Sushpective: In Defense of Anjali...EDITED - Page 5

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Posted: 13 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: hade

If she thinks properly, she can put things together and prove Shyam to be wrong.

That is, If she has a brain! 🤔
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42
Because the previous post was getting long, I'm asking all important questions here.

Whose house is is?

Who is the head of the house?

Where does that leave dadi in the hierarchy?

If its nani's house, why is dadi bossing around Mami?

Why does she think it's ok to bring damadji back to rm? Because its either her house or nani's or asr?

What is the scale of delusionality for dadi and anjali and Shyam individually? When they join forces, what happens, does evil add up or does the inherent goodness between them balance out the evilness?

Why doesnt Anjali insist her husband to take her with him?

Why is she taking so many pills?

Is khushi inside anjalis pink bubble? If so, how can shyam and khushi coexist withouth breaking that bubble? If not, how can Anjali be genuinely happy about this remarriage?

How did Shyam and khushi pick the same venue for their dates? Will asr be paying for both dates?

Why doesn't rm have better security?

Did he follow up on that credit card issue?

Don't worry, I don't expect any answers except for the next one

Now on to more important matters,

What's next, you ask?

DATE NITE 😳love...any ideas how that will go?? C'mon we know you ff all other/few scenes so tells tells 😎bhaat happens in that tarik?
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Hey Shush! Great post, but I respectfully dis-agree that Anjali is NOT a manipulator! She most certainly is! She has always used her crying to manipulate Arnav! Even Shyam used to be afraid to upset her! She is a women who is constantly demanding attention and almost leeching off the attention and love she gets from her family! She is whiny, pouty and lazy! Never having worked a DAY in her life, she does not know the value of money! She gives Shyam Rs75,000 to buy a watch?? WHAT self respecting women would continue to use her BROTHER's money to fund her husband? THAT is why I say her charchter is a "Fallacy" and a study in contradictions! She is SO traditional, but does not think twice about being a married women and living in her brother's house for free and funding her husband with her brother's money! She is so traditional, but she does not take a stand and LEAVE with her husband whom she claims her family dosent "Respect"!! Even her DADI is a contradiction, coz if she was SO traditional, she would not try to FORCE her daughter's husband back into her son's house! It is ridiculouse! Anjali is also a selfish hypocrite, who is pretending to be happy for Arnav and Khushi now, when a few weeks ago, she was not even able to handle seeing them together! HOW she thinks this is all a "Misunderstanding" is beyond me! SHE herself knows that Khushi had a man called Shyam in her life! Her OTHER sister in law claimed that THAT Shyam and HER Shyam are the same? So SHE is lying too? (she even said, "please call Buaji right now, and ASK her if he didnt live in our house pretending to be a bachelor"??)!!! WHY would she pluck such a story out of thin air?? Does that seem PLAUSIBLE?? NK and also Mami told her that Shyam was plotting against Arnav and also plotting to divorce her? ALL that is ALSO a misunderstanding? How MANY misunderstanding are there about ONE man?? It is a JOKE for the CV's to expect us to BELEIVE that Anjali is THIS stupid that she has not connected ANY of the dots RE what she has heard about Shyam! She just WANTS to beleive him and is FORCING him down the throats of people who KNOW what he is, and dont want a bar of him! She is just a weak and self-centered women! She NEVER let Arnav explain to her as to WHY he concluded that Shyam was wrong! She always "Blocked" him when he tried to explain!Therefore, after TOLERATING her and Snake and Dadi drama for 3 days, I am at the end of my tether! What sympathy I DID have for her is out the door! I am tired of the way she is USING Arnav and his love, trust and MONEY! She DESERVES NON of it!

Absolutely loved your post. 👏
I agree with every word of it. I am sick of Anjali.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-

Regarding...Anjali moving out etc...I was thinking along the same line and then I struck me...that they ALL LIVE in nanijis house...SO BY THE TRADITIONAL RULES...IT SHOULD BE AKASH'S HOUSE and both Anjal and Anav...should really have no claim to it...WOULDN'T THAT BE THE TRADITIONAL THING TO DO? 😉

Don't think it's Naniji's house. It is Arnav's house. Didn't he start to earn at a very young age and build his empire. Naniji is the eldest in the house and gets due respect. But from what I understand, It's Arnav's house and everyone there have been living off him, except Akash who works in Arnav' s company. That's kind of why he commands so much respect in that house.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45
The main problem is cvs don't know how to balance episodes because they don't keep bank.. Either we get Arhi scenes of 18 19 mins which we don't appreciate... Which has been happening last2 Monday's..

The previous Monday.. Was a case we had janmastami celebration.. Come up to the room and Suhaag Raat and pheras all in 1 episode...


Did we appreciate the janmastami for which they put so much effort.. No..
Did we appreciate come up to the room.. So so Suhaag Raat pheras no.. What could have been stretched to Wednesday was shown in 1 day.. Because the director found it easier to to shoot it..

This week the director found it easier to shoot Arhi scenes on Monday Tuesday.. Fans happy with overdose and the jha scenes on thursday Friday... Fans screaming..
If there had been a balance of 50 % Arhi scenes..
25 % jha scenes..
25 % Dadi Garima drama.. Nobody would have cribbed.. And would have been pleasant viewing..


Daljeet the actress is confused and does not believe whether she grey or positive...she is not pepped up so the people are fed up...


Even mami gets ridiculous lines.. Ridiculous and outlandish walks but she delivers it well.

Even Payal who hates her role does it with conviction..

But Daljeet and akshay have both not got in the skin of role..nk comes in small parts but does it well a commendable job because he is playing a negative role in another soap..






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Posted: 13 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: aath

Don't think it's Naniji's house. It is Arnav's house. Didn't he start to earn at a very young age and build his empire. Naniji is the eldest in the house and gets due respect. But from what I understand, It's Arnav's house and everyone there have been living off him, except Akash who works in Arnav' s company. That's kind of why he commands so much respect in that house.




It is not nanis house in the initial episode only it was clarified that the house belongs to Asr... Even in episodes before rakhi he screamed at anjiebaby saying its my house and I don't want khushi here...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-

@Darcyfan I can understand how annoying this is for some one who is a P&P fan... 😊

Anjalis character has been presented as a very very inconsistent and annoying character...but GH is no Jane Austen...heck he is not even the guy/ gal who is writing Balika Vadhu...I saw that serial one or two times...and I think the writing was much better... Knew why the characters were behaving the way they were...no doubt or confusion about their motives...IPKKND unfortunately...does not have the director or the writer who can pull off a complex story and make it believable...changing tracks don help them either

Regarding...Anjali moving out etc...I was thinking along the same line and then I struck me...that they ALL LIVE in nanijis house...SO BY THE TRADITIONAL RULES...IT SHOULD BE AKASH'S HOUSE and both Anjal and Anav...should really have no claim to it...WOULDN'T THAT BE THE TRADITIONAL THING TO DO?
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Hey Shush, I dont think that Shantivan is "Naniji's" house! Coz as I recall, Arnav VERY distinctly told Anjali (When Anjali insisted that Khushi train La, and Arnav didnt want it)... "This is MY house"!!! So this house in Delhi was purchased AFTER the success of AR! This is NOT Nani's ancestral home! Therefore, Anjali and Shyam have NO right to forcefully live in that house!!
Akash also has said on MANY occasions that "Bhai" makes all the decisions in the house! (He told the Gupta's during the Havaan that everyone in the house has an "Opinion", but Bhai makes the final call!).
ALSO, IF the home was actually Nanji's ancestral home, then there is NO way that Arnav would have been able to force La into the house against her will! HE decided to cancel the Sangeet for PAYASH wedding to spite Khushi, coz she was getting close to NK!
Therefore, Anjali and Snake are living in ARNAV's house!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#48
I was actually in double mind with Daljeet quitting drama. On one side I was apprehensive that if Daljeet stays the storyline would be changed to suit her and on the other hand I didn't want to lose her as she was the original sister. Now I wish Daljeet had quit. Few things that go against the whole Anjali track.

1. The focus should be on the leads always. Any hit drama needs to have 70% main leads focus + 30% parallel drama.

2. Daljeet just can't act. Period. That is plain and starkly evident. She was good in the scene when she falls down after Shyam is thrown out of the house. But she couldn't engage the viewers in her plight. I couldn't connect to her when she had the abortion thing nor could I connect when she was wallowing away after Khushi's birthday or cribbing that chotte has changed. She could have shown so many emotions,could have questioned the people, could have pondered but nope there were no such scenes which made me feel she was suffering. Half the blame goes to the creatives too as they couldn't pen the scenes correctly and half the blame goes to Daljeet as she couldn't act the scenes out.

3. My biggest thing was she never looked the part of the pregnant women who had the biggest shock of her life. She didn't sport baby bump till last week. How are you supposed to sympathize with her if she doesn't even look like a 6 month pregnant lady.

4. She may or may not have effected the change in the storyline as such per se but her re-negotiations sure came across as that for the viewers. If she wanted to quit she should have quit in the first place. Her "I am quitting - nope I am still around" made viewers very skeptical of her and when the track was changed it felt that Daljeet enforced it. And she couldn't take criticism and the rangmuch video where she explained her point came across as very snobbish and "I don't give a damn about viewers feelings" thing.

5. And the biggest problem is that audience wanted to see Arnav Khushi love story but they were forced to watch Di ki kahani which put off the majority of the viewers and it was like Di is suddenly the lead and Arnav and Khushi are the parallel leads. So it makes me wonder what show was I watching the whole of past 1 yr.

Unless the PH comes forward and gets the love story on track, the TRPs are going to go down. I am dreading the TRPs for this week. I would be happy if we maintain 2.5. The Friday episode was a major turnoff and I hope the TRPs don't get dragged down due to that episode.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: AyeReKhushi

I have been successfully avoiding any threads defending Anji but I just had to read this because I can't believe you are trying to see her side!😆


Hats off to you...it is very difficult defending a character like Anjali right now but you made excellent points. I know there is a reason behind her madness...somewhere, you can try to justify her actions because of all that she has been through. However, the biggest problem is that I don't feel Anjali is being portrayed properly. Most of us can't bring ourselves to feel sorry for her, no matter how hard we try...don't you think that's a problem, when scenes are written specifically to get us to feel sorry for her yet we feel nothing?

I actually don't want to see a rift between Arnav and Anjali because that would mean the focus of the show will shift onto that sibling relationship. I don't want to see more of that. This is a time they should be focusing on ArHi as they recently confessed and are about to be remairried. The CVs should be spending time coming up with a well-written love track for them. Instead, we are getting a mixture of multiple half-baked tracks because they want to give everyone importance...whats getting lost is the fact that the entire show is suffering due to this. Last I checked, ArHi are the leads...you don't have to be a fangirl to demand to see more of them...its only natural.

I don't have anything against side characters, I know they are needed to run a show. However, they should be on the SIDE, supporting the leads and main story...they shouldn't becomethestory. Why do I feel like the show is all about Anjali meeting her husband behind everyone's back right now? ArHi's remarriage feels like an after-thought, at least that is how the CVs are treating it.

I will also add that Anjali as a character is just not working. She is not interesting enough to hold the viewers attention...nor is she interesting enough to be a parallel lead. I get bored every time she comes on screen. I know you wouldn't see anyone complaining if NK got as much screen time as her. So its not like we'reagainstside characters, she's just not one we are interested in seeing more of. I used to appreciate DB's acting in the past but it has gotten very tiring and repetitive these days...that's what happens when you force a supporting actor to shoulder the screen time of a lead actor, its not that easy. You need screen presence and charisma to be a lead, neither of which I'm seeing in her right now, unfortunately.




I agree with you that Anjali as a character is not holding people's interest including mine ...previously I used to fast forward all of Shyams scenes...I fast forward Anjalis too now a days...


If the director focused on the angles I mention...that is about her past, the scars from there, her thought process, her reactions...that would be more interesting than how exactly is she behaving under Shyams influence...Now what we have is a focus on her scenes with Shyam...something where she comes across as foolish ...and intolerable...even if I say I can perhaps understand where she is coming from at an intellectual level...I am totally not interested to sit through her scenes...Very poor direction and poor storytelling. ... ...
Edited by -Sush- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#50
Sorry have been quite busy this weekend and haven't had time to write much on IF!!!

So whose house is it any way? Thanks everyone for reminding...tha ARnie said it is his house...yes I agree that he is the major earning member I does not seem likely that he actually bought the house... Either they all lived in this house when Arnie ad Anjal moved here about 14 years back...or they moved after ARnie built his business...if they did move...why would mamaji and mamiji and Akash move with them? Raizadas have been fairly well off...and not in need of money to be supported by Arnies business alone... So I think they all still live in nanis house...where arnie is the most well off right now because of his business...and probably pays for most of the living expenses

Spirit...dear...I think more goofing up by Khushi and a little teasing is in store for us at the date...ARnie will probably end up paying for the date...and ask Khushi to do something else for him...Shyam will escape... 😉
Edited by -Sush- - 13 years ago

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