IP REDUX; Fables !!! Edited on Pg. 1[NOTE pg.27] - Page 7

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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: slmu


no that was made to look like suicide in the beginning, but she actually ended up making jalebis.


yeah but suicide did cross her mind ?

n now she is both in love and her spirit n dreams crushed so quite logical
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: zooni.blue


yeah but suicide did cross her mind ?

n now she is both in love and her spirit n dreams crushed so quite logical


no i don't think suicide crossed her mind. her preparations were for the jalebi making, nothing remotely to do with suicide.

its completely out of character for her to commit suicide, she is a fighter.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: slmu


no i don't think suicide crossed her mind. her preparations were for the jalebi making, nothing remotely to do with suicide.

its completely out of character for her to commit suicide, she is a fighter.


Hi Shanti🤗

Yeah suicide and kushi doesnt go well...and even if all the depression and turn of things is forcing her to get into suicide..why she came to this decision is not portrayed welll...they should have slowly built the intensity..her helplessness should have been projected properly..

Frankly speaking the writers are not thinking about kushi at all..they can make her do anything...so this is to bring out the truth from Arnav's mouth..so again the writers are thinking only about ARNAV...he has to be driven to the extreme to make him spill the beans so thats where they are making kushi do the extrememes...they are not giviing a second thoght of he rbeing a fighter or they are not ready to convey her thoughts to the audience well to show this girl has been driven to the point of break down...its all about ASR!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: slmu


no i don't think suicide crossed her mind. her preparations were for the jalebi making, nothing remotely to do with suicide.

its completely out of character for her to commit suicide, she is a fighter.



I agree slmu..

Suicide is not something a person like Khushi would think of...
Was asking Tanthya the other day that Arnav has changed a lot post marriage.. but how much did Khushi change? I got my answer now.. She's lost the spirit to fight.. and no Arnav is not the reason for it at all... I'm 23 years old.. and even few years back my brain had grown to the level that's needed to crack what's in Arnav's mind... I still feel Lalit Mohan's direction could have got us better episodes... Hopefully the guilt track will compensate for the damage that marriage track has done !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Doods: U gave Redux a completely new meaning with ur awesome analysis...how i wish i could save all ur analysis and read it at leisure...they make a fabulous read...👏👏👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: zooni.blue


yeah but suicide did cross her mind ?

n now she is both in love and her spirit n dreams crushed so quite logical


it would have been quite logical, had she did it after taking all the pain that ASR gace her silently..without doing any of the OTT thing..and then hears such a conversation of Arnav n La n then shows a monologue like "Aap hamare saath kush nahee hein, i will be very happy if u live happily with la..so me leaving u(even i find this stupid😡)" or something like "I have told enough lies to the people around me about this marriage ab mujse aur nahee saha jaatha, the very thought of me coming back to GH and people asking me the reason for this marriage pains like hell..i tried asking u this so many times, but u dont even bother to tell me that, ab humse aur bardaasht nahee hote..hum ja raheen hein, hamaesha hamesha ke liyae.."..but the one that is going on presenlty makes no sense at all..she has reached the peak irritating him n jus after seeing a program in tv and Arnav's actions she feels like he wants to kill her..? common..this is 😡 frustrating.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anna--


Yesterday I watched the episode like a layman. I watched it without any expectations and without trying to decode and decipher what were the hidden meanings. I don't need to say but I was disappointed with the execution. I know what this is leading to - the major confrontation that we have all been waiting for - but if for one moment we forget Doodhs and Sathya and the wonderful decoding that they do for us - What was the episode actually trying to project!? And I mean on face value.


Coming to the episode - It was out and out an episode for Khushi for me. If I seclude her ridiculous thinking of suiciding -which does not have the justification that Arnav pushed her to it - because if it does - then it means she has NEVER understood who Arnav Singh Raizada is actually -




Arnav Singh Raizada and his comfortable demeanor

I have always said Arnav is more relaxed and at ease in the Gupta Household thah he has ever been in Raizada Mansion. Yesterday again we saw that - him being comfortable with Buaji and Garima. The difference between house and home is established through Arnav's actions and manner of his conduct. He helps around the house, he asks Garima to rest, he keeps asking Khushi whether she is okay - he notices small things - what else is to show - that if he had a different upbringing and if the situations were different he would have been a different man all together.


Favorite Character of the day

Arnav Singh Raizada for his character growth ' he cares for Khushi and that was evident in his behavior yesterday and plus loved his interaction with Buaji and Garima respectively.




i can understand your pain anna... i too feel the same...
i knew wha is going to come yesterday... so i just watched it as a comedy serial.

i was even imitating khushi's expressions at different scenes ( see... her acting has even become so predictable !!!) and enjoyed throughly...

its such a coincidence...even my father saw me watching it and commented what a crazy lady .she is.. ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: slmu



no i don't think suicide crossed her mind. her preparations were for the jalebi making, nothing remotely to do with suicide.

its completely out of character for her to commit suicide, she is a fighter.


when her character image destroyed asr by footage of ramp n shame marriage she didnt do this why nw when she got her family back n susral support . N nw only seeing a khabri kundali show n took that disaster step oh no. May God protects us.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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When I saw the episode...I kept my brain aside and Laughed out loud...enjoyed the matam and Sallu's sog...Laxmi's no comments and Arnav's "What the"...and the Kamlesh khabri's..." WHAT THE...do lafzon main apna gham bayan kiya"

Khushi the deer:

In Malay culture there are many traditional folklore about a clever Kancil, which is basically a mouse deer. A weak and small yet cunning figure, the Sang Kancil (mouse deer) uses its intelligent advantage to triumph over beings more powerful than itself. The earlier stories depict a trickster and a practical joker using his wits against other beasts to escape them. He escapes his enemies by cunning but is unwilling to destroy them. These stories always do not show him in favourable light but always give him an appealing charm..The later stories evolved to a stage where he acquired an ideal of justice and exercises his wit for unselfish purposes.

Arnav The wolf:

In various European mythologies, the wolf is equated with creativity, fertility and protection, as well as with destruction, usually in association with the sun and the heroes in relation to the Greek god of Belen. This outlook was similar to the Native American perception of the wolf as embodying both protection and destruction. The wolf occupies a place in all of Europe's religions. Even in the monotheistic religions it is respected, feared and reviled. In European Antiquity, seeing a wolf before the beginning of a battle was an omen of victory, the wolf being symbolic both of the hunter and warrior.



The touching scene...khushi's will...and I am so sure she has left the stars for Arnav...😊

So I decided aaj nothing from me...doods and sathu hi karen ge hardwork...😳

Magar phir bhi I came across something...its not exactly wolf and the deer but it is

Coyote and the Fawn...not much to do with the track...but there are a few lines which caught my eye...which kind of fit on Arnav...

Ab how could I not give you all a short story...😃 Enjoy...

Coyote and Fawn learn about growth within - a story from the East

2006 by Terry & Lin Gardner; Re-told and re-formatted with the permission of his widow, Lin Gardner, by Debbie Dunn

Ellen Eagle soared and glided high above Master Forest, her home. She so greatly enjoyed seeing the playing, feeding, and sleeping animals, bugs, and birds far below her. She said, "I see so much beauty in the children, adults, and old ones below. The flowers are beautiful as well. I feel like talking about how we grow."

Eagle circled lower and lower toward Master Forest. She, as usual, found an easy answer to her wishes from the animals below her. Eagle saw Debbie Deer and her son, Fred Fawn, feeding on the very edge of Beaver pond. Deer was watchful for any danger. She now had her son. She sensed danger and raised her head very slowly so she would not frighten Fawn.

Deer noticed Carl Coyote trying to sneak up on Fawn. She waited until Coyote crawled very near Fawn. Coyote crouched down, tensed his muscles, and sprang toward Fawn. Deer snorted loudly. Quickly, Fawn jumped toward her and began running away as fast as he could.

Coyote's face registered his surprised shock as he went SPLASH! He overshot the spot where he intended to land on Fawn and landed in the shallows of Beaver Pond. Coyote thrashed and splashed in the shallows. He screamed loudly, "I'm drowning, I'm drowning!"

Freddie Frog felt and heard all the commotion from Coyote. He hopped across three of his favorite lily pads toward Coyote. Frog gathered as much air as possible into his lungs. He let out a bellow, "Harrumph, Coyote!"

Coyote immediately stopped thrashing and splashing because he was so surprised. He called out, "Who called my name?"

Frog called out, "I, Freddie Frog, called your name, Coyote. You are making a fool of yourself. You are NOT drowning."

Coyote replied, "Frog, you can't make a fool of me. I'll catch you."

Frog shot back, "Coyote, I doubt that. Try it."

Coyote suddenly whirled and jumped toward Frog. Frog easily jumped across two lily pads. Frog heard another loud SPLASH as Coyote missed again and splashed into the shallow water.

Fawn and Deer dashed a safe distance away and turned to watch Coyote and Frog. Deer shook her head and remarked to Fawn, "Son, Coyote just doesn't learn very easily."

Fawn asked, "What should Coyote learn?"

Deer answered, "Coyote needs to learn some different ways of treating others and us. He keeps repeating his ways of trying to surprise and even hurt most everyone."

Deer and Fawn didn't see Eagle at first. She listened to Deer and finally called to her, "Excuse me, Deer. I'd like to join Fawn and you."

Deer said, "Please join us. You have much to say, and I'd like to hear your words."

Fawn raised his hoof and stamped it. He eagerly said, "Me, too! Me, too! I want to grow up quickly. How do I grow up?"

Eagle landed on a tree near Deer and Fawn. She said, "Fawn, you asked a great question. Let's explore your question and Coyote's experience. They both relate to growth."

Deer smiled gently and said, "Eagle, welcome. I would like to talk with you. Son, what would you like?"

Fawn stamped his tiny hoof again and repeated, "I'm eager to grow up. I want to know all about that!"

Deer and Eagle smiled at Fawn. Deer said, "Son, you will grow up quickly enough. Eagle and I will help you know more about growing up inside yourself."

Deer, Eagle, and Fawn didn't notice Frog. He hopped to within ear shot of the three. He called out, "Harrumph, harrumph! Hi, Everyone."

Deer, Eagle, and Fawn greeted Frog, "Hi, Frog. We're glad to see you. Would you like to join us? We're going to talk about growing up."

Frog smiled broadly and nodded his head. He said, "That's a great topic. I know we always grow."

Fawn looked very puzzled and questioned, "How can all of you grow anymore? You're all BIG people."

Eagle smiled again and replied, "Fawn, growth is much more than getting taller, stronger, and older. Growing up means knowing how you feel and think. Growing up means taking responsibility for how you get along with others and yourself."

Fawn looked confused as he said, "WOW! That sounds REALLY hard!"

Frog observed, "Growing up can be hard if you fight change. Growing up easily means you know how you are feeling, thinking, talking, and behaving."

Fawn gamboled around Deer, Frog, and Eagle. He said, "I know I'm feeling very happy. Am I talking and behaving happily?"

Deer, Frog, and Eagle smiled broadly again at the playfulness of Fawn. They greatly enjoyed him. Deer assured him, "Son, you talk and behave very happily. You bring much joy to us."

Deer, Frog, Eagle, and Fawn heard a sudden CRASH and a loud YELP! Eagle quickly said, "Please stay here. I'll go see what Coyote got into now. I can fly much faster than any of you can move on the ground. I will also remain very safe."

Deer, Fawn, and Frog nodded, so Eagle swiftly launched herself and found an updraft wind that shot her up into the sky. Eagle leveled out her flight and quickly spotted Coyote.

Coyote was yipping and screaming in the middle of a huge pile of briers and thorn vines. He spotted Eagle circling overhead and screamed, "Help, help! The Rabbits got me!"

Eagle glided lower and landed on a nearby tree branch. She saw Grandfather Randy Rabbit. She called to Grandfather Rabbit, "What is going on here?"

Grandfather Rabbit's ears wiggled and nose twitched as he grinned at the problem of Coyote. Grandfather Rabbit explained to Eagle, "Coyote chased us once too often. We piled all the thorn bushes and briers in one pile. Coyote tried to chase us. We all appeared and yelled for him to get us. He tried, but we disappeared into the pile of brush. Coyote dived into the middle of the pile trying to reach us. He caught himself instead."

Eagle started laughing so hard she almost fell out of the tree. She finally calmed down enough to ask, "Grandfather Rabbit, do you think we should help Coyote? He has a hard time learning lessons about chasing us."

"HELP ME! HELP ME!" yipped Coyote. "I promise I'll not chase any of you anymore."

Grandfather Rabbit looked around at his many Rabbit relatives who suddenly appeared. They all started laughing at Coyote's predicament. Grandfather Rabbit asked them, "Do you think Coyote has had enough of the briers and thorns?"

Everyone nodded his or her head, so Grandfather Rabbit told Eagle, "We will release Coyote on one condition. He needs to learn about permanently changing the way he treats all of us."

Eagle responded, "Very well, Grandfather Rabbit. I agree with you. However, the decision belongs to Coyote. Coyote, will you join us as we talk about growth?"

Coyote yelled, "Yes, just free me please."

Grandfather Rabbit nodded his head, and ten Rabbits dived into the brush pile. They quickly pulled aside the branches holding Coyote.

Coyote limped out of the briers and thorns. He carefully checked his forelegs and hind legs. He said to no one in particular, "Everything works. I just have a few patches torn out of my hide from the briers and thorns. Okay, Eagle, where do we go for our talk?"

Eagle answered, "Coyote follow me. You will meet Deer, Fawn, and Frog. Don't worry. They will cooperate and not try to hurt you. Are you ready to take a long and hard look at yourself?"

Coyote answered, "I, ah, guess so. This will not be either easy or fun."

Eagle commented, "It is as easy as you wish for yourself, Coyote. Honesty with you is the first step of growth."

Coyote slowly gulped and nodded. He trotted along as Eagle flew ahead to tell their friends about Coyote.

Coyote slowed his pace as he approached Frog, Deer, and Fawn. He hung his head and said when he reached them. Coyote said, "I'm, uh, ..., I'm sorry for trying to catch you, Frog and Fawn."

Fawn asked, "Why is Coyote so sad?"

Eagle strongly suggested, "Coyote, please answer Fawn."

Coyote replied, "Fawn, I don't like myself when I remember how I scared Frog, some Rabbits, and you."

Fawn slowly thought about Coyote's explanation. He replied, "Are you going to keep remembering about not trying to catch us?"

A Rabbit spoke up. "He'd better keep remembering, or he will be in even more trouble."

Fawn looked puzzled and confused. He questioned, "Can Coyote ever be happy if he always has sad and hurtful thoughts?"

Frog answered Fawn, "You ask very powerful questions for one so young. Coyote needs to let go of his sad and hurtful thoughts. He needs to replace them with helpful, loving, and happy thoughts."

Coyote shot a comment, "Thanks for telling me what I need to think. I see your point though. Is this part of growth?"

Frog, Eagle, and Deer said nothing but vigorously nodded their heads.

"I bring the opportunities for change through growth," said Frog. "This requires leaving behind thoughts about feeling bad, sad, and mad. If you think you can't do this, you stay the same. Your beliefs about yourself make your world."

Coyote scratched his side and then his head. He had fleas in his side and confusion in his head. He scrunched his face up hard as he thought about the comments from Frog.

Coyote relaxed and gave a HUGE Coyote triumphant howl. He said, "I've got it! When I change how I believe, I change how I live. All my Coyote mothers and fathers for many generations were best when they cared for others and themselves. They were happiest."

Eagle asked Coyote, "What did you learn today?"

Coyote replied, "My beliefs and thoughts didn't help anyone, including myself. I discovered I have faith in myself to change my thoughts, talk, and behavior. I know I have the ability to change my thoughts."

Eagle asked, "Deer, Frog, and Rabbit, what do you think?"

Deer, Frog, and Rabbit shouted, "CONGRATULATIONS, COYOTE!!!"

Coyote blushed but looked very pleased.

Fawn asked, "Mommy, did I just learn about growth inside myself?"

Deer, Frog, and Eagle moved over to Fawn and gave him a BIG hug together.

Deer simply answered her son, "Yes, Fawn, yes."

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Edited by Arhimaniac - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Doods Loved your decoding based on fairy tales...The way you are Giving an effort to decode the Serial with such interest and dedication For us..I really Thought god For the regular Viewers they can execute the Track in a meaning full way..thought the story is stagnant .

i really loved your effort on decoding the track..👏 👏..Hope from Monday onwards they won't disappoint as Much.

@Anna Hugzz to you darling ..i loved the way you raised the Question Of how the hell a 23 year Old girl commit Suicide for her Husband who is not even bothered for her marriage and leaving her in 6 months...that is hasty marriage...How SP allowed to show this..a lead character committing suicide for what a sadistic Husband who married her forcibly with out stating reason..i really lost hopes on PH ..
she is 23 yrs..she feels responsibility to her family..she is working to help her family Dabba Business..Her father mother everyone Loves her..why she decided to Die..❓..

I have lot of hopes on kushi's Character..i hate when People commit Suicide on some silly reasons..i have a friend at school she is Good at studies but unfortunately She failed in physics ,it was new syllabus For Us and our physics teacher was not that good teaching..So she got failed..

But she joined a the college in summer itself to get a seat at engineering college after inter..its residential college ,her parents saw her result and told her that she passed the exam..
so that they can go for revaluation to ask for grace marks..But their attempts failed ..parents took her to the home suddenly before 10 days of supplementary exams.. when she was informed that she got failed she simply attempted suicide ..From than i hate listening such things..

i feel what ever happens in the life we have to face it and one day we will get success..

what PH and Sp want to show us i didn't get it..But children will get effected by such messages..

i am totally against of it.
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