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Posted: 13 years ago
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agree :D

kksr does sounds too odd...hope the cvs make it khusi arnav singh raizada besides i luved ysterday's episode ...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree with all your points . Superb analysis
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree with you great post and analyze of epi.👏 thanx for pm dear
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Posted: 13 years ago
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completely agree!!! although i was happy when her family accepted her, but with all the taunts that lasted for 3 weeks straight, they could actually give importance in accepting her in this episode. rather they were fixed about putting holi colors on each other. i needed an emotion closure to understand the family and their views, this was just like their marriage day, two second of talk and there were consequences! and i doubt arnav will change this quickly, he's still confused on where to stand in khushi's life, and two days of smiles will definitely not cover up for 3 weeks of "save the sister" tag!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Why did Khushi have to pay for the holi arrangements? Didn't Anjali arrange it? And why can't Khushi let Payal get the money from Akash? Why is she so insistent on doing everything herself and solving every problem? Subconscious desire to constantly seek approval and love that she feels she wouldn't get otherwise? (Which is actually true in her family's case)
I agree on this point Naika! I dont know why Payal's husband cant pay for the Holi stuff! Why does Khushi have to take it on herself? I bet the little taunt by "Mami" before she took off was the main reason!
Khushi always feels like it's her job to "FIX" everything!In this sense, she is just like Arnav, who thinks he needs to "Control" everything and fix every issue! They are very similar in this point that, despite being the "Younger" sibling they feel it's their responsibility to fix and take care of the older siblings issues!
I also think the Gupta's relenting was a bit fast, but they did show Khushi going over there several times last week and she even spent 1 whole morning at her house before going to confront ASR at his office! So I guess they used "Holi" to reconcile her with her folks! I am just happy all that is done with so they will concenrtate on Snake and ARHI in the coming weeks!
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Its good you have done this after a long time i as so eager to know your view about the track all this while thought i got an idea from your OS's ...

Good Points


-I'm so glad Khushi's stopped wearing those awful sarees. I hated them, they really aged her and her anarkali and normal chamkili suits are much better.

Totally agreed...those sarees i guess are borrowed from Anjali...dunno but they were bad...i prefer the ones she wore on the day she toured Delhi from Gupta house to cafe to RM... 😛

-Khushi's never-say-die attitude is super cute and I'm glad it's still intact.

Agreed...and Payal's the whole world's burden is on me kind of attitude...irritates me to no end ...why the hell can't she pacify her mom and Buaji and say she is happy she has Khushi with her else she will feel all lost and Khushi helps her lot!!!! But gosh but i think i am expecting too much

-When Khushi opens her eyes and notices Arnav standing between her and Shyam she instinctively moves so she's behind him even more. Protected by him from Shyam. She did a similar thing in the second episode when the neighbours came to taunt her about breaking Payal's marriage, Babuji stood up for her and Khushi moved and stood half behind him, allowing him to protect her. Obviously Babuji's tried to protect her from Shyam first but he'd kind of indisposed at the moment so now that job's fallen to Arnav. The father usually hands 'responsibility' for the daughter to the husband on the wedding day so I thought this scene was interesting.

I loved this scene at last Arnav has decided that he will stand between Shyam and Khushi...that was his reason of marrying her...right???? Hope he also realizes that he will not available at all times to protect her (or come in between Shyam and Khushi every time) and does something about Shyam soon

-Arnav says 'after all I'm her husband', accepting her role in his life compared to all his previous assertions of 'she's my wife' where he's imposed himself on Khushi's life.

That is good observation...how i wish when Khushi moved behind him she had clutched his arms or something...so that he at least has doubt on her participatin in the alleged Shyam-Khushi relationship!!!

-Arnav's hand was shaking when he put the colour on Khushi, especially the second cheek. Showing his hesitation at touching her.

Yup and i felt it was superb and natural acting of Barun here that has made its mark...I also loved when she put the color back on his face...it was a scene worth watching...he seemed to have hesitation in letting her touch him as well ...

-Khushi's so cute!

Yup...she always is...

-Khushi closes her eyes resigning herself to her fate of Shyam touching her as family who know the entire truth do nothing but stand by shocked waiting for Shyam to put colour on her. Arnav who thinks that Khushi would probably welcome Shyam's touch is the only one that eventually protects her. The useless Guptas strike again.

Even i was shocked ...least they could have done is tole Naniji you are eldest why don't you put color first...and I am shocked the whole family doesn't mind the fact Shyam who should first put color on his wife...today is all intent on "welcoming" Khushi...and if its so important to welcome Khushi can't they say put on Payal first...at least that would have made the Gupta jump into action!!!

Bad Points


-So far every rasam that should have been done at the Guptas has ended up being done at the Raizadas, we don't care anymore so why do they always insist on adding these stupid excuses for why they are.

Yup that was totally unnecessary and as far as i see in every other serials also the married women celebrate holi in their in laws only so i don't get point her...just giving naother chance to mami to taunt them!!!

-Why is Arnav all teary-eyed at Nani accepting Khushi? Doesn't he want to make Khushi's life hell for the next 6 months? I just don't understand his sudden turnaround to puppy dog looks again.

I don't think he was teary eyed...but then Arnav has always enjoyed these little reunion as an outsider!!!! Remeber the scene where Shyam first comes to RM for TEEJ and makes Jalebi's for the family...Aaksh, Anjali mama and maami all are enjoying and he observes and smiles

Similarly the Oh la la segment again here he smiles over the bonding the ladies of the house have!!!! along with Khushi!!! He always does that...

-I want to know exactly what Shyam's thinking, does he realise Khushi and Arnav don't have a proper marriage? Does he think Khushi knows that Arnav knows about them? What? What? Before he used to get so many monologues repeating the same stuff but now we never get to see anything except his nose twitching.

He seriously seemed to have lost the plot...didn't Khushi tell him she won't marry him or love him even if he left Anjali...and didn't she say she values her marriage even if he doesn't...then why this stupid idea of making her drink bhaang imagining that she will confess what she has in her heart her love for him...Is he still hoping that Khushi loved him...when its impossible even for his wife to love him after knowing the truth...one possibility is he seriously a psycho...totally obsessed and Schizophrenic losing the touch of reality here!!!

-Anjali's character is so confused and some of her dialogues and actions are so conflicting. I think they're trying to make us suspicious of her but it just looks disconnected. She seems like two different characters most of the time.

I always felt she was bipolar...she again is one who believed only in putting off the unpleasant things acting all chirpy and cozy !!!

-I'm glad Khushi's family forgave her and all but it looked really forced and tacked on because of how short it was. After all that 'we'll never forgive you ever again', I can understand her family softening after a while, but so suddenly and anti-climactic it just seemed random to me personally.

I think they did more to appease Anjali ...they never esp Bauji and Garima seemed to have taken any effort in acting family to Khushi...so their softening is something i never expected...they are doing this only to make Anajli happy and so that they tomorrow order her around as servant or assistant of Payal whenever needed!!!

-Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada ' stupidest name ever.

I think CVs wanted to use a totally different combination from nay version used in our FFs or SSs...and it totally lame!!!

-I don't know much about mangalsutras but why does Khushi's always change lengths? Short when she wears dresses and long when she wears sarees.

LOL...good point of observation but then it seems to be happening in almost all serial...as far as i can see only EHMMBH had Jeevik constantly having the same length of mangalsutra!!!

-So they definitely got married on Valentine's Day and it's now Holi but Khushi's still sleeping on the floor? Argh!

Don't even get me started on that...it irritates me and i don't understand Cvs purpose here!!!

-Why did Khushi have to pay for the holi arrangements? Didn't Anjali arrange it? And why can't Khushi let Payal get the money from Akash? Why is she so insistent on doing everything herself and solving every problem? Subconscious desire to constantly seek approval and love that she feels she wouldn't get otherwise? (Which is actually true in her family's case)

I don't understand this either...Why why why!!! and Shyam and Anjali always seem to be having more than enough money...why can't they give something at least to Payal if not to Khushi!!!!
Edited by uniquebluerose - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yea baby! i have a thg abt those bad points too..wdnt repeat them, but just so u know- completely agree wv u

am i also allowed to say khushi keeping the turban on when arnav was applying the holi was a mood killer 4 me?? 🤢 well it was..haha! i kept thinking of arnav's nanaji☺️...arrrg 🤣
it'd hv been way better wv her hair down..worth a rewatch then..thk goodness she got rid of the tache at least !🤢

the under-the-tree in a churidar bit was great❤️..n arnav watching her then..now that's good!😍

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Posted: 13 years ago
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ok. just because you were so good and gave me so many updates to read, i have comment lots... now read them!
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Originally posted by: nayika

Not back to doing these every day but maybe every once in a while if I have time/the episode's interesting


Good Points


-I'm so glad Khushi's stopped wearing those awful sarees. I hated them, they really aged her and her anarkali and normal chamkili suits are much better. I find it revolutionary. SP bahu wearing an Indian suit after marriage... Sacre Bleu! the world as we know it will come to an end. Perhaps it is to signify its not a real marriage and the min they consummate it, she will be back to wearing 9 yards to convey her goodness

-Khushi's never-say-die attitude is super cute and I'm glad it's still intact. --- Me too. its irritating but also lovable.

-When Khushi opens her eyes and notices Arnav standing between her and Shyam she instinctively moves so she's behind him even more. Protected by him from Shyam. She did a similar thing in the second episode when the neighbours came to taunt her about breaking Payal's marriage, Babuji stood up for her and Khushi moved and stood half behind him, allowing him to protect her. Obviously Babuji's tried to protect her from Shyam first but he'd kind of indisposed at the moment so now that job's fallen to Arnav. The father usually hands 'responsibility' for the daughter to the husband on the wedding day so I thought this scene was interesting. - yeah, this was really neatly done. pity the deaf and dumb ASR does not notice it.

-Arnav says 'after all I'm her husband', accepting her role in his life compared to all his previous assertions of 'she's my wife' where he's imposed himself on Khushi's life.

-Arnav's hand was shaking when he put the colour on Khushi, especially the second cheek. Showing his hesitation at touching her. --Barun Sobti strikes gold again

-The way they looked at each other throughout the episode was just amazing. (Slightly out of character for Arnav given his behaviour in the past month) but still amazing to watch because they both have such amazing eyes. - yeah. sometimes I wonder what this serial woudl have been if these two had not been leads.

-Khushi's so cute! - Sanaya is amazing... the gamut of emotions she showed, the range, mind blowing

-Khushi closes her eyes resigning herself to her fate of Shyam touching her as family who know the entire truth do nothing but stand by shocked waiting for Shyam to put colour on her. Arnav who thinks that Khushi would probably welcome Shyam's touch is the only one that eventually protects her. The useless Guptas strike again. - on an uncharitable note, I sometimes wonder what would Khushi do if Shyam said she needs to sleep with him for her family's sake. Would she smile and do it... her self sacrifice can really begin to get to me... ok, yes, I am irritated with many things about the serial at this point and I guess its showing. and yes, useless Guptas is right. I think it will be height of infamy and disgust for me to see the Gupta family forgiven and forgotten which they inevitably will be.

Bad Points

-So far every rasam that should have been done at the Guptas has ended up being done at the Raizadas, we don't care anymore so why do they always insist on adding these stupid excuses for why they are. that's because its a social science lesson on Indian rasams and they don't want ignorant viewers like me to learn the wrong thing.

-Why is Arnav all teary-eyed at Nani accepting Khushi? Doesn't he want to make Khushi's life hell for the next 6 months? I just don't understand his sudden turnaround to puppy dog looks again. - i think its because Arnav's basic love shines through despite his hate.. so to me that was pretty logical.

-Arnav wants to pretend him and Khushi are in love so why does he first walk away when Khushi is told to put colour on him. That doesn't exactly display the love that he's trying to portray to his family.-- well my guess here is, he wants the family to think that they are in love not that he is not in control :) ha, more fool he...

-I want to know exactly what Shyam's thinking, does he realise Khushi and Arnav don't have a proper marriage? Does he think Khushi knows that Arnav knows about them? What? What? Before he used to get so many monologues repeating the same stuff but now we never get to see anything except his nose twitching.- nice nose though

-Anjali's character is so confused and some of her dialogues and actions are so conflicting. I think they're trying to make us suspicious of her but it just looks disconnected. She seems like two different characters most of the time.

-I'm glad Khushi's family forgave her and all but it looked really forced and tacked on because of how short it was. After all that 'we'll never forgive you ever again', I can understand her family softening after a while, but so suddenly and anti-climactic it just seemed random to me personally. I personally thought that was realistic. haven't you noticed real life being like that? Only in books do people have the courage of their convictions and stick to their guns or if yhave some amazing people in your life.

-Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada ' stupidest name ever. - better than Khushi Kumari Gupta Arnav Singh Raizada, what's with this tacking on your entire identity to your husband's? ok lets not go through. half the forum wasis will kill me.

-I don't know much about mangalsutras but why does Khushi's always change lengths? Short when she wears dresses and long when she wears sarees. - it's under the lengthiastis spell from Hermione.

-So they definitely got married on Valentine's Day and it's now Holi but Khushi's still sleeping on the floor? Argh! - I love the way he sleeps all cosy and comfy in his bed.

-Why did Khushi have to pay for the holi arrangements? Didn't Anjali arrange it? And why can't Khushi let Payal get the money from Akash? Why is she so insistent on doing everything herself and solving every problem? Subconscious desire to constantly seek approval and love that she feels she wouldn't get otherwise? (Which is actually true in her family's case) - she needs a shrink, big time. despite that I love her. I only hope he loves her enough to heal the damaged parts of her and we get to see it.

Edited by Rita.C - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nayika

Not back to doing these every day but maybe every once in a while if I have time/the episode's interesting


Good Points


-I'm so glad Khushi's stopped wearing those awful sarees. I hated them, they really aged her and her anarkali and normal chamkili suits are much better.

-Khushi's never-say-die attitude is super cute and I'm glad it's still intact.

-When Khushi opens her eyes and notices Arnav standing between her and Shyam she instinctively moves so she's behind him even more. Protected by him from Shyam. She did a similar thing in the second episode when the neighbours came to taunt her about breaking Payal's marriage, Babuji stood up for her and Khushi moved and stood half behind him, allowing him to protect her. Obviously Babuji's tried to protect her from Shyam first but he'd kind of indisposed at the moment so now that job's fallen to Arnav. The father usually hands 'responsibility' for the daughter to the husband on the wedding day so I thought this scene was interesting.

-Arnav says 'after all I'm her husband', accepting her role in his life compared to all his previous assertions of 'she's my wife' where he's imposed himself on Khushi's life.

-Arnav's hand was shaking when he put the colour on Khushi, especially the second cheek. Showing his hesitation at touching her.

-The way they looked at each other throughout the episode was just amazing. (Slightly out of character for Arnav given his behaviour in the past month) but still amazing to watch because they both have such amazing eyes.

-Khushi's so cute!

-Khushi closes her eyes resigning herself to her fate of Shyam touching her as family who know the entire truth do nothing but stand by shocked waiting for Shyam to put colour on her. Arnav who thinks that Khushi would probably welcome Shyam's touch is the only one that eventually protects her. The useless Guptas strike again.

Bad Points


-So far every rasam that should have been done at the Guptas has ended up being done at the Raizadas, we don't care anymore so why do they always insist on adding these stupid excuses for why they are.

-Why is Arnav all teary-eyed at Nani accepting Khushi? Doesn't he want to make Khushi's life hell for the next 6 months? I just don't understand his sudden turnaround to puppy dog looks again.

-Arnav wants to pretend him and Khushi are in love so why does he first walk away when Khushi is told to put colour on him. That doesn't exactly display the love that he's trying to portray to his family.

-I want to know exactly what Shyam's thinking, does he realise Khushi and Arnav don't have a proper marriage? Does he think Khushi knows that Arnav knows about them? What? What? Before he used to get so many monologues repeating the same stuff but now we never get to see anything except his nose twitching.

-Anjali's character is so confused and some of her dialogues and actions are so conflicting. I think they're trying to make us suspicious of her but it just looks disconnected. She seems like two different characters most of the time.

-I'm glad Khushi's family forgave her and all but it looked really forced and tacked on because of how short it was. After all that 'we'll never forgive you ever again', I can understand her family softening after a while, but so suddenly and anti-climactic it just seemed random to me personally.

-Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada ' stupidest name ever.

-I don't know much about mangalsutras but why does Khushi's always change lengths? Short when she wears dresses and long when she wears sarees.

-So they definitely got married on Valentine's Day and it's now Holi but Khushi's still sleeping on the floor? Argh!

-Why did Khushi have to pay for the holi arrangements? Didn't Anjali arrange it? And why can't Khushi let Payal get the money from Akash? Why is she so insistent on doing everything herself and solving every problem? Subconscious desire to constantly seek approval and love that she feels she wouldn't get otherwise? (Which is actually true in her family's case)



i am sorry but i dont agree with many of ur points. i absolutely hated those pom pom chamkeli salwars & i prefer her in sarees.

reg arnav being teary eyed he is quite senti & a family guy though he pretends otherwise. he has realized that kushi brings genuine happiness & cheer into his house & puts a warm smile on their faces. He especially loves to see Anjali & Nani smile & Kushi is the only one who does that consistently.

reg arnav walking away he is scared of the feelings kushi always manages to evoke in him. many times he starts off his play acting but ends up displaying his care & love like the kheer feeding scene. he is always been annoyingly consistent with this. wenever she makes him feel vulnerable he flees the battle ground. coz he knows he cant hide his feelings all the time. yest he couldnt & hence he fled.

reg reconciliation with the family it may b contrived but i ll the cvs some slack since its common for families to bury the hatchet during festivals or any happy occasion like weddings so it might not appear too forced. remember her family was already turning around. the last time she went home they dint actually kick her out.

rest of the points i agree. u r right!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I am not being able to understand Arnav, shyam these days. what they are thinking is totally a puzzle for audience. dont CVs think its necessary to show us what is their perspective abt khushi and the marriage is?
did arnav witness the entire scene where khushi refused shyam's attempt to apply color or did he hear only the last part? and also yesterday when she said she doesnt want to play holi did arnav hear it?
i think there are so many loops cvs are keeping unclosed. like arnav knows truth or not, shyam thinks khushi knows the truth or not, anji she is a big question mark, and khushi most of all wasnt she hell bent on knowing the reason for marriage now all of a sudden what happened?
story seems disoriented since the payash divorce track. guess may be spa was the reason. but am just hoping they would make few things clear.

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