly damaging and upsetting because it's usually anonymous or hard to trace. People can be tormented on a 24/7 basis ' anytime they check their phone or computer. Sometimes, they might not know what's being said behind their backs or where the meanness is coming from.

Online bullying and harassment can be easier to commit than other acts of bullying because the bully doesn't have to confront his or her target in person.

Sometimes, online bullying, like other kinds of bullying, can leave people at risk for serious problems: Stress from being in a constant state of upset or fear can lead to problems with mood, energy level, sleep, and appetite. It also can make someone feel jumpy, anxious, or sad. If someone is already depressed or anxious, cyberbullying can make things much worse.

It's not just the person being bullied who gets hurt. The punishment for cyberbullies can be serious. More and more schools and after-school programs are creating systems to respond to cyberbullying. Schools may kick bullies off sports teams or suspend them from school. Some types of cyberbullying may violate school codes or even break anti-discrimination or sexual harassment laws, so a bully may face serious legal trouble.

Although it's not a good idea to respond to a bully, it is a good idea to save evidence of the bullying if you can. It can help you prove your case, if needed. You don't have to keep mean emails, texts, or other communications where you see them all the time ' you can forward them to a parent or save them to a flash drive.

If a Friend Is a Bully

If you know of a friend who is acting as a cyberbully, take him or her aside and talk about it. Without putting your friend down, stand up for your own principles: Let the bully know it's not OK.

Explain to your friend that bullying can have very serious consequences: for the bully, for the person (or people) being bullied, and even for bystanders like you and your friends. Meanness is like pollution ' it can spread to bystanders who may get stressed out or upset about what's going on. Do what you can to build a bully-free environment!

Edited by prabba - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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the maturity & the awareness of the member / individual is the only way the issue can be sorted out !

Edited by Arhi-Did-IT - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Juhi,
This forum needed this post .
Using abusive language and living in a delusional world itself shows the level of maturity or immaturity of these people who involved themselves in this unpardonable act.
I hope they understand by doing this they are putting up questions on their upbringing which are pointing directly towards their parents.
Every actions has consequences and the supposedly mature people should understand this and stop instigating the teen minds towards this kind of destructive and anti social behavior.
I really hope this article at least is able to reach the people who are trying to manipulate young minds, i hope they understand the impact they are having not only on them but also their future.

Edited by Jusad - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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res..will edit in sometime..and this sometime can be long..
some of the thoughts which i was going through plus some others

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I believe nothing is right or wrong unless something mentioned on paper as laws.It all depends on the perception.
Maturity can not be judged by age.Its reflected from what one writes.From what one thinks.From the way how one react to certain situation(here news,information,others opinion).
Maturity is not just writing big words but also practicing what one preach.Maturity is also when one start ignoring things(which is not their interest) or respectfully disagree without stooping low to prove that I am right and you are wrong.Maturity also means to acknowledge that we all are different and difference in opinion is natural.Maturity also means when one has the courage to accept ones fault without blaming onto others.These are my POV and one can agree or disagree to this.

If we talk about influencing then what I have observed in this forum is people choose the group according to their vested interest(like minded people,over here its choosing your most fav,choosing something which will entertain you and give a some time happiness).
For eg:in last 3 months there were equal posts on Barun called a liar,unprofessional,abusing Gul,conspiracy theory,okay with whatever happening and accepting that everything is normal and no one is wrong.And I must say all post will equally influencing.And all the posts were made on the same sets of available information.But everyone inferred in their own way.And what one chose to believe was again a vested interest(i.e what makes them happy).No one can influence you until you want to get influenced.Be it be teen or adult.

Anonymity is something which I have always mentioned in my post.We take the advantage of this mask to abuse actors,PH,channel and the fellow forum members.
And its just not the last incidence of Barun's leave that mad gossip.It started with Daljeet's leave/negotiation.I was shocked to see forum gossiping about her intentions,abusing Dalejeet,calling names,mocking at her and for what just because she thought for her career.And surprisingly i thought this forum has adults,working people who understand the importance of career.
And as someone mentioned about cyber bullying.Is this not cyber bullying that one questions an actor because of character to the extent that the actor has to come in public and give an explanation.But no here people think its their right to know things and actor's duty to answer as they are public figure.Last I knew actor's duty was to act and he/she is answerable only to their employers related to something with their job.
Then comes Gautam Hegde's twits.That person was irritated to the heights and when he gave a direct answer people took it as poor PR.And then Gautam and Deepali both left twitter.
Then Gul and Barun.These 2 were tortured the most.And these 2 were harassed to the extent that they have to arrange an interview in spite of their busy schedules.Though the actor gave 3 interviews separately repeating same things again and again.
I have seen adults and teens both questioning someone if he/she wants to move ahead in his career.I have seen adults and teens applauding another forum member for a hate letter.I have seen adult and teens calling a general interview as scripted.I have seen adult and teens both using an abuse and calls it a constructive criticism(my definition of constructive is only valid if I have all information available and its without any mere assumptions) towards PH,actor,channel.I have seen both adults and teens making inferences or judgements,passing comments based on their assumptions and blaming someone or the other for anything that has gone wrong knowing none of knows the actual behind the camera story completely.I have seen both adult and teens passing comments on some one's personal life..accusing actor that he has used his personal pics to remain in news..accused another PH that they are using actor's personal pics for publicity...So where does an adult stands better than a teen or teen stands better than adults?

Again a shocking appreciation of Gossip was Zee_news.I still see people appreciating zee_news for the correct news but no one ever thought that how unprofessional and unethical was it to leak a confidential news before time.And it was the beginning of gossip.Those people come and leak information because similar kind of people have been entertained here.And then never ending self claimed sources.The news being true or false comes later for me,its the way the news comes thats important.And then the gossips never ended.

Media sales what customers buys.Media print news which will sell well.And thats what the rumor word has got so importance in media world.When an actor,PH and channel gives a proper interview people call it scripted,liar and what not.So,its not that people have not been provided with information but its upto people to choose what they want to believe.

This is a big bad world.And I believe no parent intentionally will like to kick their children which has a negative impact.I feel this forum is a much better place than other websites available on internet.And its not always teens fault.Sometimes they are provoked and sometimes they are under estimated in their activity.This forum has its advantages and disadvantages equally like any other source of entertainment available.I have seen the obsession and disliking this forum has for their favorites or non-favorites in extremes.And its just not teens for whom its not good but also for adults.All one need is self monitoring.

Fans has no age.I remember watching KBC last year and I have seen ladies reactions on seeing or listening to Amitabh Bachhan.Personally I will or had never do/done this.But neither do I laugh at those who behaves like this.
But here I have seen fans(be it be SI or BS or DB or anyone's fans)are mocked at.Fans have no age.All I know fans are dedicated then be it be SRK's or Rajinikant's or Sachin's or Salman's or Amitabh's.I have also seen people who uses their fav as their role model and their inspiration.

If someone says me this forum's adults are better than teens in anyways I will just laugh at it.Because I have never seen that.This forum has only shown the fan dedication towards their respective favorites and hatred towards someone they do not like(or their decision does not pleases me) and has gone to any level to prove their point and hurt someone who do not agree to their opinion.
Another thing is humor and sarcasm as temparance mentioned.I very much agree to her points.
Humor in my understanding is different from mocking.Why do one need someone else to have fun among an own group.Its selfishness.Is n't it more better to laugh at oneself instead of laughing at others.I call that a good humor.And I have seen people who actually have good sense of humor.Its so easy to make fun of other people and their emotions intentionally or unintentionally.If one believe he/she has good sense of humor then prove it by laughing at own self.Because in that way you are not hurting anyone.And it requires actual creativity.

Edited by coolnisha_fun87 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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as someone who is from the 30s I have been shocked by the use of curse words in this forum
even on me
again let me put that down to cultural differences
One more shocking thing is the freedom teens enjoy
and sadly the so called adults abusing the teens knowing very well they are teens
who is more mature in that situation I wonder
One more pathetic thing is older married woman making downright on the face drooling posts that sets the teens to follow suit
and again gives a wrong lesson on moraility
well i have stopped talking now
because then one is accused of preaching
so i wud rather preach to my close set of people and my own son
who at least will listen to me
Edited by rima - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arhi-Did-IT

the maturity & the awareness of the member / individual is the only way the issue can be sorted out !




Unfortunetly Harushu there is no scale that can measure someone's level of maturity when they are on the web which can be use das a deciding factor to allow them access and entrance to many place that requires it!!

And people who seem mature may turn out to be inmature and vice versa!! Also maturity somehow doesnt seem to be bound by age anymore!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jules

Unfortunetly Harushu there is no scale that can measure someone's level of maturity when they are on the web which can be use das a deciding factor to allow them access and entrance to many place that requires it!!

And people who seem mature may turn out to be inmature and vice versa!! Also maturity somehow doesnt seem to be bound by age anymore!


my name is spelt wrong
which is why i put awareness too both the elements help each other 😛

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