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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hello 😊
Another fantastic episode👏👏...purely because of the transition between the two primary characters. The so called "dil" who increasingly is developing a "revenge oriented dimaag"...and the arrogant "dimaag", who at the end of the day is the "real dil" over here.
Today several paisa vasool dialogues were spoken..."asli zindagi"😊...Alrite then ...asli zindagi indeed...and some asli seekh (lessons) from the asli zindagi😊
a) Apni hi paani mein pighal jaana, baraf ka mukaddar hota hai
Meaning: What is your destiny...will be😳
I felt the Rabba Ve today was very poignant.😊 To me it highlighted the plight of two irrational, egoistic and frankly cluless individuals who know what is the right thing to do...who know that they do care about each other...is but who are too busy in their self created bubbles to make a decent realistic honest effort.
Creatives, I don't understand symbolism. Maybe I am a very unintelligent person.... But I have a heart that beats and a mind that thinks and unfortunately or fortunately, I live in a world that has experienced these emotions before... Creative team, there is no point in finding symbolism in clothes, postures, camera angles, cutlery and words...when the hearts are aching for love and the eyes speak it in volumes.😳
In the real world we ache when we love till we express or receive it, we make an effort to say when we love, we kiss, we embrace, we converse, we listen, we sort out issues...we give it all that we have in our being...and we do all of this because we love, we care😊...we don't wait for the wind to blow, leaves to fall, shadows to extend, people to comment...and sigh...and then do something that a 5 year old wont do when faced with critical situations in life...become either a comedian😳...or a petulant adult.
As for ASR and Khushi...do yourselves a favor...converse please😊...an adult mature sensible conversation between an 18++ and a 28++ individual...After that ...either make up...or please separate and go your individual ways... Either ways release each other from this merry go round of dhak dhaks, stares and falls...because this now seems like a crude joke you guys yourselves are making of your love...and there is nothing funny or passionate about it. 😳
b) Ab pachtaaye hot' kya jab chidiya chug gayi khet
Meaning: Why repent when the action is done.
Exactly what was Khushi expecting to happpen when ASR lands in Gupta house? A docile "haanji" damaad?😕... To be fair, his behaviour in the Wednesday episode was quite better than expected. So why feel offended now when he did exactly what he was expected to do... which is have his way.
This is not about ASR being justified or not...this is about whether Khushi knows that she now has in a effectively compromised the very people whose plight and pride she was so eager to protect through her fake marriage...her parents😳.
And the sad part is she manipulated the parents into bringing this upon themselves.
This is exactly what I was mentioning yesterday...the difference between the so called "dil"...and the "without any dil" person. So Khushi, yesterday you manipulated your parents' innocent and earnest simplistic dream of extending hospitality to their son-in-law. Now when their self respect is compromised...why repent?😳
c) Karbooje ko dekhar kharbooja rang badal deta hai
So Khushi...please do yourself a favor...tune in to IF...watch the brilliant videos that our dear member Nipun 👏👏👏...uploads and watch yourself throw things around...grimace...throw up a fit, issue challenges of revenge, etc etc...with the only aim to teach a lesson because one chess move didnt go as per your plan.
Then go and watch the actions of a man dressed in white tee and black tracksuit.
And you will realise...that you have now slowly acquired the traits of the person you so hate and despise...Arnav Singh Raizada.😳
Sigh!...
And on the other hand...the guy you so despise...is now making an effort to get along with a lot of things...because you are so very important to him at the end of the day...because lets make no mistake...Arnav Singh Raizada is not there in Gupta House because Anjali asked him to go...no...no...no...it will take an ASR one second to shut up Anjali and stay put in RM.
He is there because ...whether he admits it or not...you are the prima focus of his life...and consciously or sub-consciously...this is a marriage and love that is important to him😳
Sigh!
d) Saanch ko aanch kya
Meaning: What is true does not need proof
Ok Creatives, so we know Khushi is innocent with a compassionate heart
We know ASR is a tough exterior with heart of Gold
We know ASR loves Khushi to death
We know Khushi cares about ASR
We know they both love their families
We know all of the above...
So now we want to know what else...Shyam revelation, MU, Aksah Payal creating babies, Mami learing English with a British accent, Anjali not giggling in every situation, effects of holding soap for 3 hours in your hand😆😆😆
Please whoever is the captain of this ship...something else now😆😆😆😆
PS:
Barun and Sanaya, the acting is great👏👏👏👏...and frankly you guys do look great too😃
So thank you...for time and again...bringing levity and credibility to this product.
Great day/ evening
JW😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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great post again JW...agree with you...cv's we do have a MU in our serial dont we??

Edited by arsh_sp - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wow...this is seriously a very honest post of the episode we saw today. The 3 segments were very well written with so much attention to every scene with a awesome touch of reality..
I personally loved your analysis and thank you soo much for sharing this...
Great job once again...👏

The effects of holding the soap for 3 hrs in your hand...🤣

Edited by Soloperson - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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J dear🤗

I won't say I liked the epi but the Rabba Ve was poignant one as u said, the true blessings for a mockery of a marriage , if only the story traveled on dat line instead of who teaches a lesson n who learns...my hope with this diminishing wid every passing day...

Like I said earlier, when two extremes try 2 pull the other to their end, lot of things can happen...they shud learn 2 meet half-way...but my problem s the execution, why slapstick shud b the only way 2 achieve it?

On one hand v hav an adult of 18-20 years throwing child tantrum throwing towels here n there, while a 9 year old getting insecure over a husband - wife relationship...Ufff!

.when the hearts are aching for love and the eyes speak it in volumes.😳

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

And yes, strday it was she who mocked their concern for their Damaad, why repent when she brought this on herself? Like ASR brought "Doop Suhanaa lalalala" on himself, this was brought by herself...I agree dat wat he did was wrong, he shud hav sought permission b4 doing dat..but she din't do dat for her dabba business too...but since its SP dat wil b justified , while this cannot b ... hence dat "haaan bohut khoob" from nani!

And is facing the life of middle class is the only truth dat one needs know? Some reality check?!

Like rich-poor, there s also something called good-bad, truth-lie, trust-mistrust...don't they come under Asli duniya? hiding everything under carpet and assuring oneself dat everything will b alright ...also comes under living in a bubble!

And oh! I loved all ur underlined portions...J! thou art gr8!

p.s- Thnx for the spl compliments on pg 3...Awww! aap mujhe bohut sharminda kar rahe hain...blush blush!

Edited by cindrella255 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arsh_sp




great post again JW...agree with you...cv's we do have a MU in our serial dont we??


Seriously I really dig your brain to heart " diagram" ...loved it...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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JW awesome post👏 And sorry i dint get bck to ur post yest but u know i lub what ever u write even a Hi or Bye 😳😆
I will be honest i dont have much hope with the creatives, and u knw it i hv lost interest already.

I would just like to point out few things to CVs before i say about yest epi.

The execution and the way of story telling need to be take care of. More than 70% of them would not go symbolism, a general audience wud never do that coz this would be 1 of the show from other few shows they would be watching, why would they sit and brainstorm.


Attention should be paid to Kushi's characterization, right now i dont feel her pain or understand what she is going through, i just assume that yes she has suffered that so she might be feeling so and so, NO! i dont wanto assume i rather would wanto feel her part of pain or whatever she is going through so that i can relate to her part of story as well.

Poor Vs Rich family moodhikaei.. Hmm why always make a contrast like this?? Reminded me of desi Vs videshi party hijack today.
How many poor families will not have mean people ?? Its all in one's environment and brought up Not necessary that all rich people are mean.
Raizadas are modern, i havent seen them asking Kushi or Payal change their life style for them, they support their bahu's alot. Actually they support and respect everything that Kushi wants to pursue. They have no restrictions their.

I personally thought this was glorified and it wasnt required.

About asli zindagi,
Its not that only poor know how the real world works , poor or rich everyone has their own real things to tackle and live with, they have their own troubles and ways to make their living.

Now getting back to the epi.

I liked
the Garima, Bua, and Arnav moment when AC is bought home. Garima and Bua kept khushi out of this and handled the situation, actually tried to understood from his point of view. Though they felt bad they dint show it to him, they let it go as what mattered to them was his happiness and him being comfortable, Very nice.
Arnav always does what he feels is right, so after living with them for some time, he will know where he was wrong and he will amend by it.

Toiletries nothing wrong in carrying them, everyone carries their own things. But AC part was insensitive. His intention wasnt to hurt them but they did get hurt. He has come a long way though.
Arnav has his learning to do. First act then realize will make him learn things.


Kushi also should see the real world, she needs to come out of her dreamland or fantasy world and see the real world. She needs to come out of all delusions, and learn that everything and everyone in this world arent good, every issue cannot be solved by hiding pain or by faking smile or happiness, everything doesnt run as per dil. With time one needs to mature and learn, one cant brush of every instant by hiding pain rather they need to evolve and learn better, Things will not fix by themselves.

Arnav views everything as loss and gain, he has no faith in people's goodness , his past has made him not to trust people , has left a un attended scar in him about relationships, money, goodness , love, trust.

Let them teach each other what they lack and grow with time.

Kushi needs to know
Arnav is a self made man he is, he dint get things in silver platter, he and his sis were thrown out , she will know what makes this man when she learns his truth and past. How he has struggled to reach to a place where he is now, he has had his part of struggles to reach where he is now

Arnav needs to know behind her cheerful smile she hides all her pain, how she deals with life and situations, he needs to know her way of seeing world and people and how naive she gets while she believes people.

Both learning about asli zindagi through each other.

This track, might help Arnav also to know what is her life going to be after 6 months, how will she face the society . What all she will have to go through.

The turn that they gave each other after 7 birth's blessing to stay with each other , nice scene.

Kushi feeling bad that her family felt bad coz of Arnav's action. What was it that she did yesterday?? Her act also hurt her family difference is she did it with a touch of smile and cuteness . She also needs to know the she hurt her family in the intention of irritating him.

Nothing wrong in getting ones toileteries, i think everyone carries their own toileteries, soap, brush, towel. I think even Kushi carried those to RM, so i quiet dint get GH ppl expressions their. For AC i understand.

1 AC on and load shed for whole colony, which part of the Delhi are they living?

And i really learning, growing, repenting, loving, caring, everything will be shown from both Arnav and Kushi and not be only on Arnav's side


Edited by Ankifan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi JW
had to go quickly and get a peek of the show b4 trying to comprehen..your post...
how do real people live?...I dont get that so the v rich and the v poor are not real people...we now have a defintion for 'real' people...done with what is "Indian' values...what is 'good'..now this...so youve got to be a churidaar wearing...happy go luck..indian values ie rituals reeti rivass following person to be inthe real world...keeping up apearances me thinks...what ever that appearance is inyour mind...
I dont know about DIL or Dimaag...whatever it is they are trying to potray it is missing its mark...it is just appearing as tho bothe are minus the two...
Khushi is a woman belittled, and held captive against her will...she was falling in love and then her object of affection became her imprisoner...she sees he is hurt by her and has enough left in her (me I would be simply mad and hitting back) to see that he is doing it from a place of hurt...
then where goes the plot...
ASR was just being that ASR I dont see anything different...could he be a lil bit more aware or more atuned to the othes feelings ...yep but then would that make him ASR then...
I dont see why the need for removing a stereo type he has in his mind...what is the need for khushi to do that...that is for people of leisure...for people who have a lifetime of togetherness to argue the values of each other...to defend each others good and bad who have invested interest in each other...as far as I know the lady needs to be putting effort in either understanding her situation , getting out of it..or planning the inevitable after 6mnths...not making it worse for her family by parading the good catch that got away...
Ok lets say she is teaching him the irrationality of his stereo type,,,,,how does she do it ,,,by giving him evidence to it...the rats will eat your hair...this is like me admitting that I swung on trees to get to school when baloo was not around and elephants were only for the elite...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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JW an honest and objective view of the serial and where it is headed(currently not anywhere) v/s where we fans would love it to go.I enjoyed my entertainment of 20 mins today but it did not leave me with an excitement for not missing tomorrow's episode which used to happen earlier. But I am looking forward to read your take on tomorrow's episode. Ek sach IF visit karne ka yeh bhi hai😉.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Superbly put JW 👏

Cv's have forgotten the kushi they had shown 9 months back. this one acts like a little kid & what's up with this new habit of throwing things around & she is doing every thing for revenge .. wow !!! she is becoming a lady governor 😆 ..

Does 'nt the gupta household have a fan 😲 ..

I dont understand what the CV's are trying to achieve in this track , kushi wants to show the real world to arnav , but what she does not know that he has worked hard to get to where he is today & he also must have faced difficult times.

Frankly i did not find anything wrong in him bringing his own toiletries & fixing AC ..

I loved your yesterday's post too , i did not get time to comment on it 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Res -- have yet to watch the epi

EDIT:

JW!! Awesome post as always.

Watched epi. Mixed feelings. The only scene that I really found appealing was the wistful rabba ve when they were wished an eternity together. I thought that scene was poignant. It was in the middle of a patchy track...but it still stood out for me.

I have hopes for this track. Something should move...if not MU clearing than their relationship should move. They both need to understand the other's POV. And for this reason it is important to give them a peek into each other's past. If this track is to make him understand Khushi, her environment then it is as important for her to understand his. He has seen reduced circumstances, he has seen struggle. Now, with this PH's track record of poor to pathetic execution, I am not sure how they will achieve this.

That being said, I have hopes!!!

Again, awesome post!!

Edited by mommy2000 - 13 years ago

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