IP REDUX; Machiavelli - Page 3

Originally posted by: -sylph-

loved loved loved the office part and precap , loved the epi after a long time.

ASR and Kushi are back..

For me todays episode was all about "tum akele sab kuch nai kar sakthi"

ASR has come to terms that he needs Kushi in his life, in his good and bad and now its time for Kushi to come to terms that she too needs him in her good and bad.

He was sweet to her, like Arnav asked her what is the problem, assured her that he will stay by her and she can realy ion him if their is any problem but all he got back was kuch nahi and Kushi still had that main sab kuch akele kar sekti hoon attitude , she needs to get over that. She doesnt have to do everything alone and their is no need to do anything alone. He is just showing her she can depend on him , rely on him.

It was never about money to him otherwise he would have asked for his initial 25k (car damage) , hospital bill payed for babuji, 300 Rs, and more from her. But he never did.

And this has even nothing to do with self respect, he very well knows about it, otherwise a arrogant business man would nt stand and lsuten to her yell silently at the hospital when she tells him off for paying her fathers hosp bill, he stands quiet coz he understands and respects . This is all to show her on whom she can depend on and she has right on him.

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Originally posted by: Nia.D

A girl who covers her broken heart with a smile and a lie. A guy who opens his closely-guarded heart to the woman he loves.

A wife who swallows her happiness for her husband's happiness. A husband whose happiness vests in his wife's presence in his life.

A wife who counts down the days for the end of her marriage. A husband who counts down the days to renew his marriage with his wife.

A lover who dissolves in tears while the clock strikes midnight for her love. A lover who smiles confidently, looking forward to bringing his wife back to her rightful position in his life.

A woman who is yet to accept the importance of her lover and husband in her life. A man who has accepted the importance of his lover and wife in his life.

The woman and the man, the girl and the guy, the wife and the husband - connected by the pearly string of Love.

Originally posted by: namedx

Reserved.

...and a very, very apt title; in more ways than one! 😊

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Personal ramblings

As soon as I saw tonight's Redux title, I just knew I had to reserve. Dissecting episodes has never been my forte as I simply do not have the patience to connect the dots, nor to contemplate the complexities of such a beautifully woven tale - As always, I shall leave that to the glowing gems of redux, however, what I would like to offer is some of my own personal thoughts and insights into the magic created on screen and the characters which we have come to hold so dear. My thoughts are never mine alone, and I would be foolish to accept it as such. Rather, they are shaped from an amalgamation of views which are brought together on this very platform, via people who have come to love this drama for what it is. Twenty minutes of escapism, a slice of reality, a fictional tale of complex characters and a gripping storyline - call it what you will, but the fact that each of you have your own unique perspectives on this drama makes me proud of being part of such an online community. Kudos to you all who share such unique perspectives; perspectives which always seek to heighten understanding, not to coerce, shape or influence our thoughts - for our thoughts are always going to carry our own individual flavour.

So kudos to Tants and Doods for providing such a platform...it's been an absolute pleasure to be a part of this online community.

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Machiavellian traits

Machiavelli is one hell of a fascinating figure to study. He was and remains to be a rather contentious facet of history. For me, he personified the darkness of human psyche. The kind of figure you would love to hate - he was absolutely ruthless in his time, but also an aspiring genius. A man who fell from the top of his game, only to vouch he would climb back up, come what may. He ruled his people with such aggression and vigour that you can't help but be awed by his contempt/disregard for human compassion. For him, the answer to life was simple and cruel: you dominate people through a form of tyranny and oppression; by way of controlling their very state of being through playing on their fears and their insecurities. Spreading evil and hatred in the serving of self-interest and power, even if it means trampling on the very people you have come to love and trust - deceiving them and abusing their faith in you. A very selfish, cold hearted way of thinking. To put it plainly, he was an amoral thinker; one who was notoriously known for it - for him, the ends justified the means. Sound familiar to anyone?

So the Machiavellian prince has started to climb back up again, and who's his first target, none other than his beloved Rani Sahiba! I loved Shyam's entrance, subtle yet menacing. Though we don't actually see him on screen, we are made to feel his presence. Interestingly, we see them in the middle of conversation, and it is through Anjali's dialogue that we come to know that Shyam has indeed begun to weave that web of deception once again. And by the sounds of it, it seems Anjali has once again allowed herself to become trapped by it.

Her tears were proof of her insecurities; and he's going to play on them once again by way of manipulation.

To my knowledge, Machiavelli was brought down by the very people he sought to deceive, on charge of conspiracy and treason. He was arrested but then shortly released having served his time. History always alludes to the the victory of the masses, the people who form public opinion, the real voice of reason - in this case, it will be interesting to see who will knock Shyam down from that climb to power, Maami, who is all eyes and ears, or Anjali, who seems capable of taking her revenge in equal measure once she untangles herself from the web of deceit.

In this respect, would it be fair to say that Machiavellian tendencies can be seen to exist in more than one character, especially where self interest is involved?? According to Machiavellian teaching, the climb to power can only take place by way of climbing over others in power. If the person climbing were to be pushed off, who would then reclaim that climb to power? I'll leave that for you to ponder over.

The Road to Redemption: The two sides of ASR

I have this really bad habit of drawing my conclusions about an episode of IPK before even watching it. As a result, I find myself re-visiting my earlier thoughts and revising them accordingly. This is where other people's thoughts/reflections aid in my own understanding. Today, I based a lot of assumptions on ASR's character, and my want for redemption. With the help of other reduxians I was able to backtrack and revise my earlier thought processes and question what it is that I seek from a redemption, and whether or not it fits in with the characterisation ASR.

When I heard that this episode brought back the original ASR who had been missing over the past few episodes (to some extent), I became slightly anxious as to what that meant. Did it mean he was to return to his former arrogant self, whereby he would overlook all past grievances in an effort to move on, or did it mean returning to his former self in an effort to settle past grievances. It is at this point that I began to question: what qualities make up ASR, what is the main difference between the ASR now and the ASR then, and at what point does it become debatable as to whether or not he is in character, especially if qualities of both Arnav and ASR are seemingly merged(ing).

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Originally posted by: Jhalak29

hey anyone arnd???😊

Originally posted by: sunshine99

me jhals 😊

Originally posted by: Jhalak29

🤗 Koel, how ws it are we expecting sumthing exciting ahead😆

Originally posted by: Nia.D

A girl who covers her broken heart with a smile and a lie. A guy who opens his closely-guarded heart to the woman he loves.

A wife who swallows her happiness for her husband's happiness. A husband whose happiness vests in his wife's presence in his life.

A wife who counts down the days for the end of her marriage. A husband who counts down the days to renew his marriage with his wife.

A lover who dissolves in tears while the clock strikes midnight for her love. A lover who smiles confidently, looking forward to bringing his wife back to her rightful position in his life.

A woman who is yet to accept the importance of her lover and husband in her life. A man who has accepted the importance of his lover and wife in his life.

The woman and the man, the girl and the guy, the wife and the husband - connected by the pearly string of Love.