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Posted: 13 years ago
#51
awesome analysis!

really lykd how u showed da first scene as a metaphor for Arhi. n it got me thinking everytime ther is a mess i khushi's life arnav is ther n he tries to tell her/help her clean it up get out of it n she refuses each time:

-for example when she finds out abt shyam arnav is da 1st person she encounters n he asks her wat is wrong n tells her to tell him n let him help her fix things, but she doesnt
-than again during sangeet when shyam harrasses her he is ther again, initialy misunderstnds but when realises trie to help her again but she doesnt let him

then aranv's assertion dat u wnt get da BT until u dnt clean, da BT can be taken as a metaphor for arnav, as one dat is his accessory one we associate with him n so what he says is very true, dat khushi can't have him until she clears up the mess ie da MU, n we see how she struggles n tries to get her way but cannot, jst da way khushi knowingly.unknowingly gets close to arnav in da past widout clearing up any of da MUs n den when she cant she knowingly.unkowingly uses da one person dat helps her get arnav widout having to 'clean up': anjali. as it is for anjali's sake arnav marries her...however she still doesn't get arnav n wont until da MU's hav cleared as even married he keeps his distance n so its very poigniant dat arnav states this to her dat u wnt get me until u dnt actualy man up n strt clearing everything insted of jst sweeping da mess under da carpets!!

i also loved that whole bruise scene, it had soo much in it. loved ur analysis on it, i would like to share mine too...

i like da fact that today it was a bruise n not a cut, for it shows wats to cum when finaly da truth is infront of arnav. the thing is now up until now (well b4 his marriage deal) he had only given khushi cuts n da thing abt cuts is dat they heal quickly. i mean whenevr ur cut u will see 1stly it bleeds but soon enuf da platelets in ur system form clots to stop u from bleeding n any infection getting in n den once u hav cleaned it up it leaves a scar, yes but only for a few days n den dat is gone too. but when u bruise, it takes a long time to heal, even after da discolouration stops showing on ur skin da pain is still der n if u touch da spot u can feel da pain. n so its very important to show how all da hurt he caused khushi before da marriage, n even after she can get past it get over it as they r mere cuts, which she can forget, as she will realise da pain he gives her aftr da marriage is due to da MU n so can forgive him dat. but the marriage deal n the reason behind da deal, his lack of trust in her is a bruise n a briuse dat will go away only wid time, arnav cannot clean it up wid disinfectant n dressing of da cuts (ie. his sorrys) da way he has doen before, he will hav to keep clear from da bruise not touch it as well as provide her wid painkillers in order to let it heal, ie, this time he will hav to give her space n time as well as through his actions show his regret inorder to earn redemption.

the way he instantly turns around n ther is regret all over his face when he realises he has hurt her, is only a taste of da pain n agony he will feel once he realises the truth, but then when he try to go near her to say sorry for her she will push him away for he doesnt deserve her sorry. n da way this time he lets her be, he doesn't fight with her to let him see the wound and address it, shows how he will back off then as he will know too dat he doesn't deserve to have her sorry for all the pain he has caused her. but da fact that he stays there n does not leave, bz anjali-shyam comes, shows dat after the truth is infront of these two n neither want to be near each other anjali-shyam will bring them together, n dey will stand by each other due to anjali-shyam, jst da way they did today, for not only after anjali-shyam enter the scene do they we see a khushi supporting arnav, but we see arnav coming closer to khushi, as prior to the their entry arnav was in da room n khushi outside, but when a-s come he cums outside n joins khushi n also stands up to s. showing after the truth is out how they both will stand by each other, supporting each other, due to anjali n how aranv will protect khushi against shyam.

another intersting thing to note in is wat khushi says in this scene, "nai...isi ke layk hai na hum, iss dard k, toh bardaasht karne dijye naa"

the 'bardaasht karne dijye' part i think is her way of pointing out when u dish out da pain den let me hav it too, if u think i deserve it then lemme face it, bcz everytime he hurts her, he turns around n tries to sooth her too. bcz everytime she is in pain he cant help but feel for her n then soften n help her...but she has had enuf n so says stop for this whole rocking backwards n forwards hurts her more, him giving her pain one min n den tending to her pain da next confuses her n hurts her more bcz she can take the pain, but she cnt take his behavioural changes his sudden switch to concern for her as it hurts her. as she is unable to understnd y comes to her aid if he is da one who puts her in da mess in da first place. his soft side give her hope dat maybe he loves her, while his dark side crushes all those hopes n so it hurts her everytime he is soft as it give her heart false hope, his fluctuating makes her heart fluctuate n she cnt take it anymore. n so says u want to hurt me so hurt me i will take it, but dnt turn around n try to sooth me too as dat, dat she cannot take.

plus when she is talking abt how she deserves this pain, i think its not dat he thinks she deserves this pain she is telling herslf dat she deserves this pain for trusting him, for loving him, for thinking dat he wud love her back. its quite intersting how they show it, when he thinks she has broken his trust he lashes out on her n gives her pain as he thinks she deserves to be in pain n not him, but when he breaks her trust she blames herself n lets herslf writh in pain as she believes she deserves the pain for being a fool to trust him. it beautifully shows their characters, how when he is in pain every1 around him suffers with him, but when she is in pain she suffers alone. where she absorbs every1s pain giving them happiness, n letting the pain stay inside her, he gives every1 pain, bcz he is in pain. for arnav wats inside is outside, but for khushi wats outside is not inside. she never lets any1 know wats is goin on inside of her, while he lets every1 know wats inside him, as in not his thoughts n wat he is doing, but wat he is feeling when he is happy (which is a rarity) he infuses happiness into his surroundings, when he is angry/hurt/in pain he gives every1 that. while khushi makes sure every1 in her surrounding is happy, n so takes any unhappiness n buries it deep within her.

another interseting point in this whole scene was how we yet again see aranv's back 2wards khushi when she gets hurt. showing how everytime he turns her back on him he puts her in danger. we saw it during sangeet, during holi n now today. showing how whenever he turns a blind eye on her he puts her in danger, ie. by MU her put her in danger. but also shows eventhough he may not be looking he is always there, within calling distance, n so when the threat is at his highest he will open his eyes n see n protect her. jst da way he did when he rescued her from da farmhouse. dat day too he had turnd his back on her, but as soon as he realised da danger he was there n protected her, n so jst da way he has turnd his back on her now after marrying her n put her into danger, he will be there b4 shyam can trully hurt her, n will protect her. as he did on holi, he was in da wing leaving, but as soon as shyam advanced towards khushi he intervened n protected his khushi, stopping shyam from putting da gulaal on her. also when shyam took khushi during holi, aranv realised she was missing n went looking for her, causing shyam to retreat once again. n soo even with his back turned, eyes closed, he will be there when khushi needs him most, n will protect her.

lol this is just one small scene in an episode filled with soo much to analyse, but nyway u n every1 else here has done dat, this is jst my lil input of my fav scene in da episode. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#52
Tantastic and Doodlelistic...Fantactic !!! Thank God both of you are back together on tack too like IPK ... enjoyed watching it ... and then got spoon fed by both your analysis 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: honeypriya

Poignant,lyrical and perfect analysis like always...👏

And you opened ur post today with the lines,exactly as I wanted so a big hug for that 🤗
It says much for the show that an episode shot with BD , rife with discontinuity, shoddy direction is still hailed as a good episode ... A reflection on how badly things had got out of control..

The only problem I have with both the BDs...esp the lady who stands for Khushi...is fluidity...more than blaming the editors for the same...the director and the actor who stands in needs to take the blame..should know...standing stiff doesnt fill in and complete the scene...atleast relaxing the shoulders and merging with the scenes is essential for the BD...she is standing in for an actress who is extremely perfect with her body language...always reminds me the actress who did the VO for Khushi on Sanaya's till date the most critical and best scene had done a marvellous job...but nowsome study should go in it by the director with the BD when they use her so much !!! (thought atleast they hv got the BD to iron her hair this time thankfully )

Exactly Priya, the BD of SI is quite rigid ..The powers that be have to remember that a back can be expressive too and this ladies back does not speak at all and second when intense scenes are being shot.. the related actors feed off each other's cues and come out with their reaction..there were few instances when I felt Barun would have done better had SI been there giving cues instead of a BD ..
yup there were editing bloopers yesterday...like always...esp when Khushi comes in and blocks his path out of nowhere...even juvenile viewers would hv observed that...but the pace of the epi was gud so yes like always we'll let them slip by !!! (i hv stopped pointing the bloopers anyways...doesnt make sense...like wind chimes did the come back 😆)

I normally ignore bloopers but not when it becomes obvious 😊
storyline stirred and moved no doubt...but now it needs to get shaken - and obviously ASR can go on opening loops and closing them at per his convenience which even Khushi imposed...but moreover Khushi needs to work on understanding the undercurrents - she had two most poignant moments to witness yesterday - Arnav's intrusion in Anjali's life-death piece and Shyaam-ASR tension...we can give in to the fact that Anjali has always stood blind-eyed (though maybe one day Cvs can throw a googly like sm predicted in the Forum,that Anjali had known it all the while )...but Khushi should hv read it more into the confrontation - esp when couple of weeks back she had left home to find the answer for the same...He is the composer of their marriage but its not his composition entirely "main sab thik kar doonga"...the wife needs to also share the symphony...

Lets hope Khushi brain has returned from its stroll of markets and is now attuned to decipher the hints being thrown out by Arnav who has begun to lose his iron control.
the good thing yesterday was that the flawed main characters whom we fell in love ...resurfaced with the same flaws...yes because of the mistrust and unaswered truths...the impact of passion was less...but their vulnerabilities were bubbling yesterday...especially by the door scene...well always love the use of shutters in their intense moments...yesteday's shutter scene was the fall back on the SR nite when he threw her out and closed the door...also on the nite when she closed the door on him and he went back to say lavanya sorry..."aap pehle bigaadte hain...phir thik karte hain...the bridge of "abhimaan" is long but it can be surely be bridged by both of them...if they come out of their insecurities...
Arnav needs to make himself admit "tum kyun deserve nahi karti ho" and she needs to admit "mujhe vishwaas nahi hota ki aap wahi..."
oh I liked the Paayash scene yesterday...have always believed they'll be the confluence point of the Arnav-Khushi shores...if they are wild,these calm waters of Aakash and Paayal will soothe them when time comes !!!


I have been shouting hoarse that PAYASH will be the bridge for Arnav-Khushi since the PAYASH confession.. I would be very delighted when this two calm heads will sooth the ruffled feathers of the hot heads 😆
PS sorry for the long ranting...bt dnt get usually time to comment on ur thread swtz...and this is my most favourite post everyday...remember had told u long back...u the reality check and my literary marvel...🤗 haha I guess am too insecure like ASR on commenting at this thread...kyunki everything is always said before only...😉



Thank You Very Much , Priya

Aww, I never shy away from a hug, Priya 🤗


I am in blue, love
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Posted: 13 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: mouramen

@ tant, doodle, pam 👏👏👏




Thank You, Moura 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: monsi08

Very well written analysis Sathya ... my fav part is this 😊

This scene highlighted the fundamental difference between Arnav and Khushi..Arnav a methodical man, slotting everything in its place, not liking clutter in his life.. each and everything cleanly defined.. mess to be cleared up and then move on be it Lavanya's engagement or getting Khushi to come home, or prevent Payal from leaving the home..Clean the mess and leave !! whilst Khushi is the type who accumulates mess, does not clear up, piles it viz Shyam's ID , His advances , Arnav's indifference bordering on cruelty ..She does not let it bother her and gets on with her own thing



Mon Jaanu,


ee ka , single line main kehdiya..Aaj ASR bangayi kya 😃 ...Thank You !! 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
#56

excellent analysis doods and tants

CVs have taken a 360 degree turn to do the much needed damage control.
it was refreshing to see the story back on track
like you both have mentioned ASR has given many cues to khushi, not its up to her to connect the dots. and i think she will eventually see the connection, and see shyam's interest, she was a bit shocked to see shyam intervening in the pool side conversation, she was really confused!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: tanthya



Mon Jaanu,


ee ka , single line main kehdiya..Aaj ASR bangayi kya 😃 ...Thank You !! 😛



Office aate hi pehla kaam aapki post padhi... aur reply mara...
abhi thoda office ka kaam thikane laga ke aati hoon .. 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
#58
awesome analysis & episode... 😊 momentum is back
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wonderful post sathya and doods !!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kishmish

Tantastic and Doodlelistic...Fantactic !!! Thank God both of you are back together on tack too like IPK ... enjoyed watching it ... and then got spoon fed by both your analysis 😊




Kishy -Mishy ,

whadya mean, we are back on TRACk 😲😲😲 ..hum Ptri se kab uthre ?? Mujhe jawab chahiye, chahiye, chaihye { echo } 😉😆😆

Thank You, Dear.. I too enjoyed watching the story after a long time.. the tack which shud have taken place long back makes its appearance now..

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