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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: b.sarika2


In Shyam's words..Khushi abhi chhoti hai..time lagega...

but GH said woh badi hogayi hai 18/20/22/25, aur kitna choti..

Will her character show growth when she is 40😆

U knw sometimes its nt age, there are ppl who grow up with high maturity level at a very small age due to family reasons, and kushi is one such, probably i wud hv took immaturity frm payal but frm kushi the maturity should hv been more.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

To add to that point tants..anyone didnt notice why arnav mention her as the cause..look at the dialogue bfore that by khushi..she says hamari wajah se...that triggers it...he picks up on that and say yes you are the reason... he was wrong but at his place I wud have reacted in same manner...



Yes..That is his cue ..A helplessness as to why She herself maaro's khulladi over her feet ...
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: iritz



As much as I understand Khushi's nature and the fact that it was in her character to have gone to Anjali to soothe her... I too felt it was very insensitive of her to have told her, just a day after the woman's life is shattered and she doesn't even know why or how... you tell her to forget him and move on... You need to give a person some time to get over the shock and mourn the grief.

Again, Arnav was in character too when he lashed out on Khushi... and the fact that he soon realized his mistake and regretted makes him a little better... For Khushi doesn't realize when she's at fault.

It was when Arnav told her in the middle of the road, on the way back to RM from GH, that she realized for the first time that not speaking out at the time, was a mistake on her part... Not that if she had spoken then, anyone would have believed her ! But then, at least her conscience would be clean.

They are humans (ok... not really... but then they are supposed to be humans) and humans make mistakes... both justified somehow, both unjustified somehow... That's what them make humans !!!



👏 👏 Aapne hamaare moonh ki baat cheen li!! Wanted to put this down, but wasn't able to frame it well... lekin you wrote it down so neatly and clearly. Agree with every word you have written, soul sister! 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1


Anna .. .u know my thots exactly .. but here i have one more point .. hear me out .. will probably help u understand Khushi better ...

@ BOLD RED : tel me one thing .. who could she have gone to with her woes on SHYAM ..post marriage .. except PAYAL .. who cannot help her ..
ANJALI / NANI / MAMI : would they have believed her ?
ASR: the MAN screams he thinks she is lower than POND SCUM .. would he have believed her ?
AKASH : Probably ... but he would have run to ASR .. & who would disabuse him of the idea in a split second ... also through out the beginning of Khushi 's marriage she was battling to protect PAYASH wedding ..

My point above is WHY DO characters have to wrong or right ??
YEs there is a villain in IPK .. Shyam Manohar Jha ...

For the rest .. aren't circumstances the biggest villains of the piece ???



I get your point Ruby but then why blame the man!? So in a way she did lead Shyam on right!? Ny not taking any action against him!

She the one who stands up for herself against the mighty ASR - fights with him - contradicts him - cannot stand up for herself. And when Arnav throws the same thing at her - he is judged!? Why!? Was he wrong in saying that!? He was not! He cannot have a dream that Khushi did not lead Shyam but was forced.

I dont like the guy being blamed for all the mistakes. We are discussing a possibility here. Maybe Khushi could not go and confess anything - because she is Khushi - but there was never any regret - any thought of even letting anyone know. It does not matter whether she did not confess to anyone - the thought counts. I am sorry but "mitti daalo" was the nail in the coffin for me. More so the man lusted her in front of his wife - but there was never a thought!?

COming to Gupta ladies
- biggest disappointment on planet earth! Payal - Garima and Buaji - knowing Shyam is in the same house - they never questioned Khushi!? I mean what is wrong with that family!? Whatever it is I am sure no family - would want their daughter to be in the same house with a man like Shyam. True they could not do anything about it - but they could show some concern.

My point is I dont see a character growth at all - neither did I see it before - nor do I see it now. I am hoping it happens soon though - because I cannot see Arnav or Anjali being blamed for Khushi's so called righteousness.



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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: tanthya}
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U know Supna..what triggers the rage in Arnav ...It was the usage of 'SIRF" by Khushi ... 'SIRF" ... His sister was going to kill herself n his wife Says "SIRF" , His sister has closeted herself n has withdrawn from all contacts n she says "SIRF" ..His sister has distanced him n she says "SIRF"...His house is reeling and teetering under the baseless allegations of Khushi n She says 'SIRF"..it was the SIRF that triggered him cos that somehow trivialized the enormity of the calamity..


Tants: This is ur USP: 👏👏👏 How u caught on that "SIRF"👏👏
BTW, I got the delivery of 50 shades of Grey today :):) meri weekend st ho gayi hai...did u order for it????
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1


Hey Riti ..

Remember the scene when she first finds out the truth about Shyam .. she meets ASR .. he points out the problem .. she wants to tell him but she stops simply because she knows of his dedication to Di ...

Then the next time around ..she wants to tell him .. she hears his Di is going to have a baby .. she was again justified in hiding it from him .. coz the truth at that point of time would have destroyed Arnav .. & isn't that exactly what happened ( but ofc she dint know about it )

NOW FOR THE MAIN INSIGHT ... all the times she HID about Shyam .. was ONE REASON ONLY ... her LOVE for the one MAN ASR ... the moment he tells her i know .. she says it out ...
I woman in LOVE .. makes a decision based on her emotions .. not necessarily what on hindsight may look right or wrong ...

BUT for the WOMAN in LOVE .. protecting her LOVE from GRIEF & BLOW .. would've been paramount ... 😃

Now yet again .. this is how i read Khushi .. this was what she always spoke out .. i did it for U

That's the difference between making decisions with your head and decisions with your heart...both Khushi and ASR get swept away in what they feel is the need of the moment and they fail to predict the future...IPK really reminds me of a chess game at times..😆
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: IndigoBlues

I think what Anji needs at this point of time is insensitivity..this might sound harsh..but Anji has got sensitivity her whole life..khushi suffers, payal suffers, arnav suffers, maami suffers, even SHYAM suffers, but Anjali always behaves like the innocent baby whom everyone must shield..the woman is in her early 30's and its high time she started behaving that old...especially since she is pregnant..i am speaking from PERSONAL experience that I had somebody who'd lost everything in the world's eyes but she had me, and she never broke down when I was there..(yeah people, I am a momma's girl🤣)


Hmm..Anjali needs to come out of this and for now Arnav is keeping his strong stand on Shyam. But abhi Shyamu ki re-entry baki hai...tab tak we will have bear with Anjali's delusions😆
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: nancynair

I would also say Tants that I did not like ASR refusing professional help from doctor at the clinic initially,

Anji needs medical attention first and foremost and not the let her be attitude of RM vaasis now

It is heartbreaking for family when initially a family member goes into severe depression which is a medical condition

They themselves need guidance and counselling at this stage for the patient can do anything including harming her self more so in Anji's case when there is a family history

He refused because...they were trying to hold her ...and he as a brother...couldn't take it...😊
He wanted a moment to calm her...which he did...if he wasn't able to then ...the issue is different
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: RiyaDutta

well Nina this goes for most of the female leads in the Television industry!!!!



I know, but since when did Khushi become trademark tele bahu?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Nia.D


Same here!! 😆 Nice audience we are... 😛

Me too me too..

Since I wrote, let me also say..u guys r awesome!

In the morning I was all upset abt Arnavs reactions especially the last lines..but now I see a point..

hmmm...now I say..I am no one to get angry on arnav or Kushi on why he said so n why she cried..but just sit back n enjoy the show!!!!

Well, still some where at the corner have these pain sensations..arnav cud say anything but not the last lines agree ..he got to now his mistake n do everything to make it upside down..still it hurts yaa..

N u Kushi,better Learn to be sensitive to others need! U can't do everything by urself..even to reach arnav,u needed NK..

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