Clearing some misconceptions about redemption - Page 15

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Rockerchic



I can't make you see it my way. I've failed as a debater. That's alright.

He still has more to do but all i'm saying is that this is a start. This is redemption for me. We have a long way to go yet. I don't disagree.

I understand your point. You are saying the way they are showing redemption works for you. For me it would have worked too if they had shown all these things at least after the some intense realization by ASR. Let me explain - suppose you break something which belong to someone else out of anger, then you realize you were not right, then you buy a new one for that person. But, the point is you shouldn't have broken it in the first place! You have to say sorry for that part. Then you can buy a new one for that person. You see, that's the point I am trying to make. That's why he needs to say sorry. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
Your right to compare him to Heathcliff! And right, H never realised his mistake and kept making more. Arnav does realise it and he is atleast doing something about it!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: rima

bang on. this is my biggest problem. in the faraq padta hai time or when he said sorry he felt her pain hy not now when it is needed. or is it a taken for granted feeling coming in


Earlier when ever he was sorry and during farak padta hain track he was attracted to her and still he felt guilty and now when he is in love with her there is not an iota of realization and guilty at all😕
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sarunfan4ever


Earlier when ever he was sorry and during farak padta hain track he was attracted to her and still he felt guilty and now when he is in love with her there is not an iota of realization and guilty at all😕

exactly my point! ghar ki murgi dal barabar
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Posted: 13 years ago
Rima, Rima, Rima!! Kya karoon main tumhaara!😆 I am in awe of your clarity of thought and the simple yet powerful way with which you nail the issue EVERYTIME! Take a bow for this post!👏

I just read your post and without seeing any more responses I am replying straight away; don't need to peek into them because nothing will match the brilliance of what you said.

You rendered me speechless; I thought I'll bring out the analogy of a mother loving her kid in a way that can either make him/her strong or weak and what do I see? You have already mentioned that in the later part of your post😃

So no opinions from my side; only that you spoke my mind completely!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Amazing post Rima. True "redemption" is one of the most misunderstood word in this forum. If someone wants redemption people assume they wanna see Arnav crying, Arnav hurting himself, Arnav doing this, Arnav doing that. If that's the case, then YES I wanna see Arnav crying, hurting himself.
If he can cry his eyes out for Di then yes I wanna see him crying for KHushi.
If he can hurt Khushi for no fault of hers then yes I wanna see him hurting himself for his mistakes.
If he can beg his Di to not give him silent treatment then yes I wanna see him begging Khushi to forgive him.
People who think he has suffered enough, so redemption is not needed.
I think redemption is needed and that too intense one. After saving his life and putting her life into danger, she couldn't get love and respect from this man and got blamed for everything once again. I don't think he suffered enough. If he had suffered enough, he would've realized her importance and not accused her for Shyam's actions and said nasty things he did that day. So, he needs to suffer more!

Khushi has made mistakes too!
yes she has and I think she is suffering too. She's suffering everyday.

Khushi herself doesn't want it.
Khushi herself didn't want the accusations he threw her way. Khushi herself didn't want the pain he gave her. Khushi herself didn't want the contract marriage he forced her into. There are many other things Khushi herself didn't want but he did them. So why is this an exception?

If all these can be done by Arnav for others and against her will, I think now isn't any exception. He can do them once again. He NEEDS TO REDEEM himself badly. The intense realization is needed. If now he's standing up for her and is making her smile, it's good for him. He loves her her so all these things are natural. But his recent actions don't justify his past actions or make up for his past actions. Until he doesn't realize his mistakes and doesn't apologize, there's no redemption from his side!
Edited by ..Kirann.. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: zenjoe

Rima, Rima, Rima!! Kya karoon main tumhaara!😆 I am in awe of your clarity of thought and the simple yet powerful way with which you nail the issue EVERYTIME! Take a bow for this post!👏

I just read your post and without seeing any more responses I am replying straight away; don't need to peek into them because nothing will match the brilliance of what you said.

You rendered me speechless; I thought I'll bring out the analogy of a mother loving her kid in a way that can either make him/her strong or weak and what do I see? You have already mentioned that in the later part of your post😃

So no opinions from my side; only that you spoke my mind completely!

effusive words of praise zenjoe. thanks for the nice words
i feel the mother connection is just natural because we all correct people we want to see improving...the way we want asr to
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: rima

good quetion y dear
welcome to the club of the confused IPK fans😊


Lol, i have so many confusions about this show..but most of times i had confused when i saw just last nite ArHi hugged passionately but instantly next morning they again started fighting for silly matter😲.😆.i would be distracted..n thought" golmal hai bhai sab golmal hai"!!🤣 After all these i love this show n ArHi a lot of.😳
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ..Kirann..

Amazing post Rima. True "redemption" is one of the most misunderstood word in this forum. If someone wants redemption people assume they wanna see Arnav crying, Arnav hurting himself, Arnav doing this, Arnav doing that. If that's the case, then YES I wanna see Arnav crying, hurting himself.

If he can cry his eyes out for Di then yes I wanna see him crying for KHushi.
If he can hurt Khushi for no fault of hers then yes I wanna see him hurting himself for his mistakes.
If he can beg his Di to not give him silent treatment then yes I wanna see him begging Khushi to forgive him.
People who think he has suffered enough, so redemption is not needed.
I think redemption is needed and that too intense one. After saving this life and putting her life into danger, she couldn't get love and respect from his man and got blamed for everything once again. I don't think he suffered enough. If he had suffered enough, he would've realized her importance and not accused her for Shyam's actions and said nasty things he did that day. So, he needs to suffer more!

Khushi has made mistakes too!
yes she has and I think she is suffering too. She's suffering everyday.

Khushi herself doesn't want it.
Khushi herself didn't want the accusations he threw her way. Khushi herself didn't want the pain he gave her. Khushi herself didn't want the contract marriage he forced her into. There are many other things Khushi herself didn't want but he did them. So why is this an exception?

If all these can be done by Arnav for others and against her will, I think now isn't any exception. He can do them once again. He NEEDS TO REDEEM himself badly. The intense realization is needed. If not he's standing up for her and is making her smile, it's good for him. He loves her her so all these things are natural. But his recent actions don't justify his past actions or make up for his past actions. Until he doesn't realize his mistakes and doesn't apologize, there's no redemption from his side!

well said kirnn. you have always been the strongest supporter of this track
unless he mends the past there can be no peace for us or nothing to look forward to in the future
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: rima


correct imagine if asr sai sorry to khushi after she has had two or three kids😊


Exactly you have to apply medicine when the wound is still fresh, I hope you are getting it.

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