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Posted: 13 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Amara_B

I completely agree with you. The magic has gone.The truth is I haven't watched IPKKND in over 2 months now because I loath where they've gone with this. It's like Twilight with an Indian twist. Arnav is nothing but abusive towards Khushi, both mentally and physically. Even the birthday cake scene yesterday, I saw the pictures and read about it, and again he is using his physical strength, and anger to force Khushi to succumb to his will. This is supposed to be romantic? A man using his anger and physical strength time and time again to force an innocent young girl to do exactly as he says, irrespective of her wishes, or what negative effect it has on her is NOT romantic; it's abusive.
There is no sense of justice in Arnav his world begins and ends at Anjali, everyone else can rot in hell, as long as Anjali is happy. If he wanted to he could balance both womens happiness, but he doesn't care enought to even attempt that.
These shows are extremely popular with the lower classes in India right? They therefore have a RESPONSIBILITY towards educating their viewers. At the moment they're teling they're viewers; "it doesn't matter if your husband man-handles you, abuses you, and mentally torments you, all of that is his love. You should just sit their like an obedient lttle doe and take all his abuse and thank him for the rare bouts of love he shows you". That is absolutely unacceptable, this sort of thing is a huge problem in India, and they're re-inforcing the idea that it's all good, and normal.
The ONLY thing that can redeem this show for me now, is Khushi being shown to fight for her rights and leaving Arnav for good. They can do a redemption track, but Khushi shouldn't go back to Arnav, she should find a man who loves her (properly loves her, not this new brand of twilight love), and treats her with the respect she deserves.
The bottom line is NOTHING justifies Arnav's behaviour. Abuse, any form of abuse (and Arnav has infilicted every possible type of abuse on Khushi) is NEVER justifiable, and anyone who tries to make out that it is needs to seriously check ther priorities. Arnav lost his parents at a young age, fine. However he has a loving family. There are so many people in the world who have no one, Arnav has a Nan, aunt, uncle, sister, brother, all of whom dote on him. What about that is sad? He is lucky. All I'm getting from all this is that Arnav is a selfish, and ungrateful character who will go to any length to get what he wants, including abusing his wife, whom he claims to love.
That to me is not a positive character, it''s a negative character who the creatives are trying to sell as a positive character. I truly hope no girl ever believes the sort of behaviour shown on this show, (Arnav's abuse, Khushi silently taking it all, and obeying him) is ok, normal, or acceptable. I hope no girl dreams for this kind of love, because this isn't love it's sadism.

very well said...probably loss in interest is also due to the couple in focus...
kya ho gaya hamare arnav khushi ko...arnav inflicting all abuses and force on khushi...(except only when he was kidnapped)...i know he wanted to make day special for khushi...but forcing cake in her mouth...ye kaisa pyaar hai...by this rate khushi will always suffer...she was forced to come to Raizada house...she will be forced to leave...a character like her needs to put foot down...this bro sis duo (adding mami as icing on cake) have just made this complete serial unbearable...
being female fan...i accept i still watch the show to watch barun's acting and his screen presence, sanaya's charm and smile...but watching arnav's character this way tells me "wait for another serial with Barun as lead...no expectations from ipkknd" 😭 my heart goes out to say this
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I see where you are coming from. I am actually one of those people who empathizes with her and feels sorry for her even, however, what I cannot understand is why the PH, actors are on "sympathize with Anjali" mission. Some people will connect with her and some wont. It has to come through the screenplay. How can they force people to feel for a character outside the storyline? For 1 year, we have connected with Arhi. They are close to our heart. Anjali isn't and that is a fact. If they really want the mass to sympathize with her, then show it in the story. I personally feel bad for her because I put myself in her shoes and feel how devastating this must be to her, not because I feel sympathy for her on screen. That is a fact.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I could see the pain from Daljeet when she was talking about the mail-attack she got.. She don't have to explain her character. It's all upto us how we feel about her character but it's not fair to attack Daljeet for what she is doing.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bidz

I see where you are coming from. I am actually one of those people who empathizes with her and feels sorry for her even, however, what I cannot understand is why the PH, actors are on "sympathize with Anjali" mission. Some people will connect with her and some wont. It has to come through the screenplay. How can they force people to feel for a character outside the storyline? For 1 year, we have connected with Arhi. They are close to our heart. Anjali isn't and that is a fact. If they really want the mass to sympathize with her, then show it in the story. I personally feel bad for her because I put myself in her shoes and feel how devastating this must be to her, not because I feel sympathy for her on screen. That is a fact.


@bold 👍🏼
Well thanks for getting the point
Till yesterday I was not feeling anything for her. but yesterday's scene was nice. It showed a woman's loneliness. Instead of continuing that way why roam around advertising for her? its confusing. does it mean that anjali as a character is perceived different by viewers than intended by CVs? whose fault is that?😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Baki

I could see the pain from Daljeet when she was talking about the mail-attack she got.. She don't have to explain her character. It's all upto us how we feel about her character but it's not fair to attack Daljeet for what she is doing.


this is def not an attack against any actor.
It was a continuation of my previous thread where I clearly mentioned that screen play should gather sympathy and today i was citing an example how screenplay worked magic to gather her sympathy. All the external advertisements for the character will not make the viewers connect with it.

That was my point.
Edited by sree07 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sree07


@bold 👍🏼
Well thanks for getting the point
Till yesterday I was not feeling anything for her. but yesterday's scene was nice. It showed a woman's loneliness. Instead of continuing that way why roam around advertising for her? its confusing. does it mean that anjali as a character is perceived different by viewers than intended by CVs? whose fault is that?😕
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I think that's what it seems. They want everyone to be sympathetic towards her for the story to proceed the way they have perceived, but now she is perceived as the "other woman" in Arhi's life. That is probably frustrating the makers. They keep talking about this unbreakable brother-sister bond. We saw some of that in the earlier episodes, but those got completely diluted when you see her not thinking twice about giving Rs.75,000 to Shyam for a watch, living in her own bubble when a brother is kidnapped for 15 days and is virtually out of phone contact, her getting upset that her chote broke off his engagement with LA. Where is the understanding shown for her brother. We have always seen Arnav doing things for her, him ready to give up his "khushi" for his di. They might have perceived Anjali to be doing the same for her chote, but failed to show us that bond. So, can they blame the audience now if we cannot connect?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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One more reson why the viewers do not feel sympathetic towards Anjali is the absence of her babybump. she should be by now 7 months pregnant with a very very visible babybump. Anajli is still displaying her smil and trim belly in the nice net saries, whick prevents the viewers to 'feel' for her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bidz


I think that's what it seems. They want everyone to be sympathetic towards her for the story to proceed the way they have perceived, but now she is perceived as the "other woman" in Arhi's life. That is probably frustrating the makers. They keep talking about this unbreakable brother-sister bond. We saw some of that in the earlier episodes, but those got completely diluted when you see her not thinking twice about giving Rs.75,000 to Shyam for a watch, living in her own bubble when a brother is kidnapped for 15 days and is virtually out of phone contact, her getting upset that her chote broke off his engagement with LA. Where is the understanding shown for her brother. We have always seen Arnav doing things for her, him ready to give up his "khushi" for his di. They might have perceived Anjali to be doing the same for her chote, but failed to show us that bond. So, can they blame the audience now if we cannot connect?


ditto...@bold lines i liked it.

Now that damage is done, do something with the screen play to fix it. Other than pooja and all I forgot a day when anjali has done something for chotey. I think they wanted to show a symbiotic relationship between the siblings but viewers mostly perceived it as parasitical.



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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have found someof my previous comments made on the topic "Awww Daljeets so cute" exacting exprssing the same ideas. That's why I'm copy-pasitng my comments once again:

I think suddenly too much focus on Anjali was not accepted by viewers. They were expecting more of Arhi reconciliation. that's why they felt irritated specially when Anjali's scenes are shown in between Arhi romance!!! Particularlly I did not like Anajli's l-o-n-g walk and the opening of Arhi's bedroom door without knocking, when Arnav and Khushi were cutting the cake. It was not justified at all, neither by the character nor by the script. She is elder to Arnav and Akash, she should also be mature enogh to accept and deal with her personal tragedies!

Arnav is also to be blamed for her delusional state. He should have not allowed his "di" to live in the make- believe world that her "Shyamji" has been wornged by all in RM. Arnav should tell her all about Shyams misdeeds and what Shyam himself told him (about not loving "rani sahiba" and instead loving "Khushiji" where Anajli is just the obstacle) on the day of Akash and Payal's marriage.

Anyway, when Akash and Daljeet talked about "hard work" in the rangmuncch interview, I have to say that every actor works hard., it is a part of their job. They have chosen to be actors by their free choice, no one forced them!!! And They also know the perks, they are paid good enough for that!!! So why complain?!?!??!

CDlove's post on the same topic:
what I don't understand is why people try to justify her actions through external means. As she said, it's a story. If the story writers are doing a good job at potraying Anjlai, we must be able to feel it.
No amount of the writer making tweets or the actress coming in and making baby faces and begging in cooning voices to make us 'feel' sympathetic about the character, is going to help.
It's a visual medium work of art and segments of the audience are bound to get differnt feelings to the episode and character.
A painter paint a picture of a sad woman but does he ask us to feel sad for the woman? We look at it and if his work is good, we''ll feel moved.
If a writer write a book about a sad woman and if he had done a good job at conveying the sad woman's feelings, we'll feel bad for her.
Let the show decide on how we feel about the Anjlai character. Stop justifying and pushing us to feel for her. After all it's our right to feel how we feel about about it.

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I mean any character or incident must not be just pushed on the vieweres because the makers think it is right. They must also respect the audiences wishes. The realtionship between the daily soap and its audience is reciprocal. They are dependent on each other and one cannot just ignore the other!! Do not forget, the auidence cannot just simply be ignored 'cause IPKKND also became popular by and through them! Please repsect their wishes too.

If the audeince is making so much hullaboo about any incident or about any character of IPKKND, the makers should be proud that their serial is influencing sooo many people all over the world!

I think what the audience demands is simple. Make the story a compact one. Right now, there are too many loose ends, i.e. Shaym's whereabouts, his next step is hugely ignored by Raizada; there is no effort shown to regain Khushi's lost mobile and purse whcih carries strong evidences against Shyam; no efforts are shown from any of the Raizadas (especially Arnav) to talk to Anjali regarding Shyam.

Lastly, off course I do not support sending personal hate mails to actors, neither have I commited such acts myself. It is unethical! They are just protraying the characters on screen. But it is the duty of the makers (producer, director, writer etc.) to make the protrayals realiable and believable.It is not such a huge demand I think? Make us feel for the characters.OR?!?!!??!
Edited by babli0204 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Baki

I could see the pain from Daljeet when she was talking about the mail-attack she got.. She don't have to explain her character. It's all upto us how we feel about her character but it's not fair to attack Daljeet for what she is doing.


Ditto. I can see Daljet's pain. And I felt very sad for her.

I can't help but recall when the whole mess about her leaving was leaked and she said in her interview to Zainab "Keep sending those messages to me you guys" and look what happened. Now she is getting so many messages that she is creeped out. I feel so sorry for her. Earlier she used to love the fan messages because they were positive, right now her character is psychotic, brain dead and almost grey, so naturally the love mails have transformed in to hate mail. I don't condone the personal, Daljeet hate messages, that is disgusting, but Anjali the character hate messages will be a normal thing. Why feel depressed about that? Look at Abhaas .. he is called all kinds of names and what not and still handles all this like a pro. Daljeet too needs to be strong.

Like how we need to realize that it is the character and not the actor, similarly she needs to realize that people are hating the character (most of them anyway) and not her.

And if the PH wants us to sympathize with Anjali, then they have to SHOW it us on screen, convince us through your work, like yesterday's scene was so much better (still, there are 4 ladies in the house and she wants her brother to accompany her to the Gynec, seriously? 😕)

Anyhow, hopefully the screenplay will get better.. ultimately it has to on screen, no amount of off screen interviews, articles can bring in sympathy for the character... please work for it in the correct manner Ms Gul Khan.

All said and done.. sending personal hate mails is just WRONG. People need to differentiate between the actor and character. Poor thing looks traumatized


Edited by vellainsaan - 13 years ago

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