What I LOVED: 5th November 2012

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What I LOVED: 5th November 2012

I am unable to write the usual long review today for two reasons:

1. A sequence started today, but it completes tomorrow

2. I gotta sleep on time as I have a training tomorrow that I cannot avoid ' coz I'm the trainer and if I miss it, the thing gets cancelled *Yay me!*

Yeah, I loved the Arnav-Khushi scenes and now let's get on to more pressing matters!
Some crunchy bits to chew on after a nice long karwachauth fast for the Fandom - yearning by now for a cool game.

The Game of Chess

Aarav asked Arnav for a favor and the next thing we know is that Arnav plays a game of chess with Aarav.

Arnav lost the game. This is the third game Arnav played.

>> In the Basketball match, Sheetal equated Arnav's score.

>> In the karwachauth challenge with Khushi, Arnav lost' but this was to his benefit.

>> In the Chess, Aarav beat Arnav.

References:

WIL: 25th October: The Maze:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3257171/what-i-loved-25th-october-2012

WIL: 26th October: The Maze ' II:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3258852/what-i-loved-26th-october-2012

So... given the pointers we got here now:

>> Hidden Information:

Sheetal is hiding the name of Aarav's father, but is that bad? Is she trying to protect Aarav? Is she going to need Arnav's help? If Sheetal is deliberately trying to prove that Aarav is Arnav's son ' but her motive is to protect him, does that make her bad?

Aarav has been Sheetal's focus. Sheetal has stated that'whatever she is doing, it is for Aarav'.

A funny thing: NK did manage to see Sheetal thru the sieve. I don't know yet whether to congratulate him or not.

>> Castling:

It is a move in Chess where the King is interchanged with the Castle (in Hindi, the elephant). This is done to save the king ' the motive is protection.

The one who used Castling was Aarav. Aarav's king was protected. Arnav, however, lost the game when Aarav was protected.

Castling means Aarav interchanged the Castle with the King. Did someone or something get interchanged? Something that protected Aarav, but meant that Arnav lost the game? DNA Report, maybe? The DNA sample, maybe? The real father of the kid, maybe?

If it did ' this is more probably a deliberate move.

Funny thing: If this is a deliberate move, how does Aarav asking for a favor fit in?

Is it that 'someone' or 'something' was interchanged and now Aarav needs protection OR Aarav needs protection therefore 'someone' or'something' was interchanged?

>> The Favor:

Favor is usually asked for help. Following the favor, Aarav used castling for protecting his king.

Here, the one asking the favor was Aarav. Does he need to be protected? From whom?

Aarav trusts Sheetal. She has been his mother (from what we know yet) that he's been with her ever since. Aarav doesn't know anything of his father except that he is like his father.

Aarav has been shown to be more like Arnav than anyone else (unless there is another one like ASR).

>> The Foul:

Khushi finally gives in to seeing the DNA Report. The pressure from the past few days, plus what she saw and heard this very night has pushed Khushi to the limit. Khushi sees the DNA report and apparently the DNA matches. Khushi has deduced that Aarav is in fact Arnav's son.

Arnav did initially mistrust Khushi, but then knowing her for who she was, he trusted Khushi without proofs. He's never asked any details nor sought proofs even after he knew of the truth.

Would Khushi trust Arnav in the presence of proofs?

Darling Khushi: DNA report ' if correct ' only proves that DNA matches. It does not prove that Aarav is Arnav's son. For that, dearie, there is something called the Paternity test. Go for that, my love!

I wonder if she is close to playing the foul now. Arnav might understand her move, but it would simply mean Khushi must leave the court and Sheetal & Arnav play it out.

Funny thing: Arnav gifted Khushi a company to make her financially independent.

On the Lighter Side

1. Mami Jaan was cute! Breaking her fast via telecom!

2. Mami Jaan: Hari Prakash aaj tum Hari Prakash se Hurry Up hui jao!

3. LOVED Anjali taking pics of NK under the table. She's caught someone hiding their vrat!!

Precap

Khushi confronts Sheetal with the DNA report and karwachauth fast.

Sheetal refutes.

How Sheetal responds to the DNA test report determines if she is lying.

Arnav has stated that he isn't Aarav's father. Arnav usually doesn't lie ' unless, he is teasing Khushi.

What I'd like to see:

>> If Sheetal agrees that he is, I'm interested to see how she proves it to Arnav. The DNA report and Aarav's likeness to Arnav is enough to prove it to anyone that Arnav is the father ' anyone except Arnav.

Whatever anyone believes, Arnav knows he is not the father.

>> NK had believed and helped Khushi when Arnav wasn't there.

Who helps Arnav if our Buddy lands in trouble? I hope ' there is someone who'd trust him.

>> Arnav wanted to free Khushi from the ritual of fasting for him every year and challenged her to it. Anjali helped Arnav in something she knew might hurt Khushi ' but she trusted Arnav, knowing that he'd never really hurt Khushi.

>> NK didn't trust Khushi rightaway, but Khushi proved herself by letting NK check Shyam's shoes himself. I wonder if Anjali trusts Arnav rightaway. However, today she did catch someone trying to hide their vrat ;>

I would love to see a stronger Anjali trusting Chotte.

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Hi Shalini,

Thanks for opening the thread and the pointers.👏

GOOD LUCK with your training, Hope all goes well.👍🏼👍🏼

MY THOUGHTS -

Another gorgeous episode!! TOTALLY LOVED IT!!👏👏

LOVED the focus is still on Arnav Khushi❤️

LOVED the character growth of Anjali❤️

LOVED Naniji consoling Anjali, she's been there for Anjali like a mother❤️

LOVED Mamiji breaking fast in a hi- tec way❤️

LOVED Arnav giving attention to Khushi and only Khushi❤️

LOVED Arnav still treating Sheetal a guest and nobody❤️

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The real act of marriage takes place in the heart, not in the ballroom or church or synagogue. It's a choice you make ' not just on your wedding day, but over and over again ' and that choice is reflected in the way you treat your husband or wife. ~ Barbara De Angelis.

The divine power chose Arnav Khushi as its favorite children and Arnav Khushi chose each other, with their perfections, imperfections.

Arnav was married to Khushi the day he realized his love for her, the day he realized she is the one for him; she is the one without whom he cannot breathe. He fell in love with her, he married her and accepted her for what she is a total "PAGAL JHALLI".

If there is anybody who knows how unique she is, it's Arnav.

If there is anybody who knows how forgiving she is, it's Arnav.

If there is anybody who knows how selfless she is, it's Arnav.

If there is anybody who knows how innocent she is, it's Arnav.

If there is anybody who knows how giving she is, it's Arnav.

If there is anybody who knows how beautiful her heart is, it's Arnav.

If there is anybody who knows how loving & caring she is, it's Arnav.

If there is anybody who knows how brave she is, it's Arnav.

Everybody in RM and GH has seen the above characteristics of Khushi, but Arnav experienced these things about Khushi when he was at his worst, when he was putting her thru the worst pain.

Arnav was definitely attracted to Khushi's beauty, but it's her pure characteristics that really touched his heart and soul. These are the characteristics because of which he would never let her go and he couldn't stay away from her.

He has already accepted Khushi heart, soul, body, and mind. He bowed to Khushi in front of his mother and put her on the pedestal above him and everybody else.

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KKGSR DABBA SERVICE - DIL SE

"The best gifts come from the heart, not the store." ~ SARAH DESSEN, LOCK AND KEY

Being a rich business tycoon, Arnav probably doesn't have to worry about Khushi's financial security but he wanted to do it in such a way that he doesn't make her feel uncomfortable, something DIL SE, and something that makes her smile. Reminded me of "KHUSHI'S BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION".

- He buys her 2 lac handbag

- He decorates poolside, he buys cake

- He buys her a sari

But he can't buy her a smile, couldn't do something Dil Se.

He saw her smiling wholeheartedly, when he gave her channe, Golgappe, SK poster, Jalebi and pearls. Arnav is a quick learner and smart one too. On that day he learned what makes Khushi Happy and since that day '

- Arnav successfully brought smile to Khushi

- Arnav does everything to make her happy

- Arnav doesn't do anything to make her uncomfortable

- Arnav doesn't do anything to make Khushi change

Arnav also knows how swabhimaani Khushi is, how she never likes taking help from others especially financial.

When Buaji didn't have money to pay rent he wanted to help Khushi wholeheartedly and he wanted her to ask him money HAQ SE, but she doesn't. Though he buys the house and helps Khushi he still gives her the impression that she earned the money with her hard work. He knows how happy she feels about it. BOTTOMLINE HE WANTED TO SUPPORT HER!!

So instead of giving her his money he wants her to make her own money with what she loves most ' FOOD!! BOTTOMLINE HE WANTS TO SUPPORT HER!!

Anybody can gift money, but what Arnav gifted to Khushi today is a rarity ' HE GIVES HER INDEPENDENCE!!👍🏼

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SHEETAL -

I think today Sheetal made a big move to trap Khushi and she's been successful. Khushi is so occupied with Sheetal's thoughts that she is not realizing that she is hurting Arnav ' by refusing to go with him for dinner, by refusing to give him the time he needs. The bigger hurt ' SHE OPENS THE DNA REPORT!!

To me Sheetal's characterization is still not clear. She is here to prove Aarav is Arnav's son but that definitely is not the ultimate goal!! And its not clear yet if the ultimate goal is fruitful or devastating. ' Tomorrow is just first milestone of what Sheetal's wants to achieve. ' would leave it there!! I still have a feeling Aarav is partner in crime!! I HOPE I AM WRONG!!

REAL QUESTIONS -

The question is not IF ARNAV IS AARAV'S FATHER ' BECAUSE HE IS NOT - PERIOD!!

The question is not "WHY IS SHEETAL HERE" ' BECAUSE SHE IS HERE TO STRENGTH ARNAV KHUSHI'S RELATIONSHIP!!

The question is not "WILL ARNAV KHUSHI SEPARATE" ' BECAUSE ARNAV WILL NEVER LET KHUSHI GO.

The question is not "WILL ARNAV GET CLOSE TO SHEETAL" ' NOT EVEN IN SHEETAL'S DREAMS, KHUSHI'S DREAMS YES!! Arnav said today ' Soch Tha Hoon Tumhara Bhi Registry Karwa Doon, tumhara trademark tho banta hai, Poori Duniay mein Aapne type ki EK HI HO!!🤗

The REAL QUESTION HOW WILL AND HOW WELL ARNAV KHUSHI FIGHT THIS BATTLE? - Bring it on CVs...

If two stand shoulder to shoulder against the gods, happy together, the gods themselves are helpless against them while they stand so. ~ Maxwell Anderson.

PS:

Arnav's Dialogues about death ' I think CVs are setting stage for another "dimaag ka dahi" for FANDOM or for BARUN's absence.😉

Arnavji - aap fandom ki bhi registry karav dijiye.HAMARA BHI TRADEMARK BANTA HAI ..HUM BHI EK HI PIECE HAI DUNIYA MEIN🤣

TEAM IPKKND ' HEART FELT THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER FABULOUS EPISODE!!👏

BARUN - CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING ITA AWARD.👏

SANAYA - NO AWARD CAN REWARD THE TALENT YOU HAVE.🤗

NK ' ABB AAPKO BHAGWAN HI BACHAYE.

Edited by Prakal - 12 years ago
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Yesss...thank you! Smhow it feels like unless u see it too...jaise koi baat banti hi nai hai lol

Anjali is the one another person who trusts Arnav completely...w/o knowin the reason she helped Arnav tempt Khushi with food coz he dint believe in d ritual n dint wan Khushi to suffer hunger 4him. I think Anjali is gonna help Arnav in his need coz...khushi at the moment is not takin in Arnavs words. Also, mamiji n nk ka dialogue i thot u ver our fren n all...i think tat too will play out.
arnav was distracted wen sheetal called out n dint notice sheetal's act...khushi saw yet sheetal instead of checkin if shes being watched went ahead n broke her fast...she knew Arnav was distracted n wnt notice.
Scared the hell out me wen Arnav gifted khushi her co. Hes told her she can partner with ne1 she wants.

I agree...Sheetal provin to Arnav is gonna be the one to c. One more q the kid was asleep then did sheetal send him to arnav to distract him...while she plays wotever game she wants with khushi? I suppose so. In the precap khushi is d one makin deductions...jus like aloo kay pakorey. Will havta see how it plays out. Atleast progress hua...they hv started takin d story fwd frm sheetal revelations.

Shud i jus consider Raizadas unobservant all the time!!? They keep sayin Aarav is like Arnav...this time atleast nani saw khushi upset...hope she deduces smth outta it n atleast asks. Payal shud know better...KKGSR till date neva leaves her fav food half eaten. N Arnavji who was hell bent on feedin khushi is now distracted in a game. Neways the more Arnav gets involved better it is to end khushis doubts.

Thanks shalini 4 atleast sharin a short post :) like i said i get hunches n i as always love toread wot u havta say...majja comes :)
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Dear Shalini, great post, but hope it was longer... waiting for the big analysis in coming episodes.

Somehow, I always wanted that however this track goes, it should finally come to a point that Khushi will have to decide who's telling the truth when all the evidence points against Arnav... Like what happened after Arnav and Khushi returned home after kidnap - Arnav had to actually believe in the person that is his Khushi to make the decision to oust Shyaam, when all things were against Khushi... He did it becoz however convincing liar Shyaam was, something he told about Khushi didn't match with Arnav's mental picture of Khushi... and he chose to trust his own mental picture (finally) than what Shyaam is showing to him.

Just like that I want the same thing to happen here... Khushi knows Arnav than anyone else; however cunning Sheetal is, she doesn't know the depth of their connection. Up to now she has been playing on the usual insecurities any wife will have. What I want is this: Sheetal will go triumphantly convincing everyone that Arnav is the real father; she appears to be winning until the end, where she does a trivial mistake that alert only khushi, where her heart knows the true Arnav she has seen will never do that, SO she realizes sheetal is lying. Anyways CVs are in love with repeating plots between Arnav and Khushi, so this could actually happen.
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Doudt-Pls any one clear it...

Are DNA test & Paternity test diff,R they not same???
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I'm so glad you talked about the chess game! I was waiting for your take on it- favors, castling, checkmates...who's the king that needs protection? As the dominant figure in Aarav's life, could it be the one who's orchestrating this whole game, Sheetal? As suggested, the favor may have been a cover for distraction while Sheetal moves to strike against Khushi- the game checkmates when Khushi successfully falls in the trap hook, line and sinker. So it's really Khushi who lost...it did turn out to be a "kaarva chaat" after all- Sheetal deliberately forcing her rights on what rightfully belongs to Khushi, her pooja thaal that she used to break her own fast for her husband. Disgusting. But! The three games you mentioned where Arnav lost, very interesting!! I can only think of them as a unit: we win together, we lose together. Khushi losing her own battle may be what's reflected in Arnav losing these games.

NK's not so secret fast reflects his not so secret feelings towards Sheetal. Caught out by Anjali and Mamiji, he only enjoys the food tonight. Interesting comment he made to Khushi in the ME (in reference to the pakaudas she was serving everyone): Khushiji, I supported you so much...you should also support me as my friend. He leaves in a huff. With the game playing out as it is, it wouldn't surprise me that he's a little blind in his affections right now and may not support Khushi as wholeheartedly when matters of his own heart may make him think twice about everything. He has been an excellent friend to Khushi so far however, I would never doubt NK or his friendship.

These two lovebirds have repeatedly promised to never leave the other both before remarriage and since. Arnav talked about his lack of faith in these rituals in the ME: "one's longevity and quality of life cannot be based solely on observing fasts", Khushi promises that she will continuously observe fasts for his wellbeing and long life as his wife "hamesha" as she won the challenge, Arnav hands her the papers to the KKGSR company (his own demonstration of love against her observing the fast for him) a practical gift of making her financially independent should the need ever arise, Khushi's immediate reaction is to slap him for his "bakwaas". There is no such need as of yet...however, Sheetal's actions and Khushi's reactions could create that need if not caught out in time. Arnav has also reaffirmed his promise that he will be there to "hamesha sambhalo" her as well. Both Arnav and Khushi have really connected with Aarav (not Sheetal), both have protected him and fought for his rights in their own ways: Khushi fought against Aarav's kidnappers, Arnav fought with Sheetal to disclose Aarav's father's identity. With the DNA reports conveniently back in her hands, Khushi may choose to "fight" for Aarav's rights to a father- Arnav. There has been a disconnect in their communication for the past few days, a result of which is both of them losing. Let's see how they get back together.

Until your next post!

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Okay so two major points you've raised that I agree with:

1. Anjali would be Arnav's trusting buddy as she knows him best. In this case with Sheetal claiming Arnav to be the father, either Anjali or Akash would step and help gather counter information.

2. Great comparison of the chess moves to the current scenario. I am just a beginner in chess so all moves are kinda new to me. Regardless, the game itself was a symbolic fight that would ensue...Aarav (representing Sheetal since he really does seem innocent as any kid) hiding the name of the father and getting Arnav to be mistrusted by all (him losing).

Other points to note is that Sheetal may be mum about the report and change the topic as our dear CVs usually do...my feeling is that since Arnav had already stated to Khushi only that he is NOT Aarav's father this tussle will be between Sheetal and Khushi only (cold war!). Dunno how long this would go but eventually it will come out in front of family members. At first everyone will be shocked and may believe (DNA reports as evidence) except for Anjali/Akash. They'll prove Arnav's innocence.
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Originally posted by: dharave

I'm so glad you talked about the chess game! I was waiting for your take on it- favors, castling, checkmates...who's the king that needs protection? As the dominant figure in Aarav's life, could it be the one who's orchestrating this whole game, Sheetal? As suggested, the favor may have been a cover for distraction while Sheetal moves to strike against Khushi- the game checkmates when Khushi successfully falls in the trap hook, line and sinker. So it's really Khushi who lost...it did turn out to be a "kaarva chaat" after all- Sheetal deliberately forcing her rights on what rightfully belongs to Khushi, her pooja thaal that she used to break her own fast for her husband. Disgusting. But! The three games you mentioned where Arnav lost, very interesting!! I can only think of them as a unit: we win together, we lose together. Khushi losing her own battle may be what's reflected in Arnav losing these games.



Woah, another great analysis of the chess game! So Sheetal would be the King who Aarav is protecting and Arnav's loss really is Khushi not trusting him.
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Today, I am again in love with the character that captured my attention from Day 1, Arnav Singh Raizada...

For all those who claimed I'm biased against Arnav, I am not.

I wanted to see this guy.

The man in love: A man in love looks at his love and feels her pain like his own and tries to fix that. He doesn't ignore or belittle her belief or concern. Arnav realized that Khushi believes in rituals so whether he believes or not, it's important for her and that's good enough for him. He takes away her mind with his exclusive attention from the hunger pangs or the not-appearing-soon-enough moon. This is a man in love, not the man who belittles his wife's concern by shouting a vague term like dating and expect her to understand the connotation and have blind trust in him in spite of a walking, talking proof.

The understanding man: Arnav realized that Khushi needs her financial stability to feel his equal. It's a big thing for homemakers. When they are solely dependent on their husband for every single thing, unless they are like Anjali and doesn't care, takes a toll on their self-confidence and Khushi was always a very independent woman.

The proud man: Arnav may have ridiculed Khushi's million business ideas in the past, but he appreciates and proud of his wife's entrepreneurial skills and never give up spirit. He gave his Di a bunch of credit cards, yet gave his wife a company of her own to run.
A business man like Arnav who understands the value of money because he had worked hard for it, won't have ever given Khushi her own business unless he trusted her ability. He is not a man who sinks money into useless ventures.
On the other hand, that might be an indication of a possible separation to come when Khushi becomes independent to support herself.

Now let's talk about Khushi, the gullible soul.

Khushi was always gullible enough to believe everyone. Unfortunately no amount of hard knocks has taught her otherwise.

1. Khushi sees Sheetal hanging around the poolside and helpfully points out her own thali. I'd have pointed out mamiji's thali just to see what Sheetal was upto.

2. She doesn't completely trust her. Hence, she took all the channis (the round things with holes) with her, so Sheetal can't have them. But left the water pot there. I'd have taken my thaali and let other's handle theirs. Sheetal is threat to my marriage. She is no threat to anyone else.

3. Khushi sees what Sheetal did. Yet, stood there thinking to herself. I'd have walked up to her and ask her what the hell she is doing touching my thaali which I saw with my own eyes. Sheetal can deny fasting all she wants, but she won't be able to deny what I saw with my own eyes and the family will (hopefully) will believe their bahu more than a guest. And I'd have a legitimate reason to be upset regardless whether she kept fast or not because the thaali of karva chauth is sacred to every wife.

4. Hari Prakash gets Khushi the DNA report in her name. Since when an official report comes unsealed? Mind you, this is the same dumb idiot who took Shyam exchanged, Shashi's pink medicine with Dadi's brown ones without realizing the difference in colour, shape and size.
Also, this is the same guy who let Shyam's camera people in to fit security cameras everywhere.
Funny, no one, not even Arnav investigated how the hell Shyam fitted those cameras. How the hell this huge security breach happened. But then, the people in RM will never learn no matter how many Sheetal or Shyam come in their life. Gullibility runs in the family and it got enhanced by Khushi's presence.

5. Sheetal said to everyone in dining table that Aarav went to sleep. But the moment Khushi and Arnav are alone in their room, Aarav arrives in his regular clothes and asks "a favour" with no sign of sleepiness.
Not to mention, the so-called concerned mother doesn't even realize that her son, who sleeps in the same bed as her is not in bed. Another lie that could have been caught red-handed.
I'd ask Sheetal in front of the family that you said Aarav was in bed. Then why is he up so late? Doesn't he have school tomorrow?

Now let's move on to Sheetal...

Like I said the very least she is an obsessed character, the most she is a conniving witch. So please don't tell me that she is a poor and desperate mother because if she was indeed a positive character, then

1. She would leave RM the moment she realized Khushi was up to no good and trying to find out Aarav's father.

and

2. Realize that now that Arnav is married, she has no right to keep the vrat. If just by having a child gives you a right to maintain a vrat, then every divorced/single mother would keep fast for their ex which is stupid excuse. It's not like she is adding additional years to Arnav's lifeline by keeping extra vrat on top of Khushi.


So this woman is up to no good. And the sooner Arnav and Khushi realize that the better for their marriage.


Now let's move on to the family.

The family hears Sheetal telling them Aarav is in bed, but him playing chess so late at night with Arnav doesn't surprise them or make them think why this 5 year old is up past his bedtime and where the hell is the mother?

Aakash and Payal are again back playing their favourite record of let's-compare-another-woman's-child-with-my-married-bhai-in-front-of-his-wife... Payal so conveniently forgot how tensed she was to hear about Aakash's "friend" bubbly before she arrived even though she was not his ex and how Khushi understood her concern. Today, she is very sweetly returning the favour by comparing another woman's child with her own sister's husband.

Well, like I said, if insensitivity could be sold, RM would make a fortune...

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Another insightful post.you know after watching today epi I was thinking thatthey showed in ME that Nk and mami supported khushi during fast.Anjali was with Arnav. So will they team up as Arnav,Anjali, Akash and may be Payal on one side.And Khushi, nk and mami on the other. BUT later they realized that Arnav is right and khushi will be left alone. nani might be like us confused wheather to trust chote or not.Well I do trust him.

When Arnav did not trust khushi both of them did not realize their feelings for eachother.It was just about to start.But now they have come a long way in their relationship.If khushi will not trust Aranv now than it will hurt him more.
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