IP REDUX; Equations - Page 5

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

Thought I would wait for tanthya's post and then would reply , couldn't control my urge to respond.so here I am trying to put my view point across and also appreciate the good work done by doods,tanthya's,,Pam,bollywoodcrazed etc.apologies to the unacknowledged and my appreciation extended to them too.

I wholly agree with doods on her analysis and want to add my two cents to the discussions.

"In solving a problem of this sort,the grand thing is able to reason backwards.that is a very useful accomplishment,but people do not Practice it much"-Sherlock Holmes in" A study of scarlet"


This is exactly what is happening to ASR.he is just unwilling to see the picture in totality but continues to treat the terrace incident in isolation.revisiting his times with Khushi really confuses him and he doesn't want Khushi to be given any benefit of doubt.unknowing there is deep seated love and grudging admiration for the same woman who he feels is a home breaker.when this reasoning backwards happens in Arnav's life then the solution to his problem will appear in front of hom in a jiffy him.

The same thing applies to Khushi too.she is so caught with her emotional whirpool that Arnav has unleashed in her life that she is not able to assimilate the picture in totality.with arnav and Khushi going in circles there is an urgent need for some to draw the diagonal which shows them right path outside the mess.so who would the person or the persons responsible for showing them the path is a vital question the cv's are trying answer with all these disjointed episode.what seems disjointed to all of us seemed to me as an attempt to feel the pulse of the audience by feeding them symbolisms before taking a final decision..

Till now I have a silent forum observer . Look forward to writing more on the forum.appreciation for a job done.

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hi Tanths, Doodhs and Pam!😊

Tanths and Pam - I will wait for your analysis. Doodhs - Brillaint analysis as usual. I loved how you have explained the Arnav Khushi equation in the office and on the road. And especially how Aakash was missing from home and Anjali from office. The relation between what happened in the mandir and what happened on the road was not something that i could even think - but I am so glad to have understood it from you. Also the 'credit' thing was well explained and Khushi and her righteousness and how she will be understood slowly and steadily once the truth sees light.

Now coming to my analysis of today's episode :

A good episode - light hearted but with deeper meanings attached to it. I will start with Payal and Mami bond which is growing slowly. And what is interesting to watch is that Payal herself is taking a lot of initiative in this. This is where I guess her characer growth comes into play - as she is emerging out as a strong woman and not the one who takes defeat. And that was shown two times - once when she stood strong in front of Mami and other in front of Arnav when giving him the tea. I love this change in her.

Coming to Arnav and Khushi - We are most certainly focussing on the Arnav Khushi equation. The equation that was lost within the ambit of misunderstandings is now being revived. Earlier we kept seeing it from Arnav and now we are getting it from Khushi - slowly they both will merge and come together - realising their feelings. I do not have much to say about yesterday's episode because it belonged to the Khushi I love and I must say I am sooo glad to have her back. The Khushi who realizes that she has hurt someone and goes back to correct it asap. That was what Khushi did yesterday - she knew unintentionally - she was the one responsible for Arnav's condition and she tried everything she could to bring his voice back and that was adorable to watch.

One thing that i noticed and would like to point out that Khushi brings out color in Arnav's life and his naughtiness back. The new year episode when we saw and Akash and Arnav scene where Akash is telling about the glue episode and Arnav smirks to himself - we were shown that a naught side exists in him which is somewhere lost. Yesterday's episode shows that Khushi brings out the naughtiness in him and he most certainly was troubling her with his 'fake' lost vioice. Khushi is the LIFE in Arnav's living and that is what I felt from yesterday's episode.

The end scene - many people had qualms about it - especially since Arnav said that he did not want to give credit to Khushi. I think he did. When Arnav's voice came back - he thought of Khushi instantly and he was thankful. Yet - when it comes to expresss Arnav Singh Raizada won't - atleast not now - that how grateful he was to her. Khushi was concerned and that was what Arnav liked - and he stretched it further - but they still have not reached the stage where he is goin g to say it loud to her. He made a mistake by blurting out what he did not plan to - and he had to cover it up - and cover it up instantly - and the best way ASR does is it - by being rude. That is his trademark style and something that I have noticed now more often than not.

There will be a time when he will give her all the credit and that will be also when Khushi does not know - there will be a time when he will give her the due importance in life and more than that! She is the guiding light in his life - and he will soon realize that enough to express - and I say enough to express because it is not that he did not want to give her credit now - he did - but he could not and rightly so give it to her. They have still not reached a stage where espression of emotions can be done - and when Arnav reaches that stage - even we will be at loss for words for seeing the expression he will do.

I am really looking forward to the development of the Arnav Khushi equation and I do feel its on the right track - but I personally would want the serial to be a bit fast paced now. Its needed. All tracks and loops are opening up for Khushi to start suspecting the reason behind Arnav's actions and I hope to see it soon.

LOVE :))

P.S : When the police man said "ye koi choti bachi thodi hi hain" to Khushi - I stifled a laugh - Khushi is still a kid at times and only if he knew to what an extent!!! 😆

Originally posted by: ACTywm

Awesome analysis u guys as always!! 😊

Yes indeed a light-hearted entertaining episode, as well as filled with many innuendos that foreshadows how things may play out in the future and what importance each character will have when the time comes. Definitely the PH n CVs have given us a very important week where many important things for the future track is revealed.

@doods

I really liked how you stated that the mandir is khushi's true mayka, n the road Arnav's comfort zone. It is interesting how a very public place is where both of these characters find the most privacy. Quite ironic yet understandable, it is in these places they actually get to be themselves, free n under no obligation. For at home they have to mellow down their characters n stay conscious of every1 around so as not reveal, completely what's going on, for they have to protect their family members especially anjali, and so are restrained at home and therefore it is the road n mandir n car where Arhi get to be their true selves.

Also your analysis on how shyam is 'unjust' and arnav 'just', and that khushi too is 'just' and that is why she will support arnav, and thereby bring abt shyam's downfall was also very apt. I would like to add to this point, a point i made on another post that both khushi n anajli, as has always been said, are very important people in shyam n arnav's lives, but the role the two play in each's life is what will determine who wins. Where anjali is arnav's major weakness, khushi is his strength, be it love or hate that he feels towards her she always gives him strength. Whilst in shyam's life both anjali n khushi r his weaknesses, yes anjali also happens to be his one weapon against arnav but that still doesn't stop her from being his weakness. For shyam's major weakness is greed, greed for money n greed for body (sex/beauty), n khushi n anjali represent these two, where anjali fullfills his need for money, khushi does for lust. And so both these women are his weaknesses while only one of these women are arnav's weakness. Also anjali is greater weakness of shyam's in a sense than arnav's because as much as it may hurt his di, arnav is not afraid to tell her the truth as we saw during the wedding he was prepared to reveal all but only stopped himself bcz of the pregnancy, whereas shyam cannot have anjali find the truth out as he will loose all if the truth comes out, he wnt have lust or money. Whereas arnav will have to deal with a broken anajli but atleast his di will be safe n sound, he wud not have lost her. N so the different dynamics these two women have with these two men also determines why Arnav will end up winning, not just becz khushi will support him as he is right but becz she is his strength too, also when the time comes anjali will hav arnav's back too. For i was reading somewhere either on one ur analysis or on some other forum member's analysis that for anjali the love for shyam is that of a husband a partner, whereas the love for arnav is that of a brother n son, which is a hell of a lot more stronger then that for a spouse. And so when the time will come when she will hav to choose she will choose arnav, for a mother can think of leaving a the husband but never abt leaving her child. Also a taste of this was seen twice during the wedding, first when after the accident she tells arnav just before the the car crashed all she thought about was him n what would happen to her chote if something happened to her, shyam was no where in her mind at that point. Also the first person she saw, n wanted to see was arnav not shyam, n she didn't ask abt shyam alot later n when she did she decided not tell him abt the accident, whereas she would never hav hid it from arnav- the fact that she spent a good deal of time wid arnav after the accident n not shyam shows that out of the two arnav will always be most important. And the second instance that showed Arnav's precedence over shyam was when she reveals the news of her pregnancy to arnav before shyam, ok that may have also been bcz he was there n shyam wasn't, but i personaly believe that she would have told arnav b4 shyam no matter what, as she shares all major n not just major but minor things too that occur in her life with arnav. And so while anjali is arnav's weakness she also has the ability to be his strength, whilst both anjali n khushi will always remain shyam's weakness.

Ok so next I have a quest abt what u said in ur analysis abt anjali not being there today to witness khushi righteous character trait, will that mean when the truth comes out anjali will misunderstand khushi n misjudge her reasons for keeping quiet? As there have been quite a few theories of how when the truth comes out then anjali for a time mite misunderstand khushi n be the cause of arnav n her separation, for arnav will obey anjali no matter what, n so will khushi. As we have seen today that she can not live peacefully knowing she hurt someone n so if her presence in RM hurts anjali then she wud leave to keep her happy, and not jst bcz she never wnts to hurt any1 but also bcz like arnav anjali is important to khushi too, n so she will do whatever anjali requires in order to keep her happy.

Also about the truth staying hidden from Aakash for a while...i understand what u have said that this will cause a slight wedge btwn him n payal, which mama n mami will fix. But where u hav said that arnav will make aakash understand khushi's reasons for keeping quite im a lil confused...cuz i guess i have always thought that it would be aakash who makes arnav understand khushi, like in thurs epi when he said khushi always does something for a reason. And even before, we have always seen aakash siding with khushi, noticing how arnav often mistreats her n then goes helps khushi, like when she was working at the office, aakash always consoled khushi n took her side when she wore the sari, n also when they married, when they walked in every1 was either shocked or said arnav's name, only aakash said khushi's n not in an accusing way but in a genuinely concerned way; also during the moo-dhikai rasam when every1 was saying all sorts of crap abt khushi n arnav came n defended their marriage he was the only one who was happy (well him n nk ' btw wats happening wid nk i thought he was supposed to be back in da serial but hasn't been around...) that arnav came n defended her while the rest were concerned with how arnav's scolding was further damaging the Raizada reputation...so am jst wondering if they hav shown him always understanding khushi n taking her side than why will he misunderstand her? Nd like u said he has already witnessed her righteous attitude in da office n so why will he not understand khushi, i understand his being upset with payal for hiding the truth from him, as he had a right to know from her as it was abt his di, granted he n anjali are not as tightly bound as arnav n anjali but that does not mean that anjali is not important to him. So jst the way arnav has every right to be upset with khushi for keeping the truth from him, so does aakash.

Nyhow loved your whole anaylsis was great!!

@pamk06

I realy liked your whole analysis too, especially where you said that

his silence is going to be an agony for Khushi. She is going to feel each and every emotion of his through his silence, which will be a reflection of his guilt, his pain, his distress, his agony and his anguish. He is going to suffer and she will suffer right along with him.

that was very aptly said, n its kinda cool the way both these characters cannot stand each others silence, it completely winds them up. And also this week has shown that khushi understands his silence a lot better that his words, so like you said she will definitely feel each and every1 of his emotions very acutely and will do everything in order to soothe him n make him talk again. Also his silence will lead her to forgiving him bcz in his silence she will read how much agony he is for having mistrusted her n caused her countless pain, feeling his pain she will know that he truly repents everything and so will forgive. Also the fact that she says in the car that you can thank me n also apologise, suggests that he need no do much to earn her forgiveness all he has to do is ask her to apologise as she is willing to forgive. And so showing that when the truth comes out then too she will be forgiving all he needs to do is ask for her forgiveness n he will be forgiven...im not saying all will be forgotten n she will all 'rabba ve' wid him no, she wnt trust him n that he will have to earn, im saying she will forgive him bcz one she will understand why he did what he did n 2 she will be able to feel his regret thru his silence n thats y will forgive him. And as we hav seen she is not one to hold grudges she easily forgives n moves on n so she will do that.

Oki coming to my analysis:

Firstly what i realy liked abt todays episode well the past week realy, like u all have said is payal's growing confidence, her making a position for herslf i RM. A while back i was watching that old episode again where arnav brings an unconscious khushi home from the farmhouse n in that episode we saw a bold, protective, and fighting payal who not only stood up to arnav n anjali but gave him an earful, n i was like where the hell has this payal disappeared too after the marriage. And now we r finaly seeing that payal emerge which is realy good to see. As now khushi has a support system in RM too, bcz when the truth comes out raizada family intialy may not side with khushi n at that point khushi will realy need payal as well as gupta family.

Also im liking what im seeing btwn payal-arnav there will definitely be a significant relationship there, i think he trusts her and so i think it wil be payal who finaly makes arnav see that khushi is innocent. Because i think khushi's actions will finaly lead arnav to the point where he will be doubting his assumptions of khushi but it will be payal who finaly manages to take down the veil from arnav's eyes n make him see. Just the way her entrance hindered shyam today from getting necessary info while arnav had his back to him, it will be payal who turns him around and makes him see shyam's reality jst the way she made him turn today.

Also the khada, when khushi says its sour/bitter but u have to drink it like that i cant add honey to it. I believe its a metaphor for the truth, the bitter truth that he has to face which as much as she wnts she cannot sugar coat for him. And the fact that he drinks it due to anjali, suggests that anajli will play an important role in helping him uncover the truth, althou she herslf wnt uncover the truth with him, just the way she was not hear today she wnt be there that day either, but it will be due to her that arnav will find out the truth, she would probly prompt him to go somewhere or get something due to which he will stumble upon the truth. Also jst the way the khada helps sure his throat the truth will help cure his unrest, his unease that he has been feeling for the past whatever months. But just the way even after drinking the khada he doesn't speak, althou today it was due to a prank, when the truth is finaly out he wnt be able to rest until all is fixed. Just the khushi has to clean the whole room, him n khushi will hav to clean the mess shyam has made in RM. Only after they manage to get rid of shyam will they be able to breathe. But even then not for long, cuz jst the way after cleaning up the whole room khushi breaks the pot n has to clean again, like doods said once that prob is over they will hav to deal with anjali, her baby n their broken marriage, for up until that point, while they will be teaming up to bring shyam down they wud hav swept their marital problem under the carpet but with shyam out of the pic they will now have to deal with rebuilding their marriage, n arnav esp having to rebuild the trust khushi lost in him.

Originally posted by: anurao.66

I loved all the posts written by @doods, @pam @anna. I am waiting for @thanthiya. You all have done a amazing job. I should say it was an awesome analysis and I just was so impressed with the analysis. I salute to the hard work you put in to make in to make such wonderful posts. You help us to get a clearer picture as to what is happening in the show. I just wait for your posts. Thanks for giving your valuable inputs.

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