IP REDUX ; 36 *Updated* - Page 18

Originally posted by: tanthya

Hi All,

What can I say about the episode, Y'day while chatting with Doods, I said that teh episode made 'Strange sense ' in exactly what whay, I would not have been to say then bec I needed to absorb the essence of it..But I knew without a doubt that it was not about the Humors , I felt underlying it was a serious tone , and the Cv's had strewn the episode with clues, lots of clues.. it was up to us to decode it..

First was the dialogues of Arnav n his action which was out of pattern ,second was the crime patrol sequence aired in TV , third was the strange dialogues of Akash while playing chess , Again why play chess at all !! why not ludo, sudoku or some computer games..why the ancient Chess .. this was my questions ...It is when I begun to focus on the Chess and Akash , could I see my way through this minefield of clues which could send out wrong pattern if not arranged carefully !!..This is when I realized that this was the bugle call for the upcoming war and the chess board confirmed it as did the 36 !!


THE PROLOGUE


Khushi wakes up in the morning to the news that there have been cases of husbands murdering their first wife and then getting hitched to their true love !!

Lets not get side tracked into thinking that this relates to Khushi's idiocy , her OTT acts ...No this segment actually gives us the short succinct story so far or the prologue till now , about a marriage union which is not of equal social standing ... Who is the first wife who is in the imminent danger of being removed from the picture...IS it Khushi ?? definitely Not !! for she has already been served a notice of 6 months and has got her marching orders to leave after serving her time, So killing her or removing her will not make sense ...SO who else is the wife here...Payal !! The two old world lovers are still in the Honey Moon phase and Payal is not under any threat of removal ..Who then is left..ANJALI !!...


When You think of Anjali and begin to co relate Kamlesh Khabri's words things will begin to make sense ... Yes, A first wife is being in the process of removed by Shyam , who then can marry his lover Khushi !! he is baulked bec the kundli is not matching , bec they are not on same page as Khushi clearly has said that she will never marry a married man so his first priority will be to secure the riches and then clear the Kundli by getting himself rid of his wife ...He believes that this will clear his path to Khushi ...BUT he has not reckoned on Arnav !! A Arnav who is not talking to Khushii , Who is not letting her into his strategy 'Par saaye ki tarah aas paas Ghoom rahen hai 'It is Arnav who has finally held on to Khushi's hand, accepted her into his domain and has turned her protector..It is he who pulls Khushi away from FIRE [shyam] , when she gets dangerously close to it .

So here we have the pieces , Anjali in danger of being removed from the picture so that Shyam can Marry Khushi and Arnav who is the Knight [ Doodsie's input ] will rush to the rescue of the maiden and also be the fortress preventing Access to Shyam.


THE NEXT STEP ;

A worried Khushi , understanding that the set picture has changed , unnerved by the change in Arnav , begins to probe, and she lights up on a diary , A personal diary of Arnav where there is a mention of AR 36 K with K crossed out n in a circle . !!


Honestly speaking, I realized that 36 was significant [hence the title] but for the life of me I could not deduce what it meant since I had never come across it..I was left pondering about the symbolization of 36 , digging through , I first realized my mistake when I realized that I should not be searching for ' THIRTY SIX " but for ' CHATTIS " .. Notice the fact that even the Harvard Grad does not say 36 hours but says Chattis Ghante ..So the clue lay in the Hindi Meaning and not in the number itself !! Armed with this thought I went about finding the truth ..where to my startling surprise , I realized that in Devanagari script , 36 stands for two people with their backs to one another ...This would easily translate into Arnav & Khushi who are always at polar ends , who always look in the opposite direction , How does this fit into the over all picture... SO I dug in further when to my utter delight , I realized that there is another meaning attached to it ... 36 also stands for BATTLE !! .. 36 means we are going to play with our entire force , remember the game of dice in Mahabharat , Shakuni wins that game of dice by deceit , but lets focus on the dice, i is two dice, when the dice is rolled out together, 6 x 6 will give 36 , its maximum value ! but note that the Dice also set the tone for the battle between the righteous and the unjust !!


Now lets jump to the game of Chess !.. we find Akash and Bubbli playing Chess ...this was the clincher for me , This was nail which proved that Battle will start !!

Before we begin , lets look at the origin of chess board, Chess originated in 6th century AD ..In those times, The Indian King believed that war was the most effective school to learn the values of valor, decision-making, endurance, circumspection and bravery. Because of this it is believed that war was chosen as the model of the game.

When we realize that the Chess stood for war games , then we can understand why CHESS was played particularly in this episode and not any other Kiddy games !!


PAYAL Wiping the Mirror , whilst talking to the Gupta's !!

I found this quite interesting , Why you may ask, It is bec of the preceding scene..The preceding scene provides a new meaning to Payal's wiping the Mirror, clearing the surface, sharpening the reflection ...What was the previous scene that precedes it...Khushi anxiously saying that Arnav will remove her from the scene , that she is being cast away ..suggesting that Khushi's mind is still wrapped in misunderstanding but pretty soon this too will be cleared, the clouded vision of Khushi's will be cleaned and her misconception cleared soo !!


Suraj aaj PASHCHIM se Nikhla hai !!

A few days Back , there was a REDUX based on direction's where Arnav was placed in the North and Khushi was in the West, I and Doodsie had given our interpretation where both had agreed on the cardinal meaning of the North and west !!.. It was mentioned clearly that according to Native Americans [Lakota] ..West stood for conclusion , of fullness , of enlightenment ...What do we see today, Arnav who is in the dark, rises and approaches the window, facing the light , he then turns towards Khushi, the west, the place where he will find his answers, reach a conclusion and complete the circle..


Hum Milkar Usse Raaste se hatayenge ...

Obvious conclusion esp after Arnav accepted the hand of Khushi , making her his partner , his equal ..So no need for explaining it further !!



Bakariyaa ..This was the term used twice on Khushi , Once By Buaji n once by Kamlesh Khabri !! ..why the emphasis on Bakriyya or Bakri !!

The Bakri or the Goat is the Symbol that is often found in armory !! Goats also stand for independence and is a symbol of practical wisdom ..Goats are insatiably curious and inquisitive ..they will poke and prod and nose into other peoples things ..Goats are also intelligent , They are sturdy , have the ability to bounce back , They have the ability to remain aloof even in a crowd that's they have the ability to cover their inner thoughts ..But above all this , The Goat has also stood for another characteristics, 'Sacrifice" a word has been formed based just on Goat 'Scape Goat'

Scape Goat is a term that originated from Hebrew ..People would cast their sins on this innocent animal and cast it out in the wilderness ..will Khushi be the sacrificial Goat who will have to bear the Sins of Shyam for the marital bliss of Anjali, Will she be cast out in the wilderness ..

This episode was all about the clarion call to the war, a gathering of forces, Preparation to the launch of first offensive !! ..

Originally posted by: .Mandy.

I don't see the point of Mami and Payal's scenes either, it doesn't make any sense and I wish the CVs would find a better way to utilize the rest of their cast. I love Mami but this storyline is pointless

Exactly Anna, Khushi had her doubts as she knows Arnav doesn't believe in those things but sadly what she overheard just put those fears back in place. Feel sorry for her but this is a good thing as more and more Arnav is realizing just how much his actions have affected Khushi.

Originally posted by: soap-critic

@ Pam nice take on Arnav's guilt and the way he was holding her hand.

@ Anna - wah kya baat hain - today you are in Khushi's camp. I also a know a lot of folks who believe in the Manglik dosh and get a first marraige done to a tree, a goat or a matka.

@ Sul, Riya, Nia and Ritz - nice analysis by all of your

Originally posted by: doodleberry

Oh Aisa hain kya??? hahaha naa I think Star is damaging them a lot so, I wanna join the root and solve the issues... What Star is not getting that all the other serials don't have their story telling in this typical manner and so, 4 Lions to be handled properly...

and 4 Lions don't know their strengths and not able to cash in... here is the problem.

Originally posted by: slmu

Sathya, 🤗 it is only after reading yours, doods and others analysis that dunderheads like me make sense of the episode. Thanks so much. Finally understood the import of the 36.

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Yes - in the past 9 months! But for Khushi Arnav Has changed in the past 3 months! He is the shaitaan - subconsciously she knows that Arnav is her protector - subconsciously she also knows that he is the love of her life - but do they ever show it except for tids and pieces!? The whole projection was wrong definitely - did not even give the right message. But look at Khushi's condition - she thinks that Arnav hates her and is in this relationship forcefully and the marriage is still a confusion- Arnav's behavior changed suddenly out of the blue - his convo with Lavanya - She did give him the benefit of doubt - that is why she followed Arnav into the room but the call with La was taken on face value. Moreso - Lavanya and Arnav never came out with why they broke up - It was just left out!

And finally Madame Khushi Kumari Gupta did not use her brain as usual and reached a conclusion! 😆

Originally posted by: tanthya

Hi All,

What can I say about the episode, Y'day while chatting with Doods, I said that teh episode made 'Strange sense ' in exactly what whay, I would not have been to say then bec I needed to absorb the essence of it..But I knew without a doubt that it was not about the Humors , I felt underlying it was a serious tone , and the Cv's had strewn the episode with clues, lots of clues.. it was up to us to decode it..

First was the dialogues of Arnav n his action which was out of pattern ,second was the crime patrol sequence aired in TV , third was the strange dialogues of Akash while playing chess , Again why play chess at all !! why not ludo, sudoku or some computer games..why the ancient Chess .. this was my questions ...It is when I begun to focus on the Chess and Akash , could I see my way through this minefield of clues which could send out wrong pattern if not arranged carefully !!..This is when I realized that this was the bugle call for the upcoming war and the chess board confirmed it as did the 36 !!


THE PROLOGUE


Khushi wakes up in the morning to the news that there have been cases of husbands murdering their first wife and then getting hitched to their true love !!

Lets not get side tracked into thinking that this relates to Khushi's idiocy , her OTT acts ...No this segment actually gives us the short succinct story so far or the prologue till now , about a marriage union which is not of equal social standing ... Who is the first wife who is in the imminent danger of being removed from the picture...IS it Khushi ?? definitely Not !! for she has already been served a notice of 6 months and has got her marching orders to leave after serving her time, So killing her or removing her will not make sense ...SO who else is the wife here...Payal !! The two old world lovers are still in the Honey Moon phase and Payal is not under any threat of removal ..Who then is left..ANJALI !!...


When You think of Anjali and begin to co relate Kamlesh Khabri's words things will begin to make sense ... Yes, A first wife is being in the process of removed by Shyam , who then can marry his lover Khushi !! he is baulked bec the kundli is not matching , bec they are not on same page as Khushi clearly has said that she will never marry a married man so his first priority will be to secure the riches and then clear the Kundli by getting himself rid of his wife ...He believes that this will clear his path to Khushi ...BUT he has not reckoned on Arnav !! A Arnav who is not talking to Khushii , Who is not letting her into his strategy 'Par saaye ki tarah aas paas Ghoom rahen hai 'It is Arnav who has finally held on to Khushi's hand, accepted her into his domain and has turned her protector..It is he who pulls Khushi away from FIRE [shyam] , when she gets dangerously close to it .

So here we have the pieces , Anjali in danger of being removed from the picture so that Shyam can Marry Khushi and Arnav who is the Knight [ Doodsie's input ] will rush to the rescue of the maiden and also be the fortress preventing Access to Shyam.


THE NEXT STEP ;

A worried Khushi , understanding that the set picture has changed , unnerved by the change in Arnav , begins to probe, and she lights up on a diary , A personal diary of Arnav where there is a mention of AR 36 K with K crossed out n in a circle . !!


Honestly speaking, I realized that 36 was significant [hence the title] but for the life of me I could not deduce what it meant since I had never come across it..I was left pondering about the symbolization of 36 , digging through , I first realized my mistake when I realized that I should not be searching for ' THIRTY SIX " but for ' CHATTIS " .. Notice the fact that even the Harvard Grad does not say 36 hours but says Chattis Ghante ..So the clue lay in the Hindi Meaning and not in the number itself !! Armed with this thought I went about finding the truth ..where to my startling surprise , I realized that in Devanagari script , 36 stands for two people with their backs to one another ...This would easily translate into Arnav & Khushi who are always at polar ends , who always look in the opposite direction , How does this fit into the over all picture... SO I dug in further when to my utter delight , I realized that there is another meaning attached to it ... 36 also stands for BATTLE !! .. 36 means we are going to play with our entire force , remember the game of dice in Mahabharat , Shakuni wins that game of dice by deceit , but lets focus on the dice, i is two dice, when the dice is rolled out together, 6 x 6 will give 36 , its maximum value ! but note that the Dice also set the tone for the battle between the righteous and the unjust !!


Now lets jump to the game of Chess !.. we find Akash and Bubbli playing Chess ...this was the clincher for me , This was nail which proved that Battle will start !!

Before we begin , lets look at the origin of chess board, Chess originated in 6th century AD ..In those times, The Indian King believed that war was the most effective school to learn the values of valor, decision-making, endurance, circumspection and bravery. Because of this it is believed that war was chosen as the model of the game.

When we realize that the Chess stood for war games , then we can understand why CHESS was played particularly in this episode and not any other Kiddy games !!


PAYAL Wiping the Mirror , whilst talking to the Gupta's !!

I found this quite interesting , Why you may ask, It is bec of the preceding scene..The preceding scene provides a new meaning to Payal's wiping the Mirror, clearing the surface, sharpening the reflection ...What was the previous scene that precedes it...Khushi anxiously saying that Arnav will remove her from the scene , that she is being cast away ..suggesting that Khushi's mind is still wrapped in misunderstanding but pretty soon this too will be cleared, the clouded vision of Khushi's will be cleaned and her misconception cleared soo !!


Suraj aaj PASHCHIM se Nikhla hai !!

A few days Back , there was a REDUX based on direction's where Arnav was placed in the North and Khushi was in the West, I and Doodsie had given our interpretation where both had agreed on the cardinal meaning of the North and west !!.. It was mentioned clearly that according to Native Americans [Lakota] ..West stood for conclusion , of fullness , of enlightenment ...What do we see today, Arnav who is in the dark, rises and approaches the window, facing the light , he then turns towards Khushi, the west, the place where he will find his answers, reach a conclusion and complete the circle..


Hum Milkar Usse Raaste se hatayenge ...

Obvious conclusion esp after Arnav accepted the hand of Khushi , making her his partner , his equal ..So no need for explaining it further !!



Bakariyaa ..This was the term used twice on Khushi , Once By Buaji n once by Kamlesh Khabri !! ..why the emphasis on Bakriyya or Bakri !!

The Bakri or the Goat is the Symbol that is often found in armory !! Goats also stand for independence and is a symbol of practical wisdom ..Goats are insatiably curious and inquisitive ..they will poke and prod and nose into other peoples things ..Goats are also intelligent , They are sturdy , have the ability to bounce back , They have the ability to remain aloof even in a crowd that's they have the ability to cover their inner thoughts ..But above all this , The Goat has also stood for another characteristics, 'Sacrifice" a word has been formed based just on Goat 'Scape Goat'

Scape Goat is a term that originated from Hebrew ..People would cast their sins on this innocent animal and cast it out in the wilderness ..will Khushi be the sacrificial Goat who will have to bear the Sins of Shyam for the marital bliss of Anjali, Will she be cast out in the wilderness ..

This episode was all about the clarion call to the war, a gathering of forces, Preparation to the launch of first offensive !! ..

Originally posted by: doodleberry

Vasi I will read... and Thanks hun... how was your birthday??? Howz Hyderabad??