Constructive criticism is not BASHING..!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Let's face it. Criticism has become a dirty word.


Pick up any thesaurus and you'll find "criticism" in the company of "nit-picking, objection, disapproval, and objection."


The truth is criticism doesn't have to be a dirty word.


In a broader context, criticism is an assessment, review or observation that can even be in the form of appreciation.

Nobody seems to ever talk about that one: When the criticism is good, we don't call it criticism, we call it approval. We call it praise. We call it being appreciated.

And who doesn't enjoy sincere appreciation for their work?

When someone invites our criticism, we have the opportunity to help that person by giving our perspective or insight into the situation.


For example, say someone asks us to check out an article they've written to get our opinion. Chances are the person really wants to know what we think so that they can make it the best it can be.

Our objective reading of the article can give the person valuable insight into how they can improve the article. If they weigh the importance or usefulness of the criticism, they can rewrite or revise the article to make it better

Thus, the writer and article become more valuable due to the constructive criticism.


Here's the real kicker: different people have different perspectives and knowledge about the way the world works. Each person brings a unique perspective to the table. If we listen and try to understand their perspective, we can apply that perspective to our work to make it better.

Think about it. Say someone wants to improve the design on their website. Who could provide beneficial criticism? Web designers? Regular readers? Casual readers?

Everyone provides a unique perspective.


If we're lucky enough to have really cool friends that reciprocate coolness, they will provide their valuable perspective to us.

Let's say that we help our friend out by reviewing his article and improving the spelling and grammar so people can read it easier.

He says, "Wow, that sure is swell. I can't believe I have such knowledgeable and cool friends willing to help me."

So when we want to make sure one of our articles is near perfect, we can send it on to our friend and ask him for his honest opinion.

More than likely, he'll return the favor to help us out.


As Jim Rohn said, "Giving is better than receiving because giving starts the receiving process."

If we give our valuable perspective, others might be inclined to return the favor.

Constructive criticism is different in that we only give it when we're invited to give it. We give constructive criticism to people that we know and trust, and the people we are criticizing know our true intentions. We present constructive criticism as a discussion, and that our viewpoint is only one perspective and isn't necessarily fact.


So last but not the least, it is possible to learn to accept constructive criticism in the spirit that was intended.


So the people who give constructive criticism are not BASHERS.


We all are here because we love IPKKND.

We all are here because we love ARSHI/SARUN.


If something is not right, it is simply not.

PERIOD.

Edited by Ni1234 - 13 years ago

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velangini thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nish

awesome post babes👍🏼

you nailed it

why should people be called bashers just because they don't like what you like


here is what wikipedia has to say about the word criticism and bashing


Criticism is the practice of judging the merits and faults of something or someone in an intelligible (or articulate) way.

  • The judger is called "the critic".
  • To engage in criticism is "to criticize".
  • One specific item of criticism is called "a criticism".

This article provides information only about basic kinds of criticism, which are used generally by almost everybody at one time or another (for more specific types or areas of criticism, see the list at the bottom of this page, the (incomplete) category list for "criticism", Varieties of criticism and the criticism of (disambiguation) page).

Criticism can be:

  • directed toward a person or an animal; at a group, authority or organization; at a specific behaviour; or at an object of some kind (an idea, a relationship, a condition, a process, or a thing).
  • personal (delivered directly from one person to another, in a personal capacity), or impersonal (expressing the view of an organization, and not aimed at anyone personally).
  • highly specific and detailed, or very abstract and general.
  • verbal (expressed in language) or non-verbal (expressed symbolically, or expressed through an action or a way of behaving).
  • explicit (the criticism is clearly stated) or implicit (a criticism is implied by what is being said, but it is not stated openly).
  • the result of critical thinking[1] or spontaneous impulse.

To criticize does not necessarily imply "to find fault", but the word is often taken to mean the simple expression of an objection against prejudice, or a disapproval. Often criticism involves active disagreement, but it may only mean "taking sides". It could just be an exploration of the different sides of an issue. Fighting is not necessarily involved.

Criticism is often presented as something unpleasant, but it need not be. It could be friendly criticism, amicably discussed, and some people find great pleasure in criticism ("keeping people sharp", "providing the critical edge"). The Pulitzer Prize for Criticism has been presented since 1970 to a newspaper writer who has demonstrated 'distinguished criticism'.

Another meaning of criticism is the study, evaluation, and interpretation of literature, artwork, film, and social trends (see the article links below). The goal of this type of criticism is to understand the possible meanings of cultural phenomena, and the context in which they take shape. In so doing, the attempt is often made to evaluate how cultural productions relate to other cultural productions, and what their place is within a particular genre, or a particular cultural tradition.

Criticism as an evaluative or corrective exercise can occur in any area of human life. Criticism can therefore take many different forms. How exactly people go about criticizing, can vary a great deal. In specific areas of human endeavour, the form of criticism can be highly specialized and technical; it often requires professional knowledge to understand the criticism.


Bashing is a harsh, gratuitous, prejudicial attack on a person, group or subject. Literally, bashing is a term meaning to hit or assault, but when it is used as a suffix, or in conjunction with a noun indicating the subject being attacked, it is normally used to imply that the act is motivated by bigotry.[citation needed] The term is also used metaphorically, to describe verbal or critical assaults. Topics which attract bashing tend to be highly partisan and personally sensitive topics for the bashers, the victims or both. Common areas include religion, nationality, sexuality and politics.

Physical bashing is differentiated from regular assault because it is a motivated assault, which may be considered a hate crime. In relation to non-physical bashing, the term is used to imply that a verbal or critical attack is similarly unacceptable and similarly prejudicial. Use of the term in this manner is an abusive ad hominem action, used to denounce the attack and admonish the attackers by comparing them to perpetrators of physical bashing.

Karen Franklin, in her paper "Psychosocial motivations of hate crimes perpetrators" identifies the following motivations for bashing: socially instilled prejudice or partisan conflict; the perception that the bashing subject is in some way contrary to, or in offense to, an underlying ideology; group or peer influence.[citation needed]



need i say more

simply beacause we don't approve doesn't mean we hate it

accept it or not,criticism is the the only way to bring out the best


different people have different perspectives

are the fingers of one hand look same.no right

why shouldn't there be difference of opinion


people who can't understand the difference between words can never

have the right to point fingers at the people who understand it





Edited by velangini - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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In this forum the major problem is of being biased half the time.

The minute few members are not liking the TM's views they say you are spreading negativity.
If we agree with the TM they immediately say lovely thread.
Members needs to differentiate between reality & fiction in all departments not just the dushman scenes even the romantic scenes & learn to respect other views even if it goes against your self.
learn to listen to other story also & dont start offensive threads titles.

I need to think twice before writing pata chala thread is closed for supposed "bashing"

Critics & bash 2 words quite popular in this forum but very wrongly used. Its called bashing for Barun/ASR & criticizing Sanaya/Khushi. I wonder why the difference is being maintained.

Prime example of all this is Redux thread their first thread first page is good analysis infact quite good baki pages complete bashing of Khushi & Sanaya - i still wonder why ?? - i have read random pages before so i know.

Worst part of all this is people take out their fictional anger on real people - come one that is really too much.

Edited by Harshitha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey in this forum its considered constructive criticism only if its about sanaya which includes her acting and even her characterand then gul khan,arshad khan,akshay dogra,abhaas,daljeet,karan,mamiji,dadiji...etc...
But the moment u criticise anything about BARUN SOBTI it becomes BASHING,u cant even criticise the fictional character ASR,coz they cant ever go wrong or they hv nothing to improve...
I'll give u an e.g. Digs at sanaya's acting,body lang, alws goes on in the maha critics thread ''IPK-REDUX''in the name of constructive criticism...my point is ppl continuosly pick at sanaya and the whole forum enjoins it...i really wonder if the same digs were being made abt their ultimate,would they b so cool abt it...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As a free person i am entitled to my opinion and I do not shun away from stating the obvious.
If stating the obvious means bashing then call me a Basher.
I don't give a rat's ass.
I cant be blind to any one's faults.
I love IPKKND and Sarun.
I watch this show because I fell in love with it and we discuss about this show because we all are attached to it some way or the other.
Movies are made, critics comment and some are even paid to comment , so does that mean it is bashing.
Should actors stop making movies because if they will make movies and if their work is not liked by the critics then they will be bashed?
Do they care?
They really dont, They still make movies.
If a person agrees or disagrees with a certain character portrayal that does not mean that a person is bashing.
There has been a major discussion over a character in the show for the last 3 days and we have many posts either defending the character or so called "bashing " the character.
This is a forum meant for discussion and all the characters in the TV show are fictional.
I fail to understand why crtical comment on a character is always called bashing.
Feel free to call me a basher if you want but I refuse to be blind and not see what is right there staring back at me .
As my dear friend GH says -Satyamev Jayate .


Edited by kookie2020 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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yeh kya keh diya nisha😃
ths itself will be called bashing🤣
telling truth is bashing
stating facts is bashing
saying what is wrong is bashing
telling something contradictory to popular opinion is bashing...
bashing is the most bashed word here
Edited by rima - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I would gladly punch the person who set the trend of the word "bashing" on IF. What is the definition of "bashing"?! Saying that the show 'sucks' without elaborating on why is bashing. That needs to stop. But if it is making a post and demanding a redemption track with giving out reasons on why then it is called constructive critisism. So clearly those who label critizicers as "bashers" do not know the deifnition of the word. I cannot see any other reason why people would use the word "bashing".


Moreover just sitting back with the hope that something will change or false praise will not make the things any better. If we give the CVs a genuine feedback they can try to improve the show. Let us just take the example you mentioned. If I think that the website of my friend sucks but I say "Oh it is wonderful" it won't help my friend. Sure it may boost his ego *ahem G ahem H* but at the end my friend will be at loss because people might just hit the "back" button because the website is boring. So my dear members of IF genuine feedback is important because in our case the 'friend' are the CVs, the 'website' is the show and the people who hit the back button is the TRP audience who hit the remote to change the channel.


I beg the members on IF to think twice before using the word "bashing". Because at the end of the day we love the show too. Proof: We're on IF and that tells a lot ;)

Edited by loveydovey - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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to say the truth and reality is bashing here .

if we point out some thing which we didnot like is know as bashing . even the members agree they will say we are negative .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i has been writing film reviews for magazine before

and for me criticism of film was not about bashing a actor or director.
Being a film critic, no one used the term bashing to me atleast.

it is only in this forum that i have experienced this.
thankgod its not same else where
or for giving 1 star to a ramgopal varma film, ppl wud hav said i was bashing the director.
Even i was not favourable to raone. But does that become i am bashing SRK?? never

iam sorry ,
some IndiaForum TM's need to wakeup n smell the cofee
or else i will be compelled to write a truly bashing article on such obnoxious thought. so that they know what is bashing actually.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i m coming to do bashing...🤣🤣 res..

Edited..
Nish, u pointed out total issue so orderly...its a tough subject to discuss at least for me.😆 I m just trying to give my pov..as an example i m choosing my favorite serial ipk..

Look, i m a massive fan of BS n SI..but its not meant that i will like their gesture of acting, their out fit, their expressions of every episode..they r also human hence, for pressure of hectic schedule or for personal matter sometimes they also can't delivery their whole skill on screen..now, if i make a post to express my view that the scene of today's episode could be perfect if they did like this or something..or if i say BS,SI,DB, or AM should concern on this matter(guess anything) when they r acting..the how can it be a bashing!! I think people should appreciate with me..n appreciate means not they must have to be unanimous with me..its meant also to point out my wrong if i m!! n to me this is the meaning of constructive criticism...n viewers sensible criticism can help to an actor doing her/his real portraying.

Mutually, viewers r the root of any shows..n they have full freedom to criticize about story lines or on making layman of any scene...n this constructive criticism helps to overcome them from previous fault..but sometimes the matter would be woeful when they think criticism as sarcasm.. n we already saw it eventually, we got "dhek nae hai tho dhek ho"...

Arre, viewers r the purchaser of a show n cvs r seller if sellers would be ruthless on purchasers then why they purchase their goods!!


Edited by ogive_nab - 13 years ago

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