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Originally posted by: shena07

😆that was funny and i think u r the first one to say khushi is seeking revenge...

Originally posted by: LoveChotte

awesome post tanthya...u r so talented; I love love love the way u write

Originally posted by: tanthya

How is she seeking revenge ??.. How her escape from an unwanted matrimony becomes revenge ??

She was given a choice and she did make a choice of not marrying but Arnav painted the dreary picture of the life Payal will lead..Already a guilt ridden Khushi who was held responsible for Payal's marriage acceded to go thru this sham ...

Originally posted by: tanthya

I think You shud read the full convo to get the gist and not jump to conclusion ...

Originally posted by: Arhimaniac

Sathu,doods and Pam...hello hi...hug do bhai...🤗

Hi Bush !!

Sathu what a wonderful description of Khushi's plight, her state of mind before and after...brilliant as usual.👏..if from tomorrow onwards you just see a smiley face and no comments in my post...please understand it means that I am trying not to sound like a broken record and have run out of adjectives to describe your post...but mujhe chain kahan aaye ga beghair likhe...kuch to likh hi doon gi...so pls bear with my repitition😃

Ahhh..Now I am happy..Darr gayithi ke Bush siilent mode main jayegi tho main kya karoonge.. I was getting ready to call Nikhil, Harpreet for courier service ..

Thank You!! 😃

Doods...Kishmish???? How the hell did you pick that up??? I am awed...that was the only thing I did not pay attention to and was irritated on its mention a couple of times...goodness me...👏...what an amazing eye you have...it takes a really creative and intelligent mind to read between the lines and decipher what you can...are you sure you have never worked in this line before??...I mean the creative side of TV😳

Pam...Just read what you have updated so far...amazing...what a great explanation of the clothes part and striping of dignity and honor in there own homes...({khushi-GH and RM} and {Arnav-RM and AR office})...Also I can totally relate to what you said about her getting a jolt...I think she will get one tomorrow as per the pre-cap...or maybe another bigger one will be required..😕...looking forward to read more...😃

All in all I liked the episode and actually am enjoying and accepting them as they are coming...yes I agree on the whole it seems that the plot is static but your posts confirm the fact that character and emotional progression is there...a path is being prepared for the final dhishum to happen...how long is the path only the CVs know...!!

GOK

Originally posted by: starlight123

Are methods to hurt inot revenge..? If Arnav has painted a dark pic of her being held responsible, would she not want to hold that person responsible and cause him pain..

Not the obvious revenge, but breaking his resistance and freeing her is also be revenge..

Originally posted by: sea.nymph

God Bless You Tants for giving us an insight into the life of Khushi - It was nice reading what you wrote from Khushi's angle... it makes a lot of sense... her world has really been brutally torn apart, and if this is her defense against it.. well, the below points speak out my thoughts...

KHUSHI - CHARACTER REVIEW

I've been seriously wondering about Khushi's character. Like I said in my previous few posts, Arnav's character is shown to be gradually changing (and we see that yesterday too). And then there is Khushi.

To me, she hasn't changed, deep down she's still the same natkhat, cute, caring, prankster, fun-loving and thoughtful person that she has always been, though circumstances have added a few edges to her nature. Let's view her under two lens - The Natural Khushi , and the Circumstance Khushi. Natural Khushi is the Khushi we've always known - the Khushi that was presented to us in the first few episodes, Circumstance Khushi is the Khushi that has new additions to her personality due to the circumstances that she has been going through...

THE NATURAL KHUSHI + THE CIRCUMSTANCE KHUSHI

I'll keep going into FB mode for Natural Khushi with a subsequent para of Circumstance Khushi connecting to it...

1. On rewinding my mind to the very first episode, Khushi comes across as a person who always prays to her Devi Maiyya before starting out on any task (big or small) - DM is her one constant support, friend and hope. She believes that DM will always help her, guide her, and bring light into her life. DM was constantly on her lips those days.

Now, after being blackmailed into the holy institution of marriage Khushi's dreams of her Prince who will envelop her in love and warmth, of a marriage with meaning, of the most happiest day of her life is shred to bits in one instant. For Khushi, marriage is a pure relationship, and to be part of a marriage that is soaked in betrayal, pain, hurt, and deceit, shakes the very foundations of her beliefs, values, faith and hopes. It is of no wonder then, that Khushi swears not to talk to DM after this marriage. The deity she worshipped so long, the one constant companion in her life, who she submitted all her fears, insecurities, sadness, happiness, wishes and hopes to didn't seem to be by her side anymore at this time. The fake marriage, the deceit has hurt her so much that she hardly talks to DM now. When she used to talk to DM, Khushi did maneuver her way out of difficult situations, but now, now that she rarely communicates with DM, we see her clutching at any straw to get out of the un-holy mess. (Her recent antics show that Khushi will use her own devices, or uses given hints about Arnav to get her way out of her circumstances).

2. Khushi has always been selfless, her actions always seek to bring happiness into other people's lives while disregarding her own happiness. She has always strived to keep other's happy (she is a bit of a people-pleaser, but she knows where to draw the line).

Yes, she did a mistake in not telling Arnav, Anjali about Shyam's truth, but she didn't only because she couldn't stand to hurt Arnav-Anjali-Payal. Khushi has never deliberately caused pain to everyone (not even Shyam till now!). Her true nature doesn't allow her to do that. She continues to do that even know- Anjali requuested her not to tell Arnav about her 'chakkar', and Khushi adheres to it - disregarding the thought of Arnav's anger upon her.

3. Khushi, is no doubt, a total idealistic person. She has always been lost in day-dreams, she's always full of ideas, plans, and has a bunch of innovative thinking that is stored in her mind. She wishes on a toota-taara, she dreams of stars twinkling, flower petals falling when she meets her Rajkumar, she sees her parents as stars in the sky and gives a whole freedom for her imagination to run anywhere it likes.

She still retains this powerhouse of ideas, innovation, and spirited imagination. It's just that they have been on the back-burner ever since her sudden marriage came about. When your ideals, hopes, wishes, dreams, beliefs and love are shattered with a cruel hand, it's perfectly human to repress your natural qualities in some deep recess where it's difficult for even you to reach out to. Khushi is currently in this stage - Her reserve of ideas pour out and are implemented - while she tries to annoy, and test Arnav's reaction to an overdose of love.

4. Optimistic - We all know how optimistic this girl is. She's been like this right from the start. She has never given up, she keeps pushing forward, she believes that there's a silver lining somewhere and she always endeavours to find it, and use it. A large part of her optimism had to do with conversing with DM. Everytime she would face a difficult situation a short 'Hey Devi Maiyya, hamara raksha karna' has always pulled her out of the stickiest muck she's got into.

But then happens Heart-break. Nothing causes a greater destruction of optimism than a deadly, mirthless, jabbing, crushing heart-break. This girl with a sensitive heart has been severely wounded by the man of her dreams. The man she loves, even though she hasn't exactly acknowledged it yet. There she was, thinking that 'something' is happening between them, she no longer has control over her rapid heart-beats when he comes near, the utterance of his name, sends her floating into space, one look from him, one word from him and she's rendered speechless... and then the next moment he turns into the 'Rakshas' of her first encounters - the Arnav Singh Raizada - ASR, making marriage a 'deal', destroying her image of love, crashing those unvoiced feelings for him, ripping her faith in him.. where will optimism come from after all this?

5. Sensitive Khushi - she may be strong enough to fight mental battles, she may be clever enough to worm her way out of challenges, she may be courageous enough to face up to ASR, she may be witty enough to outwit him, she may be spunky enough to do as she likes - not bothered that she incurs his wrath, but she is sensitive to matters regarding her heart. One small prick to her heart and she breaks down - just imagine the extent of the pain in her heart when she was stabbed with the cold dagger dipped in anger, fury, and distrust!

When that very beating soul is broken apart so badly, by the one who your heart was beating for, it is extremely difficult to retain any semblance of sense or feeling. You may shed a fierce torrent of tears, but you soon realize that it's not going to change anything. The tears are repressed, the feelings are submerged, emotions are clutched in an iron hand, and all those touches of love, those memories - are tightly locked up. Khushi hardly exhibits her emotions these days (except for the B&B episode when she confesses that Arnav is her Shaitan and Rajkumar, and the momentary softness toward him as he sleeps), her enthusiasm and zest has been thawed - Anjali notices it too. As much as Arnav's feelings are being mocked at right now, Khushi's feelings too have been mocked at the day her sister's happiness was in jeopardy.

6. Khushi has always had a child-like attitude in life. Her instant connection with kids, her child-like behaviour, her naughtiness, her unending series of pranks, her outlook toward life in general, always enjoying the day. She has never held grudges for long, forgets her sorrows when she sees someone else unhappy, her constant efforts to cheer up people who are sad, Khushi is just like a child.

But children too grow up some day. I'm not saying that everyone outgrows 'childhood' - no one does. When life strikes you with a vicious blow, and you're lost in that maze, however much you try, and try, and try to get out and fail - there's a time when you decide to take a break. No amount of hitting your head against the maze seems to open up a new way - so you try anything and everything to bide your time - who knows, while doing this, you may find an escape route? Khushi retains her child-like antics, her innocence too hasn't ebbed away (thankfully), but her defenceless heart has been trampled upon so badly that she's lost somewhere in the maze all alone. She's been trying, trying desperately to find a way out - but not much is working her favour this time around. So, what does she do? She tries every trick she knows to escape the harsh events, and out where she'll be free - free to release her pent up emotions, her smothered dreams, her anguish, pain, distress, and let out those unshed tears that are carefully wrapped up within her.

I understand why Khushi is bent upon annoying Arnav: one reason is - to check if he really does out up a barrier when love and affection is showered on him, the second reason: she had pledged that she would make Arnav throw her out before the 6 months of their marriage was over.

I also understand that she's trying to do everything in her might to drive him to the edge of anger and annoyance so that she'll be successful in her mission (Arnav throwing her out of the house).

But what I do not understand is why should her character come across as so juvenile! The barging into the office was a bit too much for me at least! Till then, it was fine, she got him a new flowery wardrobe, called him 'Swami', behaved like a traditional 'patni', that is all still okay. Yes, she wanted to annoy the hell out of him, but seriously, which wife goes into a conference with dabba in hand?

ARNAV - CHARACTER REVIEW

Leaving that aside, I liked they way they've portrayed Arnav throughout yesterday and today. He is reaching his limits of patience with this girl, he's keeping a very good hold over his anger, and again - growth in his character.

The old ASR didn't care two hoots about the people present when he used to blast Khushi. He would demean her, insult her, humiliate her, and hurl his wrath on her without caring where exactly, or who was there around them.

This time, he takes her by the hand (angrily, who wouldn't be), takes her to his cabin, notices that the staff can still see them, and so, takes her to the corner and then admonishes her.

I applaud him for the restraint, the patience (that is reaching its limits rapidly), the mindfulness of other people around, the decency (to talk to her privately) and the barely concealed frustration (it's going to burst anytime if she pushes it too far). Barun was fascinating to watch throughout the episode!!

On an off hand: I felt the episode was probably the way it was becuase of the IPL match between Mumbai Indians and Rajasthan Royals.


SCENE REVIEW

For now, the main impact of the day was of course the 'Teeka Scene'. I was seriously as lost in it as Arnav and Khushi were... now I feel like an intruder into their private space.. sheesh what am I talking!!

Coming back to my senses - the Teeka scene held a particular meaning/s - I really don't want to take away the romantic touch to this scene, par kya kare, jab point hai toh likhna hoga...

THE SCENE IN SHORT:

So, we know that till now, Anjali is the only one who is allowed to put Teeka for ASR (he doesn't allow anyone else), and here we have our mata devi (in her attempt to annoy him) taking over Anjali's duty - Khushi is well aware of the fact that Arnav won't allow her within a mile if she tries using the normal way (her hands/fingers) to put the Teeka. so what does she do? She gives a shot at the unconventional way (copied from the movie Judaai, but still, unconventional, na) - she decides that taking him by surprise is the best way to apply the Teeka and so tilts his head upward and places her forehead on his to transfer the Teeka (reminded me of the spiderman kiss for a moment). Mission accomplished... well, not nearly... both are taken aback by what's happened, the blush (rouge) on Khushi's cheeks and both their expressions transferred a million electrifying, sizzling sparks both ways (and our way too) 😆 ... but to what effect? Arnav rubs away the teeka as he storms out clearly exasperated with this woman.

Now for what I felt about the scene, a lot of questions bombarded me here...

THE SCENE ANALYZED (ATTEMPTED ANALYSIS):

1. When Khushi joined their heads as one, I felt that Khushi will take the initiative to think as one, to join their minds, and their knowledge as one in order to clear away the MU.

2. By transferring her Teeka to his head, it can be that she will pass on some information to Arnav, so that he can use it to clear the MU. Will the information be concerning her feelings? her justification? her side of the story? the truth about Shyam?

3. I am aware that the 'Teeka' holds a sacred/holy meaning, so, will the information be something that will help remove the veil of lies? Tch.. such confusion in my mind!!

4. The scene also reminded me of the show's tagline 'Nafrat paas aane na de, Mohabbat door jaane na de' - with them joining their heads from opposite directions, it seems like these two see as one only when they are facing/seeing things from their own perspectives. They see each other clearly, their feelings reach a height only when they see each other in a different light/when their roles are reversed/when they see the 'other' side of each other... (this is a bit sketchy... need to work upon it).

5. In a weird sense, it brought to mind the zodiac sign of Pisces - the fish that swim in opposite directions, but both in an attempt to reach the same goal.

6. Arnav rubbing away Khushi's given Teeka signified that he still holds Anjali highest in his regard. Khushi (due to the MU) doesn't even figure in his regard. But, what also caught my attention was that he rubbed it only 'after' turning away from Khushi, he didn't do it in front of her... it could be that he accepts the knowledge, the information given to him by Khushi, but disregards it, casts it away once he goes away from her (lack of trust?).

We'll have to wait and watch to see how the MU clears... this new entrant Miss B. didn't create much of an impact - will need to see her in further episodes to see how things pan out (felt that she didn't warm up to Payal much...)

Waiting to see what happens in today's episode, Arnav faints (pretend or really?) - please let it be a good episode!!

Originally posted by: doodleberry

Heyy Honey, good to see you here. Long time we didn't talk. 😃

Whoa I loved your points. But you know since you have asked I'll say some points which is definitely from my understanding of Khushi.

1. As you said, Khushi has taken a matured decision not to tell Arnav abut Shyaam, I disagree here sweety. See Khushi as per my understanding is outright "Emotional" girl and what ever decisions she has taken till date is circumstantial and NEVER Practical or nor even close Matured. Naa. That is the reason she is going to repent. See some decisions in life just needs to be taken in a matured manner. Where as Arnav on the other hand he is an "Opportunist" more than being practical and that also comes because he is extremely emotional, but there is a condition, which is he is extremely emotional when Anji and Khushi is involved otherwise he shows his "Presence of mind". very complex character, isn't it???

He is opportunist and lot more impulsive - Arnav is no doubt a complex character - there are lots of layers - hahah if we get started - he is a perfect PHd material - and thats one character - CVs have kept consistent most of the times...but where he hurts himself is - he is emotional inside - and his that love and emotions - both the women in his lives have yet not realised - yesterday Anjali's pep talk made it more obvious...i said in my post somewhere yesterday - tears of repentance all three of them are going to shed !!!

I agree to wat u said totally Khushi is emotional - she is no way practical - Arnav described her best on Haldi morng "tumhe pata bhi nahi hota tumhaare aas paas kya ho raha hai " - he had read her correctly most of the times - its just the clouded mind sometimes overpowers wat heart sees - and till he sees the truth or realise it - the contrasting character clashed between both of them will go on...But ya like wat I think is gonna happen - unless CVs really dont wanna send the script again down the drain - Arnav should realise the truth without her telling...

Also Khushi's decision was emotional that day - she is no doubt gonna repent too...thats y that car scene after the whole Sethi brother episode got played...the dialogue of truth and lies...its just sometimes how we take decisions under duress at times - Khushi had emotional reasons to hide the truth initially - but u remember later at GH - when just the 4 women of the house were there - she told Buaji and Garima - two marriages are also at stake - how much exposing the truth will impact those two innocent girls - Paayal and Anjali...that day she was practical !!!

2. Now the irritation part, well that has come not because of day 1 or not after marriage. This outburst has NOT yet happen and it will happen very soon if all her questions remains unanswered. This "Irritation" has come from the first heart break, then second heartbreak and then third heartbreak and it's nly pertaining to Arnav and no one else. This is just because "Arnav" is damn SILENT and that is what triggered her recent behavior. A girl, who first managed to calm down and accepted her faith, then again opened up and then again thrased and again and again... Arre every human being has the right to know the reason for this punishment... isn't it??? How will she calm down here bolo??? ANd I won't say she was OTT last 3 days.. naaa not at all. OTT she was in the Suhaani la la la segment and not now. Now, she is damn irritated and only is thinking of getting the answer from the mouth of the only person that matters to her. That's it.

Totally agree to wat u say above - like we say in bengali na "shojjo korar khomotar akta limit hoye " - she had been like a sponge taking it all in...but its very soon now when thats gonna explode...even I have had no problem with Khushi...oh ya the behavioural flaws - which everyone is having a problem with - shutting the laptops, brkfst -lunch...that has been a deliberate point in the script - real lives also we end up hurting or do wrongs - so why does Fictional character should always be moralistically right in their actions - she is childish - and moreover lets say "crude" - for her the importance of such a meeting is not that clear - she is on her own trip now - so kal thokar to lagegi when she sees her action backfire - thats where her learning of her actions will come...when irritation and frustration comes from the relationship which is the closest to our heart...sometimes real-time logics do escape...hasnt she done enough of caring for Arnav even after the marriage turmoils - so y to judge on small faults basis...

3. Now the food part I'll say is that, Khushi is not doing a mistake...first she has to understand that it's a mistake. Is she realizing that??? No. She is not. She is only thinking of her game plan like the way ASR thought of his gameplan to wed Khushi for Anji. Did he think for a moment that he is doing a mistake??? No. he didn't. First ASR has to realize that it's a mistake and then he'll repent. It is the same with Khushi here. She is not in a mindset to understand that what happened in the breakfast table or in the Conf room is a mistake; the moment she'll realize that it's a mistake, she will back off. That is Khushi. What Tant said today???

I guess i clubbed up the food part in the above point only 😆 so totally agree on that...i said ystrday only the Diary is soon again gonna echo "aaj hamne Arnav ji ko phir chot pahuchaayi"...and yes for both Arnav and Khushi the realisations need to strike first - and thats where they have been tactfully steering the script since the Sethi episode...each epi since then has been seeing a build up - some days it more obvious...some days more subtle !!!

Loved Tant's deduction on Khushi...some days Khushi and Arnav reminds you of Lolita and Shekhar of Parineeta - and I am talking of the charcater sketches in the book,not the movie - their journey of misunderstandings and ego clashes after marriage - their Lolita could go away - here Khushi has to stay and face him...

I'll add to that - Arnav and Khushi both fall in the same category -" First act and then think" and NOT "First think and then act". That is why I always say - "Arnav and Khushi are both equals, in every sense".

They both are very complex characters right??? 😆 Like I said - if Khushi is righteous then Arnav is also righteous.

oh ya they are very complex no doubt - thats y its so enthralling analysing their characters - which in most of the other shows - its on ur face characters - u can hear their thoughts and read their actions easily - but here they are masked...thats y some days when the script goes hotch potch,u wanna scream at GH or the Cvs ...dont be over ambitious or lethargic...just stick to both the character sketches u have on ur drawing board - the story will evolve without any confusion !!!

One more thing, I don't think the story is from ASR's POV...naa ASR is Gul's fav character and that is why his monolgues are given more importance. Off late they have started to give Khushi's monologues' some importance.

Maybe u are right or i think you are -I do have sm reservations on that at times...coz of the inconsistency they had during or say after the Holi episodes for few das...Anyways but what I felt during the course of the show - one of the best and most powerful episodes till date - the one just after Diwali kiss - where Khushi takes one step ahead and he walks two steps back - (thats one of the best moments in the story development till date)...so till that episode it was Khushi's story but the moment they had the confrontation in the Temple - the balance tilted towards Arnav...and till the Suhaag Raat nite it has been more of his...after that in between the script had lost its crux - so it was oscillating between Arnav and Khushi...now its finally back to khushi...and thats y such an uproar among viewers - coz they have now seen the "mystery ASR" more than Khushi has understood...so now when they doctoring her character in the script - its not being that obvious...but we nearing the next level rapidly- oh forgot there will be a static point now till IPL...and then it will be more cleared !!!

I liked your points Honey. 😃 Keep'em coming.

lovely to read ur views always

Originally posted by: tanthya