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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: RickyBahl

i has been writing film reviews for magazine before


and for me criticism of film was not about bashing a actor or director.
Being a film critic, no one used the term bashing to me atleast.

it is only in this forum that i have experienced this.
thankgod its not same else where
or for giving 1 star to a ramgopal varma film, ppl wud hav said i was bashing the director.
Even i was not favourable to raone. But does that become i am bashing SRK?? never

iam sorry ,
some IndiaForum TM's need to wakeup n smell the cofee
or else i will be compelled to write a truly bashing article on such obnoxious thought. so that they know what is bashing actually.


Very well said, sometimes I feel people have the wrong concept on what an open Forum represents, it is a place where one is free to express their opinion, on this Forum it is IPKKND, restricting it sometimes limits us to only one track minded topics, sometimes from an episode we can expand on so many social issues, it can help when the conversation is allowed to flow freely, it is so disrespectful to start a conversation and have the Topic closed before we have a chance to make a difference when it is termed as bashing, it is so refreshing to have this conversation going and your post is adding to it in an intelligent and informative way. Thank you and let us hope we can all feel free to express ourselves even when we disagree in a respectful manner.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: ItIsMyLife

I don't get one thing.Is IPKKND forum a Fan Club?Why can't we voice our opinion if we don't like a thing?99 people can like an episode and 1 can not like it.But why can't the one voice his/her displeasure?


Never let anything or anyone stop you from voicing your opinion even it is the only one that differs from others, it is the only way you can be heard, once it is done respecting others, let your voice be heard, what you have to say is equally important never let anyone limit you even if you have to stand alone.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: sammi5


Very well said, sometimes I feel people have the wrong concept on what an open Forum represents, it is a place where one is free to express their opinion, on this Forum it is IPKKND, restricting it sometimes limits us to only one track minded topics, sometimes from an episode we can expand on so many social issues, it can help when the conversation is allowed to flow freely, it is so disrespectful to start a conversation and have the Topic closed before we have a chance to make a difference when it is termed as bashing, it is so refreshing to have this conversation going and your post is adding to it in an intelligent and informative way. Thank you and let us hope we can all feel free to express ourselves even when we disagree in a respectful manner.


thanks a lot dear for the awesome feedback.
The worst part is some TM's fear of expressing some constructive posts... in fear of being bullied in the comments section later. I want to tell those TM's dont be afraid. If they have started an Internet war then u shud be prepared to give them befitting replies too. I dont care what ppl bash me in comments.Even if there is good episode at night i have come up with criticism posts out in the open without any consideration. I dont see what is the mood in forum. Neither i change my sides seeing how otheres are replying. One shud make his/her judgement herself/Himself. There are certain TM's i dont wanna name who dance according to others tune and dont use their own judgement in commenting a post. Im not in that zone atleast. Hell with those Tm's . Its my wish .i can express my views about the show as i like but i keep the basic codes in mind like not abusing a person from my side first atleast.
Its just a interaction forum not an answer sheet of exam hall that has to be scrutinised .

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Posted: 13 years ago
#54
Well needed post!
I agree that this is a forum that should be able to reach on various topics, and yes this is IPKKND area and the mods feel that at times that people stray off topic and close a thread, but that is rude.

As long as there are no threats to others, this is a forum to reach out and discuss topics that spin off from the show itself.

It is the right of a person to express ones feelings, if others choose to share in that opinion great, if not, then just ignore and go on to another topic, or express your thoughts.

Discussions are healthy and even opposing sides learn from each other.

Just my thoughts...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I wish people would try to understand the difference between the two words before they start arguing all guns blazing. We on this forum are always at each other's throats.

Hadn't we loved the show so much or hadn't we loved Arnav and Khushi or Barun and Sanaya so much we wouldn't even have bothered about them. Lets face it, we all are busy with our lives. Yet because we love the show so much we are here. And since we love the show so much, we can't accept mediocrity.
Edited by bong.girl - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#56
I have written this in another post so copying and pasting some of the parts here.
If constructive criticism cannot be taken in the proper manner and we are being forced to restrain ourselves from voicing our opinions, I think the forum is no longer a place where we can freely share our views.
Negative criticism is never pleasant. It doesn't come wrapped in wreaths of flowers with pretty bows hanging from the sides. It's harsh and that's how reality works.
Here's a few examples of movie reviews which are nasty to say the least.
Actor, Pearl Harbor (2001)
Ben Affleck, Josh Hartnett and Kate Beckinsale give performances of such somnambulist awfulness that the three of them achieve an almost zen-like state of woodenness. This is bad acting above and beyond the call of duty; this is Purple Heart bad acting. (Peter Bradshaw, Guardian)
Affleck, called upon to play someone stupider than himself, goes even deader behind the eyes than usual, and when emoting resorts to the kind of facial spasms that won him jeers of joyous derision at screenings of Pearl Harbour.
(Chris Tookey, Daily Mail)
Ben Affleck's goose is cooked with Surviving Christmas, a movie that makes Gigli look like one of the crowning moments in his career.
(Jami Bernard, New York Daily News)
Jennifer Aniston
Actress, Picture Perfect (1997)
Friends star Aniston will need all the friends she can muster when this grisly mess haunts her on late night TV where it deserves to be missed' Rock Hudson and Doris Day used to do this kind of fluffy romantic comedy fluff in their sleep. Aniston and Mohr do it badly, in other people's sleep.
(Alan Frank, Video Home Entertainment)
Christian Bale
Actor, Terminator: Salvation (2009)
Bale's belligerent, resentful facial expression is that of a stunned ox, or a vexed moose, or a rhino that thinks it's overheard someone calling its mum a sl*g.
(Peter Bradshaw, Guardian)
Jennifer Lopez
After four unsuccessful previous nominations for a Razzie, J-Lo won the 2003 worst actress award for Gigli. Her performance in this film makes her an early front-runner for 2005.
(Chris Tookey, Daily Mail)
This is just a taste of how criticism works in the real world.
When someone say anything remotely close to negative criticism, the post is termed bashing.
What amazes me is how our displeasure cannot be shown if the actor has not groomed properly or his/her expressions were not up to mark or his/her PR skills need some boosting etc when thousand posts that scutinizes Barun's pysical aspects in a very scandalizing and degrading manner can be hailed and deemed the best post in the forum.
Had a man centric forum did the very same to Sanaya and her bodily attributes, they would have been cursed to oblivion.
There are double standards in this forum. Enugh said.
People who cannot take a few negative points regarding their favourit actor/ show reports the post without thinking much becuase they simply cant bear to hear anything negative about them.
But the forum moderators need to be more vigilant when they deal with these report posts because just because some people cannot take a point of view, it's not bashing.
Edited by CDlove - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#57
Nisha dear, fab post👏
I simply want to summarize your post with a simple example.
If a kid is going astray and say he had stolen something, what a responsible mother does? Will she ignore it or praise it saying you have done a commendable job? Or will she try to correct him, make him understand what he did is wrong. Sometimes kids will be stubborn and dont want to understand things, she will be lil harsh but it doesnt mean she doesnt like her kid?At the end of the day its to inculcate some good manners and make him a responsible citizen.
I think I put across my thoughts clearly.😊


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Posted: 13 years ago
#58
Thanks for the post.
This is truth with the world today.
Criticism is a scary word for many of us.
I agree no one would like to hear negative feedback. We all humans thrive on compliments. Oh.. how I looked forward like a kid when all my hardwork gets a small smile/nod/mention from my seniors during my initial years at my office. It definitely feels good. When we get reprimended for shoddy work it definitely feels like death. I myself have spent days brooding after such an incident though it helped me in doing well later.
But that is what is criticism. If you cannot take negative then you should not except positive too.
I feel most in the creative world are very passionate about their work. I am sure the members of the entertainment industry themselves will not want their fans to view them just as eye candy. Rather they would like their fans to share with them all good and bad so that they can actually become the best in the industry. A true fan should do that. I am sure SARUN too are two responsible mature actors who look forward to all types of critics with open heart. This should hold true for anyone in the ipkknd team including the CVs to makeup man. When I give my view it is because I care for the future of the show.. if I didnt care I will let it degrade and skip to another channel.
We as their audience need to understand that and help our favorites to excel by giving pos and neg feedback whenever it is apt.
Edited by ipkkndfan30 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: Harshitha

In this forum the major problem is of being biased half the time.


The minute few members are not liking the TM's views they say you are spreading negativity.
If we agree with the TM they immediately say lovely thread.
Members needs to differentiate between reality & fiction in all departments not just the dushman scenes even the romantic scenes & learn to respect other views even if it goes against your self.
learn to listen to other story also & dont start offensive threads titles.

I need to think twice before writing pata chala thread is closed for supposed "bashing"

Critics & bash 2 words quite popular in this forum but very wrongly used. Its called bashing for Barun/ASR & criticizing Sanaya/Khushi. I wonder why the difference is being maintained.

Prime example of all this is Redux thread their first thread first page is good analysis infact quite good baki pages complete bashing of Khushi & Sanaya - i still wonder why ?? - i have read random pages before so i know.

Worst part of all this is people take out their fictional anger on real people - come one that is really too much.


Harshita, no offense to anyone, the worst part is if we say episode was not good coz of prolonged Mr and Mrs Snake scenes, they jump to conclusion that we didnt like it coz Arnav was not present. We have endured 1 to 1.5 month of arnavless episodes. Its not about Arnav for god's sake, they can give equal weightage to all actors. They could have shown GH scenes, Payash scenes even they can help in story telling
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Posted: 13 years ago
#60
😆thought you only made fun posts ..."inna serious post"😆...
actually since I have rejoined the IF ...I've realized ke there seems to be a big dicussion between how the show should be, its going downhill and so on...and the most hilarious one I came across was when velangini (i can never forget this ID... )..

I asked why everyone says "dekhan hai dekho" and found out that the writer of the show called fans hormonal or something🤣that just cracked me up ya, that is hilarious... ahahahahaha..its true perhaps...ahahahahaha...this was funny...now in all seriousness...

you make good points Nish but I do switch channels quite happily when I watch TV...I've come to realize "paise se sab kuch nahin par bahut kuch move hota hai"... not liking the series...dont watch that episode... it sounds harsh but seriously a lot of us (not me anymore cannot be in this list) watch because we love the show...do these analyses (I often wonder if people get paid for this I mean they are long long essays yaa...I cant even read them..tried but gave up)...point , critique...but I think an effective way of communicating you didnt like something (actually anything not a show...anything at all product...service) dont voice your opinion..actually do the action... dont watch...not about this series its much better...but there is some seriously wrong ridiculous stuff on Indian TV that everyone watches. everytime I visit India I am a little shocked...dont watch that stuff. Jab jeb tak baat aayegi tab samjhne waale samajh jaate hain... most fundamental rule or economics "maximise profits"...its business (and please dont view this as a bad word...its important for business to be succesful...in fact Im reasearching into the content aspect of Indian TV "kinna paisa dalo to kinna paisa milega 😆" which is my interest in IF and all)...

And if they are asking for opinion "what would you like to watch"...then give it...this is what we liked and what we dont...I mean apna time itna saara kyon waste karna over a TV show...enjoy it...dont get attached to it...

my style of watching anything not just a TV series (which is rare as I dont have TV anymore) or movies (Bollywood/Hollywood whichever...) is the remote, my attention span is also quite limited. I have seen all of 3 movies in the theatre in the last 10 years. My rule is for me simply try to stay away from watching sad movies or sad stories...for my personality they tend to take over...even SMJ when I watched recently (waited for the show to start for months and then watched, contributed...after some shows I stopped because I realize I dont need to watch...if I want to do something I just can ..well this is tangential but...)


rambled enough for a saturday...but...inna serious...
Edited by IFID - 13 years ago

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