Barun vs Daljeet a Debate : Note pg 6;43;47, 48 - Page 2

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Posted: 12 years ago
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There is no need for such a topic. It was never Barun vs Daljeeth. Both hav got bashed dearly for trying things that both of them hav a right to do.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I guess Barun's decision to take fwd his career was taken at a wrong time... There's nothing wrong in thinking abt our career, our progress but one also has to see wat consequences it may have further...

The CVs had etched out a perfect track... Arnav misunderstands Khushi, then Shyam's ugly truth is revealed, Arnav realizes his mistake, but till then contract is over, Khushi leaves and hence the big "Redemption" and the wooing part...

Everything would have went perfectly well for another 3-4 months, but due to Barun's career move, the entire track had to be resketched to include the kidnapping track which was a very bad move...

The viewers were expecting 11 days of Barun's abscense from show, but it extended to 11-28-45 days and the track was stretched like anything... Till then already half of the janta had lost the interest...

But when barun came back, ppl were expecting redemption which they never got, instead v got Didi ki Saut which was the result of Daljeet's negotiations... which further degraded the TRP's and also lost some more viewers...

But the main thing was that the plot went haywire...

So sadly i think both Barun and Daljeet's decisions at some point were responsible for the state in which IPK is in today...
Edited by edbelljack - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutebarun

There is no need for such a topic. It was never Barun vs Daljeeth. Both hav got bashed dearly for trying things that both of them hav a right to do.

When MODs are ok then what is the problem here???

They are right for personal gains but there are viewers too which get affected...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Actually the success of a show mainly lies with the PH as they hold the reins of the show. There are so many tele actors pursuing films and the PH fully supports them. One example is Ram Kapoor and another is Ahem from Sathiya. The PH lacks in ideas and comes up with weak tracks like the Bubbly track, Masala mama and even could not develop the Payash track. EVen if DB negotiated, they could have given a decent track if they wanted to. They lacked in ideas and the show suffered big time. One cannot blame a bad story line on the actors. When you don't have a parallel successful track it is disastrous for any show. Awesome Arshi track only can't carry the show on its shoulders all the time. This has been the weak point of IPK. It is solely the responsibility of the makers to create a strong story and no actor can be blamed for this.
Edited by sheanuzz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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You make a very valid point because a show requires a careful balance of all things.


However, beyond these two factors, for me it is the cvs whose lack of vision and story and planning i fully and wholly responsible for the state of the show.

After all neither BS nor DB would have wanted to move on should the story have been powerful enough.

I don't blame either actors, for while DB's vanity might have prompted the threat to quit, BS has always maintained it is the script and the story that are the linchpins that' hold a show, both have demanded a proper story albeit in their own ways.


I hold the CVs and the PH totally for the destroying this show that we loved so much.
Edited by Japonica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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For me neither Barun nor Daljeet were wrong...
We have full right to grow in our career and think about our future...an actor can work and gain fame only when the age permits..
PH and Cv's are to be blamed here...
When Daljeet wanted a better role there were many ways to give her a good role but they chose the pathetic DKS track..

Barun most definitely must have asked PH before signing a movie...if Ph had any doubts they could have stopped him...
But no they gave him a leave and stretched the kidnapping track..there were many tracks which could be used during his absence...also Barun was available whenever asked for shooting...
If he had left the show without any prior notice like an other actor then Barun could be blamed...
Also the much demanded redemption track could have been carried out after Barun returned but nope PH and cv's created a mess here tooo..
Also trp's had increased when Barun was back but cv's and scriptwriters failed to sustain those ratiings...
Also now leaking the news about Barun thinking to quit the serial is a pathetic move by PH

So Barun and Daljeet are no way wrong in wantinng a career growth..
Edited by Swati_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Japonica



After all neither BS nor DB would have wanted to move on should the story have been powerful enough.



I would differ with your opinion on this. DB was a PH failure agreed but BS wasn't. Script was at its almost best - even though it was forced marriage track over then. Lots of fans still liked watching the forced marriage phase, I personally liked the track too.

BS wanted to pursue his career goal of being an Movie Actor, PH or the CV's are not to be blamed for his move. CV's have to be criticized for the lack of creativity during BS's absence, if they utilized the resources well, TRP's might haven't taken such a big dip.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post, Harshu. Good luck with trying to make everyone follow the rules.. 😆 People tend to get very emotional when it comes to comparing Barun/Arnav to anyone!

I agree with DKS completely.. and partly with Aisha.

If I blame someone, it would be the PH and the CVs and most, the people who give spoilers!

Let's look at Barun's leave.
The spoiler came out saying Barun is leaving.. people went crazy. I always wondered why? And then it became worse.. first news was 11 days.. then what 22.. 40.. 45.. and fans went crazy!
Next PH .. who gives an actor so much priority? You could have asked him to choose, knowing that his popularity was from your show and that he would not survive on his own outside the show. If you had done that, Barun would have reconsidered .. maybe.. and you could have carried out your original track.
Next the CVs.. ok, the PH allowed Barun at 45 day leave. I actually liked the kidnapping, because of how they showed a strong Khushi and Khushi-Mami bonding. But apart from that the 45 day leave ruined it, because it seemed silly that Arnav never even once tried to escape until once Barun's leave was almost over. That ruined his character. The kidnapping also ruined Shyam's character. It made me wonder whether he wanted money more or Khushi. It seemed to me that he never even wanted Khushi, because he left her to die .. again a very weird twist to his character. The fact that he suddenly became so powerful, and Arnav never even noticed so much money being taken from his Di's account etc etc. To me, Shyam was ruined too during the kidnapping track. So that was the other thing, CVs screw up characters when they diverted from the story line. They are not, you see, adaptable!

Now.. Daljeet's negotiation. Again the spoilers came first.. and then the interview, which made everyone hate her.. and people went crazy!

I think she had a right to negotiate, because if you look at the write up about the show. It says bro-sis relationship plays a big part in the story. So yes, I think she had a reason to ask for a better role. But the CVs screwed it up here. They could have given her a good role, by showing her as a strong character, showing her as turning against Arnav.. so many good roles that she could have pulled it off.. But no, they had to show her as a bechari because in SP's world, women are becharis! That ruined the whole thing.. because there was rona dhona. There is a reaosn I stopped watching hindi shows, that's coz of such crap. I have enough pain in my life, I cry a lot, why would I want to see someone else cry? I stopped watching..

And worse, to give Anjali the limelight.. they started showing Arnav care more about his Di than the woman who just saved his life by risking her own. No repentance, no guilt about anything he did in the past few months. That ruined him for me .. some CV decided that the guy never needs to repent.. since then started the downfall of both Arnav and Khushi's character.. The CVs lost the story immediately after hte kidnapping. If they weren't so creative, the PH should have hired better CVs.. or not changed from the original track at all.

The PH's motto of making the actor the God is wrong. No profession, do you ever let the employee seem that the workplace will be nothing without him! Then the employee will try and sit on your head.. that's what happened with these two actors! Yes fans would go crazy, but if you have a good storyline and replace them with brilliant actors, they will cry for a while. .some might leave.. but the ones who really like the story will still watch.

As for the actors, I know people will hate me for this.. but I think I like Daljeet more now.. 'coz she never looked bored.. or just read off the script!
Edited by boreddamsel - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It's hands down Barun's movie leave. It was like the first push in the dominose effect. The pack of cards started falling at an exponential rate, if you know what I mean. His leave unfortunately had the maximum impact on the show. Ofcourse Daljeet's negotiations did effect, but by that time, things that had to happen had already happened and the show had lost it's allure as well as it's focus.
So I'd say Barun's movie leave changed the show's course for the worse.
Not critisizing barun or Daljeet here. Im just stating facts and what happened to the progression of the show after their respective decissions.
(How PH could have handled them is a different issue)
PS- I for one believes PH handled Barun's movie leave quite well. Not so much on Daljeet's negotiations. But that's something we need to discuss under a different topic.
Edited by CDlove - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I seriously dont see a point in comparison here- BS vs Daljeet as you title states..as both actors had different issues with PH. Every actor has right to take his career decision and this is not first time actor leaves for movie in between a show.And I dont think ppl here encouraged his movie also as daljeet was bashed so was he - even his movie costars and PH of his movie were bashed like hell ...as far as story is concerned- I think they cud have planned it better..and I dont think apart from some episodes..they did bad job..we got some amazing scenes during that period...

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